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Diablo 4 Won't Have Real-Money Auction House, But WILL Have MTX - MMORPG.com

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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    Bunch of ..lads jumping on the hate train lol.

    Diablo 3, hello? We got big free updates and we still get, for FREE. They should of enable MTX on D3 if you're asking me a long time ago. Of course, just cosmetics. 

    So before jumping on the hate train, just .. have a bit of common sense. You will not see any form of "boosts" in D4 that's for sure and I see no problem if they sell weapon/armor skins, mount skins, etc. If they keep the same agenda as with D3, damn, let them sell whatever cosmetics they want as long as free updates are plenty with big paid x-pacs like RoS.

    I mean, if you see WoW mounts/pets shop as something which stops you for playing the game, then yea, ignore D4 and move on.

    PS: Whats with the CAPS on the WILL and MTX ? WoW, HoTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch ..Starcraft 2 have it : https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/starcraft-ii . So what's the ..problem here?!






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  • G3NexisG3Nexis Member UncommonPosts: 85
    Sometimes it seems like most of you forget that it actually costs money to develop these games. Then when its a multiplayer game there are extra costs in maintaining the game, servers, patches, updates, new content, etc...etc...

    A flat $60 price tag may have been able to fund all of that when Diablo 2 came out but it is very unlikely a studio can pay for all of that today with a 1 time purchase and no other source of income.

    Cosmetic items have zero effect on anything. You can still play the game just the same as the guy that spends $5000 on every dildo costume they offer. Stop crying so damn much about literally everything.
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    We're fighting a losing battle.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    edited November 2019
    kitarad said:
    We're fighting a losing battle.
    Luckily there so many good single players game to play that my list is far too long which makes it so I don't have to play any forced online game if I do not want to.

    Frankly I am enjoying single players far far more than any online games lately. 


    Take Elite Dangerous for example...we could have gotten a really good offline version with a really good story and great flight mechanics..instead we got a game with non existent story and boring repetitive grind with the only thing good about the game being the flying itself..turned into a big disappointment.


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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    Asm0deus said:

    Take Elite Dangerous for example...we could have gotten a really good offline version with a really good story and great flight mechanics..instead we got a game with non existent story and boring repetitive grind with the only thing good about the game being the flying itself..turned into a big disappointment.


    Please speak for yourself. There are many "We" , which some I personally know, and are enjoying the heck out of Elite Dangerous.

    Its fine if you don't like a game, but .. there are many "We", which likes it.

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  • CryomatrixCryomatrix Member EpicPosts: 3,223
    edited November 2019
    in agreeing with G3Nexis, 

    You guys forget 3 very important points:

    1) We live in a capitalistic society 
    2) Entertainment is a luxury
    3) A bunch of smart business people with years of experience and advanced education with tons of predictive modeling information and such are making a decision on how to fund a product using tons of retrospective data. Also, circle back to point number 1. 

    3 points in a different way:
    The point of American society is to make money (capitalism). . . so why act surprised. 
    Entertainment is a luxury so really . . .  it isn't that important.
    A lot more accomplished people are trying to . . .  achieve point 1. 


    My point is. It is what it is, entertainment isn't important, you keyboard warriors likely have no idea what you're talking about and you live in this society, how come you're not used to it by now. 

    As i've stated before, the real bullshit happens when you get unsavory practices in things like health care insurance and other things that are necessities and not silly entertainment. 


    Food for thought:
    Activision-Blizzard Revenue = 7.5 billion
    Activision-Blizzard Profit = 1.4 billion


    Holy hell = 6.1 billion in costs . . . . . 

    So for every dollar Activision-blizzard spends, they get $1.23 back. So you know, maybe they need MTX. You think the guys who invested in their education by going to top undergraduate schools and business schools will be stupid enough to be like, i'm a gaming purist, only B2P, no MTX ever, that's bad, can i keep my job now . . . . 
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  • NightfyreNightfyre Member UncommonPosts: 205
    And here I thought MTX was a cryptocurrency they were using.  bummer, i wanted to trade my items in for crypto!  :D
  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,558
    edited November 2019
    IceAge said:
    Bunch of ..lads jumping on the hate train lol.

    Diablo 3, hello? We got big free updates and we still get, for FREE. They should of enable MTX on D3 if you're asking me a long time ago. Of course, just cosmetics. 

    So before jumping on the hate train, just .. have a bit of common sense. You will not see any form of "boosts" in D4 that's for sure and I see no problem if they sell weapon/armor skins, mount skins, etc. If they keep the same agenda as with D3, damn, let them sell whatever cosmetics they want as long as free updates are plenty with big paid x-pacs like RoS.

    I mean, if you see WoW mounts/pets shop as something which stops you for playing the game, then yea, ignore D4 and move on.

    PS: Whats with the CAPS on the WILL and MTX ? WoW, HoTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch ..Starcraft 2 have it : https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/starcraft-ii . So what's the ..problem here?!








    Wow, you really like to White Knight hard for Blizzard.  Is that cool thing Edge Lords do these days?


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    in agreeing with G3Nexis, 

    You guys forget 3 very important points:

    1) We live in a capitalistic society 
    2) Entertainment is a luxury
    3) A bunch of smart business people with years of experience and advanced education with tons of predictive modeling information and such are making a decision on how to fund a product using tons of retrospective data. Also, circle back to point number 1. 

    3 points in a different way:
    The point of American society is to make money (capitalism). . . so why act surprised. 
    Entertainment is a luxury so really . . .  it isn't that important.
    A lot more accomplished people are trying to . . .  achieve point 1. 


    My point is. It is what it is, entertainment isn't important, you keyboard warriors likely have no idea what you're talking about and you live in this society, how come you're not used to it by now. 

    As i've stated before, the real bullshit happens when you get unsavory practices in things like health care insurance and other things that are necessities and not silly entertainment. 


    Food for thought:
    Activision-Blizzard Revenue = 7.5 billion
    Activision-Blizzard Profit = 1.4 billion


    Holy hell = 6.1 billion in costs . . . . . 

    So for every dollar Activision-blizzard spends, they get $1.23 back. So you know, maybe they need MTX. You think the guys who invested in their education by going to top undergraduate schools and business schools will be stupid enough to be like, i'm a gaming purist, only B2P, no MTX ever, that's bad, can i keep my job now . . . . 
    It's a great take on it and I essentially agree. I don't agree that entertainment isn't that important. But there are many ways of being entertained. If video games aren't doing it for someone then they can do something else. 

    The way I always look at it is that these companies belong to others. They put out a product and i can say yes or no to that product. which I always do.

    If something isn't doing it for me I won't have anything more to do with it. Did that with Elder Scrolls Online, and have done that for a lot of games. Did that with Dragon Age inquisition. I'll do it again for any number of things.

    But, if a game seems good and I sense I'll enjoy it then I'll give it a whirl. if I don't want to spend "extra" money I certainly won't. I also won't complain ad nauseum as I have power over my purchases and can choose any number of ways to spend my extra time.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    Ginaz said:
    IceAge said:
    Bunch of ..lads jumping on the hate train lol.

    Diablo 3, hello? We got big free updates and we still get, for FREE. They should of enable MTX on D3 if you're asking me a long time ago. Of course, just cosmetics. 

    So before jumping on the hate train, just .. have a bit of common sense. You will not see any form of "boosts" in D4 that's for sure and I see no problem if they sell weapon/armor skins, mount skins, etc. If they keep the same agenda as with D3, damn, let them sell whatever cosmetics they want as long as free updates are plenty with big paid x-pacs like RoS.

    I mean, if you see WoW mounts/pets shop as something which stops you for playing the game, then yea, ignore D4 and move on.

    PS: Whats with the CAPS on the WILL and MTX ? WoW, HoTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch ..Starcraft 2 have it : https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/starcraft-ii . So what's the ..problem here?!








    Wow, you really like to White Knight hard for Blizzard.  Is that cool thing Edge Lords do these days?


    So, if I don't jump on the Blizzard hate train, I'm a White Knight? Well, sorry for not joining the "Hate Guild" extravagantza. Call me White Knight, I'm good. A lot better then to have a "crystal ball" to say the dark future of D4. 


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  • LolusLolus Member UncommonPosts: 29
    The moment they said it has mounts I knew it would have MTX.
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  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 825

    Arterius said:


    DMKano said:


    Arterius said:

    I am ok with cosmetic MTX only. Look, MTX are not going anywhere and 3-4 years from now MTX's might be more in your face then they are today. If they stick with this model until release I would be more then happy



    The real issue is cosmetic mtx in F2P games is understandable 

    But cosmetic MTX in B2P games with B2P expansions.... 

    As pointed above- you are already paying $40-$60 for the game and the same for expansions...

    Shouldn't those cosmetics be rewarded in game during gameplay?


    Not anymore. It sucks but its the times we live in. Again Blizzard said this game is years away. So even if this game comes out 2 years away I can only imagine what greedy business practices businesses will have thought up by then



    I have to agree with Arterius here. Mtx is no longer F2P only, its spread across all games, season pass anyone? It is the time we live in and is not going away, you can choose not to support it with your wallet. As long as I get a game that stars at A and ends at Z im good. I know personally i wont spend money on the shop to get a new skin or mount. I also know like Torval said if they lock chapters in mtx i just flat out wont buy it at all.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    So only difference is that unlike PoE they charge you for the game. So I guess you are paying for the IP.
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  • GutlardGutlard Member RarePosts: 1,019
    edited November 2019
    As much as most of us gripe about MTX's, I wonder what % still go ahead and do it, because if they keep adding them in games regardless of the outcry, they know we're full of shit...

    Gut Out!

    What, me worry?

  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,558
    IceAge said:
    Ginaz said:
    IceAge said:
    Bunch of ..lads jumping on the hate train lol.

    Diablo 3, hello? We got big free updates and we still get, for FREE. They should of enable MTX on D3 if you're asking me a long time ago. Of course, just cosmetics. 

    So before jumping on the hate train, just .. have a bit of common sense. You will not see any form of "boosts" in D4 that's for sure and I see no problem if they sell weapon/armor skins, mount skins, etc. If they keep the same agenda as with D3, damn, let them sell whatever cosmetics they want as long as free updates are plenty with big paid x-pacs like RoS.

    I mean, if you see WoW mounts/pets shop as something which stops you for playing the game, then yea, ignore D4 and move on.

    PS: Whats with the CAPS on the WILL and MTX ? WoW, HoTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch ..Starcraft 2 have it : https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/starcraft-ii . So what's the ..problem here?!








    Wow, you really like to White Knight hard for Blizzard.  Is that cool thing Edge Lords do these days?


    So, if I don't jump on the Blizzard hate train, I'm a White Knight? Well, sorry for not joining the "Hate Guild" extravagantza. Call me White Knight, I'm good. A lot better then to have a "crystal ball" to say the dark future of D4. 


    The only reason I mention it is because you seem to take any criticism of Blizzard REALLY personally.  Why is your source self identity and worth so tied to the fortunes of a corporation that cares nothing for you?
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    skeaser said:
    As long as it's implemented well, I don't see an issue with this. Games are getting more complex and cost more to develop, but players won't pay more for games than they have been. Add in seasons and a constant stream of new content, plus server costs and infrastructure and the money has to come from somewhere. I would be willing to pay more for the box up-front but I'm in the minority, so MTX is the way to go.
    complex? lol
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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited November 2019
    DMKano said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Arterius said:
    DMKano said:
    Arterius said:
    I am ok with cosmetic MTX only. Look, MTX are not going anywhere and 3-4 years from now MTX's might be more in your face then they are today. If they stick with this model until release I would be more then happy

    The real issue is cosmetic mtx in F2P games is understandable 

    But cosmetic MTX in B2P games with B2P expansions.... 

    As pointed above- you are already paying $40-$60 for the game and the same for expansions...

    Shouldn't those cosmetics be rewarded in game during gameplay?
    Not anymore. It sucks but its the times we live in. Again Blizzard said this game is years away. So even if this game comes out 2 years away I can only imagine what greedy business practices businesses will have thought up by then
    An optional subscription as well - i.e. sign up for a regular purchase of MTX tokens with a sugar coating - for one.

    Ugh please no.

    Thars what BDO does - B2P, with subscription, with heavy cash shop and with RNG loot from cash shop deals too... (pet boxes come to mind with RNG tiers)

    Just no.
    Was BDO the first to do this? ESO has for a while of course. A-B tried an optional sub with CoD and it "didn't take off" a while back. Sure there have / are others as well,

    What I don't understand is why people who "complain" about MTX are OK with an optional sub which is little more than paying for tokens every month.



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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    DMKano said:


    While true - it doesnt make it ok, not should it warrant everyone just accepting the status quo and just bending over to the current system

    Players have the freedom to buy or not buy, just as people have the freedom to change the system and change the government 

    And not everyone is happy with current brand of capitalism based on infinite spending and infinite revenue growth.

    The system in current form is not sustainable.


    Yeah but they are still buying. Which sort of means that the majority don't care or are very selective and are still buying "certain games."

    Forums are really a tempest in a teapot when it comes to some of these issues. Especially as players age. They want things the way they were. 

    I think someone here posted that they had a son who wouldn't buy a game because it didn't have a cash shop.

    And, while I'm not happy with the current brand of capitalism, I do believe that companies/individuals can charge what they want. If they get takers then It is what it is.

    I don't think certain services should be tied into capitalism (health care) but video games? Sure! If companies what to charge thousands for one game then I'm ok with it. I just won't buy (obviously they won't)
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  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    DMKano said:
    gervaise1 said:
    Arterius said:
    DMKano said:
    Arterius said:
    I am ok with cosmetic MTX only. Look, MTX are not going anywhere and 3-4 years from now MTX's might be more in your face then they are today. If they stick with this model until release I would be more then happy

    The real issue is cosmetic mtx in F2P games is understandable 

    But cosmetic MTX in B2P games with B2P expansions.... 

    As pointed above- you are already paying $40-$60 for the game and the same for expansions...

    Shouldn't those cosmetics be rewarded in game during gameplay?
    Not anymore. It sucks but its the times we live in. Again Blizzard said this game is years away. So even if this game comes out 2 years away I can only imagine what greedy business practices businesses will have thought up by then
    An optional subscription as well - i.e. sign up for a regular purchase of MTX tokens with a sugar coating - for one.

    Ugh please no.

    Thars what BDO does - B2P, with subscription, with heavy cash shop and with RNG loot from cash shop deals too... (pet boxes come to mind with RNG tiers)

    Just no.
    lovely how some people ask to be F in the ass no?

    they know cash shop f games, games are build around the cash shop, not the other way around, and when games are build around the cash shop even paying is not fun, you pay to stop that annoying feature to disapear, but in doing so you don't feel the fun anymore
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    edited November 2019
    Ginaz said:
    IceAge said:
    Ginaz said:
    IceAge said:
    Bunch of ..lads jumping on the hate train lol.

    Diablo 3, hello? We got big free updates and we still get, for FREE. They should of enable MTX on D3 if you're asking me a long time ago. Of course, just cosmetics. 

    So before jumping on the hate train, just .. have a bit of common sense. You will not see any form of "boosts" in D4 that's for sure and I see no problem if they sell weapon/armor skins, mount skins, etc. If they keep the same agenda as with D3, damn, let them sell whatever cosmetics they want as long as free updates are plenty with big paid x-pacs like RoS.

    I mean, if you see WoW mounts/pets shop as something which stops you for playing the game, then yea, ignore D4 and move on.

    PS: Whats with the CAPS on the WILL and MTX ? WoW, HoTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch ..Starcraft 2 have it : https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/starcraft-ii . So what's the ..problem here?!








    Wow, you really like to White Knight hard for Blizzard.  Is that cool thing Edge Lords do these days?


    So, if I don't jump on the Blizzard hate train, I'm a White Knight? Well, sorry for not joining the "Hate Guild" extravagantza. Call me White Knight, I'm good. A lot better then to have a "crystal ball" to say the dark future of D4. 


    The only reason I mention it is because you seem to take any criticism of Blizzard REALLY personally.  Why is your source self identity and worth so tied to the fortunes of a corporation that cares nothing for you?
    Personal? I think you confuse me with .. i don't know, Kano maybe? 

    Decent criticism are OK. Criticism however, which are based on the Blizzard hate, are not ok. 

    I'm commenting on games I like. You don't see me commenting on games I don't like. What's the point? 

    Well, that...corporation, has offered and it's still offering me, one of the best moments in my gaming history. Yes, they also made some bad decisions which I don't like, BfA x-pac for exemple and 2018 Blizzcon, for which they "paid" for it ( I didn't bought anything from Blizzard for almost a year - until Classic launched ). 

    So yea, seems we have very different ..ideologies of how legit criticisms should impact my gaming hobby. Legit criticisms yes? And not criticisms based on .. "emotions" like the Hong Kong ..thing.

    Blizzard is still light years away when it comes to his customers, in comparation with .. I don't know, EA? 

    So yeah, I still support Blizzard and I believe they also still.. care about their customers.


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  • MykellMykell Member UncommonPosts: 780

    Arterius said:


    DMKano said:


    Arterius said:

    I am ok with cosmetic MTX only. Look, MTX are not going anywhere and 3-4 years from now MTX's might be more in your face then they are today. If they stick with this model until release I would be more then happy



    The real issue is cosmetic mtx in F2P games is understandable 

    But cosmetic MTX in B2P games with B2P expansions.... 

    As pointed above- you are already paying $40-$60 for the game and the same for expansions...

    Shouldn't those cosmetics be rewarded in game during gameplay?


    Not anymore. It sucks but its the times we live in. Again Blizzard said this game is years away. So even if this game comes out 2 years away I can only imagine what greedy business practices businesses will have thought up by then



    Borderlands 3 has managed pretty well just selling the game with no cash shop. It just *gasp* gave away free skins for Halloween.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    DMKano said:
    IceAge said:
    Ginaz said:
    IceAge said:
    Ginaz said:
    IceAge said:
    Bunch of ..lads jumping on the hate train lol.

    Diablo 3, hello? We got big free updates and we still get, for FREE. They should of enable MTX on D3 if you're asking me a long time ago. Of course, just cosmetics. 

    So before jumping on the hate train, just .. have a bit of common sense. You will not see any form of "boosts" in D4 that's for sure and I see no problem if they sell weapon/armor skins, mount skins, etc. If they keep the same agenda as with D3, damn, let them sell whatever cosmetics they want as long as free updates are plenty with big paid x-pacs like RoS.

    I mean, if you see WoW mounts/pets shop as something which stops you for playing the game, then yea, ignore D4 and move on.

    PS: Whats with the CAPS on the WILL and MTX ? WoW, HoTS, Hearthstone, Overwatch ..Starcraft 2 have it : https://eu.shop.battle.net/en-us/family/starcraft-ii . So what's the ..problem here?!








    Wow, you really like to White Knight hard for Blizzard.  Is that cool thing Edge Lords do these days?


    So, if I don't jump on the Blizzard hate train, I'm a White Knight? Well, sorry for not joining the "Hate Guild" extravagantza. Call me White Knight, I'm good. A lot better then to have a "crystal ball" to say the dark future of D4. 


    The only reason I mention it is because you seem to take any criticism of Blizzard REALLY personally.  Why is your source self identity and worth so tied to the fortunes of a corporation that cares nothing for you?
    Personal? I think you confuse me with .. i don't know, Kano maybe? 

    Decent criticism are OK. Criticism however, which are based on the Blizzard hate, are not ok. 

    I'm commenting on games I like. You don't see me commenting on games I don't like. What's the point? 

    Well, that...corporation, has offered and it's still offering me, one of the best moments in my gaming history. Yes, they also made some bad decisions which I don't like, BfA x-pac for exemple and 2018 Blizzcon, for which they "paid" for it ( I didn't bought anything from Blizzard for almost a year - until Classic launched ). 

    So yea, seems we have very different ..ideologies of how legit criticisms should impact my gaming hobby. Legit criticisms yes? And not criticisms based on .. "emotions" like the Hong Kong ..thing.

    Blizzard is still light years away when it comes to his customers, in comparation with .. I don't know, EA? 

    So yeah, I still support Blizzard and I believe they also still.. care about their customers.




    They also support their emplyees.

    They fired 800 of them while posting profits in billions. 

    Awesome company 
    Well .. they had their reasons. How many companies fire people on a daily basis ? 

    I'm not saying and never did, that I am supporting every "move" they make, but again, they are far better then many companies out there ... still!

    And yes, awesome company. I agree :) 

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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    I already lost interest in D4 when i heard it will be always online. I'm OK with mmos being always online, not single player games.
    Asm0deus




  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    Mykell said:

    Arterius said:


    DMKano said:


    Arterius said:

    I am ok with cosmetic MTX only. Look, MTX are not going anywhere and 3-4 years from now MTX's might be more in your face then they are today. If they stick with this model until release I would be more then happy



    The real issue is cosmetic mtx in F2P games is understandable 

    But cosmetic MTX in B2P games with B2P expansions.... 

    As pointed above- you are already paying $40-$60 for the game and the same for expansions...

    Shouldn't those cosmetics be rewarded in game during gameplay?


    Not anymore. It sucks but its the times we live in. Again Blizzard said this game is years away. So even if this game comes out 2 years away I can only imagine what greedy business practices businesses will have thought up by then



    Borderlands 3 has managed pretty well just selling the game with no cash shop. It just *gasp* gave away free skins for Halloween.
    Yay , but they have seasons pass : 

    Continue your Borderlands 3 adventure with the Season Pass, featuring exclusive cosmetic items and four story campaign add-ons with new missions and challenges!

    So, yeah! Exclusive cosmetic items locked under a season pass and also story campaign. 

    In May 2019 they said there will also be a MTX selling only cosmetic items. I .. don't know if there is yet in the game, but .. it seems there will be one. 

    PS: Seasons Pass are the worst thing ever made for games. 


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    edited November 2019
    DMKano said:


    You do you, it's all good.

    Blizzard was an awesome company- but under Activision- I dont believe they are anymore. 

    Time will tell - we will see how they do as far as game quality and sales.


    It's not unheard of for publicly traded companies to lay people off and still make a profit. 

    It's not awesome by any means but if one understands that publicly traded companies want to always maximize profits then it makes sense. 

    Yet people still work for them.

    edit: and if what Cryomatrix says is true and they decided to "go in a different direction", again it sucks but, what did you think would happen?


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