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Phantasy Star Online 2 Review

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  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,200
    I love how so many are bringing up PSO being 8 years old as a bad thing. The biggest MMOs right now are around that age. FFXIV (ARR) is almost 7 years old, GW2 is almost 8 years old, ESO is 6 years old, and WoW is almost 16 years old. Hell, even BDO is nearly 6 years old.
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  • UnrealRpgUnrealRpg Member UncommonPosts: 138
    Most of these comments sound like people don't even know what Phantasy Star Online is or was.
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  • RellzRellz Member UncommonPosts: 46
    This Dated but its still fun, look at WoW talking about a very dated MMO thats fun too though.
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  • kipicbloudkipicbloud Member UncommonPosts: 10





    Mikeha said:

    The game is one of the best MMOs out. Good review.


    Completely agree.

    I played quite a bit on the Xbox but am waiting for PC launch to continue as I don't want to have to redo content a bunch of times. 

    The game is fun, I like the open nature of the skills and how you can freely switch between 3 different weapons (or the same depending on what you want). The instancing was a bit hard to get used to, also the massive amount of content thrown at you at once was daunting, but the game was some of the most fun I've had in an MMORPG in a long while. 







    psst, cross play and cross account have been confirmed between PC and Xbox One.
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  • DarkswormDarksworm Member RarePosts: 1,081
    edited May 2020



    kitarad said:


    Viper482 said:



    kitarad said:


    So what if it is dated it is a bloody good game.






    What makes it any different from the other Asian MMO crap we have seen ported to the west?




    Ignore the part where he rants about the game not releasing in the west. Start at 2.28...You can have a pretty good idea why this game is good from this video.

    I also jumped through the hoops to play the game in Japanese.



    Maybe some players just hate the Japanese?  Perhaps they still can't get over Pearl Harbor for some reason?  Even though America dropped atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  And honestly...<REDACTED>...





    I don't hate Japan. I just don't like their RPGs and PC Culture enforced through EULAs. I just don't like their particular style of game, the art style, or the way they have booming music all the time... It's why I can't play FFXIV.

    No one here was alive when Pearl Harbor happened, so you can stop acting like you were there and witnessed what happened.

    I'd hate to imagine what you would tell Jews if a German company developed an MMORPG you liked...

    Clearly, they'd be Deutschphobic if they didn't like it, right?
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ok.. real question.

    If I loaded up and played this game.. how is is better then say TERA, Aion, or FF14?


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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I laugh at the few posts above.FFXI is a JPN game and contains none of that "booming" music,i don't even know where you get that notion from because it is similar in all cultures of gaming>>>a mixed bag.

    There is also a well know THEME song from FFX "Return to Zanarkand" that MANY an artist has copied and presented to You Tube videos.It is the FURTHEST thing from booming music ..lol.

    Now there most certainly is a distinct design to games from different cultures,some more prevalent than others but again it can be hit n miss like in any culture.One example that could be tagged to JPN gaming is the oft used ANIME theme.

    To poster above,this game is NOT better than ANY of those 3 you mentioned,it is simply or was simply heavily influenced by marketing like all new games.A recent example Persona 5,also that anime theme but a game i can't stand,i feel, it looks like utter crap but with heavy marketing,paid off websites/reviewers it garners  more attention than it deserves.
    There is definitely a case to WHAT type of game attracts sales,like i have noticed a heavy influence of Anime being attracted to gamer's who simply grew up during that era.I have NEVER been one to get trapped into my generation of beliefs,i have my own beliefs in how a certain genre should play out and i seek it,it doesn't seek me.

    I guess in a way i was lucky because when i was very young the only gaming we knew was Monopoly or chess/checkers so i had no influences of any kind other than board games.
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  • Ancient_ExileAncient_Exile Member RarePosts: 1,303
    edited May 2020
    Darksworm said:



    kitarad said:


    Viper482 said:



    kitarad said:


    So what if it is dated it is a bloody good game.






    What makes it any different from the other Asian MMO crap we have seen ported to the west?




    Ignore the part where he rants about the game not releasing in the west. Start at 2.28...You can have a pretty good idea why this game is good from this video.

    I also jumped through the hoops to play the game in Japanese.



    Maybe some players just hate the Japanese?  Perhaps they still can't get over Pearl Harbor for some reason?  Even though America dropped atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.  And honestly...<REDACTED>...





    I don't hate Japan. I just don't like their RPGs and PC Culture enforced through EULAs. I just don't like their particular style of game, the art style, or the way they have booming music all the time... It's why I can't play FFXIV.

    No one here was alive when Pearl Harbor happened, so you can stop acting like you were there and witnessed what happened.

    I'd hate to imagine what you would tell Jews if a German company developed an MMORPG you liked...

    Clearly, they'd be Deutschphobic if they didn't like it, right?



    Perhaps you did not read any of my posts in this thread following the one by which you were so greatly offended?  If not, then I recommend you do so.  If you still can't figure it out, congratulations...



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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Ungood said:
    Ok.. real question.

    If I loaded up and played this game.. how is is better then say TERA, Aion, or FF14?


    Depends on what you think "better" means. It's a different game than any of those, it has casual pieces of the game, and hefty grinds for those that really want to min/max. 

    It's more streamlined than those games in some areas, but also has a ton of class customization. 

    I guess it just depends on what you enjoy and what would make it better than those games... for you.
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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    I adore anime so these types of games check all the right boxes for me. I also played the game in Japan. Boy signing up for it required some serious research and commitment.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    PC
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    Date
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    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • Cybersig211Cybersig211 Member UncommonPosts: 174
    Miss the older sega party/turned based games where you had a lot of unique members but not enough room for all.

    Not sure im fully down with the new style of the IP, granted it took them a decade to try to bring it here....maybe ill take a look.

    Really a sad state of affairs in the mmorpg world where a 10 year old port is a big deal, and the game with the most news is WOW...still....and one new western AAA mmorpg on the horizon that doesnt seem to know where it wants to go.

    Are we really at a state where a 10 year old port is hype?
  • KenrichKenrich Member UncommonPosts: 127
    It comes out on the 27th 1 day after minecraft dungeons :o
    o.O

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    DMKano said:
    Kenrich said:
    It comes out on the 27th 1 day after minecraft dungeons :o

    Yep guess which game I'm gonna play and which one I'm gonna skip entirely?

    Yeah the one I'm gonna play has blocks ;)



    Also the obsession with Japan in western culture (especially when it comes to younger people) is pretty dumb.

    Guess what - go live in Japan for a couple of years - and you'll see that it's nowhere near as great in reality - the work culture is awful, people are polite on surface but really don't give a crap about foreigners at all and actually dislike foreign influence, the society is very close minded etc...

    No you are not welcomed in Japan - look past the surface politeness, look at the work culture, look at discrimination against foreigners, look at the stupid high cost of living, gender inequality is accepted as normal etc.. etc..



    again that can be said about any country and culture, there is some good things and other bad things in all places where there is people, plus we are talking aobut a game who old timers played still on megadrive and later in emulators, in the end is all about quality with all new mmo is lacking, i'm far more willing to talk about what they put in the games based on the company  country tehy culture is based and then try if it a good game or not

    defending western or asian games is a waste of time, both side have good and bad games
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  • Ancient_ExileAncient_Exile Member RarePosts: 1,303
    DMKano said:
    Kenrich said:
    It comes out on the 27th 1 day after minecraft dungeons :o

    Yep guess which game I'm gonna play and which one I'm gonna skip entirely?

    Yeah the one I'm gonna play has blocks ;)



    Also the obsession with Japan in western culture (especially when it comes to younger people) is pretty dumb.

    Guess what - go live in Japan for a couple of years - and you'll see that it's nowhere near as great in reality - the work culture is awful, people are polite on surface but really don't give a crap about foreigners at all and actually dislike foreign influence, the society is very close minded etc...

    No you are not welcomed in Japan - look past the surface politeness, look at the work culture, look at discrimination against foreigners, look at the stupid high cost of living, gender inequality is accepted as normal etc.. etc..









    Note:  This article contains a few inaccuracies.  For example, it doesn't even mention Robotech.  Nor the fact that anime videos were available for rent at places like Blockbuster Video and Tower Records in the 1990s.



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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    DMKano said:
    Kenrich said:
    It comes out on the 27th 1 day after minecraft dungeons :o

    Yep guess which game I'm gonna play and which one I'm gonna skip entirely?

    Yeah the one I'm gonna play has blocks ;)



    Also the obsession with Japan in western culture (especially when it comes to younger people) is pretty dumb.

    Guess what - go live in Japan for a couple of years - and you'll see that it's nowhere near as great in reality - the work culture is awful, people are polite on surface but really don't give a crap about foreigners at all and actually dislike foreign influence, the society is very close minded etc...

    No you are not welcomed in Japan - look past the surface politeness, look at the work culture, look at discrimination against foreigners, look at the stupid high cost of living, gender inequality is accepted as normal etc.. etc..


     I don't anticipate Minecraft Dungeons to hold my attention very long. Then again, Minecraft itself didn't hold my attention for long either.

    In regards to Japan, it's a moot point. Japan actually has a pretty high tourism business. It's actually one of the top 10 countries for tourism in general. Simply telling anyone to "go live there for a few years" is ridiculous. Go live anywhere out of left field for a few years, I think you'll find pretty quickly that, if you can't speak the language, and you don't understand the customs, you won't find it very easy to get by. 

    Regardless of how you think people who are "obsessed" with Japan actually feel about content coming out of Japan, it has nothing to do with PSO. PSO has been PSO for more than 20 years. 

    People can like something from Japan and not be "obsessed with Japan." 

    So far, PSO2 has been pretty popular on the XBOX, by comparison, YOU should be thankful. SEGA and Microsoft aren't trying to hide an 8 year old, Japanese game behind "westernized" design changes. They aren't "reimagining" combat, or changing the loot structure, or pretending that this is a completely different game than what it is like so many of the other Asian games that port to the west.  PSO is just PSO.  For those that like it, it's going to be what they expect.

    Nothing wrong with that at all. 



  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,064
    I may try it at least once. But I remember reading another reviewer say that the story is bad, but you don't play this kind of game for the story but for the game play and the game play and the game play is enough.. or something along those lines, but I'm the complete opposite. I will bare with a game with good story and bad game play, but will not bare with a game with bad story no matter how great the game play is. I don't really care about the action, for me the story is the main dish and the action is just a side.
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  • Ancient_ExileAncient_Exile Member RarePosts: 1,303
    DMKano said:
    Kenrich said:
    It comes out on the 27th 1 day after minecraft dungeons :o

    Yep guess which game I'm gonna play and which one I'm gonna skip entirely?

    Yeah the one I'm gonna play has blocks ;)



    Also the obsession with Japan in western culture (especially when it comes to younger people) is pretty dumb.

    Guess what - go live in Japan for a couple of years - and you'll see that it's nowhere near as great in reality - the work culture is awful, people are polite on surface but really don't give a crap about foreigners at all and actually dislike foreign influence, the society is very close minded etc...

    No you are not welcomed in Japan - look past the surface politeness, look at the work culture, look at discrimination against foreigners, look at the stupid high cost of living, gender inequality is accepted as normal etc.. etc..


     I don't anticipate Minecraft Dungeons to hold my attention very long. Then again, Minecraft itself didn't hold my attention for long either.

    In regards to Japan, it's a moot point. Japan actually has a pretty high tourism business. It's actually one of the top 10 countries for tourism in general. Simply telling anyone to "go live there for a few years" is ridiculous. Go live anywhere out of left field for a few years, I think you'll find pretty quickly that, if you can't speak the language, and you don't understand the customs, you won't find it very easy to get by. 

    Regardless of how you think people who are "obsessed" with Japan actually feel about content coming out of Japan, it has nothing to do with PSO. PSO has been PSO for more than 20 years. 

    People can like something from Japan and not be "obsessed with Japan." 

    So far, PSO2 has been pretty popular on the XBOX, by comparison, YOU should be thankful. SEGA and Microsoft aren't trying to hide an 8 year old, Japanese game behind "westernized" design changes. They aren't "reimagining" combat, or changing the loot structure, or pretending that this is a completely different game than what it is like so many of the other Asian games that port to the west.  PSO is just PSO.  For those that like it, it's going to be what they expect.

    Nothing wrong with that at all. 




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  • KumaponKumapon Member EpicPosts: 1,605
    I got my credit card ready !


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