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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    cheyane said:
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.
    You can do whatever you'll set your mind into in Souls! You might not have the reflexes and dexterity of your younger self but your certainly more mature and wise to you'll learn to decode the patterns of the enemies. You can go with a tanky character wielding Spear+Shield combo to not rely so much in movement but being able to tank damage or go ranged dps with a mage character.
    cheyaneGorwe
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    cheyane said:


    Sovrath said:


    cheyane said:

    Whenever I try to convince myself I could play this I just have to watch a youtube video that will quickly disabuse me of that notion. The reflexes required are Herculean by my standards. I really envy you young people.


    Gorwe is right, it's about learning the attack patterns, not freaking out when being attacked (which an of course cause mistakes)

    I'm 53 and other than wrestling with the unfamiliarity of a controller, once I get used to it (I have to practice) I usually do well enough.

    PC Controls are "ok" more so with something like Dark Souls 3.

    You just have to be ok with dying. Don't let that get you down, consider it part of the fun and you will be ok.


    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.



    There is quick and there is "quick." So it's not Devil May Cry or anything like that.

    you should watch some streams to get an idea. There is a guy called "fightingCowboy" on YouTube and he does some Souls playthroughs.

    Here is the start of his Demons Souls series. You can judge for yourself what is required and if you could do it.

    I would say that if you wanted to try a Souls game, Dark Souls 3 works better with keyboard and mouse than Dark Souls or 2.

    I am assuming they will carry this through with Demon's Souls when it comes to PC but we'll see.

    cheyane
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    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


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    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    edited November 2020
    Sovrath said:

    cheyane said:


    Sovrath said:


    cheyane said:

    Whenever I try to convince myself I could play this I just have to watch a youtube video that will quickly disabuse me of that notion. The reflexes required are Herculean by my standards. I really envy you young people.


    Gorwe is right, it's about learning the attack patterns, not freaking out when being attacked (which an of course cause mistakes)

    I'm 53 and other than wrestling with the unfamiliarity of a controller, once I get used to it (I have to practice) I usually do well enough.

    PC Controls are "ok" more so with something like Dark Souls 3.

    You just have to be ok with dying. Don't let that get you down, consider it part of the fun and you will be ok.


    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.



    There is quick and there is "quick." So it's not Devil May Cry or anything like that.

    you should watch some streams to get an idea. There is a guy called "fightingCowboy" on YouTube and he does some Souls playthroughs.

    Here is the start of his Demons Souls series. You can judge for yourself what is required and if you could do it.

    I would say that if you wanted to try a Souls game, Dark Souls 3 works better with keyboard and mouse than Dark Souls or 2.

    I am assuming they will carry this through with Demon's Souls when it comes to PC but we'll see.



    Hmm Dark Souls III huh , I cannot believe I'm saying this but you guys have convinced me. I am going to see if I can get the game at a good discount after watching a few more videos. You guys are amazing thanks.

    One question if you die do you lose all progress and go back to the very beginning?

    Wow the fates have spoken,  it's on Humble Bundle for 15 Euros.
    https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dark-souls-iii?hmb_campaign=related_products_1_0&hmb_source=store_product_page&hmb_medium=related_products
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    edited November 2020
    cheyane said:
    Hmm Dark Souls III huh , I cannot believe I'm saying this but you guys have convinced me. I am going to see if I can get the game at a good discount after watching a few more videos. You guys are amazing thanks.

    One question if you die do you lose all progress and go back to the very beginning?

    Wow the fates have spoken,  it's on Humble Bundle for 15 Euros.
    https://www.humblebundle.com/store/dark-souls-iii?hmb_campaign=related_products_1_0&hmb_source=store_product_page&hmb_medium=related_products
    Souls games work with checkpoints (bonfires) that you unlock as you kill bosses but there's usually hidden paths to avoid enemies. When you die you lose "souls" which is currency used to lvl up and gear up your avatar. You can recover your Souls after death by going back to your body to retrieve them, if you die during the journey to your body you lose the souls.
    Post edited by Babuinix on
    cheyane
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,593
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT.
  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,593
    edited November 2020
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    edited November 2020
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    So is Dark Souls 3 okay to start with ? I will be using a mouse and KB I cannot play with a controller.
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,593
    cheyane said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    So is Dark Souls 3 okay to start with ?
    For you? I would not. I'd definitely go for either Dark Souls 1 (Remastered) or for vanilla, non SotFS Dark Souls 2(do purchase expansions though...the Crowns, but later). Or even Demon's Souls. All 3 could fit you nicely.
    cheyane
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    cheyane
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    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    edited November 2020
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    Yes the KB and Mouse part is very important and also the rebinding on to my mouse. I will dodge with a button the mouse. I use my mouse for everything so if I cannot remap to it I am not able to play because my KB skills are a joke. I can only use WASD on the KB.

    The reason I adored HZD was because I could remap everything to my mouse making it a cinch to play. That and the fact that I played it on easy mode.
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,593
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    cheyane
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    I might not even get through the first few parts .The end game bosses are not the issue because I must be able to at least play the game.

    I had a lot of fun in Monster Hunter World in spite of never finishing it. I just hunted the first few creatures over and over. I don't mind not being able to complete the game but if I cannot progress even at the beginning it will be pointless to talk about end game for a person like me.
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,593
    cheyane said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    I might not even get through the first few parts .The end game bosses are not the issue because I must be able to at least play the game.

    I had a lot of fun in Monster Hunter World in spite of never finishing it. I just hunted the first few creatures over and over. I don't mind not being able to complete the game but if I cannot progress even at the beginning it will be pointless to talk about end game for a person like me.
    Fair. Do you want to try it?
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    Agree, 3 has some serious Simon Says moments that are quite brutal in a bullet hell meets QTE way.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    lahnmir said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    Agree, 3 has some serious Simon Says moments that are quite brutal in a bullet hell meets QTE way.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Oh I see Simon says lol I take instructions poorly. 

    I am playing Grim Dawn now created 3 more toons and just enjoying new builds.
    I will decide after I watch more videos, my son vetoed the idea says I will not be able to play it. He seemed quite confident.
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  • GorweGorwe Member Posts: 1,593
    cheyane said:
    lahnmir said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    Agree, 3 has some serious Simon Says moments that are quite brutal in a bullet hell meets QTE way.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Oh I see Simon says lol I take instructions poorly. 

    I am playing Grim Dawn now created 3 more toons and just enjoying new builds.
    I will decide after I watch more videos, my son vetoed the idea says I will not be able to play it. He seemed quite confident.
    You should be able to play DeS and the first two Dark Souls, no doubt about that. I'm just uncertain about DkS 3 and Sekiro.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    lahnmir said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    Agree, 3 has some serious Simon Says moments that are quite brutal in a bullet hell meets QTE way.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Oh I see Simon says lol I take instructions poorly. 

    I am playing Grim Dawn now created 3 more toons and just enjoying new builds.
    I will decide after I watch more videos, my son vetoed the idea says I will not be able to play it. He seemed quite confident.
    You should be able to play DeS and the first two Dark Souls, no doubt about that. I'm just uncertain about DkS 3 and Sekiro.
    The controls in Dark Souls remastered are still crap. That's why I had to resort to practicing with a controller. Trust me, I hate controllers.

    @cheyane: maybe wait until Demons Souls comes out on PC.
    Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb." 

    Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w


    Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547

    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    lahnmir said:
    Gorwe said:
    Sovrath said:
    Gorwe said:
    cheyane said:
    Babuinix said:
    cheyane said:
    You memorise the patterns and you can succeed, no quick dodge and avoid required? I mean just study the mob and then you can kill it ?

    Hello I had problems playing Horizon Zero dawn on normal I played it on easy. I not convinced I can play this but will go and watch some videos of people playing it from the beginning. See if I can actually see the way they play.

    I am 65 and no controllers for me just mouse and KB. Controllers only for turn based games.
    Depends a lot in how you build your char and what weapons you use but the game relies on player (dying) experience a lot. What every Souls like game does is having death as a learning lesson. Embracing it goes a long way dealing with the frustration :)  
    I really want to believe this because if I can even play this halfway I would be personally impressed with myself. You're right though about dying being a learning exercise because with death comes the knowledge of how you died. Repeated deaths would suggest you would learn eventually how to avoid said death.

    My main issue isn't about the death I can handle that it is only when they want you to perform a series of quick action moves which my poor old hands simply cannot manage that I will fail. From what I have observed players characters are moving very quickly to dodge and get out of the way. This type of actions is simply beyond me no matter how many times I die is what I am afraid of. Path of Exile finally defeated me this way in the maps when I started making negative progress dying and losing more experience than I gained and I had to finally admit to myself I had reached the end of what I was capable of.

    I play ARPGs and I can dodge and do stuff but not very well which is why I play pet classes or those with ice attacks to slow down the enemy and thereby giving me some room for mistakes. Or ones with turrets or other forms of assistance because if I have to depend on my own skills we are in far more shit than I care to say. I fear this game is rather unforgiving towards the type of mistakes I envisage I will be making quite frequently.

    Although I am definitely intrigued but given that I cannot even make the cliffside in Recore and had to give up because I jump so badly and why I never played a Lara Croft game because I cannot jump accurately. I hated Blackfathom Depths as I fell at the entrance without fail every single time and slowed everyone down and when the PUG group started yelling I would say sorry and leave... get another healer if you cannot help me get to you.

    Thanks for igniting the possibility of me playing this game I am quite happy you all have such confidence which I personally lack of my own skills at these games. 
    Do you want to play Souls or not? I am not asking about CAN, but WANT. Also I suggest not starting with BloodBorne or anything designed after it(Dark Souls 3, Sekiro). They are much more rhythmic and taxing on hands. If Dark Souls 2 didn't have that shitty, floaty camera, I'd suggest going for that. NOT Scholar of the First Sin though! That's important.

    Feel free to ask anything. I have played almost everything except Cinders mod. Will have to rectify that, but I need to find a framework(don't ask)...
    The keyboard and mouse won't work well with Dark Souls 1 or 2. 

    I think she should be able to handle 3.
    I know. But will she be able to handle any of the late game bosses(Champion Gundark, Cindy, Dragonslayer or, god forbid, Nameless King)?

    Dark Souls Remastered could be a nice compromise. 3 could be too hectic at times and 2 does indeed have mouse camera problems.
    Agree, 3 has some serious Simon Says moments that are quite brutal in a bullet hell meets QTE way.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Oh I see Simon says lol I take instructions poorly. 

    I am playing Grim Dawn now created 3 more toons and just enjoying new builds.
    I will decide after I watch more videos, my son vetoed the idea says I will not be able to play it. He seemed quite confident.
    You should be able to play DeS and the first two Dark Souls, no doubt about that. I'm just uncertain about DkS 3 and Sekiro.
    The controls in Dark Souls remastered are still crap. That's why I had to resort to practicing with a controller. Trust me, I hate controllers.

    @cheyane: maybe wait until Demons Souls comes out on PC.
    Thanks everyone for helping me I will watch some videos. The offer is for another 7 days and I should be able to decide before that. The fights are a bit hard from what I am seeing and the only reason I didn't die as much in HZD was the difficulty setting. 

    The fact is most of you take these things for granted because you are able to do it. You don't actually understand how bad I am so you're probably thinking there's no way I can't do it. However if you're slow and clumsy like I am , I mean I could not even get the attack thing in Phantasy Star Online 2. It is called just attack and I practiced like almost a whole week and I still missed 50% of the time. It is not an exaggeration I am a horrible player. My interest and wishes far outweigh my capacity.


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