Your "logic and substance" was just your opinion dressed up as something important, don't flatter yourself. I ignored it because it wasn't worth responding to in the first place. Also, attacking? Half of what you write is more insulting than what I wrote there, don't BS me. Exposing unicorns is only considered derrailing when you're a unicorn spawner lol Quoted for truth, if you had a little moment of being less full of yourself you might notice you are talking about yourself here. You're constantly painting this amazing picture by tying together everything seemingly related you can get your hands on and are willfully ignoring other opinions and insights by shouting down everything else. you really aren't contributing anything here contrary to what you might think, 'proving me right, again.' I don't know why I bother, maybe its because I know you are doing this on purpose and not because you're a simple troll/fanboy/white knight. You are your avatar on these forums, don't downplay that to "fluff." unless that's what you consider yourself. I know I do.
Sorry but you'll have to do better than that. I answered your "questions" and engaged in a "game discussion" when you pretended to care about the topic at hand remember, instead of keeping up you pulled some unicorns about fluff and ignore the topic at hand showing your true colours once again.
You don't seem all interested in game development, crowdfunding or Star Citizen but instead just trying to cope with the lack of something meaningful to play.
Facts and Data is not "opinion dressed up as something important" just because it exposes some unicorns.
Accept that game development news and crowdfunding art not your thing and move on if you can't handle it. It will be irrelevant either-way.
And there we go. You talk about Facts and Data but all you present is marketing talk accompanied by some “I think this is very good and logical.’ Its not the entire world creating unicorns, its you. Its you thinking you are king of the hill while you are acting like the clown of the circus by thinking you are talking facts and data because you can google pictures and video’s.
As for the rest of your post, gibberish. If you weren’t busy playing SC gestapo on these forums all day you could have known that I constantly Kickstart, have been doing so since before SC, and that I participate in plenty of Alpha and EA projects. You would know that SC is permanently installed on my PC and that I log in regularly. You would also know that I am drowning in high quality games right now.
But you don’t really care about any of that. You talk about attacking and obfuscating but these are your trademarks, not mine. It is what you do, I just respond to your marketing talk and insults. You try to control every single CIG thread on these forums, and unfortunately you are succesful. Not by being the most knowledgable one around but by being the most disruptive and loud marketing tool in the shed. You just drown out every conversation with your spam, hence me saying you aren’t contributing anything, just destroying. You shouldn’t feel proud, you should feel ashamed.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
The data and info I post are indisputable and easily verifiable. Just because it destroys unicorns year after year doesn't mean they can be ignored or that I'm controling a narrative lol
It's just reality of game development and Star Citizen, something 99% here ignore because they don't really care about it besides the irrelevant "drama".
They go from crying that games release in a rushed state to crying about companies taking it's sweet time in the same week...
It'sa as if they are in this perpetual state of being angry at video-games because they got too old, bitter and jadded to enjoy them.
No wonder they get so bothered seeing a game and it's development thrive thanks to a passionate community.
And the biggest irony of them all is that Star Citizen is the best chance to get the "New gen MMORPG with high end graphics, living breathing crafted universe, focus on social aspects, roleplay, skill based gameplay and something that finally could break the WoW clone mold and push the genre forward and back to the limelight" many here are so eager for.
But they're so blinded by ignorance and negativity that they can't even see it taking shape right under their noses lol
And the biggest irony of them all is that Star Citizen is the best chance to get the "New gen MMORPG with high end graphics, living breathing crafted universe, focus on social aspects, roleplay, skill based gameplay and something that finally could break the WoW clone mold and push the genre forward and back to the limelight" many here are so eager for.
And the biggest irony of that statement is neglecting the other elephant in the room. Even IF Star Citizen releases in all of our life times and does deliver a great mmorpg it will also hold the title of one of the biggest p2w games out there. Thats one area you have no defense for ironically and always shy away from. Its preyed very successfully on the epeen whales in the mmorpg community. That "eagerness" will be gone rather quickly after multiple p2w guilds/alliances lock everything worth a damn down on day 1
Being the most knowlegdable person in the room about the subject at hand is not a burden but a privilege.
Assuming you're the most knowledgeable person "in the room" is pretty foolish in any situation. Even more so on an anonymous, public forum.
Well tbh the bar is pretty low when it comes to most Star Citizen threads since 99% of posters don't actually play the game or follow it's development besides clickbait headlines lol
But they're so blinded by ignorance and negativity that they can't even see it taking shape right under their noses lol
Is it though? From the outside looking in it doesn't look like a whole lot is really going on. I'm sure lots of things have been added, and they add up to a bigger whole. But the videos you post now look the same as videos you and others posted years ago. Just people flying or driving around and doing basically fuck all, just in new locations.
The one thing I do notice in all of those videos though is the jankiness, the desync and the lag. Alpha and all, but the game is only going to get bigger and more complicated. SC just seems like a game stuck in development limbo while waiting for our technology and infrastructure to hopefully make it possible.
I'm curious why they didn't just focus on delivering SQ42 first? Who thought it was a good idea to develop two (and at one point three) very complicated games at once? I see zero reason they couldn't have focused on SQ42 and expanded upon the tech and features for SC.
The whole thing seems awful back-asswards to me.
That's the thing though, this project is so big and complex that from the outside you can't fully grasp what's going on without putting some serious effort into knowing what's available right now and what's being done to build the full vision of both games and how they are connected.
On a technical level I'd recommend to start by the Digital Foundry videos:
And on a more entertaining note the Roleplay video of a group of friends showcasing the several gameplay systems meshed together in a epic adventure:
Notice Babuinix wont/can't disprove probably the single biggest flaw of Star Citizen if it does release as some epic mmorpg. That its one of the biggest p2w games out there and only in alpha.
Notice Babuinix wont/can't disprove probably the single biggest flaw of Star Citizen if it does release as some epic mmorpg. That its one of the biggest p2w games out there and only in alpha.
Yeah I just buy all the epic ships and Win by pressing the instant nuke button while asteroid hugging Keep out!
Notice Babuinix wont/can't disprove probably the single biggest flaw of Star Citizen if it does release as some epic mmorpg. That its one of the biggest p2w games out there and only in alpha.
Yeah I just buy all the epic ships and Win by pressing the instant nuke button while asteroid hugging Keep out!
So your logic is because you personally have not bought the best ships and there is not literally an "instant kill" button it therefore is not p2w? Wow, that was an amazing defense... not. You know Star Citizen is p2w, everyone does. There is no counter, you, the Master of Derailing just proved it. So no matter how amazing the game turns out its going to be a whales wet dream.
Notice Babuinix wont/can't disprove probably the single biggest flaw of Star Citizen if it does release as some epic mmorpg. That its one of the biggest p2w games out there and only in alpha.
Yeah I just buy all the epic ships and Win by pressing the instant nuke button while asteroid hugging Keep out!
So your logic is because you personally have not bought the best ships and there is not literally an "instant kill" button it therefore is not p2w? Wow, that was an amazing defense... not. You know Star Citizen is p2w, everyone does. There is no counter, you, the Master of Derailing just proved it. So no matter how amazing the game turns out its going to be a whales wet dream.
I don't think you are in a position to make informed claims about a game you know very little and never actually played but yeah, you should absolutely stay away from it
Notice Babuinix wont/can't disprove probably the single biggest flaw of Star Citizen if it does release as some epic mmorpg. That its one of the biggest p2w games out there and only in alpha.
Yeah I just buy all the epic ships and Win by pressing the instant nuke button while asteroid hugging Keep out!
So your logic is because you personally have not bought the best ships and there is not literally an "instant kill" button it therefore is not p2w? Wow, that was an amazing defense... not. You know Star Citizen is p2w, everyone does. There is no counter, you, the Master of Derailing just proved it. So no matter how amazing the game turns out its going to be a whales wet dream.
I don't think you are in a position to make informed claims about a game you know very little and never actually played but yeah, you should absolutely stay away from it
Actually I have played the game before, not sure how that actually relates to it being p2w or not though. With that said, you still have not actually answered how you believe Star Citizen is not p2w. All you have done is try to side step the question with some very vague and derailing comments. You like to try to prove people wrong so please, prove me wrong, how is Star Citizen not p2w?
lets not forget that there is a history of also throwing in larger packages in the mix, so based on history we can expect this practice to continue up until and into release.
No, you haven't if you did you wouldn't be making such idiotic claim in the first place.
(You are STILL not answering how its not p2w) I did on 2 free fly events. However, that has no bearing unless your counter is 'you can get everything in the game without buying it with real money'... which has to do with what? You do know what p2w means right? It means using real money to purchase things in game to gain an unfair advantage/pay to progress/win.
So with what I already previously linked, how is that not p2w? Or are you going to just continue to side step the direct question? Please enlighten me on how its an idiotic claim instead of giving vague and non-relevant responses. Normally you would go into great detail in defense of something someone said, this time all you are doing is deflecting.
No, you haven't if you did you wouldn't be making such idiotic claim in the first place.
(You are STILL not answering how its not p2w) I did on 2 free fly events. However, that has no bearing unless your counter is 'you can get everything in the game without buying it with real money'... which has to do with what? You do know what p2w means right? It means using real money to purchase things in game to gain an unfair advantage/pay to progress/win.
So with what I already previously linked, how is that not p2w? Or are you going to just continue to side step the direct question? Please enlighten me on how its an idiotic claim instead of giving vague and non-relevant responses. Normally you would go into great detail in defense of something someone said, this time all you are doing is deflecting.
After all the trolling and baiting You'll have to work your way up to deserve any discussion on good faith alone lol
Maybe start by explaining what P2W aspects you encountered during your 2 Free fly Events.
Again, the video shows almost nothing. Just janky movement and animations, desync and lag. You can roleplay anything in any game, groups of people can have fun in any game.
The technical videos are exactly that. No one will deny the game looks pretty, though by the time it actually releases I imagine it wont look like anything special. The game is great to look at, the problem comes in when players start doing anything other than showing off the environments.
Nothing in those videos explains why SC must exist, or mostly exist before SQ42. I get that the games share many systems, but there's no reason they couldn't have developed what was needed for SQ42 first and then expanded on it for SC. Starting small and scaling up is generally the logical way to go about things.
If you think the video shows "almost nothing" you're not paying attention or don't understand the technology behind it lol
Forget the visuals, they are impressive but they are not what makes Star Citizen special, it's the fact that it's combining many gameplay elements from different genres, meshing them together in a single huge seamless online universe without loading screens. Add to the fact that It's attention to detail, scale, scope and depth at micro and macro scale go hand in hand while pushing on the physics and simulation aspect, something that most mmo's have to neglect for the sake of cost/performance/accessibility.
So one could be fumbling around planetside with a tractor beam:
While a bit further up a Organization (guild) attempts to kill a Capital Ship ("world boss").
Meanwhile a bunch of friends crew a mining ship on a planet millions of km away:
A Bounty Hunter hunts a criminal Player on some secluded space station:
No, you haven't if you did you wouldn't be making such idiotic claim in the first place.
(You are STILL not answering how its not p2w) I did on 2 free fly events. However, that has no bearing unless your counter is 'you can get everything in the game without buying it with real money'... which has to do with what? You do know what p2w means right? It means using real money to purchase things in game to gain an unfair advantage/pay to progress/win.
So with what I already previously linked, how is that not p2w? Or are you going to just continue to side step the direct question? Please enlighten me on how its an idiotic claim instead of giving vague and non-relevant responses. Normally you would go into great detail in defense of something someone said, this time all you are doing is deflecting.
After all the trolling and baiting You'll have to work your way up to deserve any discussion on good faith alone lol
Maybe start by explaining what P2W aspects you encountered during your 2 Free fly Events.
Again, the video shows almost nothing. Just janky movement and animations, desync and lag. You can roleplay anything in any game, groups of people can have fun in any game.
The technical videos are exactly that. No one will deny the game looks pretty, though by the time it actually releases I imagine it wont look like anything special. The game is great to look at, the problem comes in when players start doing anything other than showing off the environments.
Nothing in those videos explains why SC must exist, or mostly exist before SQ42. I get that the games share many systems, but there's no reason they couldn't have developed what was needed for SQ42 first and then expanded on it for SC. Starting small and scaling up is generally the logical way to go about things.
If you think the video shows "almost nothing" you're not paying attention or don't understand the technology behind it lol
Forget the visuals, they are impressive but they are not what makes Star Citizen special, it's the fact that it's combining many gameplay elements from different genres, meshing them together in a single huge seamless online universe without loading screens. Add to the fact that It's attention to detail, scale, scope and depth at micro and macro scale go hand in hand while pushing on the physics and simulation aspect, something that most mmo's have to neglect for the sake of cost/performance/accessibility.
So one could be fumbling around planetside with a tractor beam:
While a bit further up a Organization (guild) attempts to kill a Capital Ship ("world boss").
Meanwhile a bunch of friends crew a mining ship on a planet millions of km away:
A Bounty Hunter hunts a criminal Player on some secluded space station:
While someone has a drink in a industrial City.
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
I will answer, but how about you answer my question I asked first instead of redirecting. Here ill be more specific. How is being able to purchase a $1100 package with multiple in game items not p2w?
You're really reaching trying to counter with "you didn't play long enough to know if buying ships with real money is p2w" btw. Its a space game... you can BUY powerful ships with real money... you can't be serious in thinking one needs to play for dozens of hours to understand if this is p2w or not. Very desperate look.
BTW, I know you will never admit its p2w. You are probably one of the bigger whales in the game and its biggest cheerleader. You will admit no wrong of the game EVER. Its just fun seeing you desperately counter argue.
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
He just got banned for this?
He probably got banned for his constant spamming, sabotaging threads, mocking and ridiculing. And rightfully so, imo of course.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
He just got banned for this?
He probably got banned for his constant spamming, sabotaging threads, mocking and ridiculing. And rightfully so, imo of course.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Ehh... not a fan of that. We have ignore functionality. Better to control what we hear than what someone else can say.
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Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
He just got banned for this?
He probably got banned for his constant spamming, sabotaging threads, mocking and ridiculing. And rightfully so, imo of course.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Ehh... not a fan of that. We have ignore functionality. Better to control what we hear than what someone else can say.
Yeah, I guess you are right. Just to be open about it, I would never try to get someone banned and have reported someone only once (definitely not Babs btw).
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
He just got banned for this?
He probably got banned for his constant spamming, sabotaging threads, mocking and ridiculing. And rightfully so, imo of course.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Ehh... not a fan of that. We have ignore functionality. Better to control what we hear than what someone else can say.
Within limits. Certainly not over game related fights or even personal attacks. I find Babs amusing in his predictable fanboi posts with all his charts showing how Roberts rakes in the cash.
Racist bile and other hate speech I will and have reported though.
It has actually been a much better place here in that respect since one particular poster was banned permanently a few months back. Good riddance.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
A perfect example of what this game looks like to the outsider. People like Babs love to gloat about "another year of record breaking crowdfunding." To the rest of us every year that goes by and every million more raked in just makes the game look more and more like a massive dud.
yup another year come and gone. Covid likely saved saps a few million bucks though as Roberts and Co werent able to hae one of their circle sessions where they have prerecorded footage cued up as 'gameplay' footage to sucker people.
Basically no conventions and no in person fund raising. But I am sur it will be a banner year for them in germs of mney beong rked in.
In a year with the economic wasteland of 2020 they still seem to be able to seperate people from their money pretty easily.
Lmao you are trying really hard to side step and derail. Its ok, no one and I mean absolutely no one would say Star Citizen is not p2w. I really did bait you into an unwinnable subject and you did an admirable job of non answering. You don't need to no life the game to access its store page, nice try though.
Always funny when someone who does 't pkay the game tells the ones who play it how it plays lol
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
He just got banned for this?
Nah, probably some buthurt hater who can't handle the heat so it had to resort to spam reports
He probably got banned for his constant spamming, sabotaging threads, mocking and ridiculing. And rightfully so, imo of course.
Unlikely or else all the posters who constantly troll spam every Star Citizen threads as other crowdfunded games for that matter, insulting games and it's backers would be banned for the same "crimes" lol
Brainwashed by those gifs you bought all those ships
You shout its a scam there is still no game
Its both sad and funny you spent all your money
Its not fair you despair
You dont need to cry though there’s one more thing to try, bro
Here, take this gun...and Have fun
Now, for the record I know you were just taking the piss, even if in a bad taste, like many others do, we backers or supporters of crowdfunded games know these are easy targets, and specially Star Citizen due to it's history.
But ignorant remarks after ignorant remarks like "scam citizen" or many other low effort posts got old back in 2015 and, following that logic, should be bannable offenses to then:
Game Attacks
Unsubstantiated comments about specific or general games will be penalized in nearly the same way attacks against people will. The exception is that you can say mean things about games provided you back it up with reasons. Example: "Game X sucks." is not a legitimate comment. "Game X sucks, because..." is acceptable.
The thing is if rules are followed by the book for everyone no discussion survive unsacthed due to the jaded and bitter nature of a lot of posters along with the general lack will to discuss based on actual factual knowledge and good faith.
Anyway, Happy New Year Folks, I'd cliche my way out saying it can't get worst than 2020 but I'm not sure anymore.
Calling people idiots and butthurt (which you do a lot) can be a quick ticket to the ban hammer if it rubs them the wrong way. So can discussing moderation. Maybe argue points more and use substantiated facts instead of blustering and deflecting?
In the last few pages I read you never did answer how the game isn't Pay 2 Win despite the poster providing examples. You ridiculed and mocked them and now you're just going on the personal offensive again.
Let's get off the personal track and back to the game discussion. I'm curious about the P2W answer because their points definitely convinced me. How is this game not P2W? You can basically buy your way to the top end. Do they still sell ship insurance for real world money? That's pay 2 win.
Saying a claim is idiotic is not calling that person Idiot or else anyone calling Star Citizen a scam would be the same as saying that all backers who support it are idiots and likewise a "bannable" offense.
From someone who's been playing it for years and only spent 200$~ dollars I've yet to find a gameplay session where I've left wondering If I was affected by P2W since I've killed players who've spent 25$k on the game and I've been killed by players who've spent the minimum.
Claiming P2W is showcasing ignorance of what the reality Star Citizen since it breaks most of the tropes of conventional MMORPGS due to how it's designed. The objective is to mimic real life not to make a treadmill of leveling/gear that means whoever nolifes more will reach a BIS paradise that automatically gives you a massive advantage.
> There's no avatar LvL's os Stat grinding.
> You're a human that can drive vehicles. That's it.
Like most things Star Citizen, you need to put the work investigating and understanding how the game designed and how it's being shaped to be a living breathing universe where, much like RL everyone has it's chance to thrive.
That's why you can already have access to any ship for peanuts by just playing the game, that's why you have a Prision for criminals who kill players , why you have bounty missions that actively give you an massive advantage to hunt criminal players.
I was, as you say, taking the piss. I did not mean to offend you. I apologize if I did.
Ofc I know that and I would never take that literally or be offended but maybe you can understand how I feel about my Ban and how anyone can end up being banned due to some ill-intentioned guys just abusing report because they're salty at you.
For the record, I think you're a good poster and genuinely interested in the game and not just about shitposting or baiting drama
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As for the rest of your post, gibberish. If you weren’t busy playing SC gestapo on these forums all day you could have known that I constantly Kickstart, have been doing so since before SC, and that I participate in plenty of Alpha and EA projects. You would know that SC is permanently installed on my PC and that I log in regularly. You would also know that I am drowning in high quality games right now.
But you don’t really care about any of that. You talk about attacking and obfuscating but these are your trademarks, not mine. It is what you do, I just respond to your marketing talk and insults. You try to control every single CIG thread on these forums, and unfortunately you are succesful. Not by being the most knowledgable one around but by being the most disruptive and loud marketing tool in the shed. You just drown out every conversation with your spam, hence me saying you aren’t contributing anything, just destroying. You shouldn’t feel proud, you should feel ashamed.
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
It's just reality of game development and Star Citizen, something 99% here ignore because they don't really care about it besides the irrelevant "drama".
They go from crying that games release in a rushed state to crying about companies taking it's sweet time in the same week...
It'sa as if they are in this perpetual state of being angry at video-games because they got too old, bitter and jadded to enjoy them.
No wonder they get so bothered seeing a game and it's development thrive thanks to a passionate community.
That's the thing though, this project is so big and complex that from the outside you can't fully grasp what's going on without putting some serious effort into knowing what's available right now and what's being done to build the full vision of both games and how they are connected. On a technical level I'd recommend to start by the Digital Foundry videos:
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/game-packages?product_id=&sort=price_desc&search=&itemType=skus&storefront=pledge&type=game-packages&;
lets not forget that there is a history of also throwing in larger packages in the mix, so based on history we can expect this practice to continue up until and into release.
https://www.polygon.com/2018/5/30/17411226/star-citizen-legatus-pack-bundle
So with what I already previously linked, how is that not p2w? Or are you going to just continue to side step the direct question? Please enlighten me on how its an idiotic claim instead of giving vague and non-relevant responses. Normally you would go into great detail in defense of something someone said, this time all you are doing is deflecting.
So, directly and in simple terms:
What P2W experience did you noticed on the 2 FreeFlights events you played? I'm sure everyone is eager to find out.
You're really reaching trying to counter with "you didn't play long enough to know if buying ships with real money is p2w" btw. Its a space game... you can BUY powerful ships with real money... you can't be serious in thinking one needs to play for dozens of hours to understand if this is p2w or not. Very desperate look.
BTW, I know you will never admit its p2w. You are probably one of the bigger whales in the game and its biggest cheerleader. You will admit no wrong of the game EVER. Its just fun seeing you desperately counter argue.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Racist bile and other hate speech I will and have reported though.
It has actually been a much better place here in that respect since one particular poster was banned permanently a few months back. Good riddance.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
https://www.yahoo.com/news/star-citizen-339-million-game-195653511.html
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Basically no conventions and no in person fund raising. But I am sur it will be a banner year for them in germs of mney beong rked in.
In a year with the economic wasteland of 2020 they still seem to be able to seperate people from their money pretty easily.
Unlikely or else all the posters who constantly troll spam every Star Citizen threads as other crowdfunded games for that matter, insulting games and it's backers would be banned for the same "crimes" lol Peachy, saying that a post stating that a "claim is idiotic" is worthy of a ban when you've mocked backers while making odes to suicide.
Now, for the record I know you were just taking the piss, even if in a bad taste, like many others do, we backers or supporters of crowdfunded games know these are easy targets, and specially Star Citizen due to it's history.
But ignorant remarks after ignorant remarks like "scam citizen" or many other low effort posts got old back in 2015 and, following that logic, should be bannable offenses to then:
- Game Attacks
- Unsubstantiated comments about specific or general games will be penalized in nearly the same way attacks against people will. The exception is that you can say mean things about games provided you back it up with reasons.
The thing is if rules are followed by the book for everyone no discussion survive unsacthed due to the jaded and bitter nature of a lot of posters along with the general lack will to discuss based on actual factual knowledge and good faith.Example: "Game X sucks." is not a legitimate comment. "Game X sucks, because..." is acceptable.
Anyway, Happy New Year Folks, I'd cliche my way out saying it can't get worst than 2020 but I'm not sure anymore.