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Amazon Cancels Lord of the Rings MMO

KumaponKumapon Member EpicPosts: 1,605
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Looks like Amazon is at it again. This time another cancellation. According to the article it was a dispute between Amazon and Tencent. To bad I was looking forward to the game. 


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-17/amazon-cancels-lord-of-the-rings-game-announced-two-years-ago
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    Not surprised...nothing has been shown on this for a while now.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Too bad, I was looking forward to at least finding out more about it.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Torval said:
    Crazy, because they're spending nearly half a billion dollars on the series.
    Odd though it may seem it was Leyou who worked out the deal with Middle Earth Enterprises and Amazon joined in to co-develop and publish a year after that.

    So technically I guess they can't do it without Leyou.
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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,644
    damn..
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    edited April 2021
    Eh not surprised, when I heard Tencent bought Leyou I was like eh damn.....


    .....everything was fine until Tencent bought Leyou and remember Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP.

    The worse news overall for the lotr fans that wanted a new mmo like me is that it seems Leyou seems to hold the rights to this game IP which means Tencent does now.........
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    edited April 2021
    Wonder if Tencent 93% 100% stake on Riot (which is developing their MMO based on League of Legends universe) has something to do with this...
    Post edited by Babuinix on
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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    All that money and resources and they keep coming up with stillborn games.  That's why you can't buy into it when people say games like Star Citizen have too much money to fail.
    Gdemami
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    Another one bites the dust. The old game is there so we can still play LotRO.
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  • Sal1Sal1 Member UncommonPosts: 430
    edited April 2021
    Asm0deus said:
    Eh not surprised, when I heard Tencent bought Leyou I was like eh damn.....


    .....everything was fine until Tencent bought Leyou and remember Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP.

    The worse news overall for the lotr fans that wanted a new mmo like me is that it seems Leyou seems to hold the rights to this game IP which means Tencent does now.........


  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    All that money and resources and they keep coming up with stillborn games.  That's why you can't buy into it when people say games like Star Citizen have too much money to fail.
    The games division is cheap change for a 1.7$ trillion dollar company like Amazon. I don't think money is the issue here. Most likely disagreements with the higher ups.

    This wasn't a original product of Amazon Games division though, it was done by Athlon games which belonged to a Chinese subsidiary which was bought by Tencent. They had agreed a partnership with Amazon Games that, by the looks of it felt apart.

    Games get cancelled all the time and partnerships break too, the only odd thing is the public getting to know about it.


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  • Sal1Sal1 Member UncommonPosts: 430
    Asm0deus said:
    Eh not surprised, when I heard Tencent bought Leyou I was like eh damn.....


    .....everything was fine until Tencent bought Leyou and remember Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP.

    The worse news overall for the lotr fans that wanted a new mmo like me is that it seems Leyou seems to hold the rights to this game IP which means Tencent does now.........
    "Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP." For what? What do you mean by this? 

    I want more The Lord of the Rings games. Believe you me. I absolutely love Tolkien. My first books that just amazed me and thrilled me were by him.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    Sal1 said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Eh not surprised, when I heard Tencent bought Leyou I was like eh damn.....
    .....everything was fine until Tencent bought Leyou and remember Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP.

    The worse news overall for the lotr fans that wanted a new mmo like me is that it seems Leyou seems to hold the rights to this game IP which means Tencent does now.........
    Tecent has a lot of "power" over many companies:


    Being Chinese it's said to be heavily influenced by Chinese laws that bring censoring issues that can modify/hinder a game's design/story.
    > https://www.techinasia.com/china-doesnt-censor-skeletons-the-truth-about-game-censorship-in-the-middle-kingdom

    Asm0deus
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    How do you screw up Lord of the Rings?
    Sal1Gdemami
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited April 2021
    Babuinix said:
    Sal1 said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Eh not surprised, when I heard Tencent bought Leyou I was like eh damn.....
    .....everything was fine until Tencent bought Leyou and remember Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP.

    The worse news overall for the lotr fans that wanted a new mmo like me is that it seems Leyou seems to hold the rights to this game IP which means Tencent does now.........
    Tecent has a lot of "power" over many companies:


    Being Chinese it's said to be heavily influenced by Chinese laws that bring censoring issues that can modify/hinder a game's design/story.
    > https://www.techinasia.com/china-doesnt-censor-skeletons-the-truth-about-game-censorship-in-the-middle-kingdom

    Perhaps you should have a closer look at the shady side of the finance world?

    Realize Tencent is primarily owned by a South African firm called Naspers, 31% by latest reports.

    https://www.bjornjeffery.com/2020/02/19/the-double-edged-sword-of-success-understanding-naspers-and-their-tencent-investment/

    Perhaps "Hydra" is a real thing after all?

    Someone please pass the Krugerrands.

     :# 






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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Torval said:
    Theocritus said:
    How do you screw up Lord of the Rings?

    Ask Turbine? hahaha j/k :lol:

    Hahaha maybe I should have rephrased that: "How do you screw up Lord of the Rings worse than Turbine?"
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Theocritus said:
    How do you screw up Lord of the Rings?

    Simple, allow the rumor that Smedley is leading the effort.  True or False, that alone will doom any project.



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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited April 2021
    Mendel said:
    How do you screw up Lord of the Rings?

    Simple, allow the rumor that Smedley is leading the effort.  True or False, that alone will doom any project.



    He wasn't though. This was AGS Seattle and Smeagol is the head of AGS San Diego.

    I actually have no clue WTF his studio is working on, if anything.
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  • DeadGenreDeadGenre Newbie CommonPosts: 7
    I'm not really a fan of traditional MMOs anymore, but was kinda curious about what this game would have been like.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    DeadGenre said:
    I'm not really a fan of traditional MMOs anymore, but was kinda curious about what this game would have been like.
    Secret EQ Prelude MMORPG maybe?

    Nevermind, forget I said anything.

     B) 

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  • RungarRungar Member RarePosts: 1,132
    Kyleran said:
    Babuinix said:
    Sal1 said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Eh not surprised, when I heard Tencent bought Leyou I was like eh damn.....
    .....everything was fine until Tencent bought Leyou and remember Tencent is largely beholden to the CCP.

    The worse news overall for the lotr fans that wanted a new mmo like me is that it seems Leyou seems to hold the rights to this game IP which means Tencent does now.........
    Tecent has a lot of "power" over many companies:


    Being Chinese it's said to be heavily influenced by Chinese laws that bring censoring issues that can modify/hinder a game's design/story.
    > https://www.techinasia.com/china-doesnt-censor-skeletons-the-truth-about-game-censorship-in-the-middle-kingdom

    Perhaps you should have a closer look at the shady side of the finance world?

    Realize Tencent is primarily owned by a South African firm called Naspers, 31% by latest reports.

    https://www.bjornjeffery.com/2020/02/19/the-double-edged-sword-of-success-understanding-naspers-and-their-tencent-investment/

    Perhaps "Hydra" is a real thing after all?

    Someone please pass the Krugerrands.

     :# 






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  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864
    Theocritus said:
    How do you screw up Lord of the Rings?

    One does not just simply succeed at Lord of the Rings!
    KyleranScot
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    Crazy, because they're spending nearly half a billion dollars on the series.
    Odd though it may seem it was Leyou who worked out the deal with Middle Earth Enterprises and Amazon joined in to co-develop and publish a year after that.

    So technically I guess they can't do it without Leyou.

    No but Leyou and Tencent can do it without Amazon .. Thats what is happening here
    BabuinixKyleran
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    Scorchien said:
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    Crazy, because they're spending nearly half a billion dollars on the series.
    Odd though it may seem it was Leyou who worked out the deal with Middle Earth Enterprises and Amazon joined in to co-develop and publish a year after that.

    So technically I guess they can't do it without Leyou.

    No but Leyou and Tencent can do it without Amazon .. Thats what is happening here
    Well that depends on who got the license in the first place.  My guess is Amazon has the license and just wanted to subcontract Leyou.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited April 2021
    Scorchien said:
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    Crazy, because they're spending nearly half a billion dollars on the series.
    Odd though it may seem it was Leyou who worked out the deal with Middle Earth Enterprises and Amazon joined in to co-develop and publish a year after that.

    So technically I guess they can't do it without Leyou.

    No but Leyou and Tencent can do it without Amazon .. Thats what is happening here
    Well that depends on who got the license in the first place.  My guess is Amazon has the license and just wanted to subcontract Leyou.
    Nope.

    https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/04/the-lord-of-the-rings-universe-is-getting-a-free-to-play-online-game-from-athlon-games/

    Ahlon is a US-based Leyou subsidiary. They have the license.

    http://www.athlongames.com/about/

    YashaX
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    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Iselin said:
    Scorchien said:
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    Crazy, because they're spending nearly half a billion dollars on the series.
    Odd though it may seem it was Leyou who worked out the deal with Middle Earth Enterprises and Amazon joined in to co-develop and publish a year after that.

    So technically I guess they can't do it without Leyou.

    No but Leyou and Tencent can do it without Amazon .. Thats what is happening here
    Well that depends on who got the license in the first place.  My guess is Amazon has the license and just wanted to subcontract Leyou.
    Nope.

    https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/04/the-lord-of-the-rings-universe-is-getting-a-free-to-play-online-game-from-athlon-games/

    Ahlon is a US-based Leyou subsidiary. They have the license.

    http://www.athlongames.com/about/

    More like ‘Lord of the Rings MMO Cancels Amazon’ then.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

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