I'm going to include myself in this, but why are we really excited for New World?
I don't really get excited these days, and I try not to follow too far in advance anymore. The bar is lower, when I see something, I ask myself if I can get a month or two out of it, but when I got into the genre, I'd play games for years at a time, and the bar seemed much higher.
So we've got Amazon, a game that changed it's focus mid stream from PvP to PvE, that still doesn't quite seem like it knows what it's doing, where it's going, or even what it is. An awful lot of people tried it during testing, and there are still ton's of question, and I'm not seeing anyone suggest that it's "just awesome". At this point people are still talking concepts, and it's due to release in just over 90 days?
I think that's a real indicator how low people's expectations have fallen (my own included, because I'm interested enough to think maybe I could get a month or so out of something new, despite my not loving, or hating the last big test.) For those of us who enjoy the genre, who have been enjoying it for years, I suspect it'll take some real innovation, something completely new, to really generate excitement.
Hell, for whatever Star Citizen is or isn't, it generates emotion. I don't see a whole lot of emotion for anything else at this point. Mediocre is the new norm.
"Excited" is a strong word but I'm looking forward to playing New World. I enjoyed the preview weekend last year, and believe the changes are in line with what I would like to see. A ton of changes have happened for the better imo and like the added PvE content. It's a good value of entertainment for a BTP title.
The new world beta was hot garbage. The way you got gear, could leach xp from a Max level group without being in thr group just by tagging a mob thry are killing, and more. It didn't feel right is all I can say. It looked beautiful though. The "endgame" in thr beta was also really lame and openworld. Everything was tank and spank.
I’m literally feeling the same way as you. Excited for something new as much as a new mmorpg. Ashes of Creation and a great looking Phantsy Star are on the top of my list. Some one mentioned that mmorpg’s should not have “endgame”. I have to say I agree strongly! Look, today everyone rushes through the game “main story/quest lines skipping dialogue hamming the left mouse button just to reach “endgame”!!! I never understand that, let me not enjoy the story, lore and for love of all goodness I shall NEVER EVER (Y2J) actual enjoy the journey!!! Instead I can’t wait to rush to “endgame” so I can play the same freakin 5 dungeons over and over and over and over again. Well no worries because I finished the vanilla content I’ll be ready for the RAID coming in 3 months.
I just played ELYON CBT1 vor several hours...ya ist basically Tera graphics and gameplay with BDO grind progress plus RvR and some interesting stuff. When theres nothing better on the MMO list this year , maybe I buy it...but tbh its not a game I usually would buy.
New Worlds last year status did not impress me, but I´ d buy and play it a little bit rather than Elyon.
But ..lets be honest. I am waiting for Ashes of Creation. Imho it´s the only game with a straight forward and transparent development which contains all the stuff, that I love and is a "western MMO".
After years of progressing development in the genre I think most MMORPG players would rather play an "World od Warcraft" Themepark Game like they where in the beginning and in the zenith of MMORPG. I would. More interaction with others, less Gearscore and numbers but hard as f***
"Will players be excited to keep playing Elyon (the MMORPG formerly known as Ascent: Infinite Realm) when more tests come and eventually the full launch?"
This used to always be a minor problem for beta players. But now we have a MMO genre that is stretching out the time before launch more and more, while offering little bits of play here and there. This is followed by a year/years of an EA offering a sub-standard version of the MMO by definition because they have not launched. So it seems obvious to me that this problem is now blooming into a major one.
I am not interested in any of those coming out. I am interested in swg restoration 3 coming out the 28th though. Forced grouping, profession that are forced to work together to make a living economy of interconnected people. Complex systems you can fail at, and only 2 characters per account. Modern mmos get it all wrong, and just create games around cash shops to make them huge profit. Which I for one don't appreciate, I like my games built around the crafting system and economy of the game. I also like complex choice for making my character, even if some of them end up in failure.
I would say the only other game I like is dungeons and dragons online hard core server, but that has so many issues with lag it ends up killing the game for me. Thats not getting into the horrid cash shop ddo has.
I get it though mindless games where you can never lose, and the slight inconvenience of losing can be over come by cash shop items is way more profit filled for the mindless corporations that produce them.
Which is why I stay away from corporation video games, they are all shallow garbage just like star wars from Disney.
But ..lets be honest. I am waiting for Ashes of Creation. Imho it´s the only game with a straight forward and transparent development which contains all the stuff, that I love and is a "western MMO".
If you are really being honest Ashes is probably the only game of the three mentioned you haven't played yet.
The as game imagined in people's heads is almost always better than those which actually exist in reality.
Let's see how you feel after having a chance to get your hands on Ashes when it's in a beta state more akin to the other two.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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The last MMO I got excited for was when ArcheAge announced it was coming to NA. By the time Alpha and Beta finished I vowed 2 things - 1, never play another Korean MMO, and 2, never ever spend that kind of money to play a game that isn't released yet, again. There's only been 1 MMO (2, if you count Star Citizen) I've had an interest in really checking out since then - Ashes of Creation. I'm not hyped for it, haven't given them any money, and only somewhat pay attention to it's progress.
I actually gave up MMOs last year, after 16 years of strictly playing them over other non-mmo titles. I haven't regretted it.
Not following the MMO releases, so the only one I'm curios about that has a release date is New World. Other than that, I'm really interested in Ashes of Creation, Zenith: The Last City and probably Star Citizen. Not sure when they will release though?
Not following the MMO releases, so the only one I'm curios about that has a release date is New World. Other than that, I'm really interested in Ashes of Creation, Zenith: The Last City and probably Star Citizen. Not sure when they will release though?
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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A large problem is ego from generation snowflake, instead of taking things which work and were loved then making them better they are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel based on what they personally think is cool and what they THINK they would personally want to see in a MMO.
We are seeing more outlandish and stupid combat systems in games where its somehow getting more complex and oversimplified at the same time because instead of focusing on the traditional MMO market every developer wants to make cross platform games which invariably do everything worse, you get twitch combat and minimal abilities which will not appeal to a PC mmo player.
I agree, but it also goes beyond that. My big draw is chardev and rpg systems and mechanics. I love wow up to WotLK, and it doesn't appeal to me at all after that. I liked SWtOR up until the revamped chardev system, then not at all. EQ2 vanilla just didn't have any chardev, now it has a ton. I'll never be able to get into the crafting games people call survival games, regardless of the rpg systems, etc.
For me it isn't just the type of combat and amount of abilities, I need a meaty chardev and rpg systems and mechanics.
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I don't really get excited these days, and I try not to follow too far in advance anymore. The bar is lower, when I see something, I ask myself if I can get a month or two out of it, but when I got into the genre, I'd play games for years at a time, and the bar seemed much higher.
So we've got Amazon, a game that changed it's focus mid stream from PvP to PvE, that still doesn't quite seem like it knows what it's doing, where it's going, or even what it is. An awful lot of people tried it during testing, and there are still ton's of question, and I'm not seeing anyone suggest that it's "just awesome". At this point people are still talking concepts, and it's due to release in just over 90 days?
I think that's a real indicator how low people's expectations have fallen (my own included, because I'm interested enough to think maybe I could get a month or so out of something new, despite my not loving, or hating the last big test.) For those of us who enjoy the genre, who have been enjoying it for years, I suspect it'll take some real innovation, something completely new, to really generate excitement.
Hell, for whatever Star Citizen is or isn't, it generates emotion. I don't see a whole lot of emotion for anything else at this point. Mediocre is the new norm.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
New Worlds last year status did not impress me, but I´ d buy and play it a little bit rather than Elyon.
But ..lets be honest. I am waiting for Ashes of Creation. Imho it´s the only game with a straight forward and transparent development which contains all the stuff, that I love and is a "western MMO".
After years of progressing development in the genre I think most MMORPG players would rather play an "World od Warcraft" Themepark Game like they where in the beginning and in the zenith of MMORPG. I would. More interaction with others, less Gearscore and numbers but hard as f***
This used to always be a minor problem for beta players. But now we have a MMO genre that is stretching out the time before launch more and more, while offering little bits of play here and there. This is followed by a year/years of an EA offering a sub-standard version of the MMO by definition because they have not launched. So it seems obvious to me that this problem is now blooming into a major one.
I would say the only other game I like is dungeons and dragons online hard core server, but that has so many issues with lag it ends up killing the game for me. Thats not getting into the horrid cash shop ddo has.
I get it though mindless games where you can never lose, and the slight inconvenience of losing can be over come by cash shop items is way more profit filled for the mindless corporations that produce them.
Which is why I stay away from corporation video games, they are all shallow garbage just like star wars from Disney.
The as game imagined in people's heads is almost always better than those which actually exist in reality.
Let's see how you feel after having a chance to get your hands on Ashes when it's in a beta state more akin to the other two.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I actually gave up MMOs last year, after 16 years of strictly playing them over other non-mmo titles. I haven't regretted it.
New World is looking meh->Armor,Weapons,Charactereditor.
For 2021 i will play PSO2 NG,maybe Lost Arc and SOLO.
We need more SciFi MMOs,Mass Effect,SW,ST or other Universe.
Fantasy is out.
2025.
See above.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I agree, but it also goes beyond that. My big draw is chardev and rpg systems and mechanics. I love wow up to WotLK, and it doesn't appeal to me at all after that. I liked SWtOR up until the revamped chardev system, then not at all. EQ2 vanilla just didn't have any chardev, now it has a ton. I'll never be able to get into the crafting games people call survival games, regardless of the rpg systems, etc.
For me it isn't just the type of combat and amount of abilities, I need a meaty chardev and rpg systems and mechanics.
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