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LOTRO Monetization 'will definitely not change significantly before Gundabad', But Change Is Coming

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    At minimum, LotRO's monetization model has the problem of being confusing.  And there's really no good justification for that.

    When I looked into the game earlier this year, it looked like it was tremendously expensive, and nickel and diming players for every little thing.  Now that I've played it a little, it looks like if I pay for the subscription ($30 per 3 months), I'll never have to pay for anything else.  Making players believe that you're going to charge them massively more than you'll actually charge them for is definitely a bad thing.
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  • LithuanianLithuanian Member UncommonPosts: 558
    Lotro could sell things that...well...are not in the store, yet makes player sign in or uninstall.

    *Game moderation, especially versus gold-scammers. Not nice to see chat flooded "Cheap glod..." and no moderator takes any action (because no moderators online);
    *Game stability. Try to ride your warsteed in Minas Tirith and experience lag every few seconds. Try to ride warsteed in Pelennor fields and experience lag every few seconds;
    *Really legendary madness with Legendary items. They are not legendary, because you loott them from most humanoids and end up trashing them. Reforge each ten levels. For imbued LI - months of grind for Anfalas scrolls. I mean - guys, make Legendary weapon really legendary. One that you receive and keep, that grows with you without extra grind with legacies *you* choose;
    *Remove trashboxes - OR make keys earnable in game.
    These are basic things that should be changed.
    Now, up to store. Expansions should be free for VIPs. Quest pack and expansion prices should be reduced. Whoever asked 180$ for Mordor just smoke too much weed. Some f2p restrictions should be removed.
    Some things could be added, like housing. Example: standard house costs nothing, but your nice-looking Rohan style is 5$ only.
    Hardest thing: make your VIP matter. More and more privileges for VIPs, do ask your community, dear SSG, for ideas. From an option to have multiple houses to, say, no item wear or option to turn off xp without famous Tortoise stone.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Kyleran said:
    Wizardry said:
    Reading between the lines....

    We will hold off until we make the sales then BAM we will hit you hard because we already got you invested.They will try some lame play with words to try and fool or con people into their stupid gimmicks.

    Old content is not any concern because old vets already have it.The reason you offer old content for free is to entice NEW players.
    It is simple economics,old content AND your new content has NO VALUE if you can't get the NEW player to buy in.

    I'm hoping this was not a perma ban...


    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Not really, Bill's tired of having to beat back deragatory comments unrelated to gaming so best to not include trigger phrases such as SJW, Karens, snowflakes etc or slag on a group of people such as working mothers for no good purpose.

    Stick to gaming and all should be good
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Kyleran said:
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Not really, Bill's tired of having to beat back deragatory comments unrelated to gaming so best to not include trigger phrases such as SJW, Karens, snowflakes etc or slag on a group of people such as working mothers for no good purpose.

    Stick to gaming and all should be good
    If this was reddit you would have been banned for simply using those words... context be damned.
    Kyleran
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Nyctelios said:
    Quizzical said:
    At minimum, LotRO's monetization model has the problem of being confusing.  And there's really no good justification for that.

    When I looked into the game earlier this year, it looked like it was tremendously expensive, and nickel and diming players for every little thing.  Now that I've played it a little, it looks like if I pay for the subscription ($30 per 3 months), I'll never have to pay for anything else.  Making players believe that you're going to charge them massively more than you'll actually charge them for is definitely a bad thing.
    You don't get everything with the subscription. There is an *
    It's not that everything comes free with the subscription.  Rather, between the monthly stipend and points earned from deeds, I'll be able to get everything else I want without directly paying for anything else other than the subscription.
    Ungood[Deleted User]
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Kyleran said:
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Not really, Bill's tired of having to beat back deragatory comments unrelated to gaming so best to not include trigger phrases such as SJW, Karens, snowflakes etc or slag on a group of people such as working mothers for no good purpose.

    Stick to gaming and all should be good
    The problem is that they've been posting political junk on their front page while locking comments, and then people criticize it elsewhere and get banned for it.  If they don't want a vigorous discussion of some topics on their site, that's fine, but they should stop prominently posting them on their front page.
    Ungood[Deleted User]ScotKidRisk
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Quizzical said:
    Kyleran said:
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Not really, Bill's tired of having to beat back deragatory comments unrelated to gaming so best to not include trigger phrases such as SJW, Karens, snowflakes etc or slag on a group of people such as working mothers for no good purpose.

    Stick to gaming and all should be good
    The problem is that they've been posting political junk on their front page while locking comments, and then people criticize it elsewhere and get banned for it.  If they don't want a vigorous discussion of some topics on their site, that's fine, but they should stop prominently posting them on their front page.
    yah.. that makes sense.. if you don't want to talk about it.. don't talk about it.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited August 2021
    Quizzical said:
    Kyleran said:
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Not really, Bill's tired of having to beat back deragatory comments unrelated to gaming so best to not include trigger phrases such as SJW, Karens, snowflakes etc or slag on a group of people such as working mothers for no good purpose.

    Stick to gaming and all should be good
    The problem is that they've been posting political junk on their front page while locking comments, and then people criticize it elsewhere and get banned for it.  If they don't want a vigorous discussion of some topics on their site, that's fine, but they should stop prominently posting them on their front page.
    Simplistic and inaccurate description of the problem.

    They have been posting articles about the state of California investigating the Blizzard workplace, some workers at Blizzard making statements about that and some higher-ups at Blizzard "resigning" (although most likely resigning as a choice given to avoid the embarrassment of being fired.)

    There is nothing inherently political about those articles except in the minds of some here who have a kneejerk reaction and politicize absolutely everything and do so while slinging the same old tired Twitter cliche abbreviations at the article, at people quoted in the article, at this site, at this site's writers and at anyone who dares be in agreement with the basic human decency and empathy expressed in the articles.

    That's what it's about, not "posting political junk" as you so partisanly put it. 


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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Iselin said:
    Quizzical said:
    The problem is that they've been posting political junk on their front page while locking comments, and then people criticize it elsewhere and get banned for it.  If they don't want a vigorous discussion of some topics on their site, that's fine, but they should stop prominently posting them on their front page.
    Simplistic and inaccurate description of the problem.

    They have been posting articles about the state of California investigating the Blizzard workplace, some workers at Blizzard making statements about that and some higher-ups at Blizzard "resigning" (although most likely resigning as a choice given to avoid the embarrassment of being fired.)

    There is nothing inherently political about those articles except in the minds of some here who have a kneejerk reaction and politicize absolutely everything and do so while slinging the same old tired Twitter cliche abbreviations at the article, at people quoted in the article, at this site, at this site's writers and at anyone who dares be in agreement with the basic human decency and empathy expressed in the articles.

    That's what it's about, not "posting political junk" as you so partisanly put it. 
    Right.  And that explains why they literally ran a pro-unionization editorial on their homepage.  That's almost purely political, with only the tangential link to gaming that it was written by someone who works in the gaming industry.

    Some of the garbage that they've been running are literally more incendiary than the things that they're banning forum posters for.  That's basically baiting people to try to get people to say something that justifies banning them.  That's a horrible way to manage a community.

    Trying to defend it as "but we're just quoting someone else" is cynical and dishonest.  Of course you can find plenty of people that you agree with, and plenty that you disagree with.  So you quote the ones you agree with and ignore the ones you disagree with as a way to post your opinion while pretending that you're not doing exactly that, and then ban people for posting contrary opinions that are no more inflammatory than the ones you've quoted approvingly.  That's an extremely toxic way to manage a community that isn't explicitly political.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Yeah it was weird that a long time poster felt the need to assume all of the allegations were just women trying to advance in their positions.  Like how tone deaf could they be?
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Iselin said:
    Quizzical said:
    Kyleran said:
    Nyctelios said:
    tzervo said:
    Ungood said:
    Wow.. Umm that's a shock. Wonder why.
    More High Profile Developers Out At Activision Blizzard Including Diablo 4 Director, Jesse McCree | - Page 2 — MMORPG.com Forums

    See quoted snips in the thread, the original post was deleted.
    That's weird
    Not really, Bill's tired of having to beat back deragatory comments unrelated to gaming so best to not include trigger phrases such as SJW, Karens, snowflakes etc or slag on a group of people such as working mothers for no good purpose.

    Stick to gaming and all should be good
    The problem is that they've been posting political junk on their front page while locking comments, and then people criticize it elsewhere and get banned for it.  If they don't want a vigorous discussion of some topics on their site, that's fine, but they should stop prominently posting them on their front page.
    Simplistic and inaccurate description of the problem.

    They have been posting articles about the state of California investigating the Blizzard workplace, some workers at Blizzard making statements about that and some higher-ups at Blizzard "resigning" (although most likely resigning as a choice given to avoid the embarrassment of being fired.)

    There is nothing inherently political about those articles except in the minds of some here who have a kneejerk reaction and politicize absolutely everything and do so while slinging the same old tired Twitter cliche abbreviations at the article, at people quoted in the article, at this site, at this site's writers and at anyone who dares be in agreement with the basic human decency and empathy expressed in the articles.

    That's what it's about, not "posting political junk" as you so partisanly put it. 


    Dude.. anything that happens in California is political.. just the way that state works.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Guys, this direction you are taking is exactly what gets threads locked and people banned. Just an observation.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited August 2021
    It has become fashionable to take a political position while saying it is not a political position. You put forward your politics while saying this is nothing to do with politics, this is about being human, having a heart and so on.

    Here we are told the articles about Blizzard were only about "basic human decency and empathy". Indeed I often find the same people who used to say 'everything is political' in other words the most politically orientated people I hear from are now the ones saying 'nothing we say is political', its just about having a heart and so on, funny that.

    On balance I don't see the MMORPG.com items as political but I think its perfectly reasonable to question if they are. Labelling and haranguing those who question that should have no place here, likewise those who support the articles should be free to tell us why they do without being told they are a SJW etc.

    Having recently read around the issue more, I found it highly probable that numerous women there had not been treat with the decency we would expect anyone in work to be treated. It still surprises me but there comes a point when you have to think 'this smells really bad'. Still, I look toward the court case to get to the bottom of this, not the "court of the media" which I might add we are calling to order right now. I will do what I have done elsewhere, this is a political post, so no more on this thread.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    I’ll never understand what’s so tough about keeping your hands to yourself and treating people the way you like to be treated yourself.

    Nothing political in those words.
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Personally I always felt the idea of selling content was the most honest means of transaction.

    If you like the game, you simply buy more of it to play, and thus have more game to enjoy, and everyone is happy.

    No need to throw out loot boxes, or other schemes to try and bait whales, and don't give out any free rides either. Just keep making content, and players keep buying it, and the game keeps growing.

    Everyone playing the paid content, should have paid to be there, simple as that. Does it split the player base? Not that I have seen with DDO.

    IMHO Seems like the ideal perfect development and finance plan for an MMO. 

    Not sure what SSG has planned for LOTRO, but AFIK, they have not tested this idea with DDO, so, I really have no idea what they have planned.

    Smart money says, it pisses a lot of people off tho.
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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Ungood said:
    Personally I always felt the idea of selling content was the most honest means of transaction.

    If you like the game, you simply buy more of it to play, and thus have more game to enjoy, and everyone is happy.

    No need to throw out loot boxes, or other schemes to try and bait whales, and don't give out any free rides either. Just keep making content, and players keep buying it, and the game keeps growing.

    Everyone playing the paid content, should have paid to be there, simple as that. Does it split the player base? Not that I have seen with DDO.

    IMHO Seems like the ideal perfect development and finance plan for an MMO. 

    Not sure what SSG has planned for LOTRO, but AFIK, they have not tested this idea with DDO, so, I really have no idea what they have planned.

    Smart money says, it pisses a lot of people off tho.

    I remember playing Wizard 101....I would get a quest, go to the location, then try to enter and it would say "You have to pay for this content in order to d othis quest"...TO me that is the worst way to pay for a game. I'd rather buy lootboxes or gamble on lotto tickets than have to pay to do quests.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ungood said:
    Personally I always felt the idea of selling content was the most honest means of transaction.

    If you like the game, you simply buy more of it to play, and thus have more game to enjoy, and everyone is happy.

    No need to throw out loot boxes, or other schemes to try and bait whales, and don't give out any free rides either. Just keep making content, and players keep buying it, and the game keeps growing.

    Everyone playing the paid content, should have paid to be there, simple as that. Does it split the player base? Not that I have seen with DDO.

    IMHO Seems like the ideal perfect development and finance plan for an MMO. 

    Not sure what SSG has planned for LOTRO, but AFIK, they have not tested this idea with DDO, so, I really have no idea what they have planned.

    Smart money says, it pisses a lot of people off tho.

    I remember playing Wizard 101....I would get a quest, go to the location, then try to enter and it would say "You have to pay for this content in order to d othis quest"...TO me that is the worst way to pay for a game. I'd rather buy lootboxes or gamble on lotto tickets than have to pay to do quests.
    Do you mean..

    YOU would rather HAVE to buy loot boxes to support the game, as opposed to just buying a quest pack 

    or do you mean..

    You would rather there be loot boxes in the store that OTHER people can opt buy to support the game, while YOU get to do everything for FREE.

    Because, see, I would respect that first stance, even if I would never believe it to be true, nor would I want to play a game with a system like that, because needing to do something like Buy Loot boxes, which I wager to get some rare item like a Continue Coin, or something equally asininely annoying, to keep playing a game, strikes me as something that would drive away far, far, more people away from the game, then simply selling them a quest pack, that they only need to buy once.

    The other stand I have zero respect for.

    I do agree that giving you a quest you can't do is kinda shady, which again, mad respect to DDO, where you cannot get a quest you do not own, so there is no illusion that you could do it, no one will hand you a quest that you then need to pay to enter, the quest givers will all be like "Piss off Peon, I need a real hero" or some such, they even have the nice quest markers crossed out with a red mark, just so you know.. you can't do that quest, and don't bother talking to them.

    For me, if I had a choice between paying for a quest pack how DDO does it, or buying a loot box.. Quest pack wins, hands down, every time.


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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Nyctelios said:
    Ungood said:
    Ungood said:
    Personally I always felt the idea of selling content was the most honest means of transaction.

    If you like the game, you simply buy more of it to play, and thus have more game to enjoy, and everyone is happy.

    No need to throw out loot boxes, or other schemes to try and bait whales, and don't give out any free rides either. Just keep making content, and players keep buying it, and the game keeps growing.

    Everyone playing the paid content, should have paid to be there, simple as that. Does it split the player base? Not that I have seen with DDO.

    IMHO Seems like the ideal perfect development and finance plan for an MMO. 

    Not sure what SSG has planned for LOTRO, but AFIK, they have not tested this idea with DDO, so, I really have no idea what they have planned.

    Smart money says, it pisses a lot of people off tho.

    I remember playing Wizard 101....I would get a quest, go to the location, then try to enter and it would say "You have to pay for this content in order to d othis quest"...TO me that is the worst way to pay for a game. I'd rather buy lootboxes or gamble on lotto tickets than have to pay to do quests.
    Do you mean..

    YOU would rather HAVE to buy loot boxes to support the game, as opposed to just buying a quest pack 

    or do you mean..

    You would rather there be loot boxes in the store that OTHER people can opt buy to support the game, while YOU get to do everything for FREE.

    Because, see, I would respect that first stance, even if I would never believe it to be true, nor would I want to play a game with a system like that, because needing to do something like Buy Loot boxes, which I wager to get some rare item like a Continue Coin, or something equally asininely annoying, to keep playing a game, strikes me as something that would drive away far, far, more people away from the game, then simply selling them a quest pack, that they only need to buy once.

    The other stand I have zero respect for.

    I do agree that giving you a quest you can't do is kinda shady, which again, mad respect to DDO, where you cannot get a quest you do not own, so there is no illusion that you could do it, no one will hand you a quest that you then need to pay to enter, the quest givers will all be like "Piss off Peon, I need a real hero" or some such, they even have the nice quest markers crossed out with a red mark, just so you know.. you can't do that quest, and don't bother talking to them.

    For me, if I had a choice between paying for a quest pack how DDO does it, or buying a loot box.. Quest pack wins, hands down, every time.


    Thats not quite the issue:

    I want to give them money and buy the packs, but they are hidden inside the game as a "surprise! There is more!" instead of being on their site.

    Like, people are trying to pay for stuff and they are complicating it for some reason. And the result is not that people are scammed into spending more in the game, like other titles tend  to do, the result is people not engaging with the game store.
    They have it in the In-game store, so you do not need to leave the game to buy it, and that is making it confusing?

    What game does that, where you need to leave the game to buy content? I mean, GW2 with their living world, had it set up so you buy the episodes in the in-game store, with in-game tokens, exactly like DDO.

    So what game has it where you have to buy dungeon packs, outside the game? I mean, I get expansions, often because they are sold for real money.. a LOT of real money, and often offer Pre-order, so it's not in the game yet, so I can see why they might want to process that outside of the game.

    I am just not getting the confusion here. You walk up to a Red Marked Quest Giver, they say "Piss off Or Buy the Pack" and have a button in the chat log to open the store and buy the pack, if you so wish, of you can flip them the bird and keep on doing the free content.

    I really.. do not get the problem.


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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    edited August 2021
     it is more that I think it's a slippery slope when they start charging for additional content....It can reach the point of absurdity like it did in Wiz 101...They can take what might have been a simple expansion and split it up into many parts, forcing customers to pay many times for something that should not have been that way.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
     it is more that I think it's a slippery slope when they start charging for additional content....It can reach the point of absurdity like it did in Wiz 101...They can take what might have been a simple expansion and split it up into many parts, forcing customers to pay many times for something that should not have been that way.
    More a slippery slope then loot boxes? Really?

    No doubt you are in the second group, and that means you want others to fund your game experience.. sorry.. I have zero respect for that mindset.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Nyctelios said:
    Ungood said:
    They have it in the In-game store, so you do not need to leave the game to buy it, and that is making it confusing?

    What game does that, where you need to leave the game to buy content? I mean, GW2 with their living world, had it set up so you buy the episodes in the in-game store, with in-game tokens, exactly like DDO.

    So what game has it where you have to buy dungeon packs, outside the game? I mean, I get expansions, often because they are sold for real money.. a LOT of real money, and often offer Pre-order, so it's not in the game yet, so I can see why they might want to process that outside of the game.

    I am just not getting the confusion here. You walk up to a Red Marked Quest Giver, they say "Piss off Or Buy the Pack" and have a button in the chat log to open the store and buy the pack, if you so wish, of you can flip them the bird and keep on doing the free content.

    I really.. do not get the problem.


    What you don't understand?

    I go to the site to buy the game expansions and packs. Half is there, half is not. And they don't tell you that.

    You log in the game and find there is more to buy from what you already bought.

    It's that simple.
    The part where you go to the game site to buy DLC packs.

    I just don't get that, never played a MMO with small DLC's being bought outside the game, so that seems weird to me to even want that.

    Must be a Single Player Game thing, where your first thought is to go to the steam store to buy DLC's.

    Might be why we have a disconnect, but, with how MMO's are set up, I don't get the desire to want to go to the webstore for Small DLC's.
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