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Are you a mini-whale? Sub to a game that you don't play currently

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited November 2021
    AlBQuirky said:
    Iselin said:
    I'm pretty conscious these days though of cancelling my sub right after subbing to stop the inadvertent renewals when I'm not paying attention.

    Right! I'm with you, there :)

    I immediately cancelled both my WoW and EQ (Daybreak Pass) sub with my last go. I've been doing it this way for the past few years. though not always.
    I’m never forgetful with the ones that piss me off ;)

     I cancel those ones immediately. It’s the ones that I have a tough time letting go of :)

    edited for clarity ;)

     I don’t think I have any subs I have to double check ;)
    Post edited by laserit on
    KyleranAlBQuirky

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Ungood said:
    There is no way in hell I would pay a sub if I am not actively playing and enjoying a game.

    I have come to become an advocate for Cash Shop games, as I tend to spend $20 a pay check, roughly 40 a month on a game as I am playing it.

    The second I am unhappy with the game, I walk. I don't have time to play a game I am not enjoying. 

    $40 a month on the game you are playing? Maybe not a mini-whale, but certainly at least a large trout.
    AlBQuirky

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    I keep subs running constantly in over a dozen mmos UO being the longest running for 25 years now .. I jump in and out rotating playtime usually thru 3 at any given time .. 
    olepiAlBQuirky
  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Scorchien said:
    I keep subs running constantly in over a dozen mmos UO being the longest running for 25 years now .. I jump in and out rotating playtime usually thru 3 at any given time .. 

    I feel better now, I'm just like Scorch.

    Wait, is that a good thing?
    ScorchienKyleran[Deleted User]AlBQuirky

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Stizzled said:
    Nope, if I'm not using a service regularly I'll cancel it. That includes streaming services, Amazon Prime and MMOs.

    It takes just as long to renew a subscription as it does to cancel it. I don't see the point in wasting money just to save myself a couple of minutes and a few mouse clicks.
    I usually immediately cancel subs after activation that I get for free or promos when they require you to add a credit card. 

    That way it doesn't auto renew after the promo price or free time is up.

    If the service is good enough I'll resub later, at that point I just have to remember to cancel if I'm not using it.
    [Deleted User]AlBQuirky



  • TalmienTalmien Member UncommonPosts: 190
    I don't usually sub to games, unless it is the only option available. I prefer to buy time cards and use them instead. This way I don't forget and go a few months paying for a subscription I am not using.
    AlBQuirky
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Ungood said:
    There is no way in hell I would pay a sub if I am not actively playing and enjoying a game.

    I have come to become an advocate for Cash Shop games, as I tend to spend $20 a pay check, roughly 40 a month on a game as I am playing it.

    The second I am unhappy with the game, I walk. I don't have time to play a game I am not enjoying. 

    When you are paying an annual subscription, make certain it isn't putting an annual recurring charge on your credit card.  That's about the easiest way to end up paying for a game you're not paying.  You might forget, but the credit card company doesn't.



    AlBQuirky

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Stizzled said:
    Talmien said:
    I don't usually sub to games, unless it is the only option available. I prefer to buy time cards and use them instead. This way I don't forget and go a few months paying for a subscription I am not using.
    Man, I remember buying time cards for WoW and LotRO, I had forgotten those even existed.
    The WOW ones still do :)
    AlBQuirky
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Stizzled said:
    Nope, if I'm not using a service regularly I'll cancel it. That includes streaming services, Amazon Prime and MMOs.

    It takes just as long to renew a subscription as it does to cancel it. I don't see the point in wasting money just to save myself a couple of minutes and a few mouse clicks.
    My brother is brutal, he’s a millionaire and piggybacks off my Netflix ;)

    He refuses to have cable and internet at the same time ;)
    IselinSovrathbcbullyAlBQuirky

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited November 2021
    laserit said:
    Stizzled said:
    Nope, if I'm not using a service regularly I'll cancel it. That includes streaming services, Amazon Prime and MMOs.

    It takes just as long to renew a subscription as it does to cancel it. I don't see the point in wasting money just to save myself a couple of minutes and a few mouse clicks.
    My brother is brutal, he’s a millionaire and piggybacks off my Netflix ;)

    He refuses to have cable and internet at the same time ;)
    Sounds like my ex's parents. They were multimillionaires but bought all their clothes at K-Mart. They ran to the "blue light specials"  :)
    laseritSovrathAlBQuirky
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Iselin said:
    laserit said:
    Stizzled said:
    Nope, if I'm not using a service regularly I'll cancel it. That includes streaming services, Amazon Prime and MMOs.

    It takes just as long to renew a subscription as it does to cancel it. I don't see the point in wasting money just to save myself a couple of minutes and a few mouse clicks.
    My brother is brutal, he’s a millionaire and piggybacks off my Netflix ;)

    He refuses to have cable and internet at the same time ;)
    Sounds like my ex's parents. They were multimillionaires but bought all their clothes at K-Mart. They ran to the "blue light specials"  :)
    Sam? 

    Is that you?
    IselinSovrathAlBQuirky

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Mendel said:
    Ungood said:
    There is no way in hell I would pay a sub if I am not actively playing and enjoying a game.

    I have come to become an advocate for Cash Shop games, as I tend to spend $20 a pay check, roughly 40 a month on a game as I am playing it.

    The second I am unhappy with the game, I walk. I don't have time to play a game I am not enjoying. 

    When you are paying an annual subscription, make certain it isn't putting an annual recurring charge on your credit card.  That's about the easiest way to end up paying for a game you're not paying.  You might forget, but the credit card company doesn't.



    I always turned annual subs off every year in EVE after they were paid so I would never make that mistake.


    AlBQuirky

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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Mendel said:
    Ungood said:
    There is no way in hell I would pay a sub if I am not actively playing and enjoying a game.

    I have come to become an advocate for Cash Shop games, as I tend to spend $20 a pay check, roughly 40 a month on a game as I am playing it.

    The second I am unhappy with the game, I walk. I don't have time to play a game I am not enjoying. 

    When you are paying an annual subscription, make certain it isn't putting an annual recurring charge on your credit card.  That's about the easiest way to end up paying for a game you're not paying.  You might forget, but the credit card company doesn't.



    This is a good point, and I got tagged with that BS, way back in the day with EQ. Now I make sure I cancel my sub (if I bought one) when I quit the game.
    AlBQuirky
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    olepi said:
    Ungood said:
    There is no way in hell I would pay a sub if I am not actively playing and enjoying a game.

    I have come to become an advocate for Cash Shop games, as I tend to spend $20 a pay check, roughly 40 a month on a game as I am playing it.

    The second I am unhappy with the game, I walk. I don't have time to play a game I am not enjoying. 

    $40 a month on the game you are playing? Maybe not a mini-whale, but certainly at least a large trout.
    Chances are, at $40 a month, that would be the upper 30 percentile of paying players, I man not the top 10% or 1%, but.. still, up there.

    Also truth be told, it's a good amount. I mean, it's 20 a paycheck, so not a bank breaker, and in the games I played, I never really wanted for anything.

    The down side is, I am a little bitch about, and I admit that, I'm that shitty asshole gamer, that feels that the company should cater to what I want, if they want me to keep funding their game, as I damn well refuse to fund someone else's enjoyment, I am there for me.. screw anyone else.

    As such, the second I feel a company did me wrong, I'll immediately not pay a cent more, and chances are, at that point, it just becomes a waiting game for me, to see what will finally cause me to quit.

    AlBQuirky
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864
    edited November 2021
    Unpopular opinion (?): I don't like the subscription model. I even prefer the cash shop one (that I don't like very much). For me the best payment model is B2P. I like to jump in/out and back-in. I like also the feeling of ownership (and the false "I am done paying for this game"). The subscription model represent a clear net loss for me.
    This is why back in the days when everybody was playing WoW, I was enjoying mainly GW1.
    This is why I might play New World, when things will get a little bit better.

    That said BDO and his aggressive cash shop made me spend more that I ever spent for a game, probably more that $500.
    KyleranolepiAlBQuirky
  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    eoloe said:

    That said BDO and his aggressive cash shop made me spend more that I ever spent for a game, probably more that $500.

    At $500 you are definitely a mini-whale, or even a giant whale calf.

    I spent $250 on the lifetime sub for LoTRO when it came out. Maybe the best game money I ever spent. Otherwise, I pay the sub for a game and that's it.

    But I do leave several subs going, even if I'm not currently playing the game.
    AlBQuirky

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    olepi said:
    eoloe said:

    That said BDO and his aggressive cash shop made me spend more that I ever spent for a game, probably more that $500.

    At $500 you are definitely a mini-whale, or even a giant whale calf.

    I spent $250 on the lifetime sub for LoTRO when it came out. Maybe the best game money I ever spent. Otherwise, I pay the sub for a game and that's it.

    But I do leave several subs going, even if I'm not currently playing the game.
    That $250 sure seemed like an awful lot of dough for a game at the time.

    But definitely one of the best gaming purchases I ever made, thanks to new owners honouring old purchasers.

    Lotro is a game that kept its word to its lifetime sub purchasers. People use to say the game was going to shutter before you ever received your value.

    I would have no problem putting another $250 into the game, but they have to do something besides making Barbie clothes.

     Imho 
    AlBQuirky

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    laserit said:
    olepi said:
    eoloe said:

    That said BDO and his aggressive cash shop made me spend more that I ever spent for a game, probably more that $500.

    At $500 you are definitely a mini-whale, or even a giant whale calf.

    I spent $250 on the lifetime sub for LoTRO when it came out. Maybe the best game money I ever spent. Otherwise, I pay the sub for a game and that's it.

    But I do leave several subs going, even if I'm not currently playing the game.
    That $250 sure seemed like an awful lot of dough for a game at the time.

    But definitely one of the best gaming purchases I ever made, thanks to new owners honouring old purchasers.

    Lotro is a game that kept its word to its lifetime sub purchasers. People use to say the game was going to shutter before you ever received your value.

    I would have no problem putting another $250 into the game, but they have to do something besides making Barbie clothes.

     Imho 

    I bought NW, played for a few weeks, and then stopped. I'll wait for 6 months to see how it sorts out.

    I went back to LoTRO, and with my new 4K setup and turning off nameplates, I am pleasantly surprised how good it still looks.

    I'm probably going to drop another $100 their way, just to show my appreciation.
    laseritAlBQuirky

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  • dancopdancop Member UncommonPosts: 11
    dancop said:
    Guilty as charged :) I think I keep subscriptions for SWTOR, LOTRO, FFXIV and ESO now. For 2 accounts each, as I usually play with my wife. 

    Thanks for reminding me to cancel at least FFXIV ...
    Really? With the new expansion and all? 
    I have the game since the first, cancelled version. I know today's game looks really good and have a lot of content. I just don't like it. Maybe cause of it's overstylized characters, maybe something else. I'm still giving it a try from time to time and just can't keep playing. 
    AlBQuirky
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    olepi said:
    Sovrath said:
    Can we stop talking about fucking monetization legitimizing it.
    If all people can do is whiteknighting and talking about money, maybe this site should call itself shill.com.
    I don't think you're clear on what monetization means. It's just how the game developers make money. It can be anything from a sub to having advertisements in-game, selling virtual items, or any other way the developers decide to charge for their product.

    This thread isn't even about monetization. It's about a human behavior: do you stay subbed to games even if you aren't playing them.
    Are you for real? Ok this isn't about monetization, its even worse!
    It s about needlessly giving more money to big corporation... and be proud of it?!

    The smell of "A fool and his money are soon parted" going off this thread is insane.

    Take care all and please screw your head back on top of your shoulder. 
    I mean.. not every developer with a sub is backed by a big corporation,  but.... okay. 

    I didn't take this thread as anything more than just a question to the community.  It's not like they were saying "hey make sure you never cancel your sub to a game you aren't playing so you can be a mini- whale and support the devs"

    It's a question like,  have you ever bought more food than you can eat,  or have you ever bought something you didn't use. 

    It happens.  
    KyleranAlBQuirky



  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    AlBQuirky said:
    Can we stop talking about fucking monetization legitimizing it.
    If all people can do is whiteknighting and talking about money, maybe this site should call itself shill.com.

    What about monetization are you "against?"

    Do you believe that developers/publishers should make money for their works? Or not?
    Yes, honestly, without all the spending on psychological manipulation studies to make you spend ever more.

    This fucking thread is stupid.
    I'm out of here, going to delete my account, can't stand this retarded garbage anymore.
    I'll just answer that other dude before and let it sink a bit before I proceed.

    Or you guys can report me, so I delete my account faster. No skin of my back.
    I've been trying to wake people the fuck up for like 10 years now. I'm done.
    Been a while since we had a good old fashioned meltdown around here... those were the days
    Kyleran[Deleted User]AlBQuirky



  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    AlBQuirky said:
    Can we stop talking about fucking monetization legitimizing it.
    If all people can do is whiteknighting and talking about money, maybe this site should call itself shill.com.

    What about monetization are you "against?"

    Do you believe that developers/publishers should make money for their works? Or not?
    Yes, honestly, without all the spending on psychological manipulation studies to make you spend ever more.

    This fucking thread is stupid.
    I'm out of here, going to delete my account, can't stand this retarded garbage anymore.
    I'll just answer that other dude before and let it sink a bit before I proceed.

    Or you guys can report me, so I delete my account faster. No skin of my back.
    I've been trying to wake people the fuck up for like 10 years now. I'm done.
    Been a while since we had a good old fashioned meltdown around here... those were the days
    Were? Don't you mean these "are" the days?

    Seems like melt downs are happening all the time now, not sure why everyone is taking all of these discussions so personally.


    maskedweaselAlBQuirky

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    laserit said:
    Stizzled said:
    Nope, if I'm not using a service regularly I'll cancel it. That includes streaming services, Amazon Prime and MMOs.

    It takes just as long to renew a subscription as it does to cancel it. I don't see the point in wasting money just to save myself a couple of minutes and a few mouse clicks.
    My brother is brutal, he’s a millionaire and piggybacks off my Netflix ;)

    He refuses to have cable and internet at the same time ;)
    Ah yes, yes, I am a millionaire too, I choose to live like this. 
    laseritAlBQuirky
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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Zegaloth said:


    That said, less than an hour at work pays for all my subscription services currently, so I feel content with spending 4 or 5 value meals a month for hundreds of hours of entertainment.

    Yes, I hinted at that in the beginning. 5 subs is about $75, and I make more than that in one hour. So the money really means nothing.

    And I keep the subs going to show support for games I like. Plus, all the bonus points add up over the months.

    Hard to imagine someone would melt down and threaten to rage-quit over this thread. Weird.
    laseritAlBQuirky

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