I'm waiting for a: We want this to be the BEST DAMN SPACE SIM.. so we think its best if we explore full holographic technology and integration in the metaverse. We envision using NFT so that you will really OWN your ships and will be able to take them anywhere you want!!
That will be followed by a "poll" where 200 forum members will say HELL YEAH! And then the next decade will be spent pointing to that poll and saying "We asked for them to delay the game to be The best Ever..."
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Adding even more developers to the project will probably just slow it down even more. This effect was documented in the Mythical Man Month, a book about IBM's effort to create the operating system for the 360/370 mainframes.
They kept adding more and more people, eventually getting up into the thousands, and the project kept slowing down. Adding more people just created more management burden and communication needs.
"Its[Mythical Man Month] central theme is that "adding manpower to a late software project makes it later." This idea is known as Brooks's law".
So if they now say two more years and they are adding people, make it five more years. Unless they add more people again, and then it will take even longer.
Imagine if you were a real investor and you were told the product would ship 8 years ago. Now, 8 years later, there is no product and now they estimate a few more years before there is one.
If SC has real investors, they have to be steaming mad. Unless they are taking people's donations and paying it to the real investors. That sounds like a Madoff scheme.
It is absolutely the developers fault (and yours) to not understand the concept of delivering a Minimal Marketable Product in order to reduce time to market. Here's a link you can share with uncle Chris.
Based on how reliable their previous estimates have been, this actually means nothing. Except that it isn't ready or even close. They've been so far off up to now, that their current estimate is worthless.
When I bought in Chris said SQ42 would take two years to develop. That was back in 2012 I believe.
It's kind of baffling, really. Do they really just don't know what they are doing? Or are they intentionally lying to scam money? Are they basically incompetent? Or their management is out to lunch? Or they've fallen into the creeping featurism trap with no way out?
It seems weird.
I think SC is mediocre at best.
That’s the problem imho
Compared with what?
Cause imo there's no better alternative for the kind of immersive and emergent gameplay the alpha already provides.
Maybe I missed some new space game that's available to play?
What part of the game would you like to discuss?
graphics = excellent
flight dynamics = abysmal
game play = mediocre
Care to elaborate? What's exactly wrong with the flight model in your opinion though? What gameplay exactly? There's many activities in the game.
The word that I think best describes it is
”hollow”
Hardly specific, let's try it this way:
What would be your ideal flight model for a game like Star Citizen?
I’m out having a sushi lunch with my wife, so if you want more details, you’ll have to wait.
Enjoy your lunch dude! Have a nigiri for me and please stop wasting time with internet idiots and pay attention to your wife
My wife sometimes tries to get my attention by saying "stop telling other people they are wrong and talk with me."
She just doesn't realize the daunting responsibility I face every day.
We are superheroes really, having to go out onto the internet every day to keep our gals safe.
No, you failed humanity.
I been warning of NFT MMOs for quite a while before this mainstream push started, but no you kept yelling at SC, your distraction costed us everything. The future is your fault.
Based on how reliable their previous estimates have been, this actually means nothing. Except that it isn't ready or even close. They've been so far off up to now, that their current estimate is worthless.
When I bought in Chris said SQ42 would take two years to develop. That was back in 2012 I believe.
It's kind of baffling, really. Do they really just don't know what they are doing? Or are they intentionally lying to scam money? Are they basically incompetent? Or their management is out to lunch? Or they've fallen into the creeping featurism trap with no way out?
It seems weird.
I think SC is mediocre at best.
That’s the problem imho
Compared with what?
Cause imo there's no better alternative for the kind of immersive and emergent gameplay the alpha already provides.
Maybe I missed some new space game that's available to play?
What part of the game would you like to discuss?
graphics = excellent
flight dynamics = abysmal
game play = mediocre
Care to elaborate? What's exactly wrong with the flight model in your opinion though? What gameplay exactly? There's many activities in the game.
The word that I think best describes it is
”hollow”
Hardly specific, let's try it this way:
What would be your ideal flight model for a game like Star Citizen?
I’m out having a sushi lunch with my wife, so if you want more details, you’ll have to wait.
Enjoy your lunch dude! Have a nigiri for me and please stop wasting time with internet idiots and pay attention to your wife
My wife sometimes tries to get my attention by saying "stop telling other people they are wrong and talk with me."
She just doesn't realize the daunting responsibility I face every day.
We are superheroes really, having to go out onto the internet every day to keep our gals safe.
No, you failed humanity.
I been warning of NFT MMOs for quite a while before this mainstream push started, but no you kept yelling at SC, your distraction costed us everything. The future is your fault.
It is actually possible to call 2 things pieces of crap at the same time.
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If you don't see that crowdfunded projects like SC, with all their limited edition and unique pledge rewards and secondary pledge item markets, were the precursors to NFTs in games, I don't know what to tell you.
It is actually possible to call 2 things pieces of crap at the same time.
You didn't, now look what you've done, the future is buying pixels, not even playing with the pixels you buy, like you put on a virtual shelf.
Talking about it, have you bought a piece of Mars yet?
Here is a challenge. Go find one time I supported NFT or Crypto gaming. You won’t find one. Instead I can show you dozens of times I called it bad.
So your statement is really a pretty pathetic attempt at deflection that is totally divorced from reality.
If anything, shit like Squadron 42 and people who not only fail to try and hold a developer accountable for their snakeoil but actively try to shout down people doing so has opened the door to "worse" stuff like crypto and NFT gaming.
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It is actually possible to call 2 things pieces of crap at the same time.
You didn't, now look what you've done, the future is buying pixels, not even playing with the pixels you buy, like you put on a virtual shelf.
Talking about it, have you bought a piece of Mars yet?
Here is a challenge. Go find one time I supported NFT or Crypto gaming. You won’t find one. Instead I can show you dozens of times I called it bad.
So your statement is really a pretty pathetic attempt at deflection that is totally divorced from reality.
If anything, shit like Squadron 42 and people who not only fail to try and hold a developer accountable for their snakeoil but actively try to shout down people doing so has opened the door to "worse" stuff like crypto and NFT gaming.
There's a precisely zero percent chance Chris Roberts wouldn't have included NFTs from the start if they had been ready and seemed poised to increase revenue.
It is actually possible to call 2 things pieces of crap at the same time.
You didn't, now look what you've done, the future is buying pixels, not even playing with the pixels you buy, like you put on a virtual shelf.
Talking about it, have you bought a piece of Mars yet?
Here is a challenge. Go find one time I supported NFT or Crypto gaming. You won’t find one. Instead I can show you dozens of times I called it bad.
So your statement is really a pretty pathetic attempt at deflection that is totally divorced from reality.
If anything, shit like Squadron 42 and people who not only fail to try and hold a developer accountable for their snakeoil but actively try to shout down people doing so has opened the door to "worse" stuff like crypto and NFT gaming.
There's a precisely zero percent chance Chris Roberts wouldn't have included NFTs from the start if they had been ready and seemed poised to increase revenue.
On the bright side, he still has about ten years of alpha to incorporate them.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Here is a challenge. Go find one time I supported NFT or Crypto gaming. You won’t find one. Instead I can show you dozens of times I called it bad.
So your statement is really a pretty pathetic attempt at deflection that is totally divorced from reality.
If anything, shit like Squadron 42 and people who not only fail to try and hold a developer accountable for their snakeoil but actively try to shout down people doing so has opened the door to "worse" stuff like crypto and NFT gaming.
I'm just generalizing. I'm talking about how the NFT rise was mostly ignored and not noticed until its push to the mainstream, when it was already too late for dissuasion of its implementation on mainstream gaming.
Now I just laugh really, we live on a sad state of things, but at least we all have SC to keep yelling at, at this rate it will probably outlive the NFT craze phase. :P
Life is full of changes, SC's alpha state is the constant in life, we should appreciate it.
Here is a challenge. Go find one time I supported NFT or Crypto gaming. You won’t find one. Instead I can show you dozens of times I called it bad.
So your statement is really a pretty pathetic attempt at deflection that is totally divorced from reality.
If anything, shit like Squadron 42 and people who not only fail to try and hold a developer accountable for their snakeoil but actively try to shout down people doing so has opened the door to "worse" stuff like crypto and NFT gaming.
I'm just generalizing. I'm talking about how the NFT rise was mostly ignored and not noticed until its push to the mainstream, when it was already too late for dissuasion of its implementation on mainstream gaming.
Now I just laugh really, we live on a sad state of things, but at least we all have SC to keep yelling at, at this rate it will probably outlive the NFT craze phase. :P
Life is full of changes, SC's alpha state is the constant in life, we should appreciate it.
Do you didn't generalize at all.
Nobody here is buying what you are selling. Your attacking of legitimate critics over the years has opened the doors to others who will push the boundaries of bad business like NFT/Crypto.
This is a Squadron 42 thread. Tod ate, a decade after buying it, and 8 years after the ETA... I have not played a single second of it. Roberts shot the movie production stuff 7 fucking years ago. What an utter waste. But I guess we know that "Sizzle Reels" sell...
And no... I'm not going to "appreciate it". Maybe it is YOU who need to appreciate that frequently, where there is smoke... there is fire. And stop trying to tell everyone they don't understand game development and other such nonsense. The people who didn't actually understand were the ones that set the budgets and timelines, and those were the developers.
Own it, nod, and defend your vision of the game all you want. but you and the others need to stop being dismissive of LEGITIMATE complaints about the development. That's the kind of shit that opened the door to the NFT/Crypto guys.
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Release 2014 didn’t happen. All footage was shot seven years ago. In 2016 a tester played through the entire game. The roadmap got removed. 2019 beta didn’t happen. Q3 2020 beta didn’t happen. In 2022 SQ42 is still a couple of years away.
We can only judge SQ42 by its development and whatever CIG told us, we don’t have clue about the quality of the game. The quality of CIGs timelines, promises, roadmaps and carefully curated bits of information however have failed time and again. None of their deadlines have been met.
Yes, development is hard, delays happen all the time, the same with setbacks and all that, we know, we know. But apparently CIG doesn’t know, why else would they keep giving completely wrong estimates? Insanity is doing the same thing while expecting different results, are Roberts and company nuts?
Or maybe, maybe crowdfunding requires a dangling carrot just out of reach. Just a little more time, a little more excitement, a little more funding. Rule number one, keep your audience engaged at all times. Roberts isn’t a retard, he just acts like one. It got him very, very far, why change?
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
We can only judge SQ42 by its development and whatever CIG told us, we don’t have clue about the quality of the game. The quality of CIGs timelines, promises, roadmaps and carefully curated bits of information however have failed time and again. None of their deadlines have been met.
The hour vertical slice is very clear on the type of play and general quality of that play, which are the same play mechanics of SC. It's not that recent but it's like we can't say we have no idea of how SQ42 looks and plays.
The fact the play mechanics are about the same as SC's, even the bugs and wonkyness visible on SC is the same, is pretty 101 you can tell where SQ42 play stands by looking at how finished those same mechanics are on SC.
Tho they could, and should, give an updated vertical slice even if it is of the same mission, as they did that before and the general improvement accross the board was very visible (the morrow tour that is).
Based on how reliable their previous estimates have been, this actually means nothing. Except that it isn't ready or even close. They've been so far off up to now, that their current estimate is worthless.
When I bought in Chris said SQ42 would take two years to develop. That was back in 2012 I believe.
It's kind of baffling, really. Do they really just don't know what they are doing? Or are they intentionally lying to scam money? Are they basically incompetent? Or their management is out to lunch? Or they've fallen into the creeping featurism trap with no way out?
It seems weird.
I think SC is mediocre at best.
That’s the problem imho
Compared with what?
Cause imo there's no better alternative for the kind of immersive and emergent gameplay the alpha already provides.
Maybe I missed some new space game that's available to play?
What part of the game would you like to discuss?
graphics = excellent
flight dynamics = abysmal
game play = mediocre
Care to elaborate? What's exactly wrong with the flight model in your opinion though? What gameplay exactly? There's many activities in the game.
The word that I think best describes it is
”hollow”
Hardly specific, let's try it this way:
What would be your ideal flight model for a game like Star Citizen?
I’m out having a sushi lunch with my wife, so if you want more details, you’ll have to wait.
Enjoy your lunch dude! Have a nigiri for me and please stop wasting time with internet idiots and pay attention to your wife
My wife sometimes tries to get my attention by saying "stop telling other people they are wrong and talk with me."
She just doesn't realize the daunting responsibility I face every day.
We are superheroes really, having to go out onto the internet every day to keep our gals safe.
We can only judge SQ42 by its development and whatever CIG told us, we don’t have clue about the quality of the game. The quality of CIGs timelines, promises, roadmaps and carefully curated bits of information however have failed time and again. None of their deadlines have been met.
The hour vertical slice is very clear on the type of play and general quality of that play, which are the same play mechanics of SC. It's not that recent but it's like we can't say we have no idea of how SQ42 looks and plays.
The fact the play mechanics are about the same as SC's, even the bugs and wonkyness visible on SC is the same, is pretty 101 you can tell where SQ42 play stands by looking at how finished those same mechanics are on SC.
Tho they could, and should, give an updated vertical slice even if it is of the same mission, as they did that before and the general improvement accross the board was very visible (the morrow tour that is).
You do realize that the footage you are using to show progress is 4 years old right?
Doesn't that ALONE tell you something is wrong?
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We can only judge SQ42 by its development and whatever CIG told us, we don’t have clue about the quality of the game. The quality of CIGs timelines, promises, roadmaps and carefully curated bits of information however have failed time and again. None of their deadlines have been met.
The hour vertical slice is very clear on the type of play and general quality of that play, which are the same play mechanics of SC. It's not that recent but it's like we can't say we have no idea of how SQ42 looks and plays.
The fact the play mechanics are about the same as SC's, even the bugs and wonkyness visible on SC is the same, is pretty 101 you can tell where SQ42 play stands by looking at how finished those same mechanics are on SC.
Tho they could, and should, give an updated vertical slice even if it is of the same mission, as they did that before and the general improvement accross the board was very visible (the morrow tour that is).
You do realize that the footage you are using to show progress is 4 years old right?
Doesn't that ALONE tell you something is wrong?
Especially if the bugs and wonkiness shared with SC 4 years ago still largely exist today in SC.
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You do realize that the footage you are using to show progress is 4 years old right?
Doesn't that ALONE tell you something is wrong?
I mentioned it is nothing new. I'm just saying that there is no guesswork game as far how SQ42 looks and how it plays. From then to now if they were to show the same vertical slice it would probably just look improved on the areas they improved for SC as well since (graphics this, AI that, etc).
I don't agree myself CR path with this, as on 2020 he stated that will only show SQ42 once its close to release. And since, nothing.
Unless there is some major pressure from backers, and with the statement on the interview mentioned here (that we're up to a wait of about 2 if not more years), then it's likely this year will be another year of radio silence beyond their monthly reports for the campaign.
Actually... let me fix that for you: It's not the GAMER'S fault that this DEVELOPER seems to have zero clue about what it takes to make video games. The DEVELOPER is the one who took my money with an estimated delivery date that passed 8 years ago. Instead they are 8 YEARS past that and I have not played 1 single second of the game. They filmed the damn scenes 7 YEARS AGO. That alone indicates a totally chaotic and fucked up development schedule So don't even TRY to turn this shit on GAMERs That is just absolutely fucking pathetic.
Again that is a pathetic deflection attempt. The DEVELOPER set the expectation. Instead of acknowledging that they own 100% of that, you weakly attempt to toss around meaningless phrases like “best game ever”. You are 100% wrong for trying to blame PLAYERS when it was the DEVELOPER that set the expectations. Just own that and move on. Make all the “best game ever claims you want but don’t even TRY to blame players for actually expecting to play some part of the game 8 fucking years past the ETA. That just fucking sad.
You bought the early bird ticket for a ride you didn't know much about and with little guarantees. If all you wanted was to get to the destination you should have went it a secure transportation. Just like pre-order, crowdfunding has it's risks, if you're not aware of them or prepared to endure them it's on you alone.
Developers words and intentions are worth nothing and game development, specially in games that cross uncharted terrain, is filled with uncertainties and technical challenges impossible to predict, that seems like a lesson many gamers still have a hard time to get.
Actually... let me fix that for you: It's not the GAMER'S fault that this DEVELOPER seems to have zero clue about what it takes to make video games. The DEVELOPER is the one who took my money with an estimated delivery date that passed 8 years ago. Instead they are 8 YEARS past that and I have not played 1 single second of the game. They filmed the damn scenes 7 YEARS AGO. That alone indicates a totally chaotic and fucked up development schedule So don't even TRY to turn this shit on GAMERs That is just absolutely fucking pathetic.
You bought the early bird ticket for a ride you didn't know much about and with little guarantees. If all you wanted was to get to the destination you should have went it a secure transportation. Just like pre-order, crowdfunding has it's risks, if you're not aware of them or prepared to endure them it's on you alone.
Oh yes, the risk is definitely all on the backers, CR doesn't have any.
But failure? He totally owns all of it like any ship captain.
Now you not understanding this? That's clearly thats all you.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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That will be followed by a "poll" where 200 forum members will say HELL YEAH! And then the next decade will be spent pointing to that poll and saying "We asked for them to delay the game to be The best Ever..."
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I'm not defending Roberts but I understand why he doesn't want to release a minimally viable product
I been warning of NFT MMOs for quite a while before this mainstream push started, but no you kept yelling at SC, your distraction costed us everything. The future is your fault.
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Talking about it, have you bought a piece of Mars yet?
So your statement is really a pretty pathetic attempt at deflection that is totally divorced from reality.
If anything, shit like Squadron 42 and people who not only fail to try and hold a developer accountable for their snakeoil but actively try to shout down people doing so has opened the door to "worse" stuff like crypto and NFT gaming.
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The difference is in the people you trust.
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Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I'm just generalizing. I'm talking about how the NFT rise was mostly ignored and not noticed until its push to the mainstream, when it was already too late for dissuasion of its implementation on mainstream gaming.
Now I just laugh really, we live on a sad state of things, but at least we all have SC to keep yelling at, at this rate it will probably outlive the NFT craze phase. :P
Life is full of changes, SC's alpha state is the constant in life, we should appreciate it.
Nobody here is buying what you are selling. Your attacking of legitimate critics over the years has opened the doors to others who will push the boundaries of bad business like NFT/Crypto.
This is a Squadron 42 thread. Tod ate, a decade after buying it, and 8 years after the ETA... I have not played a single second of it. Roberts shot the movie production stuff 7 fucking years ago. What an utter waste. But I guess we know that "Sizzle Reels" sell...
And no... I'm not going to "appreciate it". Maybe it is YOU who need to appreciate that frequently, where there is smoke... there is fire. And stop trying to tell everyone they don't understand game development and other such nonsense. The people who didn't actually understand were the ones that set the budgets and timelines, and those were the developers.
Own it, nod, and defend your vision of the game all you want. but you and the others need to stop being dismissive of LEGITIMATE complaints about the development. That's the kind of shit that opened the door to the NFT/Crypto guys.
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All footage was shot seven years ago.
In 2016 a tester played through the entire game.
The roadmap got removed.
2019 beta didn’t happen.
Q3 2020 beta didn’t happen.
In 2022 SQ42 is still a couple of years away.
We can only judge SQ42 by its development and whatever CIG told us, we don’t have clue about the quality of the game. The quality of CIGs timelines, promises, roadmaps and carefully curated bits of information however have failed time and again. None of their deadlines have been met.
Yes, development is hard, delays happen all the time, the same with setbacks and all that, we know, we know. But apparently CIG doesn’t know, why else would they keep giving completely wrong estimates? Insanity is doing the same thing while expecting different results, are Roberts and company nuts?
Or maybe, maybe crowdfunding requires a dangling carrot just out of reach. Just a little more time, a little more excitement, a little more funding. Rule number one, keep your audience engaged at all times. Roberts isn’t a retard, he just acts like one. It got him very, very far, why change?
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Will SC and SQ42 be a success until their release?
And just like a Tootsie Pop...
The World may never know
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
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The fact the play mechanics are about the same as SC's, even the bugs and wonkyness visible on SC is the same, is pretty 101 you can tell where SQ42 play stands by looking at how finished those same mechanics are on SC.
Tho they could, and should, give an updated vertical slice even if it is of the same mission, as they did that before and the general improvement accross the board was very visible (the morrow tour that is).
Doesn't that ALONE tell you something is wrong?
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I don't agree myself CR path with this, as on 2020 he stated that will only show SQ42 once its close to release. And since, nothing.
Unless there is some major pressure from backers, and with the statement on the interview mentioned here (that we're up to a wait of about 2 if not more years), then it's likely this year will be another year of radio silence beyond their monthly reports for the campaign.
But failure? He totally owns all of it like any ship captain.
Now you not understanding this? That's clearly thats all you.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon