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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    klash2def said:
    By the time SQ42/SC comes out, the tech it's built on is going to look very dated. We are talking about a game with 2012-15 tech releasing in the 2027-2030 window.
    That's not how game development works though, tech is development is ongoing. After all, RedDeadRedemption 2 didn't released outdated because it used a 10 years old tech.
     
    In fact, there's no game or engine released or announced in development that has the same ability to seamlessly have scale and fidelity like Star Citizen's StarEngine.

    Starfield release will be another great example of how far ahead Star Citizen/Squadron42 tech is. Multiple players from NMS, Destiny, Elite, EvE have already put down those games to play Star Citizen, as they've burned all they've realised those games have nothing new left to offer.

    It's other games that have to keep up to Star Citizen, not the way around. B)
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Leaked new Star Citizen feature!!

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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    edited January 2022
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    By the time SQ42/SC comes out, the tech it's built on is going to look very dated. We are talking about a game with 2012-15 tech releasing in the 2027-2030 window.
    That's not how game development works though, tech is development is ongoing. After all, RedDeadRedemption 2 didn't released outdated because it used a 10 years old tech.
     
    In fact, there's no game or engine released or announced in development that has the same ability to seamlessly have scale and fidelity like Star Citizen's StarEngine.

    Starfield release will be another great example of how far ahead Star Citizen/Squadron42 tech is. Multiple players from NMS, Destiny, Elite, EvE have already put down those games to play Star Citizen, as they've burned all they've realised those games have nothing new left to offer.

    It's other games that have to keep up to Star Citizen, not the way around. B)


    hah, im not even going to tell you how I know you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to anything RAGE-related. Let's leave it at that. 

    Also, how do you know there aren't any games in development that have the ability to scale the tech? Where are you getting this from?

    I work in the industry right now. I know for a fact that almost all AAA studios have upgraded their tech and toolkits. The next 5 years of gaming are going to be incredible. From a tech perspective. 

    As far as games, Ive heard things through the grapevine about what's coming next from a few major studios but unlike some people I don't run to the internet to share every little thing I hear about, it's unprofessional. 

    Just know you are wrong to think that only SC has tech that is scaleable. very wrong. 

    Do you know about every game in development now?

    Starfield isn't going to mean anything for Star Citizen whatsoever! Lol.. bro what? Outside of blowing SC/SQ42 out the airlock I don't get it. 

    Multiple players may have tried SC but they have NOT stopped playing their game. You are out of your mind if you think SC has had any effect on Destiny, NMS or EVE, maybe Elite because they are similar but again nothing permanent. 

    I hate to say this because I don't like debating with white knight type of personalities but this is why people say you guys sound delusional. 

    Like I said, the SC/SQ42 tech demo is not going to be able to compare to what is coming. Based on the way the development has gone, and the nature of the lead to just put random shit in the wheel, the 2027-2030 release window means your game is going to have to go through a complete overhaul on the tech side to keep up with whatever the trends are at the time. Just to compete. 

    It's not happening. So as I said.. if it does release in that window its going to be a dated product that most people will avoid for better options. 
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
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    Wargfoot said:
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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    answer me this @Babuinix

    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game?

     
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    edited January 2022
    klash2def said:
    hah, im not even going to tell you how I know you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to anything RAGE-related. Let's leave it at that.
    Just like RAGE gets iterated upon so do other engines.

    The reason why Star Citizen/Squadron 42 still don't have a rival or probably won't have anytime soon is because the co$t to get to that level of scale and complexity is too high for the established big AAA studios who have to comply with shareholders restraints.

    The tech these studios are upgrading too has been what CIG has been doing from the get go all these years and why it's ahead of the curve:



    That you think Starfield will even come close to anything Star Citizen/Squadron 42 related shows you know very little about what these games are about in the first place.



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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    edited January 2022
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    hah, im not even going to tell you how I know you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to anything RAGE-related. Let's leave it at that.
    Just like RAGE gets iterated upon so do other engines.

    The reason why Star Citizen/Squadron 42 still don't have a rival or probably won't have anytime soon is because the co$t to get to that level of scale and complexity is too high for the established big AAA studios who have to comply with shareholders restraints.

    The tech these studios are upgrading too has been what CIG has been doing from the get go all these years and why it's ahead of the curve:



    That you think Starfield will even come close to anything Star Citizen/Squadron 42 related shows you know very little about what these games are about in the first place.
    You know what.. No. Im not going to do it. You got it boss. 


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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    klash2def said:
    answer me this @Babuinix

    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game?
    If you have to ask you're not yet in a position to judge the game as you haven't done the basic research yet.

    I'm sure you being in the industry and all it won't be hard to get grasp of it.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited January 2022
    klash2def said:
    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game? 

    The thing that attracts me about SC that NMS, Elite and friends can't deliver (EvE does but in its very own way as per type of game) is that it's pushing to be an actual MMO, it's very core to play as a group be that with friends or with the 101 guild-play, for PvE or PvP activities, from co-op crewing a ship to a group of ships playing together, and the game benefits that play and that's why many who play attm are playing it like that.

    Having been looking for that type of play, I never could enjoy Elite or NMS like I'd wish, games that feel huge, but ridden by hollowness and loneliness xD

    Because this type of play is such rare to find on any higher quality/scale title, SC bet on this design works to fill a gap, SQ42 is the one that is more of a generic campaign type.
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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    answer me this @Babuinix

    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game?
    If you have to ask you're not yet in a position to judge the game as you haven't done the basic research yet.

    I'm sure you being in the industry and all it won't be hard to get grasp of it.
    I'm interested in the answer to this, too. Considering it's a rather logical and valid question, could you answer it? 
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Babuinix said:
    Nope.  You can say it a thousand more times and it will still be as wrong.  the DEVELOPER owns 100% of the EXPECTATIONS because THEY set them. This is such a simple concept that it must really be hard to keep trying the mental gymnastics to deflect all blame from something so clear and simple.
    If you can simply accept that basic truth then you can go about with your "best EvAr!" game stuff and all the rest. 
    Again, the most honest thing you have said in this thread, and likely ever was that Chris Roberts word means nothing.  Thats what you said.  And THAT is true.
    You cope with it whatever you like man. Hopefully you learned a valuable lesson and next time you fund something you do some prior research on what you're getting into. And this goes for every gamer venturing into crowdfunding territory.
    Reality is not coping.

    The only coping is on your end as you try mental gymnastics to excuse behavior from someone who's word you literally said "mean nothing". 

    But you keep on coping however you need.  Just know that ANYTIME I see you try to shift responsibility for failed expectations onto the customer I will call you on it and bring you back to reality.

    Other than that, feel free to carry on with whatever "Best Game EvAr" stuff you need to cope.

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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    LynxJSA said:
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    answer me this @Babuinix

    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game?
    If you have to ask you're not yet in a position to judge the game as you haven't done the basic research yet.

    I'm sure you being in the industry and  all it won't be hard to get grasp of it.
    I'm interested in the answer to this, too. Considering it's a rather logical and valid question, could you answer it? 
      I've probably posted about this a hundred times by now.

    This is one of the links I could find: https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/7639272/#Comment_7639272

    That whole thread touches some of the differences.
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    Slapshot1188 said: territory.
    The only coping is on your end as you try mental gymnastics to excuse behavior from someone who's word you literally said "mean nothing". 

    But you keep on coping however you need.  Just know that ANYTIME I see you try to shift responsibility for failed expectations onto the customer I will call you on it and bring you back to reality.

    Other than that, feel free to carry on with whatever "Best Game EvAr" stuff you need to cope.
    Nah you're coping alright. Hence the tautrums adnausseum year after year.

    I'm good because I understood what I was investing at , kept following the development and adapted my expectations acccordingly.

    I play and enjoy Star Citizen and plenty other games and don't feel the need to keep crying over Squadron 42 and instead cherish that it's being developed with such care and effort.

    It's all about the mindset. 
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    edited January 2022
    Babuinix said:
    Slapshot1188 said: territory.
    The only coping is on your end as you try mental gymnastics to excuse behavior from someone who's word you literally said "mean nothing". 

    But you keep on coping however you need.  Just know that ANYTIME I see you try to shift responsibility for failed expectations onto the customer I will call you on it and bring you back to reality.

    Other than that, feel free to carry on with whatever "Best Game EvAr" stuff you need to cope.
    Nah you're coping alright. Hence the tautrums adnausseum year after year.

    I'm good because I understood what I was investing at , kept following the development and adapted my expectations acccordingly.

    I play and enjoy Star Citizen and plenty other games and don't feel the need to keep crying over Squadron 42 and instead cherish that it's being developed with such care and effort.

    It's all about the mindset. 
    See, your need to put down people as "crying over" a game that is literally 8 years late and counting, which we haven't played a single second, from a developer whos "words mean nothing" by your own admission, says an AWFUL lot more about you and your coping methods than anything else. 

    but go have fun in whatever exists of SC.. because this is a SQ42 thread and there is ZERO to play for this game.  You will note that unlike YOU, I never jump in and tell you that you shouldn't enjoy the alpha of SC or anything else.  All you can't do is try to shift blame.  So go enjoy your current ships in SC or buy a new one and knock yourself out testing the other game, and if you do not like or have interest in SQ42 then feel free to skip these threads.

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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    tzervo said:
    Babuinix said:
    LynxJSA said:
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    answer me this @Babuinix

    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game?
    If you have to ask you're not yet in a position to judge the game as you haven't done the basic research yet.

    I'm sure you being in the industry and  all it won't be hard to get grasp of it.
    I'm interested in the answer to this, too. Considering it's a rather logical and valid question, could you answer it? 
      I've probably posted about this a hundred times by now.

    This is one of the links I could find: https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/7639272/#Comment_7639272

    That whole thread touches some of the differences.
    Nitpick about the content in that link: E:D is not an offline game at heart. Yes you can play it in solo mode, but the BGS is shared by the whole playerbase even in this case, plus there are avenues even for players wanting to do large group efforts (see powerplay, minor/player factions, distant world expeditions etc), even if they are not all in the same instance. Many do just that. I think MaxBacon's answer was more accurate on that point. 
    It is and it was always an offline game at heart like every other Elite game. In the kickstart it was even announced that it would be playable without an internet connection before they drop it at the last minute. (probably piracy fears)

    Online playability with friends is ductaped by P2P network that even after all these years is still not very reliable as it depends on each player connection.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited January 2022
    Nilden said:
    Leaked new Star Citizen feature!!

    Cups and cup holders for your RSI ships!

    Kool Aid Cups  Etsy Canada
    If I made a cup like that and put "SC" on it with a little space ship, the fucker would probably try to sue me ;)

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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    tzervo said:
    Babuinix said:
    LynxJSA said:
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    answer me this Babuinix

    What exactly does SC/SQ42 do better than NMS, EVE, Destiny, or Elite? 

    As I said, to me, it tries to take elements from all of these games but the execution just really isn't there. So why would any player of those games completely quit to play your game?
    If you have to ask you're not yet in a position to judge the game as you haven't done the basic research yet.

    I'm sure you being in the industry and  all it won't be hard to get grasp of it.
    I'm interested in the answer to this, too. Considering it's a rather logical and valid question, could you answer it? 
      I've probably posted about this a hundred times by now.

    This is one of the links I could find: https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/comment/7639272/#Comment_7639272

    That whole thread touches some of the differences.
    Nitpick about the content in that link: E:D is not an offline game at heart. Yes you can play it in solo mode, but the BGS (aka the state of the universe) is shared and affected by the whole playerbase even in this case, plus there are avenues even for players wanting to do large group efforts (see powerplay, minor/player factions, distant world expeditions etc), even if they are not all in the same instance. Many do just that. I think MaxBacon's answer was more accurate on that point. 
    It is ans always been an offline game with some ductaped P2P network solutions to give a resemblance that players are sharing a universe when in the end it's all separated instances being spawned by the players. Which is why there's no global chat or players relog to spawn a new instance to reset mats etc. 

    It's been a issue since ever: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/32gtw3/lets_talk_about_the_elephant_in_the_room_network/
  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    edited January 2022
    See, your need to put down people as "crying over" a game that is literally 8 years late and counting, which we haven't played a single second, from a developer whos "words mean nothing" by your own admission, says an AWFUL lot more about you and your coping methods than anything else. 

    but go have fun in whatever exists of SC.. because this is a SQ42 thread and there is ZERO to play for this game.  You will note that unlike YOU, I never jump in and tell you that you shouldn't enjoy the alpha of SC or anything else.  All you can't do is try to shift blame.  So go enjoy your current ships in SC or buy a new one and knock yourself out testing the other game, and if you do not like or have interest in SQ42 then feel free to skip these threads.
    The only shift blaming is in your part though. You pledged for a Chris Roberts game and that's the only guarantee you had. If you did so with a specific date in mind and that was a deal breaker for you shouldn't backed it in the first place. Just the way it is with crowdfunding. Not understanding that is not doing homework prior investing.

    Oh and you would know this is not a SQ42 thread if only you had read the article.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Babuinix said:
    klash2def said:
    hah, im not even going to tell you how I know you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to anything RAGE-related. Let's leave it at that.
    Just like RAGE gets iterated upon so do other engines.

    The reason why Star Citizen/Squadron 42 still don't have a rival or probably won't have anytime soon is because the co$t to get to that level of scale and complexity is too high for the established big AAA studios who have to comply with shareholders restraints.

    The tech these studios are upgrading too has been what CIG has been doing from the get go all these years and why it's ahead of the curve:



    That you think Starfield will even come close to anything Star Citizen/Squadron 42 related shows you know very little about what these games are about in the first place.



    Riot Games waves hello, probably launch their new MMO before SC as well, despite just getting started last year.

    Let's keep track...
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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442
    tzervo said:
    Eh, you see offline game, I see online. Shared state and being able to play with others makes a bigger difference imo. The fact is that you can play with others, and you cannot play offline. ^o^
    You can play alone in your own instance without being affected by other players and affect other players faction wars. Smart.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Babuinix said:
    See, your need to put down people as "crying over" a game that is literally 8 years late and counting, which we haven't played a single second, from a developer whos "words mean nothing" by your own admission, says an AWFUL lot more about you and your coping methods than anything else. 

    but go have fun in whatever exists of SC.. because this is a SQ42 thread and there is ZERO to play for this game.  You will note that unlike YOU, I never jump in and tell you that you shouldn't enjoy the alpha of SC or anything else.  All you can't do is try to shift blame.  So go enjoy your current ships in SC or buy a new one and knock yourself out testing the other game, and if you do not like or have interest in SQ42 then feel free to skip these threads.
    The only shift blaming is in your part thiugh. You pledged for a Chris Roberts game and that's the only guarantee you had. If you did so with a specific date in mind and that was a deal breaker for you shouldn't backed it in the first place. Just the way it is with crowdfunding. Not understanding that is not doing homework prior investing.

    Oh and you would know this is not a SQ42 thread if only you had read the article.
    Nope.  Chris Roberts set the expectations 100%.  You said the players were 100% to blame.  That is 100% wrong.  Always has been and always will be.  But cope however you need.  Just know you will be called on it when you say it publicly. 
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Babuinix said:
    See, your need to put down people as "crying over" a game that is literally 8 years late and counting, which we haven't played a single second, from a developer whos "words mean nothing" by your own admission, says an AWFUL lot more about you and your coping methods than anything else. 

    but go have fun in whatever exists of SC.. because this is a SQ42 thread and there is ZERO to play for this game.  You will note that unlike YOU, I never jump in and tell you that you shouldn't enjoy the alpha of SC or anything else.  All you can't do is try to shift blame.  So go enjoy your current ships in SC or buy a new one and knock yourself out testing the other game, and if you do not like or have interest in SQ42 then feel free to skip these threads.
    The only shift blaming is in your part thiugh. You pledged for a Chris Roberts game and that's the only guarantee you had. If you did so with a specific date in mind and that was a deal breaker for you shouldn't backed it in the first place. Just the way it is with crowdfunding. Not understanding that is not doing homework prior investing.

    Oh and you would know this is not a SQ42 thread if only you had read the article.
    Nope.  Chris Roberts set the expectations 100%.  You said the players were 100% to blame.  That is 100% wrong.  Always has been and always will be.  But cope however you need.  Just know you will be called on it when you say it publicly. 
    Babs is blaming gamers for believing the expectations Chris set. Apparently trusting Roberts is a rather dumb thing to do. 

    /Cheers,
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