You're literally doing exactly what the article says. Read the article.
You are uncomfortable because why again? why are you so quick to dismiss what I said when Im basically giving more thought to what others in the thread have said.
The only shark-jumping I see here is you. Everything I wrote was true but you tried to cherry-pick a small section of a big thought and failed at it.
Dont hurt yourself.
Sir, I really don't care that you are uncomfortable.
If Im being honest I relish seeing you act this way. You can tuck your head under the cover all you want sir, it's not changing anything.
"Beliefs don't change facts. Facts, if you're reasonable, should change your beliefs."
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
Interesting that they BOTH assumed I meant them... 2 sides of the same coin. Demonstrated perfectly.
Why are you talking like Yoda? Say what you mean. I don't play assumptions or passive-aggressive comments. I directly address people. You should try it. It's called communication. You are trying to derail the conversation now because you are uncomfortable.
I don't care though.
No disrespect to anybody else but this is why the kids were saying "Boomer" like it's an insult.
Dude, Why are you saying we jumped the shark in the conversation we are having but then turn around and say.. Im not talking about you?
Then who the hell were you talking about? Who Jumped the shark? SMH..from what I see, Klash addressed the "game is woke" people and slapshot tried to "um actually" and cherry-pick a thought that was too big for him. Because he was uncomfortable.
Seriously, who do you think you are dealing with here? I don't know if I should be insulted or laugh at you. Maybe both? You try this in every thread Im in. It's kind of cute.
You already feel it don't you? This isn't going to ever go your way with me. Leave me alone bro.. don't get your feelings hurt and your blood pressure raised. It's not worth it.
"Beliefs don't change facts. Facts, if you're reasonable, should change your beliefs."
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
Im going to say this and be done because I really am not interested in going back forth with someone whose entire thing is to derail any statement I make regardless of topic.
I try to write well-thought-out, Logical, statements when I make one, Ive been doing it for years. I am not perfect by any means but I do try to provide my own perspective just like everyone else here.
I have no clue why some people think I am not allowed to share my thoughts but that's a personal problem for them to figure out not me. Nothing will change on my end.
I hope that people get to the bigger thought in my post and not just do the cowardly thing by trying to cherry-pick my post looking for faults. What I said and provided is a lot to take in and it's not something you will likely process right now if you are on the disagreeing side.
And this whole narrative of Us vs Them, miss me with that bs too. We all know, there is such thing as right and wrong. That's the only "VS" I care about and the only one I really address.
It was wrong for people to be In this thread saying this beautiful idea is so-called "Woke" it was offensive and very dismissive of not only the culture the game pulls from but the people working on the game also.
I saw others addressing it. It warmed my heart. I addressed it as well but I guess my thought was a little too uncomfortable for some to handle. Good. Im glad you are uncomfortable with that. There is no place for that bs in gaming.
I was also uncomfortable watching people label this as woke simply because they saw "African" but I guess that doesn't matter.
I wish this studio and game nothing but success, they definitely have my support.
You are either for equality or you are not. There is no in-between on this. There is no agreement to disagree on this. It's very clear.
If you are for equality there would be NO issue at all with this game. Clearly, people have an issue because they have to say it's woke trash.
What's even worse is I fully expected people to come at me for telling those people why they are wrong to even use the term in the first place.
The first reply to my post was "this is dumb" "get back to the game" after people literally were saying the same things I said.
It's amazing how this happens the day after MLK day. Poetic even.
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"Beliefs don't change facts. Facts, if you're reasonable, should change your beliefs."
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
I have no clue why some people think I am not allowed to share my thoughts but that's a personal problem for them to figure out not me. Nothing will change on my end.
Because its a gaming forum and this may surprise you but nobody wants to hear your thoughts on a Forbes article about Wokeness. Just like nobody wants to read the other guy talk about how the day is coming when the "last white person is eliminated"
All you are doing is a disservice to the actual game at hand that actually deserves to have a chance to be evaluated on it's merits.
You want to start a post on Forbes or wherever to discuss Wokeness send me an invite and I'll go join you there. This is: Not... The... Place.
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I have no clue why some people think I am not allowed to share my thoughts but that's a personal problem for them to figure out not me. Nothing will change on my end.
Because its a gaming forum and this may surprise you but nobody wants to hear your thoughts on a Forbes article about Wokeness. Just like nobody wants to read the other guy talk about how the day is coming when the "last white person is eliminated"
All you are doing is a disservice to the actual game at hand that actually deserves to have a chance to be evaluated on it's merits.
You want to start a post on Forbes or wherever to discuss Wokeness send me an invite and I'll go join you there. This is: Not... The... Place.
Okay, last one.
You. Dont. Get. To. Tell. Me. or. ANYONE. What. The. Place. Is. To. Speak. My. Opinion. In. A. Forum. Where. People. Are. Giving. Their. Opinion. My. Thoughts. Were. Not. About. The. Forbes. Article. It. Was. About. The. fact. That. People. Like. You. Think. Its. Okay. to. label. Woke. on. everything. they. don't. like. because. everything. not. representing. of. them. makes. them. uncomfortable.
Got it? Great! Good talk!
"Beliefs don't change facts. Facts, if you're reasonable, should change your beliefs."
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
"If only you knew how you look. Because what you are really saying is you hate any discourse that isn't a direct representation of yourself. Outside of your whiteness, it is an inconvenience. "
1 this is dumb at it's face value. And 2 I have no idea what color anyone is on a message board unless they proclaim it.
Now that we have had both sides "Woke!!" and "Not Woke!!" fully display their warts, lets get back to the game itself. Who here has signed up for the Alpha? Do we know if it's under NDA?
Why did you feel the need to address my post if you wanted to focus on the game?
Because you did exactly what I was talking about.
You tried to dismiss everything I said by saying "let's get back to the game".. after multiple posters said their part on the wokeness claim.
As if I wasn't talking about the game and addressing the people that think the game is woke also. I did what everyone else did just in more detail.
You are part of the problem no doubt about it. I dont care if you agree, you literally just did it. It's not the first time either. Like seriously what's your deal?
Do you like black guys sir?
You want my attention so bad in every thread, I'm starting to think you have a crush.
Also If you want to take a poll of the people on this site please be my guest. I am willing to bet most people here are white. You included. Its not hard to tell based on the conversations I've seen here for over a decade.
I have no clue why some people think I am not allowed to share my thoughts but that's a personal problem for them to figure out not me. Nothing will change on my end.
Because its a gaming forum and this may surprise you but nobody wants to hear your thoughts on a Forbes article about Wokeness. Just like nobody wants to read the other guy talk about how the day is coming when the "last white person is eliminated"
All you are doing is a disservice to the actual game at hand that actually deserves to have a chance to be evaluated on it's merits.
You want to start a post on Forbes or wherever to discuss Wokeness send me an invite and I'll go join you there. This is: Not... The... Place.
Okay, last one.
You. Dont. Get. To. Tell. Me. or. ANYONE. What. The. Place. Is. To. Speak. My. Opinion. In. A. Forum. Where. People. Are. Giving. Their. Opinion. My. Thoughts. Were. Not. About. The. Forbes. Article. It. Was. About. The. fact. That. People. Like. You. Think. Its. Okay. to. label. Woke. on. everything. they. don't. like. because. everything. not. representing. of. them. makes. them. uncomfortable.
Got it? Great! Good talk!
Unless of course what you are posting is against the rules of the place. But it's clear those are for the rest of the community and not you. And no.. I'm not going to go tell the teacher on you. But I will continue to call it when I see it.
So now you had your "last one" and I had my "last one".
Can we now get back to the... GAME?
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You are uncomfortable because why again? why are you so quick to dismiss what I said when Im basically giving more thought to what others in the thread have said.
The only shark-jumping I see here is you. Everything I wrote was true but you tried to cherry-pick a small section of a big thought and failed at it.
Dont hurt yourself.
Sir, I really don't care that you are uncomfortable.
If Im being honest I relish seeing you act this way. You can tuck your head under the cover all you want sir, it's not changing anything.
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I don't care though.
No disrespect to anybody else but this is why the kids were saying "Boomer" like it's an insult.
Dude, Why are you saying we jumped the shark in the conversation we are having but then turn around and say.. Im not talking about you?
Then who the hell were you talking about? Who Jumped the shark? SMH..from what I see, Klash addressed the "game is woke" people and slapshot tried to "um actually" and cherry-pick a thought that was too big for him. Because he was uncomfortable.
Seriously, who do you think you are dealing with here? I don't know if I should be insulted or laugh at you. Maybe both? You try this in every thread Im in. It's kind of cute.
You already feel it don't you? This isn't going to ever go your way with me. Leave me alone bro.. don't get your feelings hurt and your blood pressure raised. It's not worth it.
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
I try to write well-thought-out, Logical, statements when I make one, Ive been doing it for years. I am not perfect by any means but I do try to provide my own perspective just like everyone else here.
I have no clue why some people think I am not allowed to share my thoughts but that's a personal problem for them to figure out not me. Nothing will change on my end.
I hope that people get to the bigger thought in my post and not just do the cowardly thing by trying to cherry-pick my post looking for faults. What I said and provided is a lot to take in and it's not something you will likely process right now if you are on the disagreeing side.
And this whole narrative of Us vs Them, miss me with that bs too. We all know, there is such thing as right and wrong. That's the only "VS" I care about and the only one I really address.
It was wrong for people to be In this thread saying this beautiful idea is so-called "Woke" it was offensive and very dismissive of not only the culture the game pulls from but the people working on the game also.
I saw others addressing it. It warmed my heart. I addressed it as well but I guess my thought was a little too uncomfortable for some to handle. Good. Im glad you are uncomfortable with that. There is no place for that bs in gaming.
I was also uncomfortable watching people label this as woke simply because they saw "African" but I guess that doesn't matter.
I wish this studio and game nothing but success, they definitely have my support.
You are either for equality or you are not. There is no in-between on this. There is no agreement to disagree on this. It's very clear.
If you are for equality there would be NO issue at all with this game. Clearly, people have an issue because they have to say it's woke trash.
What's even worse is I fully expected people to come at me for telling those people why they are wrong to even use the term in the first place.
The first reply to my post was "this is dumb" "get back to the game"
after people literally were saying the same things I said.
It's amazing how this happens the day after MLK day. Poetic even.
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
All you are doing is a disservice to the actual game at hand that actually deserves to have a chance to be evaluated on it's merits.
You want to start a post on Forbes or wherever to discuss Wokeness send me an invite and I'll go join you there. This is: Not... The... Place.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
You. Dont. Get. To. Tell. Me. or. ANYONE. What. The. Place. Is. To. Speak. My. Opinion. In. A. Forum. Where. People. Are. Giving. Their. Opinion. My. Thoughts. Were. Not. About. The. Forbes. Article. It. Was. About. The. fact. That. People. Like. You. Think. Its. Okay. to. label. Woke. on. everything. they. don't. like. because. everything. not. representing. of. them. makes. them. uncomfortable.
Got it? Great! Good talk!
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
So now you had your "last one" and I had my "last one".
Can we now get back to the... GAME?
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I guess homie heard about the curved swords! Shit the Khajiits out the bag!
ES6 is COMING...
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.
Seems like that's a no.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018