No... the only thing CIG cares about is raising funds. It's pretty evident that the game is secondary at this point. And you keep using the word costumer... Firstly, its CUSTOMER and secondly, although you use it a lot you do not appear to actually know what it means. And after all that you still couldn't simply answer YES/NO... And for the record.. I have in fact loaded Star Citizen at various points. Does the fact I found it boring, buggy and incomplete somehow in your bizarre view prevent me from being a customer?
If they only cared about raising funds and not making the best space game they wouldn't invest so much money implementing features in their game and events that allow players to experience ships for free. Anyway, ingame Raising funds is part of the process to be able to develop the game and running a live service like they want. I answered already if you care to read closely, atm you're irrelevant to them.
So... please share the breakdown of how much money they spent "implementing features". To the best of my knowledge they have never released a breakdown that says:
Chris's office cost X Cool painting cost Y 2 coders to program feature A cost Z
You know how much they raised, not how much was spent of "features" and if you THINK you know more than that you are deluding yourself.
A place I once worked was having a big dispute over which departments would get more staffing. As far as I could tell, neither department really needed it. I asked a trusted middle manager what the deal was. The reply went like this: 'For the big dogs, having a larger staff count means you are more important, and thus you have a bigger dick.'
Absolutely sure that CR has strutted around his office, going 'I'm bad! I'm bad!'
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Man, if only my post was about potential new customers who could enjoy the game and the development cycle as well as allaying concerns from current customers about the development cycle as it stands and not about games in development and feedback. It is like I was talking about money, and you're just talking about whatever makes you feel better.
The company has grown every year along with funding and new backers. They're doing alright.
So... please share the breakdown of how much money they spent "implementing features". To the best of my knowledge they have never released a breakdown that says: Chris's office cost X Cool painting cost Y 2 coders to program feature A cost Z You know how much they raised, not how much was spent of "features" and if you THINK you know more than that you are deluding yourself.
No need to breakdown, just play the game and check the art and tech present there. There's millions of dollars put into just creating/modelling the ships alone, more millions put into animating/light/sound etc. And that's not even going into the realm of the tech needed to allow for ship interiors and seamless sharing of those ships with other players (synchronized local physics grids) in different gravities and fully procedural planets without loading screens. It's tech that enables freedom of play that creates emergent moments like this:
And the toilets, don't forget them, probably a good $25M in them, don't even get me started about clouds...
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The "millions raised". How much of that actually DELIVERS something?
Sure theyre employing hundreds of people and paying them a salary (remember when THAT was an excuse...lack of employees). So they have a great cottage industry for Roberts, his family (remember when they didnt even admit when was married to his wife who was collecting a huge salary)
So Roberts and his immediate family have become millionaires over the past decade. The people they have employed have gotten a steady pay check. But how much CONTENT has that really equated to?
I would say not a whole hell of a lot. It surely hasnt delivered any sort of FINISHED product.
So even the money itself is sort of dubious insofar as it hasnt really accomplished too much but allow Roberts and his family live like rock stars and allow their employees to collect a pay check.
And ultimately THATS the biggest irony of all this. Remember THAT was the whole premise of why Roberts was doing this on his own. remember when he said every dollar he got was equal to 4 or 5 'regular' dollars given to the 'evil' mainstream developers.
So many 'memories' of shit that has been said (not said) , done (not done) over the past decade.
Only thing that is for certain is they havent made anything that can be called a game, and they have been given hundreds of millions of dollars. Which if you believed Roberts rhetoric back in the day is right around 2.5 BILLION dollars 'worth' of capital.
The "millions raised". How much of that actually DELIVERS something?
Sure theyre employing hundreds of people and paying them a salary (remember when THAT was an excuse...lack of employees). So they have a great cottage industry for Roberts, his family (remember when they didnt even admit when was married to his wife who was collecting a huge salary)
So Roberts and his immediate family have become millionaires over the past decade. The people they have employed have gotten a steady pay check. But how much CONTENT has that really equated to?
I would say not a whole hell of a lot. It surely hasnt delivered any sort of FINISHED product.
So even the money itself is sort of dubious insofar as it hasnt really accomplished too much but allow Roberts and his family live like rock stars and allow their employees to collect a pay check.
And ultimately THATS the biggest irony of all this. Remember THAT was the whole premise of why Roberts was doing this on his own. remember when he said every dollar he got was equal to 4 or 5 'regular' dollars given to the 'evil' mainstream developers.
So many 'memories' of shit that has been said (not said) , done (not done) over the past decade.
Only thing that is for certain is they havent made anything that can be called a game, and they have been given hundreds of millions of dollars. Which if you believed Roberts rhetoric back in the day is right around 2.5 BILLION dollars 'worth' of capital.
From now on I am just going to defer to whatever you have to say about anything on this forum. I find comfort knowing that you (and some others) are willing and able to describe SC and RSI accurately.
The "millions raised". How much of that actually DELIVERS something?
Sure theyre employing hundreds of people and paying them a salary (remember when THAT was an excuse...lack of employees). So they have a great cottage industry for Roberts, his family (remember when they didnt even admit when was married to his wife who was collecting a huge salary)
So Roberts and his immediate family have become millionaires over the past decade. The people they have employed have gotten a steady pay check. But how much CONTENT has that really equated to?
I would say not a whole hell of a lot. It surely hasnt delivered any sort of FINISHED product.
So even the money itself is sort of dubious insofar as it hasnt really accomplished too much but allow Roberts and his family live like rock stars and allow their employees to collect a pay check.
And ultimately THATS the biggest irony of all this. Remember THAT was the whole premise of why Roberts was doing this on his own. remember when he said every dollar he got was equal to 4 or 5 'regular' dollars given to the 'evil' mainstream developers.
So many 'memories' of shit that has been said (not said) , done (not done) over the past decade.
Only thing that is for certain is they havent made anything that can be called a game, and they have been given hundreds of millions of dollars. Which if you believed Roberts rhetoric back in the day is right around 2.5 BILLION dollars 'worth' of capital.
From now on I am just going to defer to whatever you have to say about anything on this forum. I find comfort knowing that you (and some others) are willing and able to describe SC and RSI accurately.
What about me? I'm a fountain of information. Defer to me and I swear we'll bring the forum to its knees!
The more playable the game becomes, the more money they make. The more money they Get, the saltier haters get, the saltier haters get, the more money they make! The perfect sCaM
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The more playable the game becomes, the more money they make. The more money they Get, the saltier haters get, the saltier haters get, the more money they make! The perfect sCaM
Playable is debatable. Theyre getting the bigger name Youtube and twitch guys to play it every so often and that basically highlights the disaster it is. The 'regular' streamers know where to go and not go to avoid the obvious stuff that is still bugged and broken 4 or 5 years since it was added.
But guys like Raptor, jackFrags, LevelCapGaming, (all with over a million subs on Youtube) Then a few guys with 100K Plus subs like BoredGamer and Morphologis have been releasing quite a few playthroughs and commentary lately. But its obvious who was paid and who wasnt with what they said and how they said it and how they never mention how much money Roberts has collected or how long its been in the works. They do all say its hit or miss with the bugs (because you simply cant edit enough to filter them all out) they just let the thing 'own' the bugginess.
I remember when we said it wouldnt be out in 2020, and these shills all laughed. Now it 2022 and there is still no end in sight despite the inexplicable way they continue to get money given to them.
But in their defense a dollar now is worth about 25 cents compared to what a buck was worth when they first started this shitshow. So maybe theyre at 'only' about 300 million due to inflation.....or original Roberts math of 4 or 5 to 1 1.2-1.5 billion.
No need to breakdown, just play the game and check the art and tech present there.
That is not a number.
The truth is: if it were released next month and feature complete, it is still already objectively one of the worst investments in the history of the video game industry.
My guess is it'll eventually become so unwieldy that entire systems never make it in, systems that are supposed to interact intimately won't ever work correctly, and there will never be a focused enough vision for the game's development to avoid this end. And that will make it an *even worse* investment, objectively.
The more playable the game becomes, the more money they make. The more money they Get, the saltier haters get, the saltier haters get, the more money they make! The perfect sCaM
Playable is debatable. Theyre getting the bigger name Youtube and twitch guys to play it every so often and that basically highlights the disaster it is. The 'regular' streamers know where to go and not go to avoid the obvious stuff that is still bugged and broken 4 or 5 years since it was added.
But guys like Raptor, jackFrags, LevelCapGaming, (all with over a million subs on Youtube) Then a few guys with 100K Plus subs like BoredGamer and Morphologis have been releasing quite a few playthroughs and commentary lately. But its obvious who was paid and who wasnt with what they said and how they said it and how they never mention how much money Roberts has collected or how long its been in the works. They do all say its hit or miss with the bugs (because you simply cant edit enough to filter them all out) they just let the thing 'own' the bugginess.
I remember when we said it wouldnt be out in 2020, and these shills all laughed. Now it 2022 and there is still no end in sight despite the inexplicable way they continue to get money given to them.
But in their defense a dollar now is worth about 25 cents compared to what a buck was worth when they first started this shitshow. So maybe theyre at 'only' about 300 million due to inflation.....or original Roberts math of 4 or 5 to 1 1.2-1.5 billion.
How on earth could SC afford to sponsor streams... oh wait, that OTHER thread.
You singlehandedly make me want to root against Chris and the whole project. Even though I am an Wing Commander fanatic. Even though I am a Golden Ticket holder.
You singlehandedly suck any joy from the game. I often truly ponder if you are part of some sort of deep Goonsquad false flag project.
Just FYI.
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You singlehandedly make me want to root against Chris and the whole project. Even though I am an Wing Commander fanatic. Even though I am a Golden Ticket holder.
You singlehandedly suck any joy from the game. I often truly ponder if you are part of some sort of deep Goonsquad false flag project.
Just FYI.
Whoa whoa whoa Mr. Slapshot. Disagreeing with someone is strictly prohibited here. I still love you, just want the best for you son.
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'For the big dogs, having a larger staff count means you are more important, and thus you have a bigger dick.'
Absolutely sure that CR has strutted around his office, going 'I'm bad! I'm bad!'
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Sure theyre employing hundreds of people and paying them a salary (remember when THAT was an excuse...lack of employees). So they have a great cottage industry for Roberts, his family (remember when they didnt even admit when was married to his wife who was collecting a huge salary)
So Roberts and his immediate family have become millionaires over the past decade. The people they have employed have gotten a steady pay check. But how much CONTENT has that really equated to?
I would say not a whole hell of a lot. It surely hasnt delivered any sort of FINISHED product.
So even the money itself is sort of dubious insofar as it hasnt really accomplished too much but allow Roberts and his family live like rock stars and allow their employees to collect a pay check.
And ultimately THATS the biggest irony of all this. Remember THAT was the whole premise of why Roberts was doing this on his own. remember when he said every dollar he got was equal to 4 or 5 'regular' dollars given to the 'evil' mainstream developers.
So many 'memories' of shit that has been said (not said) , done (not done) over the past decade.
Only thing that is for certain is they havent made anything that can be called a game, and they have been given hundreds of millions of dollars. Which if you believed Roberts rhetoric back in the day is right around 2.5 BILLION dollars 'worth' of capital.
The more playable the game becomes, the more money they make. The more money they Get, the saltier haters get, the saltier haters get, the more money they make!
The perfect sCaM
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
But guys like Raptor, jackFrags, LevelCapGaming, (all with over a million subs on Youtube) Then a few guys with 100K Plus subs like BoredGamer and Morphologis have been releasing quite a few playthroughs and commentary lately. But its obvious who was paid and who wasnt with what they said and how they said it and how they never mention how much money Roberts has collected or how long its been in the works. They do all say its hit or miss with the bugs (because you simply cant edit enough to filter them all out) they just let the thing 'own' the bugginess.
I remember when we said it wouldnt be out in 2020, and these shills all laughed. Now it 2022 and there is still no end in sight despite the inexplicable way they continue to get money given to them.
But in their defense a dollar now is worth about 25 cents compared to what a buck was worth when they first started this shitshow. So maybe theyre at 'only' about 300 million due to inflation.....or original Roberts math of 4 or 5 to 1 1.2-1.5 billion.
My guess is it'll eventually become so unwieldy that entire systems never make it in, systems that are supposed to interact intimately won't ever work correctly, and there will never be a focused enough vision for the game's development to avoid this end. And that will make it an *even worse* investment, objectively.
Even though I am an Wing Commander fanatic.
Even though I am a Golden Ticket holder.
You singlehandedly suck any joy from the game.
I often truly ponder if you are part of some sort of deep Goonsquad false flag project.
Just FYI.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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