Diablo IV Gets A New Trailer And Release Date At The Game Awards 2022, Coming June 6th 2023 | MMORPG

Truvidienn

I do agree that the price is steep. But I think $70 is becoming the norm now for future titles. Sony is charging that much with the PS5 games and Microsoft is going the same price starting in 2023. 

Groqstrong

At least their marketing dept is good.  This trailer did exactly what it was supposed to do, get me in my feels between the battle for good and evil and sucked me right back in.  Ugh hopefully the game can match the exellence of their trailers.

GatsuZerk

Pre-ordered instantly.

Slapshot1188

GatsuZerk said:

Pre-ordered instantly.

Why?
You can often "pre-order" closer to release and get the exact same stuff with a discount.
I just did that for Hogwarts Legacy game which doesn't release until March I think.
22% off...

Angrakhan

Talraekk said:

The 70$ price tag alone has me going I hope that's just for preorders. But I know it's not. Look at that price alone I remember back when the standard was 50. 60 was a heavy blow. But even then I mean in my head I'm going what's 70 (only 10 more) but realistically, I can't afford one triple A game a month at the current standard. I mean in my head I understand that these games cost more to produce, but in a (looking at my wallet) sense, my wallets about to tear me a few new holes. Outside of logic, I also see various things like (most games coasting or doing the bare minimum) trying to earn, and other games giving you (less than a dollar an hour of enjoyment). Then I also have this evil head game going 'if Blizzards Diablo is going to do it, they all are." FFS.....

Just be patient and get games on sale. You don't have to play this stuff at launch. Get past the artificial FOMO their marketing department conjures.

I just picked up AC Origins for 80% off. $20 for the game, all dlc, and the battle pass. Did I miss out at launch? Sure, but is the game really that different now? Actually it's probably a lot better with all the bug fixes and dlc.

Sagethorn

lahnmir said:

FrodoFragins said:

$70 for a game with tons of cosmetics and a battle pass is simply too much.  And you have to spend another $20 to get the four days early access.

The beta was pretty underwhelming as well.  I'm sure some people will eat it up, but I'm just turned off.

80 bucks for the regular, digital, version on Xbox even, insane.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

i wish it was 80 bucks

Neoyoshi

The Diablo series post-D2 has pretty much been open to all sorts of nickel-and-dime tactics at best; Battlepass this, cashshop that.

Remember back when you just bought a game and that was it? Diablo 2 Remake is probably the last true video game experience we'll ever see for this franchise.

Talraekk

Angrakhan said:

Talraekk said:

The 70$ price tag alone has me going I hope that's just for preorders. But I know it's not. Look at that price alone I remember back when the standard was 50. 60 was a heavy blow. But even then I mean in my head I'm going what's 70 (only 10 more) but realistically, I can't afford one triple A game a month at the current standard. I mean in my head I understand that these games cost more to produce, but in a (looking at my wallet) sense, my wallets about to tear me a few new holes. Outside of logic, I also see various things like (most games coasting or doing the bare minimum) trying to earn, and other games giving you (less than a dollar an hour of enjoyment). Then I also have this evil head game going 'if Blizzards Diablo is going to do it, they all are." FFS.....

Just be patient and get games on sale. You don't have to play this stuff at launch. Get past the artificial FOMO their marketing department conjures.

I just picked up AC Origins for 80% off. $20 for the game, all dlc, and the battle pass. Did I miss out at launch? Sure, but is the game really that different now? Actually it's probably a lot better with all the bug fixes and dlc.

It's not fomo, it's "I've waited for years for good Diablo, Diablo 3 barely scratched the itch, doubt I could wait longer than immediate reviews to finally (hopefully) play something decent."  Hell I currently still play Diablo 1......

Gorwe

That trailer is REALLY GOOD and, this is very important, it really reminds me of classic Diablo.

With that said, I am not exactly sold on DIV itself. Open World(Diablo does NOT NEED that), pricing(70$ and other odd artifacts), Battlepass(...), I am most likely going to wait and see with it. There's too many ???s for my liking. Funnily enough, 70$ base isn't one of them because I'd go for something more pricey as is.

Vrika

Sagethorn said:

lahnmir said:

FrodoFragins said:

$70 for a game with tons of cosmetics and a battle pass is simply too much.  And you have to spend another $20 to get the four days early access.

The beta was pretty underwhelming as well.  I'm sure some people will eat it up, but I'm just turned off.

80 bucks for the regular, digital, version on Xbox even, insane.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

i wish it was 80 bucks

The regular edition is already less than $80 for you. Why would you want them to raise its price?

Gorwe

Splattr said:

lahnmir said:

FrodoFragins said:

$70 for a game with tons of cosmetics and a battle pass is simply too much.  And you have to spend another $20 to get the four days early access.

The beta was pretty underwhelming as well.  I'm sure some people will eat it up, but I'm just turned off.

80 bucks for the regular, digital, version on Xbox even, insane.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

The cost of a movie ticket in 1996 was less than $5. The cost of Diablo in 1996 was $50. The cost of a movie ticket in 2022 is just over $9. The cost of a game is $60-$80. I'd like to still be paying $50 for a game, but given the number of hours I'll play Diablo 4, it's still a pretty good value.

This is a false argument. Because the inflation isn't the only thing that should be taken into account here. Volume of Revenue and of Playerbase has also increased DRAMATICALLY. Not to mention that the programming suites have also gotten more efficient and, overall, better. Compare C++ to C#, for example. All of this leads to more efficient production.

All in all, 70$ base price could MAYBE be excused, but anything above? Sorry, but no. Anything above 70$ for Base is pure greed. Simple as.

Kyleran

Apparently some people don't really understand what it costs to develop modern games, this article may help.

https://rocketbrush.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-a-game

Sagethorn

Vrika said:

Sagethorn said:

lahnmir said:

FrodoFragins said:

$70 for a game with tons of cosmetics and a battle pass is simply too much.  And you have to spend another $20 to get the four days early access.

The beta was pretty underwhelming as well.  I'm sure some people will eat it up, but I'm just turned off.

80 bucks for the regular, digital, version on Xbox even, insane.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

i wish it was 80 bucks

The regular edition is already less than $80 for you. Why would you want them to raise its price?

Maybe im getting old or something, but thats $20 aud higher than most new releases and pre orders. And not forgetting this is in digital format, its not like theres a box cost and manufature cost for dvd and booklets that come along with this.

$109 Aud for the basic digital version is still steeper than most new releases, normally they hover around the 89 mark.

Right now i could preorder Starwars Jedi Survivor for $79 and the new STALKER 2 Heart of Chernobyl for $89 as a box from a brick and mortar store... $109 is right up there for a digital download.

Vrika

Sagethorn said:

Vrika said:

Sagethorn said:

lahnmir said:

FrodoFragins said:

$70 for a game with tons of cosmetics and a battle pass is simply too much.  And you have to spend another $20 to get the four days early access.

The beta was pretty underwhelming as well.  I'm sure some people will eat it up, but I'm just turned off.

80 bucks for the regular, digital, version on Xbox even, insane.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

i wish it was 80 bucks

The regular edition is already less than $80 for you. Why would you want them to raise its price?

Maybe im getting old or something, but thats $20 aud higher than most new releases and pre orders. And not forgetting this is in digital format, its not like theres a box cost and manufature cost for dvd and booklets that come along with this.

$109 Aud for the basic digital version is still steeper than most new releases, normally they hover around the 89 mark.

Right now i could preorder Starwars Jedi Survivor for $79 and the new STALKER 2 Heart of Chernobyl for $89 as a box from a brick and mortar store... $109 is right up there for a digital download.

I don't know what other games cost in Australia, but 110 AUD is 75 USD. So it costs less than the 80 USD games lahnmir was talking about.

Xiaoki

Kyleran said:

Apparently some people don't really understand what it costs to develop modern games, this article may help.

https://rocketbrush.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-a-game

Some people? I highly doubt that even 5 regular posters here have any clue as to what video game development is really like.

But, why know things when you can just ignorantly spew nonsense like "this is pure greed. Simple as"

Ryukan

Blizzard jumping on the $70 base game price hike bandwagon. This is the first Diablo game I won't pre-order. I'll wait until it is on sale someday.

Slapshot1188

Xiaoki said:

Kyleran said:

Apparently some people don't really understand what it costs to develop modern games, this article may help.

https://rocketbrush.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-a-game

Some people? I highly doubt that even 5 regular posters here have any clue as to what video game development is really like.

But, why know things when you can just ignorantly spew nonsense like "this is pure greed. Simple as"

 Video games are the next human rights issue. 

OG_Solareus

Union dues aren't cheap.

Gorwe

Xiaoki said:

Kyleran said:

Apparently some people don't really understand what it costs to develop modern games, this article may help.

https://rocketbrush.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-a-game

Some people? I highly doubt that even 5 regular posters here have any clue as to what video game development is really like.

But, why know things when you can just ignorantly spew nonsense like "this is pure greed. Simple as"

Because it is. When a game makes over 6 BILLION Dollars and is somehow a "failure" that warrants cutting down hundreds of jobs...what can I say?

I don't excuse anyone. Let their deeds speak for themself. And let's try to keep a cool head to see what's truly what. Here? It is greed. And I will have nothing with propagating that idea(why? because it comes at the expense of ME, if it didn't hell would I care).

I don't have any experience with game development, but I've been a part of this circus for long enough to be able to detect certain patterns. Not only on gamedev side, btw.

Mopine

Kind of dissapointed of the new Diablo IV  In-Game Intro Cinematic 

Nilden

FrodoFragins said:

$70 for a game with tons of cosmetics and a battle pass is simply too much.  And you have to spend another $20 to get the four days early access.

The beta was pretty underwhelming as well.  I'm sure some people will eat it up, but I'm just turned off.

Compared to Diablo Immoral and spending $110,000 to gear up that's a deal LOL!

https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/

Scot

Mopine said:

Kind of dissapointed of the new Diablo IV  In-Game Intro Cinematic 

Hmm...an adbot?

Nilden

Xiaoki said:

Kyleran said:

Apparently some people don't really understand what it costs to develop modern games, this article may help.

https://rocketbrush.com/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-develop-a-game

Some people? I highly doubt that even 5 regular posters here have any clue as to what video game development is really like.

But, why know things when you can just ignorantly spew nonsense like "this is pure greed. Simple as"

I mean it's not like we had decades of these video game companies not doing predatory greedy monetization with microtransactions, battle passes, cash shops, GaaS, Pay to Win/Everything, and just selling the game at a box price... oh wait... we did.

Even better I can list games like Last Epoch, Wolcen, Grim Dawn, TitanQuest, etc that somehow managed to make a game charge a reasonable price and some dlc and not monetize it like players are just walking wallets for them to bleed dry with greed.

There is no defending Activision Blizzard after Diablo Immoral. This is an out of season April fools joke.

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Slapshot1188

templarga said:

I remember the same uproar when games went from $50 to $60 for the norm. To me, its like complaining about the cost of things like Netflix or Hulu or Disney Plus going up and then screaming for new content. Prices go up. End of story. As a consumer, you have the choice to buy it or not. Clearly, gamers find $70 to be okay because I have yet to see a case where it hurt sales.

True to an extent.  But remember, when D3 launched it was primarily sold in actual boxes, with physical discs that had to be shipped, to physical stores that had to stock it, sell it and have a retail markup (likely 50%).  Not all prices go up.  When it becomes cheaper to make an item, the company will often lower the price and share a portion of those savings with the customer.

That said, a company can always charge whatever they want for a product.  It's certainly up to the consumer to decide if it's worth the cost.  At least for non-essential things like games.

For me, I will wait and get it on sale.  Maybe even before launch.