I watched the entire stream, (rare for me) and feel the graphics while unfinished are largely acceptable, at least for me.
Combat definitely could use some improvement and I think there is far too much sitting for my liking, especially after a piddling little fight against a rabbit or snake.
Speaking of which, I know it's an old school game, but seriously, starting players "fight" and lose to rabbits, Robins and corn snakes?
I've watched videos of 8 year old children and grandmothers man handling adult cobras over in India...
They should try to keep it at least a little more realistic.....and use house cats.
I've seen single cats attacking bears, pitbulls, animal control officers, and of course their owners
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Do you really have to sit down to regain mana faster ?!?
I hope not, because thats one of the things Vanguard thankfully fixed.
This is part of the "dreaded downtime" that more fast-paced MMOs have left behind. Sounds like this game is not for you, which is cool.
What I wonder is (I have not watched the video) if the graphics are enough of an update to EQ 1 or 2. That would be one thing many old EQ players look for today. Poor? OK? Better?
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Of COURSE it's in pre-alpah. It would have been a miracle if it was anything further along than pre-alpha!
How many different ways can one say this? When you start and stop a project, any project, many times, it doesn't get finished.
Winner winner, here comes the White-Knights out from the woodwork.
So 5 mil and 8 years later and it would be a "MIRACLE" if the game with this cheezy low end graphics could even get out of pre-alpha?
LOL geez that is some seriously low expectations. If its a such a miracle why did they even start this project and take all these peoples money?
So its a miracle after 8years and 5mil if they could make it out of alpha, how much time do you expect then to get out of Alpha? 15-20? Then beta add what another 7 years? So you are going for a 35+ year dev cycle then? Will any backers still be alive?
When I invested in this, I expected to actually play the game, I didnt invest hoping my great grandkids would inherit my pledge.
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
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I guess I will be in the minority but I liked what I saw. There is a lot of potential here. I do wish the graphics were better and really I need to see what quests and the like are going to be like. However, even IF this game launches and is good I don't think its going to matter. I don't think there is a big enough audience for a game like this anymore.
I mean how many of you guys would play it IF it came out and reviewed well?
Not alone, but definitely a minority here.
Reviews don't carry much weight with me. They may give me an overall idea, but only I will decide if the game is "fun" or not. The question for me is IF it releases
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I watched the entire stream, (rare for me) and feel the graphics while unfinished are largely acceptable, at least for me.
Combat definitely could use some improvement and I think there is far too much sitting for my liking, especially after a piddling little fight against a rabbit or snake.
Speaking of which, I know it's an old school game, but seriously, starting players "fight" and lose to rabbits, Robins and corn snakes?
I've watched videos of 8 year old children and grandmothers man handling adult cobras over in India...
They should try to keep it at least a little more realistic.....and use house cats.
I've seen single cats attacking bears, pitbulls, animal control officers, and of course their owners
They're using Unity stock assets and grey boxing as placeholders. So expect a lot of visuals to change quite a bit over time. There are no goblins in Pantheon lore so I expect those to become something else entirely, for example. The focus is predominately game stability.
On the combat, I agree with you 100%. I know they want social downtime but that should be more centered on dungeon content imo. There is nothing social about soloing blue mobs.
Additionally, players should never be "fighting" rabbits or deer or any other wildlife.
That's nonsense.
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
I watched the entire stream, (rare for me) and feel the graphics while unfinished are largely acceptable, at least for me.
Combat definitely could use some improvement and I think there is far too much sitting for my liking, especially after a piddling little fight against a rabbit or snake.
Speaking of which, I know it's an old school game, but seriously, starting players "fight" and lose to rabbits, Robins and corn snakes?
I've watched videos of 8 year old children and grandmothers man handling adult cobras over in India...
They should try to keep it at least a little more realistic.....and use house cats.
I've seen single cats attacking bears, pitbulls, animal control officers, and of course their owners
You see it.... I see it.... everyone sees.... How can THEY not see it !!
It's shameful what they put out for the public after so many years of development.
The attack cat thing is the greatest thing ever, EVER !!!!!
I watched the entire stream, (rare for me) and feel the graphics while unfinished are largely acceptable, at least for me.
Combat definitely could use some improvement and I think there is far too much sitting for my liking, especially after a piddling little fight against a rabbit or snake.
Speaking of which, I know it's an old school game, but seriously, starting players "fight" and lose to rabbits, Robins and corn snakes?
I've watched videos of 8 year old children and grandmothers man handling adult cobras over in India...
They should try to keep it at least a little more realistic.....and use house cats.
I've seen single cats attacking bears, pitbulls, animal control officers, and of course their owners
You see it.... I see it.... everyone sees.... How can THEY not see it !!
It's shameful what they put out for the public after so many years of development.
The attack cat thing is the greatest thing ever, EVER !!!!!
Glad it made you smile @delete5230 and happy holidays.
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Of COURSE it's in pre-alpah. It would have been a miracle if it was anything further along than pre-alpha!
How many different ways can one say this? When you start and stop a project, any project, many times, it doesn't get finished.
Winner winner, here comes the White-Knights out from the woodwork.
So 5 mil and 8 years later and it would be a "MIRACLE" if the game with this cheezy low end graphics could even get out of pre-alpha?
LOL geez that is some seriously low expectations. If its a such a miracle why did they even start this project and take all these peoples money?
So its a miracle after 8years and 5mil if they could make it out of alpha, how much time do you expect then to get out of Alpha? 15-20? Then beta add what another 7 years? So you are going for a 35+ year dev cycle then? Will any backers still be alive?
When I invested in this, I expected to actually play the game, I didnt invest hoping my great grandkids would inherit my pledge.
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
A miracle if they could get out of pre-alpha after 8yrs?. I am sorry but thats just ridiculous. You are totally moving the goalpost into another stadium on the other side of the planet.
I will point you to DAOC 18mo dev cycle with only 2.5mil. How long do you think it took them to get out of pre-alpha? Now compare.
Keep in mind this game is STILL in pre-alpha so who knows when it will actually get to Alpha. I really hope games going multiple decades to release doesnt become to standard.
You see it.... I see it.... everyone sees.... How can THEY not see it !!
It's shameful what they put out for the public after so many years of development.
Because we look at the history of the development, we see all the problems that have happened, we know that the entire thing has been a mess with a whole host of issues and we know that all those things inhibit a project, any project, in being completed in a reasonable fashion let alone even releasing.
Do you really have to sit down to regain mana faster ?!?
I hope not, because thats one of the things Vanguard thankfully fixed.
This is part of the "dreaded downtime" that more fast-paced MMOs have left behind. Sounds like this game is not for you, which is cool.
What I wonder is (I have not watched the video) if the graphics are enough of an update to EQ 1 or 2. That would be one thing many old EQ players look for today. Poor? OK? Better?
Widescreen at a decent resolution would be good. 4K would be great.
EQ looks crap on a modern wide screen at a high resolution.
You see it.... I see it.... everyone sees.... How can THEY not see it !!
It's shameful what they put out for the public after so many years of development.
Because we look at the history of the development, we see all the problems that have happened, we know that the entire thing has been a mess with a whole host of issues and we know that all those things inhibit a project, any project, in being completed in a reasonable fashion let alone even releasing.
The attack cat thing is the greatest thing ever, EVER !!!!!
At least we agree on this!
I think this is all the downside of creating your MMO or game in the public light. Ashes of Creation gets the same hate in some circles for the same reason. Taking too long with no release date in sight. If Pantheon was announced now with the same level of announcements people may be way more receptive of it.
You see it.... I see it.... everyone sees.... How can THEY not see it !!
It's shameful what they put out for the public after so many years of development.
Because we look at the history of the development, we see all the problems that have happened, we know that the entire thing has been a mess with a whole host of issues and we know that all those things inhibit a project, any project, in being completed in a reasonable fashion let alone even releasing.
The attack cat thing is the greatest thing ever, EVER !!!!!
At least we agree on this!
I think this is all the downside of creating your MMO or game in the public light. Ashes of Creation gets the same hate in some circles for the same reason. Taking too long with no release date in sight. If Pantheon was announced now with the same level of announcements people may be way more receptive of it.
Too many studios are trying to 'develop in public'. Maybe they are thinking that its a form of being open. Really though, a game is public in order to get money, and not necessarily from professional investors. They are entirely too happy to treat customers like investors, taking all the money they can. Customers aren't getting the same benefits on their money as the pros, and there's almost no protection for the customer.
It's a major downside. Yes, people are going to criticize them for taking money without providing a product or service. No government to date has stepped in to protect the customer and their money, so there isn't really any repercussion for the company's actions. That's almost always an Open Season.
Of COURSE it's in pre-alpah. It would have been a miracle if it was anything further along than pre-alpha!
How many different ways can one say this? When you start and stop a project, any project, many times, it doesn't get finished.
Winner winner, here comes the White-Knights out from the woodwork.
So 5 mil and 8 years later and it would be a "MIRACLE" if the game with this cheezy low end graphics could even get out of pre-alpha?
LOL geez that is some seriously low expectations. If its a such a miracle why did they even start this project and take all these peoples money?
So its a miracle after 8years and 5mil if they could make it out of alpha, how much time do you expect then to get out of Alpha? 15-20? Then beta add what another 7 years? So you are going for a 35+ year dev cycle then? Will any backers still be alive?
When I invested in this, I expected to actually play the game, I didnt invest hoping my great grandkids would inherit my pledge.
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
A miracle if they could get out of pre-alpha after 8yrs?. I am sorry but thats just ridiculous. You are totally moving the goalpost into another stadium on the other side of the planet.
I will point you to DAOC 18mo dev cycle with only 2.5mil. How long do you think it took them to get out of pre-alpha? Now compare.
Keep in mind this game is STILL in pre-alpha so who knows when it will actually get to Alpha. I really hope games going multiple decades to release doesnt become to standard.
Did dark age of camelot have a troubled development where they didn't have funding, had a volunteer staff, stopped and started development several times. had the head of the company die, restructing then changed how they developed and their tools?
I think it's you who is moving goal posts.
You seem to think that all these issues lead to a continuous development process.
It was a mess. It will be a miracle if it releases.
You have this idea that time + money equals results where that is just not the case as there are other variables at work.
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Of COURSE it's in pre-alpah. It would have been a miracle if it was anything further along than pre-alpha!
How many different ways can one say this? When you start and stop a project, any project, many times, it doesn't get finished.
Winner winner, here comes the White-Knights out from the woodwork.
So 5 mil and 8 years later and it would be a "MIRACLE" if the game with this cheezy low end graphics could even get out of pre-alpha?
LOL geez that is some seriously low expectations. If its a such a miracle why did they even start this project and take all these peoples money?
So its a miracle after 8years and 5mil if they could make it out of alpha, how much time do you expect then to get out of Alpha? 15-20? Then beta add what another 7 years? So you are going for a 35+ year dev cycle then? Will any backers still be alive?
When I invested in this, I expected to actually play the game, I didnt invest hoping my great grandkids would inherit my pledge.
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
A miracle if they could get out of pre-alpha after 8yrs?. I am sorry but thats just ridiculous. You are totally moving the goalpost into another stadium on the other side of the planet.
I will point you to DAOC 18mo dev cycle with only 2.5mil. How long do you think it took them to get out of pre-alpha? Now compare.
Keep in mind this game is STILL in pre-alpha so who knows when it will actually get to Alpha. I really hope games going multiple decades to release doesnt become to standard.
Did dark age of camelot have a troubled development where they didn't have funding, had a volunteer staff, stopped and started development several times. had the head of the company die, restructing then changed how they developed and their tools?
I think it's you who is moving goal posts.
You seem to think that all these issues lead to a continuous development process.
It was a mess. It will be a miracle if it releases.
You have this idea that time + money equals results where that is just not the case as there are other variables at work.
Time + Money ≠ Quality Game, but they make that outcome a lot more likely.
Of COURSE it's in pre-alpah. It would have been a miracle if it was anything further along than pre-alpha!
How many different ways can one say this? When you start and stop a project, any project, many times, it doesn't get finished.
Winner winner, here comes the White-Knights out from the woodwork.
So 5 mil and 8 years later and it would be a "MIRACLE" if the game with this cheezy low end graphics could even get out of pre-alpha?
LOL geez that is some seriously low expectations. If its a such a miracle why did they even start this project and take all these peoples money?
So its a miracle after 8years and 5mil if they could make it out of alpha, how much time do you expect then to get out of Alpha? 15-20? Then beta add what another 7 years? So you are going for a 35+ year dev cycle then? Will any backers still be alive?
When I invested in this, I expected to actually play the game, I didnt invest hoping my great grandkids would inherit my pledge.
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
A miracle if they could get out of pre-alpha after 8yrs?. I am sorry but thats just ridiculous. You are totally moving the goalpost into another stadium on the other side of the planet.
I will point you to DAOC 18mo dev cycle with only 2.5mil. How long do you think it took them to get out of pre-alpha? Now compare.
Keep in mind this game is STILL in pre-alpha so who knows when it will actually get to Alpha. I really hope games going multiple decades to release doesnt become to standard.
Did dark age of camelot have a troubled development where they didn't have funding, had a volunteer staff, stopped and started development several times. had the head of the company die, restructing then changed how they developed and their tools?
I think it's you who is moving goal posts.
You seem to think that all these issues lead to a continuous development process.
It was a mess. It will be a miracle if it releases.
You have this idea that time + money equals results where that is just not the case as there are other variables at work.
Time + Money ≠ Quality Game, but they make that outcome a lot more likely.
This was a studio with a quality vision but no leadership that knew how to get there. They failed on the way and had to restart more then once. The team has learned what they need to do and have made some smart hires. To the point they have created some unique tech that is helping them do more work with less resources. If I remember right, they have sold this tech to fund the game. The real work only started about 2 years ago roughly. FOllow the game, dont follow. If they make a good game in the end, people will play it.
Additionally, players should never be "fighting" rabbits or deer or any other wildlife.
That's nonsense.
Not really nonsense if you are fighting to feed them yourself. Or skinning for leatherwork profession..
In New World you actually do have to chase and "fight" some of the larger herbivores, in some zones the deer and buffalo run players over like a freight train.
A couple of elites can actually kill you especially if you are under level.
But the most vexing are...the goats in Brimstone Sands and other higher level zones.
Little bastards will run up behind a player, butting them to the ground in mid fight, while running down a road or even right off the edge of a cliff.
I now kill any goat I see with extreme prejudice, even though they are next to worthless in terms of crafting materials.
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Of COURSE it's in pre-alpah. It would have been a miracle if it was anything further along than pre-alpha!
How many different ways can one say this? When you start and stop a project, any project, many times, it doesn't get finished.
Winner winner, here comes the White-Knights out from the woodwork.
So 5 mil and 8 years later and it would be a "MIRACLE" if the game with this cheezy low end graphics could even get out of pre-alpha?
LOL geez that is some seriously low expectations. If its a such a miracle why did they even start this project and take all these peoples money?
So its a miracle after 8years and 5mil if they could make it out of alpha, how much time do you expect then to get out of Alpha? 15-20? Then beta add what another 7 years? So you are going for a 35+ year dev cycle then? Will any backers still be alive?
When I invested in this, I expected to actually play the game, I didnt invest hoping my great grandkids would inherit my pledge.
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
A miracle if they could get out of pre-alpha after 8yrs?. I am sorry but thats just ridiculous. You are totally moving the goalpost into another stadium on the other side of the planet.
I will point you to DAOC 18mo dev cycle with only 2.5mil. How long do you think it took them to get out of pre-alpha? Now compare.
Keep in mind this game is STILL in pre-alpha so who knows when it will actually get to Alpha. I really hope games going multiple decades to release doesnt become to standard.
Did dark age of camelot have a troubled development where they didn't have funding, had a volunteer staff, stopped and started development several times. had the head of the company die, restructing then changed how they developed and their tools?
I think it's you who is moving goal posts.
You seem to think that all these issues lead to a continuous development process.
It was a mess. It will be a miracle if it releases.
You have this idea that time + money equals results where that is just not the case as there are other variables at work.
Time + Money ≠ Quality Game, but they make that outcome a lot more likely.
Star Citizen has been going for 10 years or so and they aren't finished.
Time + Money + solid development plan + good project management + experienced staff makes a good outcome more likely.
You pointed out some exceptions, which is why I said it is "more likely" not "certain". Then you added some extra factors that I don't disagree with, so I agree.
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Combat definitely could use some improvement and I think there is far too much sitting for my liking, especially after a piddling little fight against a rabbit or snake.
Speaking of which, I know it's an old school game, but seriously, starting players "fight" and lose to rabbits, Robins and corn snakes?
I've watched videos of 8 year old children and grandmothers man handling adult cobras over in India...
They should try to keep it at least a little more realistic.....and use house cats.
I've seen single cats attacking bears, pitbulls, animal control officers, and of course their owners
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
There's nothing "white knight" about stating what is already known.
5 million and 8 years later with continual development would be beyond ridiculous if they couldn't get to a finished game.
5 million and 8 years later with continual stops, starts, changing out the team, needing more money ... why would it be close to finished?
Where's the thinking?
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
That's nonsense.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
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- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Except for snakes. Gotta have kicking snakes.
It's shameful what they put out for the public after so many years of development.
The attack cat thing is the greatest thing ever, EVER !!!!!
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and Amazon can just pay people to say its a great game......Pantheon can barely pay anyone.
A miracle if they could get out of pre-alpha after 8yrs?. I am sorry but thats just ridiculous. You are totally moving the goalpost into another stadium on the other side of the planet.
I will point you to DAOC 18mo dev cycle with only 2.5mil. How long do you think it took them to get out of pre-alpha? Now compare.
Keep in mind this game is STILL in pre-alpha so who knows when it will actually get to Alpha. I really hope games going multiple decades to release doesnt become to standard.
We call it "thinking." You call it "maize."
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I think it's you who is moving goal posts.
You seem to think that all these issues lead to a continuous development process.
It was a mess. It will be a miracle if it releases.
You have this idea that time + money equals results where that is just not the case as there are other variables at work.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Star Citizen has been going for 10 years or so and they aren't finished.
Time + Money + solid development plan + good project management + experienced staff makes a good outcome more likely.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
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A couple of elites can actually kill you especially if you are under level.
But the most vexing are...the goats in Brimstone Sands and other higher level zones.
Little bastards will run up behind a player, butting them to the ground in mid fight, while running down a road or even right off the edge of a cliff.
I now kill any goat I see with extreme prejudice, even though they are next to worthless in terms of crafting materials.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
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