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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    @Kyleran did you do the Brimstone quest where you have to jump on pillars full of goats yet ?
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    @Kyleran did you do the Brimstone quest where you have to jump on pillars full of goats yet ?
    Scowl, yes..I loath and suck at doing jumping puzzles and those damn goats butted me off the pillars twice that night.

    They've been slaughtered mercilessly ever since.


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  • EldrachEldrach Member RarePosts: 461
    I mean, i expected Everquest 1 with a little upgraded graphics - and..it looks like Everquest 1 with slightly better graphics…totally fine with me
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Tokken said:
    Sovrath said:
    achesoma said:
     There is nothing social about soloing blue mobs.
    Additionally, players should never be "fighting" rabbits or deer or any other wildlife. 

    That's nonsense.
    Not really nonsense if you are fighting to feed them yourself.  Or skinning for leatherwork profession..
    what I think should be done in that case is that you "kill them" not fight them.

    An example is in Skyrim where you can kill deer and rabbits and foxes but you don't "fight them."

    Additionally, they would probably flee. Even a wolf that was hurt would flee. Too often in these games they fight you to the death. Morrowind had a similar issue where small critters would attack you and different critters would all attack you at the same time.

    You could have a cliff racer, a rat, a worm looking thing whosenameIforget, and a daedra all attacking you if you were unlucky.

    Just silliness.




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  • BrainyBrainy Member EpicPosts: 2,163
    Nanfoodle said:
    This was a studio with a quality vision but no leadership that knew how to get there. They failed on the way and had to restart more then once. The team has learned what they need to do and have made some smart hires. To the point they have created some unique tech that is helping them do more work with less resources. If I remember right, they have sold this tech to fund the game. The real work only started about 2 years ago roughly. FOllow the game, dont follow. If they make a good game in the end, people will play it. 

    I find this funny how you say the game just started 2 years ago.  Yet you were on here back then and BEFORE #1 fanboy saying how this game was making massive progress and would be in alpha that year at least.  Then you rolled the same stuff out the next year, and the next.

    So did you know back then the game had just started when you were spouting off all the BS or is that some new revelation?

    I am pretty sure you were basing most of your info off the complete BS the company was putting out back then.  Tons of people were saying how everything was BS but of course the FANBOYS were in denial, because they were following the progress closely and believed everything they were told (so they say).

    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?

    After watching the last video, I can see this game has NO VISION, the person with the "quality" vision died it seems.  The people left are just wasting time trying to keep their jobs.  Imagine releasing what you seen on video in 5+ years from now, how is that going to play with the new generation?  A complete dumpster fire is what I see.  There is a reason they have been afraid to move it to Alpha all these years, and they are 100% right to be afraid of the response.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 
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  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,644
    Correction LOL

    Not really nonsense if you are killing them to feed yourself.  Or skinning for leatherwork profession..
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



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  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    I agree they miss their mark with EQ1 players ONLY BECAUSE THEIR MAKING AN OLD CRAPY VERSION OF IT !... piss poor graphics, piss poor, performance. Heck I'll bet the coding is awful if the public got there hands on it.

    Thease developers should be in jail for the money they took from people. 
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    edited December 2022
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown
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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    Kyleran said:
    @Kyleran did you do the Brimstone quest where you have to jump on pillars full of goats yet ?
    Scowl, yes..I loath and suck at doing jumping puzzles and those damn goats butted me off the pillars twice that night.

    They've been slaughtered mercilessly ever since.

    And so you've also killed the king of goats ? ;)
    He drops a few nice items that can be ugraded to Legendary btw.
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Nanfoodle said:
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown

    If Daybreak makes a new EQ *and* it beats Pantheon to the market, Pantheon might as well close their doors.  Survival is still a bit iffy even if Pantheon makes it to market before a new EQ, but I guess that's now their new window of opportunity.



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  • giantessfangiantessfan Member UncommonPosts: 185
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown

    If Daybreak makes a new EQ *and* it beats Pantheon to the market, Pantheon might as well close their doors.  Survival is still a bit iffy even if Pantheon makes it to market before a new EQ, but I guess that's now their new window of opportunity.



    It depends on what a new EQ is like. I would imagine that there is no shot in hell that it plays like EQ 1 which is what people backing Pantheon want. My guess would be its another WoW clone or its action combat
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown

    If Daybreak makes a new EQ *and* it beats Pantheon to the market, Pantheon might as well close their doors.  Survival is still a bit iffy even if Pantheon makes it to market before a new EQ, but I guess that's now their new window of opportunity.



    It depends on what a new EQ is like. I would imagine that there is no shot in hell that it plays like EQ 1 which is what people backing Pantheon want. My guess would be its another WoW clone or its action combat
    That's true, it's sort of like the people clamoring for a new "Lineage 2."

    I bet many are thinking "original lineage 2" but just upgraded graphics and quality of life choices as well as modern controls. However, if they were ever to make another Lineage game I suspect it would not pay like the original Lineage 2 (let alone the original Lineage.)
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  • SensaiSensai Member UncommonPosts: 222
    Nanfoodle said:
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown
    While I generally agree with the sentiment,  I'm not sure Daybreak is a better bet as the chance of them developing anything decent is quite low.  I think even "a little bit good" may be  a stretch for Daybreak.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Sensai said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown
    While I generally agree with the sentiment,  I'm not sure Daybreak is a better bet as the chance of them developing anything decent is quite low.  I think even "a little bit good" may be  a stretch for Daybreak.
    Daybreak, formally SoE has made some quality games and the pairing of Daybreak is with a new studio making EQ3. I would not count them out as much as many hate the bull tied to them in the past. As an EQ fan, I speak for myself. If the game is anything quality and has the lore and races I love from EQ1, I would pick the real EQ lore. This new EQ MMO could have been in production since 2019 from the rumor mill. I dont want to see Patheon and EQ3 launch within a close window. Could turn out badly for VR. Or even for EQ3. 
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Nanfoodle said:
    Sensai said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Mendel said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    Brainy said:


    If they make a good game, people will play it ....  yeah I have heard that before, good to who?  How many?  After a couple of months are we talking a few hundred or a few hundred thousand players?


    No clue, I have stopped following this game for the most part. Again you replied to my post with venom when all I have done is quote what the dev team has said. As I have done so many times in the past. Agree with it or not is no skin off my nose. IMO Pantheon have missed their target. With games like Throne and Liberty, Ashes, Riot Games putting their two cents in, Soulframe are going to eat too much into the pool to make the questions you ask to matter.

    If Patheon ever launches and its good. It will be played. Will they have a fan base that will make it worth while. Im not sure. I said about a year ago, the Pantheon team put their foot down and said they needed to be relevant in their launch and needed a big investor to make that happen. Project Faerthale did not bring in the whale they said they needed to make this game in a timely manner. 

    For me as a gamer longing to see this type of game become playable. It saddens me. Unlike many on this forum. I never hope a game fails or will spit hate towards a fan base. But I have made peace with the fact, many are here just to chuck shade at just about any game. My guess it makes them feel good. I will always take a dev word as fact about the game they are making, not someone chucking shade. Till that word is no longer relevant. Thats when I wish the dev team best wishes and move on. 

    I think Pantheon missed its window of opportunity.  I believe that the EQ1 player base they were depending on so much is dwindling each year.  I just don't see the 'old school' game play as appealing to those raised on Mario and Sonic.  Heck, even that crowd is entering their 40s now.  Maybe if they could have hit it out of the park and landed something in the 2017-18 time frame, there might have been some hope.

    Those of us that played EQ1 at its height are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the gaming population each year.  Hanging a game's future hopes (and prosperity) on this aging segment seems less viable every year.  Eventually, the 'old school' moniker will reference Metal Gear Solid, Stardew Valley, and Pokemon.



    Also Daybreak I think a year or two ago they dropped they are making a new EQ title. Pantheon would need to be established before that title dropped. If this new EQ title is a little bit good, EQ fans would go back just for the lore alone.  

    New Everquest game is in development under fresh studio | TweakTown
    While I generally agree with the sentiment,  I'm not sure Daybreak is a better bet as the chance of them developing anything decent is quite low.  I think even "a little bit good" may be  a stretch for Daybreak.
    Daybreak, formally SoE has made some quality games and the pairing of Daybreak is with a new studio making EQ3. I would not count them out as much as many hate the bull tied to them in the past. As an EQ fan, I speak for myself. If the game is anything quality and has the lore and races I love from EQ1, I would pick the real EQ lore. This new EQ MMO could have been in production since 2019 from the rumor mill. I dont want to see Patheon and EQ3 launch within a close window. Could turn out badly for VR. Or even for EQ3. 

    I don't know specifically, but I suspect this 'new studio' is another internal studio, like Darkpaw.  What I'm not interested in is another 'version' of the game like EQ2 is/was to EQ1.  Daybreak has been pretty capable of putting out some quality expansions for EQ1/2 on a fairly consistent basis.

    The part I'm concerned most about is a new engine. My guess is that this new studio is tasked with building a new client and interface, and a server side with robust network code that will improve on the EQ1 back-end.

    Art work, sound, game play, stories, levels, classes, and the like I'll trust Daybreak to develop those.  They've got a pretty proven track record there.



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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Kyleran said:
    @Kyleran did you do the Brimstone quest where you have to jump on pillars full of goats yet ?
    Scowl, yes..I loath and suck at doing jumping puzzles and those damn goats butted me off the pillars twice that night.

    They've been slaughtered mercilessly ever since.

    And so you've also killed the king of goats ? ;)
    He drops a few nice items that can be ugraded to Legendary btw.
    Wut?  There is a goat king?

    Definitely being put on the hit list....

    ;)
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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    edited December 2022
    It depends on what a new EQ is like... 
    EQ1 was a huge part of my life back in the day but having tried to get back into it 3 or 4 years ago for the nostalgia feels, it looked and played like crap.  Why would I want a "new" version that plays like that?  I already own EQ1 and frankly I'm never going to play it - or a game made to mirror it - ever again.  It was great back then, but time, tastes and processing power have all changed.

    I'm an old guy now and, trust me, nostalgia is overrated.  These days if a game dev describe their game as "old school" it's just a cop-out that means "a new game with piss-poor play and inferior graphics because we're too lazy to exert ourselves".  I own a pretty powerful gaming rig and I want games to make use of all that processing power and I do NOT want a game that looks like it belongs on a Windows 95/98 PC.  
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Dibdabs said:

    I'm an old guy now and, trust me, nostalgia is overrated.  These days if a game dev describe their game as "old school" it's just a cop-out that means "a new game with piss-poor play and inferior graphics because we're too lazy to exert ourselves".

    Hmmm people say this but it completely discount what other people think.

    I would agree, that for me modern controls are important. But these games still have a lot of merit.

    I dip into Hexen from time to time and played Vanguard Saga of Heroes last night.

    I play these because they are good games. Same with Daggerfall.

    Not to say I don't love modern games that push the limit, I do. But as a "middle age guy" (how hold are you? I see gamers say they are old and they are in their 40's which doesn't speak well to how they take care of themselves in my opinion) I can understand and accept old games for what they truly offer and still look forward to games that push the envelope.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited December 2022
    Sovrath said:
    Dibdabs said:

    I'm an old guy now and, trust me, nostalgia is overrated.  These days if a game dev describe their game as "old school" it's just a cop-out that means "a new game with piss-poor play and inferior graphics because we're too lazy to exert ourselves".

    Hmmm people say this but it completely discount what other people think.

    I would agree, that for me modern controls are important. But these games still have a lot of merit.

    I dip into Hexen from time to time and played Vanguard Saga of Heroes last night.

    I play these because they are good games. Same with Daggerfall.

    Not to say I don't love modern games that push the limit, I do. But as a "middle age guy" (how hold are you? I see gamers say they are old and they are in their 40's which doesn't speak well to how they take care of themselves in my opinion) I can understand and accept old games for what they truly offer and still look forward to games that push the envelope.


    I'm an "older" gamer, 65 years young.

    Heading out for a 3 mile run, can't outrun death without good cardio.  :)

    Still, older games don't hold much appeal for me as I'm "finished" with them and there are so many games I'll never live long enough to play, so I try to go forward rather than looking back.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Kyleran said:

    I'm an "older" gamer, 65 years young.

    Heading out for a 3 mile run, can't outrun death without good cardio.  :)


    Run Forest Run!

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Dibdabs said:
    It depends on what a new EQ is like... 
    EQ1 was a huge part of my life back in the day but having tried to get back into it 3 or 4 years ago for the nostalgia feels, it looked and played like crap.  Why would I want a "new" version that plays like that?  I already own EQ1 and frankly I'm never going to play it - or a game made to mirror it - ever again.  It was great back then, but time, tastes and processing power have all changed.

    I'm an old guy now and, trust me, nostalgia is overrated.  These days if a game dev describe their game as "old school" it's just a cop-out that means "a new game with piss-poor play and inferior graphics because we're too lazy to exert ourselves".  I own a pretty powerful gaming rig and I want games to make use of all that processing power and I do NOT want a game that looks like it belongs on a Windows 95/98 PC.  
    I agree and I don't as well. I love modern systems but I am tried of twitch combat. It's over done IMO. I'm also tired of every class is a hybrid of healer/tank/DPS. I miss unbalanced classes that needed to rely team dynamics to accomplish things like dungeons. I don't even mind if every class can spec a few rolls but play a role and be a master of that. That's something I think modern games are missing. 
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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    Sovrath said:

    Not to say I don't love modern games that push the limit, I do. But as a "middle age guy" (how hold are you? I see gamers say they are old and they are in their 40's which doesn't speak well to how they take care of themselves in my opinion)
    WELL past middle age.  I consider people in their 40's to be young!  :)  I still hit the gym two or three times a week and weight about 175lbs though which is ok for a man of my height.  I can wear 34" waist trousers and jeans, which isn't too bad.
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  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    Kyleran said:
    I'm an "older" gamer, 65 years young.

    Heading out for a 3 mile run, can't outrun death without good cardio.  :)

    Still, older games don't hold much appeal for me as I'm "finished" with them and there are so many games I'll never live long enough to play, so I try to go forward rather than looking back.

    I'm slightly older than you by a few years and I agree about cardio 100%, especially as it got me through a couple of heart attacks in the last few years.  I've been discharged from coronary care for about a year now because, thanks to the gym, my heart is JUST inside normal operation levels and last time they scanned there was no signs of heart disease.  I am also 100% certain that keeping fit and keeping my weight down saved my life.  The coronary unit told me as such, and pointed out that there were no fat people on the ward because fat people didn't often survive heart attacks.  They were right... no fat people on the ward amongst the recovering patients.  Some were a little on the stocky side but you couldn't really call them fat.

    As for the games, as you say older games hold no appeal.  Like you I was there when they were new, and (for the time) state of the art graphics-wise.  I have no desire to go back either.  Been there and I'm done.
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