UI certainly reminds me of minimalist KMMOs. I bet you this one is going to be PvP centric, rely heavily on either 100% daily participation in the game or spending boatloads of cash. The world lore will be sparse and meaningless, the story will be basic and irrelevant, and the game will just not have a really good adventure feel to it. Add to it the gameplay itself will be all flash, no substance.
Kingdom Heroes was probably the last enjoyable experience I got out of a Chinese or Korean F2P MMO. But a lot of that was probably due to being younger, and the extremely tight knit community built around it.
UI certainly reminds me of minimalist KMMOs. I bet you this one is going to be PvP centric, rely heavily on either 100% daily participation in the game or spending boatloads of cash. The world lore will be sparse and meaningless, the story will be basic and irrelevant, and the game will just not have a really good adventure feel to it. Add to it the gameplay itself will be all flash, no substance.
Kingdom Heroes was probably the last enjoyable experience I got out of a Chinese or Korean F2P MMO. But a lot of that was probably due to being younger, and the extremely tight knit community built around it.
I had to search up what "kingdom hero's" was, and oh my god. I can't believe i forgot about that game. Though to be honest it doesnt look all that polished and auto route mechanics make for not the greatest of games. I also remember playing Silk road as well. I thought that game was pretty ground breaking, especially since it was next to impossible to get in seeing as there was always a queue for it.
I'm sure this game will be like those but with a black dessert online feel to it, with the fancier graphics, boob physics, and "better" auto routing.
I stopped reading at the first word. I looked at the screenshots and visuals look good. But for Asian MMO's thats typically the case. That being said I've never played an Asian MMO that has been worth a grain of salt. Overly grindy, a million currencies, requirements to log in daily, pay to win, forced open world pvp with the worst rulesets. What can I say everything other than visuals on Asian MMO's I typically detest. Until I hear more about this game and it's systems, I don't care about it.
From what I've read Bellatores seems to be what New World wanted to be. If they don''t monetize the shit out of it .... sigh yes of course they will, it just might be a fun game.
One of those 'have to wait and see' I've finally learned not to follow the 'shiny' I went to their website and it was pretty..completely devoid of useful info for me. Wait and see.
"This considerable investment signals a strong vote of confidence in NYOU and the potential of Bellatores to become an exciting prospect in the MMO market."
Actually, all it signals is that the money people who see games as nothing but front ends for extracting obscene profit from a portion of the population they consider easy to scam and abuse, i.e. "gamers," see this as an opportunity to do that.
It would take a lot more than the money people being interested to make it an "exciting prospect" for gamers.
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The Article has almost no information in it at all. Lots of "people are saying" and "gamers are excited", but nothing about the actual game. Is PvP open world? Optional? Does it have crafting? How is it monetized? Does it have dungeons? World bosses?
Nothing in the article about any of that.
As always, I'll wait 6 months to a year after it releases and read the reviews.
Another Korean MMO, and everything that's likely to bring. *sigh*.
At least you have to give the Korean developers credit for not entirely abandoning the genre, despite occasional ideas that just don't register with Western audiences.
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The Article has almost no information in it at all. Lots of "people are saying" and "gamers are excited", but nothing about the actual game. Is PvP open world? Optional? Does it have crafting? How is it monetized? Does it have dungeons? World bosses?
Nothing in the article about any of that.
As always, I'll wait 6 months to a year after it releases and read the reviews.
Part of the issue is that the website has nothing. When I clicked on one of the images, and one that looked like it was a video, it brought me to the same website page!
The game looks beautiful but they really need to do better about how they present it.
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The Article has almost no information in it at all. Lots of "people are saying" and "gamers are excited", but nothing about the actual game. Is PvP open world? Optional? Does it have crafting? How is it monetized? Does it have dungeons? World bosses?
Nothing in the article about any of that.
As always, I'll wait 6 months to a year after it releases and read the reviews.
Part of the issue is that the website has nothing. When I clicked on one of the images, and one that looked like it was a video, it brought me to the same website page!
The game looks beautiful but they really need to do better about how they present it.
Yeah it looks like the article has about as much information as the site and discord combined.
"This considerable investment signals a strong vote of confidence in NYOU and the potential of Bellatores to become an exciting prospect in the MMO market."
Actually, all it signals is that the money people who see games as nothing but front ends for extracting obscene profit from a portion of the population they consider easy to scam and abuse, i.e. "gamers," see this as an opportunity to do that.
It would take a lot more than the money people being interested to make it an "exciting prospect" for gamers.
I would say that epic games investing in a game seems to be a good indicator, though, it's hard to say what a good game budget is these days.
Its somewhere around 75 million dollars? That sounds like more than enough to build a game... but I would hope that with that much money invested, they could do more with their website.
"This considerable investment signals a strong vote of confidence in NYOU and the potential of Bellatores to become an exciting prospect in the MMO market."
Actually, all it signals is that the money people who see games as nothing but front ends for extracting obscene profit from a portion of the population they consider easy to scam and abuse, i.e. "gamers," see this as an opportunity to do that.
It would take a lot more than the money people being interested to make it an "exciting prospect" for gamers.
I would say that epic games investing in a game seems to be a good indicator, though, it's hard to say what a good game budget is these days.
It is still only an indicator that Epic Games saw an investment opportunity and that is nothing for gamers to be excited about.
If game developer "x" with pedigree "y" is developing a game that would be much more reasonable for gamers to be interested although several notorious KS projects with celebrity developer names attached to them have shown that some of that excitement is also not warranted.
But investors investing? Why the fuck should we care in this day and age when they have shown themselves to be after nothing but easy money. There's no correlation between investors salivating and a good game for us to play... none whatsoever.
It's also why I found that current NFT gaming promoting post about the Activision COO going to some crypto gaming company with "follow the money" in the title laughable.
So a guy who was COO at Activishion for 2 years quits for a better offer from some crypto gaming outfit... who gives a shit? It's a suit who could just as easily have been a COO at Burger King for all of his game creation involvement... "follow the money" to what exactly? To a PR stunt attempting to legitimize some crypto "gaming" stuff?
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
"This considerable investment signals a strong vote of confidence in NYOU and the potential of Bellatores to become an exciting prospect in the MMO market."
Actually, all it signals is that the money people who see games as nothing but front ends for extracting obscene profit from a portion of the population they consider easy to scam and abuse, i.e. "gamers," see this as an opportunity to do that.
It would take a lot more than the money people being interested to make it an "exciting prospect" for gamers.
I would say that epic games investing in a game seems to be a good indicator, though, it's hard to say what a good game budget is these days.
It is still only an indicator that Epic Games saw an investment opportunity and that is nothing for gamers to be excited about.
If game developer "x" with pedigree "y" is developing a game that would be much more reasonable for gamers to be interested although several notorious KS projects with celebrity developer names attached to them have shown that some of that excitement is also not warranted.
But investors investing? Why the fuck should we care in this day and age when they have shown themselves to be after nothing but easy money. There's no correlation between investors salivating and a good game for us to play... none whatsoever.
It's also why I found that current NFT gaming promoting post about the Activision COO going to some crypto gaming company with "follow the money" in the title laughable.
So a guy who was COO at Activishion for 2 years quits for a better offer from some crypto gaming outfit... who gives a shit? It's a suit who could just as easily have been a COO at Burger King for all of his game creation involvement... "follow the money" to what exactly? To a PR stunt attempting to legitimize some crypto "gaming" stuff?
Not going to talk about Yuga labs here. TBF there have been a lot of gaming industry guys headed to blockchain projects, but I'm not going to be pulled into my unfavorable view of yugalabs right now, which is why I didn't join that thread.
But, I will say that investors aren't often in business of losing money. I mean... they are, but... they don't go out of their way specifically to lose money.
Epic games certainly has invested in some losers over the years, and I can't really say that a korean MMO is the most sound investment, seeing as how many korean MMOs have shut down, and a PvP focused survival type game doesn't sound like a great investment at all....
It's not something to be excited about, sure, I wouldn't say it's not an "exciting prospect" though. That's purely personal opinion.
The Article has almost no information in it at all. Lots of "people are saying" and "gamers are excited", but nothing about the actual game. Is PvP open world? Optional? Does it have crafting? How is it monetized? Does it have dungeons? World bosses?
Nothing in the article about any of that.
As always, I'll wait 6 months to a year after it releases and read the reviews.
Part of the issue is that the website has nothing. When I clicked on one of the images, and one that looked like it was a video, it brought me to the same website page!
The game looks beautiful but they really need to do better about how they present it.
Quiet you two, just grab some popcorn, sit back and stare at all of the pretty visuals....
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The less information available even on the website itself could also indicate that there isn't enough of a game there yet to display more information, if they are not promoting various game features with examples etc. then it likely means they don't exist yet. Inferred content in the form of hearsay or anecdotal etc. about 'gamers being excited' or whatever, are sadly just that and could be misleading as to actual game content. I would hazard that the game is in very early stages of production and will likely be years away from release, so they cannot explicitly state what the actual content is in the game yet, because they have yet to 'nail down' what the game will ultimately be, i am sure we are all well aware of how much games can change while in development. I think the game will likely be worth keeping an ear to the ground on, i am a fan of BDO after all, so will wait for more information about the game to be released. I would not expect to hear all that much more about it this year though.
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Kingdom Heroes was probably the last enjoyable experience I got out of a Chinese or Korean F2P MMO. But a lot of that was probably due to being younger, and the extremely tight knit community built around it.
I had to search up what "kingdom hero's" was, and oh my god. I can't believe i forgot about that game. Though to be honest it doesnt look all that polished and auto route mechanics make for not the greatest of games. I also remember playing Silk road as well. I thought that game was pretty ground breaking, especially since it was next to impossible to get in seeing as there was always a queue for it.
I'm sure this game will be like those but with a black dessert online feel to it, with the fancier graphics, boob physics, and "better" auto routing.
Actually, all it signals is that the money people who see games as nothing but front ends for extracting obscene profit from a portion of the population they consider easy to scam and abuse, i.e. "gamers," see this as an opportunity to do that.
It would take a lot more than the money people being interested to make it an "exciting prospect" for gamers.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Nothing in the article about any of that.
As always, I'll wait 6 months to a year after it releases and read the reviews.
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The game looks beautiful but they really need to do better about how they present it.
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I would say that epic games investing in a game seems to be a good indicator, though, it's hard to say what a good game budget is these days.
Its somewhere around 75 million dollars? That sounds like more than enough to build a game... but I would hope that with that much money invested, they could do more with their website.
If game developer "x" with pedigree "y" is developing a game that would be much more reasonable for gamers to be interested although several notorious KS projects with celebrity developer names attached to them have shown that some of that excitement is also not warranted.
But investors investing? Why the fuck should we care in this day and age when they have shown themselves to be after nothing but easy money. There's no correlation between investors salivating and a good game for us to play... none whatsoever.
It's also why I found that current NFT gaming promoting post about the Activision COO going to some crypto gaming company with "follow the money" in the title laughable.
So a guy who was COO at Activishion for 2 years quits for a better offer from some crypto gaming outfit... who gives a shit? It's a suit who could just as easily have been a COO at Burger King for all of his game creation involvement... "follow the money" to what exactly? To a PR stunt attempting to legitimize some crypto "gaming" stuff?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
But, I will say that investors aren't often in business of losing money. I mean... they are, but... they don't go out of their way specifically to lose money.
Epic games certainly has invested in some losers over the years, and I can't really say that a korean MMO is the most sound investment, seeing as how many korean MMOs have shut down, and a PvP focused survival type game doesn't sound like a great investment at all....
It's not something to be excited about, sure, I wouldn't say it's not an "exciting prospect" though. That's purely personal opinion.
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