On the subject of The Rings of Power, im one of those who didn't make it to the end, despite being a huge LotR fan.
Whilst I did find the virtue signalling / wokeness a bit annoying, it was nowhere near as bad as others thought. Likewise with their treatment of the lore: yeh, they did a bad job, but I'm willing to forgive that if the end product is still good (in the same way I did with Peter Jackson's films).
The two main reasons I didn't make it to the end of RoP:
1) I didn't like any of the characters!!!!
This really is the most important thing for me. I didn't find a single character likeable! I didn't care what happened to any of them! The elves were pretentious, the numenoreans arrogant, the middle earth humans were scum. The closest I got to liking someone was the dwarves.....but the dwarves were still worse than LotR or The Hobbit films.
2) Episodic Release Schedule
I started going on-demand about 11 years ago, and fully switched 8 years ago. I don't do live TV, I don't do adverts. I live in a world where I can easily avoid both.
So, when a new series drops, I want it all available, right now, so I can watch it on my own terms. Typically, I want to binge watch it over a day or two for a short series like this.
When Amazon insists on a weekly release schedule, it puts a lot of pressure on the show to hold my interest for weeks at a time, which means it needs to be damn good. RoP wasn't good enough to hold my interest week-to-week.
In the past (when we only had like 5 channels to watch), holding interest was much easier. The lack of choice made the good stuff stand out, plus we'd end up chatting with our school friends / colleagues / family about the show during the week. In this day and age, that rarely happens.
As for complaints about LotRO and how Turbine treated the lore, well, yeh, people complained a bunch back in the day. We / they just did it via official forums, where the people in charge can actually read our complaints and respond to them, rather than going elsewhere like here, reddit (didn't exist back then), facebook (barely launched back then) or twitter (didn't exist back then).
But, that said, LotRO gets a relatively free pass because it is the best Lord of the Rings game ever built! It is larger, deeper, and more respectful of the lore than any other game made. So, whilst it definitely has problems, it still sits at the top of the pack.
RoP and Amazon's new MMO don't have the same luxury. I think we'd all forgive RoP for the lore violations if it had been outstanding, but it wasn't. Likewise, I'm sure we'll forgive the new MMO some lore violations if it's amazing, but it's unlikely that it'll be amazing.
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There are several shows on Netflix, Prims, and HBO Max that I like which I haven't finished. I might get around to them or not but that doesn't mean I don't think they're good or worth watching.
With shows I think are superb? Yeah, I consume those to the very end ASAP and sometimes go back and rewatch them. Rings of Power was not superb - 71% is about right IMO. The 2,9 from the mob isn't. That's just bombing for many reasons and it's a score that is full of shit.
Oh I hate it when peeps flat out judge all viewers opinion because it doesn't coincide with theirs and then have the nerve to claim confirmation bias or why don't you just come out and say what you really meant peeps were blatantly x, y or Z.
Its like I said above just cause some didn't like something it can be for any numerous various reasons, doesn't mean they are shills or evil political rednecks with race problems etc etc.
I watched all the show too and frankly it was pretty bad, saying that "the mob" just review bombed it is BS sloppy thinking that you usual see on steam when fans of a game don't like people giving their chosen game a bad review for various reason from technical issues to shitty game or of just bad story lines.
This show deserved the low "mob" score and frankly sometimes the "critics" have their own bias.
Like I mentioned in another post the hatefulness or bandwagon jumping goes both ways kind of like how it is in politics the republicans love spouting their own party line BS just as much as the liberals do and there no denying it.
Bottom line is the masses didn't like it and that review scores show that, as for a critic paid to do w/e they...who cares what they think it comes down to did I enjoy this show or tv movie and most did not.
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
I'm not looking for confirmation because I don't really give a shit who likes it or doesn't and I'm not trying to "win" anything about my opinion being the correct one - that's what you and Nilden are doing, not me.
I watched and liked it and that mob review bombing on Metacritic, which is not all but definitely includes racist fucks, can just piss off.
Yet you are trying to win by claiming everyone that gave this shit show a bad review or low score is a racist and can just piss off.
Perhaps we should adopt your sloppy bad attitude and just claim anyone giving the show a decent review is an equally hateful arse and can also just piss off...you know just cause we cant accept someone out there might have actually like the show regardless of its numerous faults.
I said it earlier this woke BS tends to polarize people now and like bad politicians that cant see past their party lines/agenda lots of people out there cant seem to use their own braincells and accept that just maybe some people don't agree with their opinion and it isn't cause they are "bad people".
Usually if a show or movie is not bad but not great the "hateful" people from both sides tend to balance themselves out.
You're not being very objective here and only thinking in black in white which makes you in IMO opinion just as bad as the people you are ranting about.
Not the first time I seen you and some other post this kind of dribble about "the mob" while not realizing you are exactly party of the "mob" just from a different hateful little polarity.
Point in case of the you are either with me or against me bias I am seeing:
Inclusivity is standard fare in movies and TV shows these days and hardly merits a second thought.
Even when it's overdone it's still a worthwhile thing because it's important for women, people of color, and non-heterosexuals to see themselves cast in prominent roles rather than just two-bit token, supporting roles as has been traditional.
The message is "You're one of us" and not inferior and that is a good message.
I agree in general this is a good thing however a show shouldn't be praised solely based on this on factor and should also be judge you know on its quality as you know a show.
It's very, very possible to be absolutely disappointed with a show and give it a drastically low score with out being any of the below that you claim must be the case....
...snip...
But from what I see here and in many other internet places. "woke," "virtue signaling," "SJW," etc are used by a particular crowd as shorthand snarls that are less overt than the racist, misogynist, and homophobic things they really want to say and what they really mean.
Hatefulness is just that hatefulness regardless of the form it comes out as even in the guise of ......
.... look I am a good guy cause I hate all the racists that review bomb a show cause of wokeness cause you know they must all be racists and can just piss off... cause you know I am just that much better and more advanced than the mob and anyone that doesn't agree with me must but all of the above...insert confirmation bias excuses etc etc ad nauseam.
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Its like I said above just cause some didn't like something it can be for any numerous various reasons, doesn't mean they are shills or evil political rednecks with race problems etc etc.
Read the 0 reviews and count the "wokes", "Hollywood political agenda" and "black elf" mentions. The bottom line is that it got review bombed by those of a certain political persuasion.
The 71 from people who depend on their credibility to pay their rent and mortgages is where the average should have landed and it did.
Edit because of your edit: yup you're absolutely right I hate racist fucks, misogynists, and homophobes and say hateful things about them. I also hate Nazis and pedophiles.
Does that make me superior? Nope. It's just what passes for normal in my family and my circle of friends.
What's normal for you?
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Its like I said above just cause some didn't like something it can be for any numerous various reasons, doesn't mean they are shills or evil political rednecks with race problems etc etc.
Read the 0 reviews and count the "wokes", "Hollywood political agenda" and "black elf" mentions. The bottom line is that it got review bombed by those of a certain political persuasion.
The 71 from people who depend on their credibility to pay their rent and mortgages is where the average should have landed and it did.
Just like it got review uplifted beyond its actual merit by critics and other such people that you know making a living out of this and to keep a certain bias up and going cause you know their lively hoods depend on it.
Lets be real most critics nowadays are a damned joke that just spout the current trend in hollywood.....its like the myth about the objective, unbiased journalist......that species went extinct a long time ago.
Like I said sloppy thinking there on your part cause anyone with eyes and two functioning braincells can see there are hateful people on both side of this... new woke political agenda.
Its like I said above just cause some didn't like something it can be for any numerous various reasons, doesn't mean they are shills or evil political rednecks with race problems etc etc.
Edit because of your edit: yup you're absolutely right I hate racist fucks, misogynists, and homophobes and say hateful things about them. I also hate Nazis and pedophiles.
Does that make me superior? Nope. It's just what passes for normal in my family and my circle of friends.
What's normal for you?
Another point in case of you virtue signalling and strawmaning in a hateful way by suggesting someone might be XYZ cause they dont agree with you.
Get over yourself bud just cause you "hate" all those above like you say doesnt' mean you are right and that anyone that dares having a divergent opinion is part of the above you mention.
You're not harriet tubman and part of the underground railway here and if someone disagrees with you or even lots of someones doesn't mean they are evil white slave masters.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Its like I said above just cause some didn't like something it can be for any numerous various reasons, doesn't mean they are shills or evil political rednecks with race problems etc etc.
Read the 0 reviews and count the "wokes", "Hollywood political agenda" and "black elf" mentions. The bottom line is that it got review bombed by those of a certain political persuasion.
The 71 from people who depend on their credibility to pay their rent and mortgages is where the average should have landed and it did.
Just like it got review uplifted beyond its actual merit by critics and other such people that you know making a living out of this and to keep a certain bias up and going cause you know their lively hoods depend on it.
Lets be real most critics nowadays are a damned joke that just spout the current trend in hollywood.....its like the myth about the objective, unbiased journalist......that species went extinct a long time ago.
Like I said sloppy thinking there on your part cause anyone with eyes and two functioning braincells can see there are hateful people on both side of this... new woke political agenda.
See how that goes.
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
Yet more hate from a guy that supposedly is all about inclusivity against people he doesn't know with zero facts to back himself up with other than his "supposedly no BS opinion".....lol
You really need to change that avatar as it has gone to your head so bad you cant smell your own BS.
Seriously you sound like some of the exteme people on twitter.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
Yet more hate from a guy that supposedly is all about inclusivity against people he doesn't know with zero facts to back himself up with other than his "supposedly no BS opinion".....lol
You really need to change that avatar as it has gone to your head so bad you cant smell your own BS.
Seriously you sound like some of the exteme people on twitter.
You're right, I don't know you, I just read what you write so I shouldn't personalize it.
Saying that critics just follow the trendy Hollywood agenda is not you being a dumb ass it's just a dumb ass thing to say by anyone of any political persuasion...better?
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
Yet more hate from a guy that supposedly is all about inclusivity against people he doesn't know with zero facts to back himself up with other than his "supposedly no BS opinion".....lol
You really need to change that avatar as it has gone to your head so bad you cant smell your own BS.
Seriously you sound like some of the exteme people on twitter.
You're right, I don't know you, I just read what you write so I shouldn't personalize it.
Saying that critics just follow the trendy Hollywood agenda is not you being a dumb ass it's just a dumb ass thing to say by anyone of any political persuasion...better?
Are you intelligent enough to see and even better honest enough to admit you do exactly the same thing by saying that people gave it a low score are XYZ?
You are arguing that everyone that gave it a a higher score, IE the critics, and few non critics, are all perfect little angels with zero agenda like angels come down from heaven but anyone that gave it a low score is by default a racist that can piss off.
I will say it again real slow this time and read my lips, there are hateful people on both side of this and right now you are showing yourself to be one of them.
Your wording or terminology doesn't change the basic flaw in your argument.
I am sure there are good honest critics out there that gave it a high score just like I believe there are good honest non critics giving it a bad score.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
Yet more hate from a guy that supposedly is all about inclusivity against people he doesn't know with zero facts to back himself up with other than his "supposedly no BS opinion".....lol
You really need to change that avatar as it has gone to your head so bad you cant smell your own BS.
Seriously you sound like some of the exteme people on twitter.
You're right, I don't know you, I just read what you write so I shouldn't personalize it.
Saying that critics just follow the trendy Hollywood agenda is not you being a dumb ass it's just a dumb ass thing to say by anyone of any political persuasion...better?
Are you intelligent enough to see and even better honest enough to admit you do exactly the same thing by saying that people gave it a low score are XYZ?
You are arguing that everyone that gave it a a higher score, IE the critics, and few non critics, are all perfect little angels with zero agenda like angels come down from heaven but anyone that gave it a low score is by default a racist that can piss off.
I will say it again real slow this time and read my lips, there are hateful people on both side of this and right now you are showing yourself to be one of them.
Your wording or terminology doesn't change the basic flaw in your argument.
I am sure there a re good honest critics out there that gave it a high score just like I believe there are good honest non critics giving it a bad score.
Real name with the job at stake vs. anonymous random poster with zero consequences.
Read that as many times as you need until it sinks in.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
Yet more hate from a guy that supposedly is all about inclusivity against people he doesn't know with zero facts to back himself up with other than his "supposedly no BS opinion".....lol
You really need to change that avatar as it has gone to your head so bad you cant smell your own BS.
Seriously you sound like some of the exteme people on twitter.
You're right, I don't know you, I just read what you write so I shouldn't personalize it.
Saying that critics just follow the trendy Hollywood agenda is not you being a dumb ass it's just a dumb ass thing to say by anyone of any political persuasion...better?
Are you intelligent enough to see and even better honest enough to admit you do exactly the same thing by saying that people gave it a low score are XYZ?
You are arguing that everyone that gave it a a higher score, IE the critics, and few non critics, are all perfect little angels with zero agenda like angels come down from heaven but anyone that gave it a low score is by default a racist that can piss off.
I will say it again real slow this time and read my lips, there are hateful people on both side of this and right now you are showing yourself to be one of them.
Your wording or terminology doesn't change the basic flaw in your argument.
I am sure there a re good honest critics out there that gave it a high score just like I believe there are good honest non critics giving it a bad score.
Real name with the job at stake vs. anonymous random poster with zero consequences.
Read that as many times as you need until it sinks in.
You think this strawman changes the flaw in your argument?
You smell that BS there you are spouting?
Job at stake my arse, You could say their job would be more at stake if they gave bad reviews than the other way around.
The random little dweebs reading their reviews and believing it like it was gospel are not the ones paying them or signing their paycheck.
You think about that till it sinks in.
If you think critics don't have their own little echo chambers you're a very naive kind of guy.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The Rings of Power was show about galadriel and her journey.
There's nothing woke about that journey. It also had other major figures
of Lotr. IF you as a poster take issue with skin color in fictional
characters, then that is completely something you need to work on as a
human person. Woke is so far past that now it is almost sad people
consider skin color as a woke topic.
I think it's fair to say both Rings of Power and Wheel of Time made some changes to the original lore. At least Wheel of Time had access to all of Jordan's writing on the series.
Both shows certainly felt the need to alter the stories to be more appealing to modern audiences. And as a fan of both I felt they went too far with prioritizing their own beliefs and values over the stories their authors created.
Amazon paid hundreds of millions to the estate for the right adapt a TV show of what was in 'The Hobbit' and the 'Lord of the Rings' and it's appendices. The Tolkien Estate only owned those rights because Saul Zaentz never foresaw a TV show being made, although he had to rights to one of up to 7 episodes.
The Estate did not license the rights to adapt anything from 'The Silmarillion' or the multitude of books based on Tolkiens notes. This is why RoP essentially had to break lore with regards to anything Tolkien wrote about the Second Age in those books published after his death.
RoP is 100% not made for people that care about the lore. And the Wheel of Time showrunner often mocked fans of that book series taking issues with how he chose to adapt Jordan's work.
Amazon is definitely not the studio I want in charge of a LOTR MMO.
I think it's fair to say both Rings of Power and Wheel of Time made some changes to the original lore. At least Wheel of Time had access to all of Jordan's writing on the series.
Both shows certainly felt the need to alter the stories to be more appealing to modern audiences. And as a fan of both I felt they went too far with prioritizing their own beliefs and values over the stories their authors created.
Amazon paid hundreds of millions to the estate for the right adapt a TV show of what was in 'The Hobbit' and the 'Lord of the Rings' and it's appendices. The Tolkien Estate only owned those rights because Saul Zaentz never foresaw a TV show being made, although he had to rights to one of up to 7 episodes.
The Estate did not license the rights to adapt anything from 'The Silmarillion' or the multitude of books based on Tolkiens notes. This is why RoP essentially had to break lore with regards to anything Tolkien wrote about the Second Age in those books published after his death.
RoP is 100% not made for people that care about the lore. And the Wheel of Time showrunner often mocked fans of that book series taking issues with how he chose to adapt Jordan's work.
Amazon is definitely not the studio I want in charge of a LOTR MMO.
I agree with this, didn't care for RoP and not for the wheel of time either...very disappointed in the wheel and the changes they made.
I don't get tv shows sometimes, I mean I get they sometimes have to make some changes due to the story going from paper to screen format however there's this new fad to "modernize" and give things new values or blatantly outright change or "fix" lore and story cause some shmuck writer or producer etc etc thinks they can tell a better story than a world renown author that actually created the story and lore in the first place....
The Wheel of time has like 90 million copies sold so I think.... gasp..... the story was just fine as is!
I mean if you're not a fan of the books and don't give two cents about the lore then you will probably be okay with the tv show. For me I have some bias cause I read the books way before the tv show so can't help but be like meh wtf sometimes and I really dislike how the Aes Sedai are done.
Also was looking forward to seeing the perry wolfriend/faile thing but now...dunno
I mean I wont even go into how they butchered Rand, Perry and Matts personalities and "innocence" at the start of the books. I mean Perry wasn't even married in the book so...lol they cut our lots of good stuff to replace it with.... tripe.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Turning Galadriel into a generic action hero is by itself enough to throw the show into the bin.
I heard about this, that could have been done so much better, many other storied Elves could have fitted better. If they felt they had to have her prominent a more "Gandalf" (as an example in a nutshell) role would have suited her better. Less action hero more magic and sagacity. Not saying thats lore solid, just better.
For decades now no one here complaining has batted at an eye at how bad Turbine/SSG has trampled all over the lore and have hand waved past their horrible loot crates. But you all are worried because RoP ruffled your socio-political jimmies? Give me a break.
If you really cared about the lore and took LotRO to task then I might buy into the sincerity shtick, but you don't so the complaints sound a lot more like opportunistic rabble rousing. Unless of course people are just fine with dorfs and humans chillin with the Lord and Lady in Loth, Moria being a themepark adventure ride, and a slew of generic quests including poop fetch quests, and generally mediocre writing.
Guess you must have missed the uproar over the Runekeepers or whatever they are called. That was some serious disagreeing...
A few squeaky objections 15 years ago is your example of LotRO also being objectively criticized? Please. Where are those posters now because none of the people in this thread ever make a peep at how LotRO continues to trample all over the lore to this day.
Runekeepers, by far, aren't even the worst or most recent offenders. So, that one little buzz event 15 years ago doesn't really count as people treating it the same. There is more outrage in this one thread than all the LotRO threads on this site combined over the years. So please, don't try and use "but but the Runekeepers" as the lone weak example of how posters on this site have objectively treated LotRO and continue to do so.
The issues with players who love lore in Lotro probably began with goat mounts, but this series goes way beyond that. I do not know one person who I think of as a Tolkien buff who will defend it. Even those who laud the diversity can't overlook the mire of lore issues it had. There is no comparison.
Right. Those who give it a 0 from the comfort of their basement anonymously with zero consequences speak the truth and critics are a joke. LMAO
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
Yet more hate from a guy that supposedly is all about inclusivity against people he doesn't know with zero facts to back himself up with other than his "supposedly no BS opinion".....lol
You really need to change that avatar as it has gone to your head so bad you cant smell your own BS.
Seriously you sound like some of the exteme people on twitter.
You're right, I don't know you, I just read what you write so I shouldn't personalize it.
Saying that critics just follow the trendy Hollywood agenda is not you being a dumb ass it's just a dumb ass thing to say by anyone of any political persuasion...better?
Are you intelligent enough to see and even better honest enough to admit you do exactly the same thing by saying that people gave it a low score are XYZ?
You are arguing that everyone that gave it a a higher score, IE the critics, and few non critics, are all perfect little angels with zero agenda like angels come down from heaven but anyone that gave it a low score is by default a racist that can piss off.
I will say it again real slow this time and read my lips, there are hateful people on both side of this and right now you are showing yourself to be one of them.
Your wording or terminology doesn't change the basic flaw in your argument.
I am sure there a re good honest critics out there that gave it a high score just like I believe there are good honest non critics giving it a bad score.
Real name with the job at stake vs. anonymous random poster with zero consequences.
Read that as many times as you need until it sinks in.
Said the : anonymous random poster with zero consequence ..
Lmfao getting so triggered because people do not like a show that you did is a bad look . And then to sling insults at this community repeatedly, is a bad look . To have a No Bullshit Avatar and proceed to shovel it so deep we need backhoe to get out is , a bad look .
Its like I said above just cause some didn't like something it can be for any numerous various reasons, doesn't mean they are shills or evil political rednecks with race problems etc etc.
Read the 0 reviews and count the "wokes", "Hollywood political agenda" and "black elf" mentions. The bottom line is that it got review bombed by those of a certain political persuasion.
The 71 from people who depend on their credibility to pay their rent and mortgages is where the average should have landed and it did.
Sure there are some like that. There are also quite a few fake 10's. At the end of the day, only 37 percent of people that started the show finished watching the 8 episodes. The 2.9 tracks pretty close to the 37%. Could you argue that it was dragged down a point because of "review bombing"? Sure, you can make that case. But at the end of the day the 2.9 is closer to the actual viewers than the 71% of the official critics. That's just actual demonstrated fact.
Nobody is contending that the reviewers didn't like the show, just like you did. But it's pretty obvious that the reviewers are out of step with the general population. Or at least the percent of the population that was interested in watching the show.
Because at the end of the day, the goal of the show wasn't to just make the reviewers happy. It also wasn;t to get a great user review score on a website. It was to entertain their audience and justify the "Ludicrous Money" they spent and are spending on the show by having their actual audience enjoy it and enjoy it enough to subscribe to Prime to watch it.
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Here's the thing, they released a game. That makes them a great contender.
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The 71 from people who depend on their credibility to pay their rent and mortgages is where the average should have landed and it did.
Edit because of your edit: yup you're absolutely right I hate racist fucks, misogynists, and homophobes and say hateful things about them. I also hate Nazis and pedophiles.
Does that make me superior? Nope. It's just what passes for normal in my family and my circle of friends.
What's normal for you?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Sounds like something straight out truth social.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Saying that critics just follow the trendy Hollywood agenda is not you being a dumb ass it's just a dumb ass thing to say by anyone of any political persuasion...better?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Read that as many times as you need until it sinks in.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Both shows certainly felt the need to alter the stories to be more appealing to modern audiences. And as a fan of both I felt they went too far with prioritizing their own beliefs and values over the stories their authors created.
Amazon paid hundreds of millions to the estate for the right adapt a TV show of what was in 'The Hobbit' and the 'Lord of the Rings' and it's appendices. The Tolkien Estate only owned those rights because Saul Zaentz never foresaw a TV show being made, although he had to rights to one of up to 7 episodes.
The Estate did not license the rights to adapt anything from 'The Silmarillion' or the multitude of books based on Tolkiens notes. This is why RoP essentially had to break lore with regards to anything Tolkien wrote about the Second Age in those books published after his death.
RoP is 100% not made for people that care about the lore. And the Wheel of Time showrunner often mocked fans of that book series taking issues with how he chose to adapt Jordan's work.
Amazon is definitely not the studio I want in charge of a LOTR MMO.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Lmfao getting so triggered because people do not like a show that you did is a bad look .
And then to sling insults at this community repeatedly, is a bad look .
To have a No Bullshit Avatar and proceed to shovel it so deep we need backhoe to get out is , a bad look .
Get some sleep.
At the end of the day, only 37 percent of people that started the show finished watching the 8 episodes. The 2.9 tracks pretty close to the 37%. Could you argue that it was dragged down a point because of "review bombing"? Sure, you can make that case. But at the end of the day the 2.9 is closer to the actual viewers than the 71% of the official critics. That's just actual demonstrated fact.
Nobody is contending that the reviewers didn't like the show, just like you did. But it's pretty obvious that the reviewers are out of step with the general population. Or at least the percent of the population that was interested in watching the show.
Because at the end of the day, the goal of the show wasn't to just make the reviewers happy. It also wasn;t to get a great user review score on a website. It was to entertain their audience and justify the "Ludicrous Money" they spent and are spending on the show by having their actual audience enjoy it and enjoy it enough to subscribe to Prime to watch it.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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And while there are things I don't like about New World, nothing about them have anything to do with "bad game."
At least from my tastes. Sure, there have been blunders like making the game a bit more hardcore for the money they were spending, not having enough pve content so they had to scramble, issues with duping if I remember correcty, etc, but they've at least stepped up to address those things.
If not them, who?
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018