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Best mmorpg to start now?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Exhibit A?
    GrymmoireDibdabsstrawhat0981Theocritus

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    waynejr2 said:
    Kyleran said:
    I fear the day isn't too far off where we'll be holding running conversations with chatbots and be unable to discern them from human posters.



    Is that because the bots are getting smarter or the humans getting dumber?
    Both.
    KyleranAdamantine
  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Hmm, doesn't sound like a bot at all...
    Kyleran
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Dibdabs said:
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Hmm, doesn't sound like a bot at all...
    But it does have good taste. :)
    Kyleran
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    Scot said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Hmm, doesn't sound like a bot at all...
    But it does have good taste. :)

    On a positive note, Steam is banning all AI generated content. Leave it to steam to make its platform NFT/Crypto/AI free.......directly at least.
    KyleranAndemnon
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Dattelis said:
    Scot said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Hmm, doesn't sound like a bot at all...
    But it does have good taste. :)

    On a positive note, Steam is banning all AI generated content. Leave it to steam to make its platform NFT/Crypto/AI free.......directly at least.
    I am not sure about banning AI generated content, that could be quite useful for MMO development.
  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    Scot said:
    Dattelis said:
    Scot said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Hmm, doesn't sound like a bot at all...
    But it does have good taste. :)

    On a positive note, Steam is banning all AI generated content. Leave it to steam to make its platform NFT/Crypto/AI free.......directly at least.
    I am not sure about banning AI generated content, that could be quite useful for MMO development.
    It's mostly just them targeting the use of any low-effort AI generated media.

    There's definitely a place for AI generated content, but it has to be used appropriately.

    Churning out art using publicly scraped training models and slapping some story in there you made GPT regurgitate without even doing an edit pass? Not quite appropriate.
    ScotKyleran
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,377
    edited July 2023
    Since all those AAA suggestions in the OP are different flavors of the same oatmeal, I'll recommend Planeshift for people wanting an old school MMRPG where role-playing is more strictly enforced (4th wall/IRL discussions must remain in a specific channel) and socialization is highly encouraged.

    Planeshift is community developed and driven. It is also truly free to play.

    It's been years since I've played, so I'm thinking of reinstalling and seeing how things are now.


    edit: nvm. Was going to try a new test version. Instead, I'm going to try the current stable before jumping into alpha so I have a reference.
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  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    edited July 2023
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*
    Back when you were 12, right?

    ;)
    UwakionnaScot

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    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    Kyleran said:
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*
    Back when you were 12, right?

    ;)
    Not that much older really, was using it as a learning project while I was beginning coding since CrystalSpace is/was an open source engine.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited July 2023
    Uwakionna said:
    Kyleran said:
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*
    Back when you were 12, right?

    ;)
    Not that much older really, was using it as a learning project while I was beginning coding since CrystalSpace is/was an open source engine.
    We can all start to feel our age:

    I have a friend who I have known for 28 to 30 years. About four years ago she said "when we tell people how long ago that happened lets just say it was a few years ago." Working that out I said "so we take how long ago it happened, divide it by six and there we go." She was quite happy with that. :)
    Uwakionna
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    Neoyoshi said:
    peanutabc said:
    what is your goal with an mmorpg?


    GW2 -  "achievement hunting the video game" 

    ESO - decent side quests, pve content, everything voiced but love or hate it combat 

    SWTOR -  is always a good option for at least playing through from level 1 if you enjoy story and classic tab target mmorpgs. Has a questionable future due to recent news

    XIV - the trial can give you an impresion but It's not a game you can "main" so to speak. Once you're on top of content you're playing other games in content droughts. 

    WOW - Can't really give an opinion as not played the latest 2 expansions but has always had decent raids and dungeons

    BDO - can't really comment outside it's often free for on sale for basically nothing every other month


    My goal is to have fun haha, i was thinking ffxiv end game was interesting,there is not cool raid and so?

    Hmmmm, FFXIV takes some time to really get through for a beginner as it's super story-heavy; but it is a well-populated mmorpg right now, and there is a lot to do (like a lot alot,)

    Also if you've never played FFXIV, you pretty much have to do the story to get to endgame, as content is locked behind story progression- so it can take months to get through as there's 10 years of expansions and patches- all with main story that has to be done to access each expansions content.

    I recommend Elder Scrolls Online simply because it's very easy to jump into new content quicker because of the nature of it's overworld progress and that it allows players to pick and choose where they can start to a certain extent.

    Black Desert might be also a good choice because of the new Land of the morning light and season servers- that gives some options to let newer players choose where in the content to begin their journey.

    Guild Wars 2... i haven't played it in a long time now, so i don't know how much that's changed, but i remember it being story heavy as well (sorta), but i do recall the open world being fun, and levels scale to character in those regards so that's a good amount of options- i'm not sure how populated it is these days.

    Those are the only one's i can comment on, Warcraft and Starwars i have not dabbled in in a really long time, buuuuuuuuuuut, now that i think about it; Starwars was massively fun to jump into from what i remember.  (though i'm a huge starwars nerd so take that advice with a grain of spice)
    FFXIV has been overhauled a lot. The first 70 or so levels had their XP curves adjusted quite a bit.
    So leveling is now a lot quicker.  Also for your Chocobo companion when you unlock it. It levels up a lot quicker now. Which is nice.

    I am actually rerolling myself now on Balmung server and having a blast to be honest. I can skip all the side quests and just focus on the Main story quests and your class quests.
  • jitter77jitter77 Member UncommonPosts: 517
    For me XIV is just so slow.   The game is good in many ways, but the combat and leveling is just so slow.   One thing i like is your one character can do everything.   You can max all crafting, be a healer, tank etc etc.   The combat is just so slow to me.  You will have a LONG journey before you even think about endgame. 

      ESO is solid, but if you like crafting and what not you need to be an ESO+ member or else you will be playing an inventory management game.   

    For GW2 i like the open world stuff, but not a fan of the dungeons.   I never made it to end game, but they seem to be more like giant zerg fests and there is no trinity system.  

    I have not played star wars in years I really enjoyed leveling up characters for the story.   It felt almost like a single player game.  

    WoW you pretty much know what your going to get.  I played a new char in wow not too long ago and enjoyed it

    If you want something newer there is always new world.  It is not really that bad and they seem to be improving it.   

    There is also lost ark which is "f2p"  Combat / leveling is pretty fun and there is a ton of things to do.   The dungeons / raids can be challenging and have some interesting mechanics.   I would definitely read a guide before entering.   It is a f2p game though and you will hit a wall where progression becomes painful w/o spending.   From what i read you can get pretty far now before this happens
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    edited July 2023
    peanutabc said:
    what is your goal with an mmorpg?


    GW2 -  "achievement hunting the video game" 

    ESO - decent side quests, pve content, everything voiced but love or hate it combat 

    SWTOR -  is always a good option for at least playing through from level 1 if you enjoy story and classic tab target mmorpgs. Has a questionable future due to recent news

    XIV - the trial can give you an impresion but It's not a game you can "main" so to speak. Once you're on top of content you're playing other games in content droughts. 

    WOW - Can't really give an opinion as not played the latest 2 expansions but has always had decent raids and dungeons

    BDO - can't really comment outside it's often free for on sale for basically nothing every other month



    Its funny that this is the most common list when people think about newer MMOs, but where is New World?...... It is more recent than any of these games......IS it that bad that people dont even consider it?
  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    I own New World and to be honest I rarely boot the game up.  It's an ok-ish game, but it doesn't really fire me up with the urge to play.
  • HengistHengist Member RarePosts: 1,313
    Kyleran said:
    EVE Online...


    It's funny, I loaded it up the other day to give it a try again (tried it several times during the years, and it's never quite connected). One of the better, and worse feelings about Eve, is that I just have no idea what to do. The pure sandbox feeling is great, but that's usually something I'd have dealt with at a launch, now I feel like I've got 20 years of catching up to do, or trying to figure things out.


  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    edited July 2023
    ValdemarJ said:
    ...I'll recommend Planeshift for people wanting an old school MMRPG...
    I just tried making a character and got to the point where you click Leave, and it just sent me back to the tedious "story" screens again and yet again.  I was told each time I had points to spend but no idea was given where to spend them or what I could spend them on.  Binned the game.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    edited July 2023
    jitter77 said:
    For me XIV is just so slow.   The game is good in many ways, but the combat and leveling is just so slow.   One thing i like is your one character can do everything.   You can max all crafting, be a healer, tank etc etc.   The combat is just so slow to me.  You will have a LONG journey before you even think about endgame. 



    When was the last time you tried it?  For me it was last year around this time.

    They have done a huge overhaul of the leveling experience.

    - Leveling in lower levels is much faster now, especially if you have XP earring and XP headpiece... you literally blasting through the lower levels now.

    I was doing just Main Story quests and Class quests and quickly outleveled the Story quests by 10 levels when I reached level 30, so I unequipped at least the XP headpiece.

     Leveling was a real slow chore before, forcing you to do almost all the side quests, doing some Fate's just to be able to continue the Mainline Story progression.
    But not anymore! I am not joking, but the first 30 levels alone are going like 10 times faster now than before.

    Lower level dungeons have been greatly streamlined and are pretty quick runs now. And if DPS queue times are long on the server you are on, you can just do it with an NPC group now.

    - You Chocobo companion levels incredibly fast too now, so that is really nice and he will be more useful real quick.


    When it comes to slow combat, that greatly depends on the class.  My main character is Paladin and I know this class has very slow combat, like most tank classes have in all RPG's / MMORPG's.

    DPS classes, like Monk run on much faster rotations, with faster CD's the higher level you get.

    All in all.... FFXIV is much more a traditional MMO like EQ2 and WoW in terms of combat, not some fast paced Action Combat RPG like the newer Final Fantasy solo games ( FFVII remake and latest FFXVI ).
    So you either like tradional MMO's or you don't.


    NOTE: Steam Summer sale has now an insane good deal on FFXIV Complete Edition for just 20 bucks or so! This gives you all the current expansions! It's a steal.
  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,093
    Dattelis said:
    Scot said:
    Dibdabs said:
    Elijah36 said:
    Hi Guys,
    If you're looking for a great MMORPG to start playing right now, I highly recommend Final Fantasy XIV. With its stunning visuals, immersive storytelling, and engaging gameplay, it has captivated millions of players worldwide. The game offers a vast world to explore, diverse classes to choose from, and a welcoming community. Whether you're a seasoned MMO player or new to the genre, Final Fantasy XIV provides an incredible experience that will keep you entertained for hours on end. Don't miss out on this epic adventure.
    Hmm, doesn't sound like a bot at all...
    But it does have good taste. :)

    On a positive note, Steam is banning all AI generated content. Leave it to steam to make its platform NFT/Crypto/AI free.......directly at least.

    Ironically thats another example of monopoly abuse.

    Smaller companies like GoG couldnt afford to do that, they'd lose customers.
  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    edited July 2023
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*

    That was a quite... terrible engine, to be honest. But I guess it was good training :)
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  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*

    That was a quite... terrible engine, to be honest. But I guess it was good training :)
    I mean it was an engine that was started in 1997.

    The core engine was itself pretty slim and built for modules/plugins, so "mileage may vary" depending on the modules used. It being dominantly C++ and little in the way of built in cleanup also meant the onus was on the individuals using the engine to build out proper garbage collection for the modules and additional code.

    It was a pretty robust engine for it's time, especially as open source, but it's time was decades ago.
    ValdemarJ
  • ValdemarJValdemarJ Member RarePosts: 1,377
    Uwakionna said:
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*

    That was a quite... terrible engine, to be honest. But I guess it was good training :)
    I mean it was an engine that was started in 1997.

    The core engine was itself pretty slim and built for modules/plugins, so "mileage may vary" depending on the modules used. It being dominantly C++ and little in the way of built in cleanup also meant the onus was on the individuals using the engine to build out proper garbage collection for the modules and additional code.

    It was a pretty robust engine for it's time, especially as open source, but it's time was decades ago.

    Since they're migrating to UE 5.1, what, if any, of the old engine or bits would they keep around? Just kind of curious.
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  • UwakionnaUwakionna Member RarePosts: 1,139
    ValdemarJ said:
    Uwakionna said:
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*

    That was a quite... terrible engine, to be honest. But I guess it was good training :)
    I mean it was an engine that was started in 1997.

    The core engine was itself pretty slim and built for modules/plugins, so "mileage may vary" depending on the modules used. It being dominantly C++ and little in the way of built in cleanup also meant the onus was on the individuals using the engine to build out proper garbage collection for the modules and additional code.

    It was a pretty robust engine for it's time, especially as open source, but it's time was decades ago.

    Since they're migrating to UE 5.1, what, if any, of the old engine or bits would they keep around? Just kind of curious.
    Honestly, I'd be surprised if they are keeping anything from the original engine over just porting the assets and rebuilding the rest with blueprints and some extra code. Copying over parts like the character mechanics could be done, but it could also be rapidly replicated with the opportunity for better compatibility with Unreal Architecture/modules and their Reflection system.

    It just makes more sense to remake the code than to try carrying it all over.
    ValdemarJ
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Uwakionna said:
    Uwakionna said:
    Actually did work on the CrystalSpace engine for Planeshift ~16 years ago. XD

    Correction, 21 years ago, damn.*

    That was a quite... terrible engine, to be honest. But I guess it was good training :)
    I mean it was an engine that was started in 1997.

    The core engine was itself pretty slim and built for modules/plugins, so "mileage may vary" depending on the modules used. It being dominantly C++ and little in the way of built in cleanup also meant the onus was on the individuals using the engine to build out proper garbage collection for the modules and additional code.

    It was a pretty robust engine for it's time, especially as open source, but it's time was decades ago.
    No idea what has happened to Uwakionna, hopefully back with us soon.
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