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Sandmanjw

Vrika said:

Sandmanjw said:

`AI (real Artificial Intelligence) is, and always will be, fiction. 

False.

We don't actually know if we'll be able to create one. Currently our best guess is that it looks a bit more probable than not, but won't be for a while yet.

Naw not false, don't matter how much you code, nor how many data bases you tie into the programs in the end. No amount of zero's and ones gonna teach a machine emotions. The end.

Will be just like now, all the "AI" talk is just rebranding programs that use data bases and code. 

Bad habit people have now, believing that if you say something long enough, and loud enough, and enough people parrot something, then it must be some new "truth". 

Vrika

Sandmanjw said:

Vrika said:

Sandmanjw said:

`AI (real Artificial Intelligence) is, and always will be, fiction. 

False.

We don't actually know if we'll be able to create one. Currently our best guess is that it looks a bit more probable than not, but won't be for a while yet.

Naw not false, don't matter how much you code, nor how many data bases you tie into the programs in the end. No amount of zero's and ones gonna teach a machine emotions. The end.

Will be just like now, all the "AI" talk is just rebranding programs that use data bases and code. 

Bad habit people have now, believing that if you say something long enough, and loud enough, and enough people parrot something, then it must be some new "truth". 

We don't even know if emotions are needed for intelligence.

We're at the moment most interested in making an AI that is capable of understanding stuff and solving problems. In the longer run, it's hoped that it could result in an AI that could act practically anywhere and do any task. In even longer run, there's research into giving that kind of AI the ability to have huge set of preferences and aims, and to make both decision and long term plans on how to best act in order to achieve them.

At that point we could have intelligent AI.

There's research being done into getting AI to understand human emotions and respond to them. But at least to my knowledge, very little research being done into actually giving AI emotions, because AI might not really need them.

Cogohi

Sandmanjw said:

Naw not false, don't matter how much you code, nor how many data bases you tie into the programs in the end. No amount of zero's and ones gonna teach a machine emotions. The end.

To be pedantic humans aren't taught to have emotions.  The first functional artificial brains would need to develop them the same way while latter ones would just copy whatever "context" is needed from one already developed.

We can reasonably quantify how many neurons a human brain contains.  We have at least a basic understanding how neurons and brain chemistry works.  Obviously there are still many areas of research available but at some point our understanding how the brain works will be "good enough" to design an artificial brain that can experience emotions.

Capacity is still a challenge but "No amount of zero's and ones" is wrong.  Artificial brains will be a thing but perhaps not in any of our lifetimes.

cheyane

I wonder if we met aliens without emotions whether we would consider them sentient when they come to our planet in their spaceships. I think the concept of sentience requiring emotions should be revisited.

Slapshot1188

cheyane said:

I wonder if we met aliens without emotions whether we would consider them sentient when they come to our planet in their spaceships. I think the concept of sentience requiring emotions should be revisited.

You have likely already met an alien and not realized it.  They have been here for a long time.