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Ryan really has never managed to get into World of Warcraft. Yet with this month's The War Within expansion on the horizon, it might just be the way for him to get into Blizzard's MMORPG.

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  • losthewarlosthewar Member UncommonPosts: 132
    lol no
    Hiromant
  • sabrefoxxsabrefoxx Member UncommonPosts: 234
    Are you sure it's only the 10th expansion? Are you sure it's not the 12312315234125167th expansion? This game has existed for too long. IT needs to die. I couldn't care less about WoW. I played for a time during my youth and that was all I needed. I don't need a rehash.
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  • dreguedregue Member UncommonPosts: 9
    World of Warcraft has become a dungeon rush, not an MMORPG; it’s a game where you only do dungeons and raids
    ValdemarJonelesslightemperorhades1strawhat0981ApridiseExsirasJeroKanedragonlee66
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Oshric said:

    Here is the issue with Wow. It has gone woke, and thats the truth. The game has no bite anymore. When it launched it was a BADASS MMORPG with Faction Wars at its core. Now its has been gutted from the inside out by woke developers and woke ass leadership.



    Its a splintered community with multiple versions and no fight left in it. Might as well call it World of Safecraft.



    Sign my petition for a better server.



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    You started this in June and it has 2 signatures. Perhaps you should let more people know about it?
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385

    Oshric said:

    Here is the issue with Wow. It has gone woke, and thats the truth. The game has no bite anymore. When it launched it was a BADASS MMORPG with Faction Wars at its core. Now its has been gutted from the inside out by woke developers and woke ass leadership.



    Its a splintered community with multiple versions and no fight left in it. Might as well call it World of Safecraft.



    Sign my petition for a better server.



    https://chng.it/PzMhqjprGf



    This argument again? Please, most people do not even understand what woke means and what they complain about when using it.

    I have played Warcraft games since the 1990s and the only thing that has changed is the war between the Horde and Alliance is no longer the focus. GOOD. 30+ years of that would be boring. Here is a shocker - in the history of Azeroth and the universe of WOW, that war is a small period of time. Its a bleep in the history. In addition the war itself was limiting to the game design and development of the game. This was seen early on in WOW's launch when trying to balance raids and such with only Paladins or only Shaman was difficult.


    WOW did not change because its WOKE. WOW changed because its playerbase did. I would argue that right now with TWW coming, WOW is at the best point it has been since WOTLK. Is it perfect? No, but its a solid game, its fun and enjoyable.
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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 416
    WoW is not the place for adventure or role playing. The expansion is the same old dungeon/raid simulator.
    gandlesJeroKanedragonlee66Blueliner
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750
    I might give it a go with the delves. I have no time...well let me rephrase that... I have the time I just choose to make more important things than grinding MMOs a priority so that I refuse to get involved in raiding or M+ dungeons due to two major factors:

    1. The contiguous block of time required to run these things is absurd. I would say a half hour commitment is the max. That's not to say I don't ever play more than that amount of time. It's just I choose to let other people's priorities be more important than my gaming hobby and a half our is the most im willing to tell someone they'll have to wait before I can help them or spend time with them.

    2. The scheduling requirements. Since raids require groups, obviously, that means you're going to have to schedule time with said group to run your raid. Kinda hard to run a 10 man raid one person at a time. Well, again, due to my life priorities and goals I'm pretty much already scheduled up, so I cannot guarantee you I'll be online Wednesday 8pm to midnight to run the raid. Sorry.

    The delves seem to solve the above limitation of mine and gives at least some amount of end game progression that was completely absent in WoW prior to this expac. For that reason I will say I'm interested. Not enough interested to preorder. I will wait for the launch dust to settle and some reviews and guides to come out and make a decision at that time. I've never been able to keep up with the hardcore players so early access does nothing for me. I will end up in the same place regardless.
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  • GroqstrongGroqstrong Member RarePosts: 825
    I cant anymore with WoW.  I've had great fun and lasting memories but at some point you have to give your audience something new in this genre.
    ValdemarJdragonlee66
  • sabrefoxxsabrefoxx Member UncommonPosts: 234




    Oshric said:


    Here is the issue with Wow. It has gone woke, and thats the truth. The game has no bite anymore. When it launched it was a BADASS MMORPG with Faction Wars at its core. Now its has been gutted from the inside out by woke developers and woke ass leadership.





    Its a splintered community with multiple versions and no fight left in it. Might as well call it World of Safecraft.





    Sign my petition for a better server.





    https://chng.it/PzMhqjprGf






    This argument again? Please, most people do not even understand what woke means and what they complain about when using it.



    I have played Warcraft games since the 1990s and the only thing that has changed is the war between the Horde and Alliance is no longer the focus. GOOD. 30+ years of that would be boring. Here is a shocker - in the history of Azeroth and the universe of WOW, that war is a small period of time. Its a bleep in the history. In addition the war itself was limiting to the game design and development of the game. This was seen early on in WOW's launch when trying to balance raids and such with only Paladins or only Shaman was difficult.





    WOW did not change because its WOKE. WOW changed because its playerbase did. I would argue that right now with TWW coming, WOW is at the best point it has been since WOTLK. Is it perfect? No, but its a solid game, its fun and enjoyable.



    Most people don't know that the term "Woke" was co-opted by bigoted people. It's original meaning meant "one who is aware of your roots, social injustice, a fighter for equality, and one who has their eyes open to prevent people from pulling the wool over them (hence the word woke to mean awake)."

    Now the meaning of "WOKE" means "a world that should only be meant for white, male, straight, so-called christian society" The legal team of desantis of florida actually defined woke as "anti-diversity, anti-equality, anti-justice for all" look it up that is their legal definition for a word called "WOKE" that you so PROUDLY say is some sort of slur.

    +1 FOR A MORE WOKE WORLD TO LIVE IN! BTW Erika Bydu (I misspelled her name cuz I don't feel like looking up the right spelling) coined the phrase "woke" educate yourselves.

    And if you want to throw a slur over at WoW then say so directly "WoW is not anti-diversity, anti-equality, and anti-justice for all enough" There I fixed it for you.

    Enjoy your messed up life! @Oshric
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  • gelraengelraen Member UncommonPosts: 326
    edited August 19

    Angrakhan said:

    I might give it a go with the delves. I have no time...well let me rephrase that... I have the time I just choose to make more important things than grinding MMOs a priority so that I refuse to get involved in raiding or M+ dungeons due to two major factors:



    1. The contiguous block of time required to run these things is absurd. I would say a half hour commitment is the max. That's not to say I don't ever play more than that amount of time. It's just I choose to let other people's priorities be more important than my gaming hobby and a half our is the most im willing to tell someone they'll have to wait before I can help them or spend time with them.



    2. The scheduling requirements. Since raids require groups, obviously, that means you're going to have to schedule time with said group to run your raid. Kinda hard to run a 10 man raid one person at a time. Well, again, due to my life priorities and goals I'm pretty much already scheduled up, so I cannot guarantee you I'll be online Wednesday 8pm to midnight to run the raid. Sorry.



    The delves seem to solve the above limitation of mine and gives at least some amount of end game progression that was completely absent in WoW prior to this expac. For that reason I will say I'm interested. Not enough interested to preorder. I will wait for the launch dust to settle and some reviews and guides to come out and make a decision at that time. I've never been able to keep up with the hardcore players so early access does nothing for me. I will end up in the same place regardless.



    I can relate to you problems with time commitment - particularly with raids. On the other hand, I find it interesting that you think Mythic+ falls into this category. My view on Mythic+ is that it is exactly designed for people like you (and me) in the sense that it really is designed for people only looking for a sub-30 minute fix. M+ dungeons are generally pretty quick by design, and you can pick away at your progression whenever you can make the time. Modern WoW is pretty easy going in that way.

    That said, I think the rest of the game has become a sort of weird pokemon, casual mount collecting, mindless world quest spamming, experience. The open world content is just too easy and bland that it's hard to stay in that game for long. I really wish the WoW devs would look closely at Guild Wars 2 (the expansions anyway) to see what interesting open world events can be like.

    Still, I've never seen WoW more populated than it has been recently. I guess the masses must prefer a difficulty level which is much lower than I like anyway.



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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    This article is really weird the way it's written.

    It's phrased as if this person just recently became a PC gamer but also used to play World of Warcraft a long time ago....?



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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    I enjoyed WoW for a while.  Then I gravitated away from classic theme park type MMOs.  I doubt there is anything WoW could do that would bring me back.  
  • uriel_mafessuriel_mafess Member UncommonPosts: 244
    edited August 17
    shouldn't this "article" contain the words "sponsored" on top? Because there is no way this isn't paid unless writer is a Blizzard activist.

    This new WoW is clearly a game intended for 20-30-40-50 year old kids. People that got freezed in their youth. No matter they "work" and "pay bills" (I believe you call them liberals in the Us) they are essentially childs that want easy, safe and boring colourful vacuous and empty entertainment.

    The plight that has burnt down hollywood blockbusters brought to gaming.
  • jbombardjbombard Member UncommonPosts: 599
    The world is mostly a lobby for small group instanced content. Also buying the xpack doesn't give you game time. Which is pretty much priced as a full game... You then have to pay another $15 to play the game you just bought... for only 1 month. In this day and age where there are Game passes that you allow you to play AAA newly released games for less than a sub cost, it is hard to see the value of a WoW sub. If the xpacks were free and you just paid for a sub then maybe... Or if a significant amount of content was released every month then maybe... However the reality is you pay $15 a month for a game you already purchased with content droughts that last several months at a time. But hey to each their own.
  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,099

    sabrefoxx said:

    Are you sure it's only the 10th expansion? Are you sure it's not the 12312315234125167th expansion? This game has existed for too long. IT needs to die. I couldn't care less about WoW. I played for a time during my youth and that was all I needed. I don't need a rehash.



    Oh so it's all about you and not the millions of people still playing it? Gtfo dude lol. What a shit attitude.
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  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 416
    edited August 17
    How will MMORPG make money if the FTC bans paid, fake and misleading reviews of products? That is the real question that should be on the front page.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    How will MMORPG make money if the FTC bans paid, fake and misleading reviews of products? That is the real question that should be on the front page.
    Well first of all they won't.  But if they did they would simply state they aren't reviews but write them as if they were.
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385
    WoW is not what it used to be
    I cant in all honesty call it a MMORPG anymore 
    It is a SP game with lobby for dungeons
    I don't get this argument that many in this thread, critical of WOW, constantly rehash. The game is what you put into it. If you want a lobby sim with small group content, you can have it. But like many online games, its up to you as the player to determine what you want. Sure I can raid and do dungeons, but I can also do quests, collect transmogs, run old content that I may have missed, level alts, and many other things. 

    WOW like other MMOs or online games give me options. No two nights of content are the same unless I choose to do that. The last time I raided (in terms of progression) was in Mists of Pandaria. And I might in the new expansion or I might not. But its up to me to decide and I am simply happy that I have options to do the content I want.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    WOW is solo friendly but they definitely devote a lot of energy for mythic dungeons and raids.  they so badly want it to be an esport when it never will be.
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,036
    Elidien_ga said:
    WoW is not what it used to be
    I cant in all honesty call it a MMORPG anymore 
    It is a SP game with lobby for dungeons
    I don't get this argument that many in this thread, critical of WOW, constantly rehash. The game is what you put into it. If you want a lobby sim with small group content, you can have it. But like many online games, its up to you as the player to determine what you want. Sure I can raid and do dungeons, but I can also do quests, collect transmogs, run old content that I may have missed, level alts, and many other things. 

    WOW like other MMOs or online games give me options. No two nights of content are the same unless I choose to do that. The last time I raided (in terms of progression) was in Mists of Pandaria. And I might in the new expansion or I might not. But its up to me to decide and I am simply happy that I have options to do the content I want.
    You dont get to even see other ppl except 3-4 others in big cities
    It has been instanced to hell doing quests alone is not an MMORPG

    Is this trolling? It's hard to tell on this board.

    On other boards when someone says something so obviously wrong it's definitely trolling.

    But, I think you might actually be serious.
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  • XiaokiXiaoki Member EpicPosts: 4,036
    Xiaoki said:
    Elidien_ga said:
    WoW is not what it used to be
    I cant in all honesty call it a MMORPG anymore 
    It is a SP game with lobby for dungeons
    I don't get this argument that many in this thread, critical of WOW, constantly rehash. The game is what you put into it. If you want a lobby sim with small group content, you can have it. But like many online games, its up to you as the player to determine what you want. Sure I can raid and do dungeons, but I can also do quests, collect transmogs, run old content that I may have missed, level alts, and many other things. 

    WOW like other MMOs or online games give me options. No two nights of content are the same unless I choose to do that. The last time I raided (in terms of progression) was in Mists of Pandaria. And I might in the new expansion or I might not. But its up to me to decide and I am simply happy that I have options to do the content I want.
    You dont get to even see other ppl except 3-4 others in big cities
    It has been instanced to hell doing quests alone is not an MMORPG

    Is this trolling? It's hard to tell on this board.

    On other boards when someone says something so obviously wrong it's definitely trolling.

    But, I think you might actually be serious.
    Have you played recently?
    I gave it a shot this june after being away for 10 years it was  nothing like the wow I used to know 
    I made 6-7 chars and played through different xpacs through the time travelling thing they have
    In every zone I was alone Im not kidding and stormwind and the other big cities empty because instancing is overused

    Yes, I am playing currently and I just checked Stormwind and Orgrimmar.

    At 3:30am Monday morning there were 10 people in each city and 40 people in Valdrakken, the current expansion's capitol.

    You can complain about instanced content if you want but there is no reason to outright lie.


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