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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Season 2 Is Off To A Great Start: Episodes 1-3 Review | MM

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  • cameltosiscameltosis Member LegendaryPosts: 3,832
    I'm one of those who didn't make it through Season 1 or RoP, and I have no intention of watching season 2.


    My main issue is that it was simply badly made. Bad writing, bad acting, bad costumes and set design. The butchering of Tolkiens work is a lesser issue to me.


    When it comes to adaptations, I can deal with departures from the original source material. Such things are unavoidable when adapting a piece of work from one medium to another, as well as adapting a piece from one generation to another. What people are interested in today is obviously different to what people were interested in back in the 1940s and 1950s.


    What I DO need to see is:



    1) Good quality - writing, acting, sets, CGI etc.

    Faithfulness to source material is totally independent from good quality writing, acting etc. You could be completely faithful, but have no budget so your sets look shit and you can't hire good actors. Or you could have tons of money, and just hire a shit person for the job. This is why I really disliked Star Wars Eps 7-9: I feel these films were just really badly written, especially Rian Johnson's travesty.


    2) Internal Consistency

    Is your adaptation internally consistent? Does it actually make sense? This is why I didn't like The Acolyte. I actually quite liked the show, I thought the acting was pretty good, the story was OK, the sets were good. Manny Jacinto especially stood out for me, and gave us some of the best lightsaber fights since Revenge of the Sith. BUT, The Acolyte was not internally consistent with the rest of the Star Wars cinematic universe. It had some really stupid stuff in it.


    3) Faithfulness to Core Concept / Ideas

    Every IP has something that sits at it's core that is fundamental. Something like LotR is basically a pure good vs evil story, very basic, but set in a very detailed world. Muddying the waters with all it's shades of grey gets too far away from the fundamental good vs evil. Anyone here watched The Foundation series? Asimovs foundation series has psychohistory sitting at the heart of the books, guiding everything. Yet it is clear the TV writers dont understand that, so whilst I think the show was excellent in most regards, it completely failed in it's fundamental understanding of psychohistory and it's role in the story. I'm fine with changing small details, but changing the core concept? Na.
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    Popcorn! Pumpkin seeds!
  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Tolkien's work, like many other fantasy and sci-fi stories like Star Wars and Harry Potter, is the story of good and evil.  But I would argue its not pure good and pure evil. I think we see this with these IP's that the war between good and evil has many shades of grey. I do not think Rings of Power changed this at all. Sauron is still evil but the nature of man (which is an inherent argument in Tolkien's work) is grey at best. Even men who try and be good can be corrupted. This is why certain characters rejecting the ring is such a big deal and why its a Hobbit that takes the burden of destroying it.

    When you look at what Tolkien left, especially the gaps in the material, combined with what content the Rings of Power production can use (they do not have access to it all), its going to develop some grey. In addition, its going to develop some gaps that will have to be filled in. They are having to condense thousands of years into a workable timeline which is challenging enough, much less the gaps that Tolkien never filled in or left little details about.
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    The CGI and everything available in modern shows is mind blowing, but then I was raised on Star Trek and old Godzilla movies where it was obvious the monsters where men in cheap rubber suits.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Wargfoot said:
    The CGI and everything available in modern shows is mind blowing, but then I was raised on Star Trek and old Godzilla movies where it was obvious the monsters where men in cheap rubber suits.
    The problem is that you can come to rely on it too much. I can remember in Clone Wars watching a CGI chase sequence that was amazing but never seemed like it was going to end. Once you start using CGI as a time filler you know it is going too far.
  • harken33harken33 Member UncommonPosts: 286
    Kind of telling that an article about a TV / streaming show, not a game,  is one of the most viewed and commented on in quite some time here. Myself i am going to wait until the series is completed before bothering to dive in, can avoid bad endings and early cancellations that way.

    The hardcore Lord of the Rings fans (like other passionate fan-bases) are all united for basic LOTR discussions but seem to become VERY divided, VERY quickly when discussions delve deeper past i love Lord of the Rings. Being a casual fan is probably a plus when dealing with new interpretations of old material.


    Surely somebody can be considered an expert on this lore? Is there someone to rule them all?
     
    comic book guy  THIS IS WHY THE LORD OF THE RINGS CANT BE MADE INTO A MOVIE HE HOLDS A MASTERS DEGREE IN FOLKLORE AND MYTHOLOGY HE TRANSLATED THE LORD OF THE RINGS INTO KLINGON AS PART OF HIS THESIS  image tagged in comic book guy  made w Imgflip meme maker


    I was going to post something i thought was ludicrous like a Hobbit Vs Alien meme or something but when looking for one i found several SERIOUS discussions around the concept of the Sigourney Weaver Alien invading and how Middle Earth could or could not fend them off, Sauron, Smaug etc, so i backed away.





    WargfootScot
  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385
    For many of the fan bases, the argument comes down to new content that does not fit that fans interpretation or view of their fandom. And I can totally understand why someone does not like Rings of Power or Star Wars Acolyte or whatever the new content is for whatever fanbase. But, to me, the alternative is truly awful - NO content at all.

    I am older (pushing 50s) and one of the highlights of my life was that Empire Strikes Back was my first movie as a kid. Fast forward to episode 7 and I took my son to his first movie which was also Star Wars. That, to me, is very cool. My youngest now has expressed interest in the LOTR War of the Rohirrim that comes out in December.  I am no anime fan but I will go see it and will take him if appropriate (not seen a rating yet but assume PG-13). My wife and I met a few years after Return of the King was released and she and I are the only two people who have the Minas Tirith collector's edition of the movie that I know of and it was cool when we met and started dating to realize this.

    My point is having this new content helped form lasting memories and connections. Sure, I do not think Star Wars episode 7-9 is anywhere as good as 4-6 but I am happy to have them. Maybe my kids will form lasting memories down the road around this or other content that they love. I am just happy to have new content come out. New content means new fans which means a continuation of the content. And if Dragon*Con was any indication this past weekend, new generations are loving all things like Star Wars and LOTR and Harry Potter and.... That makes me very happy.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    For many of the fan bases, the argument comes down to new content that does not fit that fans interpretation or view of their fandom. And I can totally understand why someone does not like Rings of Power or Star Wars Acolyte or whatever the new content is for whatever fanbase. But, to me, the alternative is truly awful - NO content at all.

    I am older (pushing 50s) and one of the highlights of my life was that Empire Strikes Back was my first movie as a kid. Fast forward to episode 7 and I took my son to his first movie which was also Star Wars. That, to me, is very cool. My youngest now has expressed interest in the LOTR War of the Rohirrim that comes out in December.  I am no anime fan but I will go see it and will take him if appropriate (not seen a rating yet but assume PG-13). My wife and I met a few years after Return of the King was released and she and I are the only two people who have the Minas Tirith collector's edition of the movie that I know of and it was cool when we met and started dating to realize this.

    My point is having this new content helped form lasting memories and connections. Sure, I do not think Star Wars episode 7-9 is anywhere as good as 4-6 but I am happy to have them. Maybe my kids will form lasting memories down the road around this or other content that they love. I am just happy to have new content come out. New content means new fans which means a continuation of the content. And if Dragon*Con was any indication this past weekend, new generations are loving all things like Star Wars and LOTR and Harry Potter and.... That makes me very happy.
    Might I add a new alternative? The alternative to poor to average new films and TV is good content? It is not just the lore, I have not seen it but a SW fan friend said the best thing about Acolyte was the light sabre fights they were great...nothing else was good.

    I do somewhat agree, we all have dividing lines about what is lore based and what is not, but here the actual quality of the series is in question. Did you enjoy them yourself, how would you rate them? To me if they are not good those lasting memories won't be made, that saddens me.

    You got an awesome by the way for being connected to the missus by the Return of the King. :)
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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Scot said:
    snip
    Might I add a new alternative? The alternative to poor to average new films and TV is good content? It is not just the lore, I have not seen it but a SW fan friend said the best thing about Acolyte was the light sabre fights they were great...nothing else was good.

    I do somewhat agree, we all have dividing lines about what is lore based and what is not, but here the actual quality of the series is in question. Did you enjoy them yourself, how would you rate them? To me if they are not good those lasting memories won't be made, that saddens me.

    You got an awesome by the way for being connected to the missus by the Return of the King. :)
    Oh I enjoyed them because they were Star Wars. I was very critical of them but the enjoyment was there. Everytime I sit in a theater and hear the Star Wars theme, its heaven to me. At the end of the day, it comes down to enjoyment and that's what matters. Like with The Last Jedi, initially I was MEH about it, but the more I have seen it, the better it gets.

    For The Acolyte, I loved the fights yes but it also was an interesting look at the Force but also a mystery which was interesting. It reminded me a lot of some of the darker stories from SW: TOR.  Not my favorite by far but I thought it was much better than many gave it credit for. 

    I love Rings of Power. Sure the acting can be stilted and all of that, and I may disagree here or there, but I get to see the Second Age on screen and that is awesome. I would rate it a 7-8 out of 10 (in line with most consensus reviews) and thats a good score. :) I am fleeting with my 9-10s. 
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    edited September 4
    Scot said:
    snip
    Might I add a new alternative? The alternative to poor to average new films and TV is good content? It is not just the lore, I have not seen it but a SW fan friend said the best thing about Acolyte was the light sabre fights they were great...nothing else was good.

    I do somewhat agree, we all have dividing lines about what is lore based and what is not, but here the actual quality of the series is in question. Did you enjoy them yourself, how would you rate them? To me if they are not good those lasting memories won't be made, that saddens me.

    You got an awesome by the way for being connected to the missus by the Return of the King. :)
    Oh I enjoyed them because they were Star Wars. I was very critical of them but the enjoyment was there. Everytime I sit in a theater and hear the Star Wars theme, heaven to me. At the end of the day, it comes down to enjoyment and that's what matters. Like with The Last Jedi, initially I was MEH about it, but the more I have seen it, the better it gets.


    The Last Jedi broke me.  Prior to that I was actually at the Star Wars Celebration convention in Orlando where there released the trailer, had Rian Johnson there, was very hyped despite a so-so The Force Awakens.   But that movie just broke me. I still to this day haven’t watched Episode 9.

    Space Leia, Grumpy Luke… discarding threads from TFA… 

    I’m a SW nerd. But they broke me.  I’ll watch the TV shows. I actually enjoyed Ahsoka.  Loved the Rebels touch points even if some of it was less than stellar.  But it was new… they built on what had come before.  Where it seemed to me that TLJ just crapped on everything before it (including The Force Awakens)


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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    I'd say the fans being so passionate about it would indicate some sort of success.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    edited September 4
    Wargfoot said:
    I'd say the fans being so passionate about it would indicate some sort of success.

    Not really. 

    If they are passionate and WATCH, then sure.  But if it turns the fans off (like The Last Jedi did to me) then no, it's a failure.

    Only Amazon knows what their viewer numbers really are so that would be the metric. How many people watched, what percent made it to the end? And how is Season 2 compared to that?

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  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385
    @Slapshot1188 The biggest issue with 7-9 is just the disconnect between the filmmakers. Thematically each movie is very different and you can tell it. I had to learn to enjoy each movie individually as they have their moments. 

    My all-time least favorite is actually episode 2 for many reasons.
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  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662
    harken33 said:
    Kind of telling that an article about a TV / streaming show, not a game,  is one of the most viewed and commented on in quite some time here. 
    I will say, this has surprised us as well. I was actually afraid we were going to get a ton of crap for writing about shows, from Fallout to this. But it's showing us that there is an audience for it - and it's a reminder of why every major gaming site out there covers entertainment now too.

    In the last week this has been our most viewed article by a long shot, and our most commented. So we'll likely be doing more of this, though we'll be selective on the shows we do cover moving forward. 
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  • WargfootWargfoot Member EpicPosts: 1,406
    lotrlore said:
    harken33 said:
    Kind of telling that an article about a TV / streaming show, not a game,  is one of the most viewed and commented on in quite some time here. 
    I will say, this has surprised us as well. I was actually afraid we were going to get a ton of crap for writing about shows, from Fallout to this. But it's showing us that there is an audience for it - and it's a reminder of why every major gaming site out there covers entertainment now too.

    In the last week this has been our most viewed article by a long shot, and our most commented. So we'll likely be doing more of this, though we'll be selective on the shows we do cover moving forward. 
    I ran out and grabbed the MMORPGTomatos.com domain name.
    I'll sell it to you guys for $500.00.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    Wargfoot said:
    lotrlore said:
    harken33 said:
    Kind of telling that an article about a TV / streaming show, not a game,  is one of the most viewed and commented on in quite some time here. 
    I will say, this has surprised us as well. I was actually afraid we were going to get a ton of crap for writing about shows, from Fallout to this. But it's showing us that there is an audience for it - and it's a reminder of why every major gaming site out there covers entertainment now too.

    In the last week this has been our most viewed article by a long shot, and our most commented. So we'll likely be doing more of this, though we'll be selective on the shows we do cover moving forward. 
    I ran out and grabbed the MMORPGTomatos.com domain name.
    I'll sell it to you guys for $500.00.


    I grabbed mmorpgtomatoes.com 


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    lotrlore said:
    harken33 said:
    Kind of telling that an article about a TV / streaming show, not a game,  is one of the most viewed and commented on in quite some time here. 
    I will say, this has surprised us as well. I was actually afraid we were going to get a ton of crap for writing about shows, from Fallout to this. But it's showing us that there is an audience for it - and it's a reminder of why every major gaming site out there covers entertainment now too.

    In the last week this has been our most viewed article by a long shot, and our most commented. So we'll likely be doing more of this, though we'll be selective on the shows we do cover moving forward. 
    Is it a MMO? Come on lets have to have a laugh about that now, we have fielded comments like that for so long on here I can't take them seriously anymore. :)
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  • harken33harken33 Member UncommonPosts: 286
    lotrlore said:
    harken33 said:
    Kind of telling that an article about a TV / streaming show, not a game,  is one of the most viewed and commented on in quite some time here. 
    I will say, this has surprised us as well. I was actually afraid we were going to get a ton of crap for writing about shows, from Fallout to this. But it's showing us that there is an audience for it - and it's a reminder of why every major gaming site out there covers entertainment now too.

    In the last week this has been our most viewed article by a long shot, and our most commented. So we'll likely be doing more of this, though we'll be selective on the shows we do cover moving forward. 

    Makes perfect sense, only so many times people can talk about failed Kick-starter MMORPG's and it seems that many new Sci-fi and Fantasy shows on the horizon are tied into gaming in some manner. I think Dune Prophecy is out in November.
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  • QMDad2QMDad2 Member UncommonPosts: 42
    edited September 5
    Scot said:
    snip
    Might I add a new alternative? The alternative to poor to average new films and TV is good content? It is not just the lore, I have not seen it but a SW fan friend said the best thing about Acolyte was the light sabre fights they were great...nothing else was good.

    I do somewhat agree, we all have dividing lines about what is lore based and what is not, but here the actual quality of the series is in question. Did you enjoy them yourself, how would you rate them? To me if they are not good those lasting memories won't be made, that saddens me.

    You got an awesome by the way for being connected to the missus by the Return of the King. :)
    Oh I enjoyed them because they were Star Wars. I was very critical of them but the enjoyment was there. Everytime I sit in a theater and hear the Star Wars theme, its heaven to me. At the end of the day, it comes down to enjoyment and that's what matters. Like with The Last Jedi, initially I was MEH about it, but the more I have seen it, the better it gets.

    For The Acolyte, I loved the fights yes but it also was an interesting look at the Force but also a mystery which was interesting. It reminded me a lot of some of the darker stories from SW: TOR.  Not my favorite by far but I thought it was much better than many gave it credit for. 

    I love Rings of Power. Sure the acting can be stilted and all of that, and I may disagree here or there, but I get to see the Second Age on screen and that is awesome. I would rate it a 7-8 out of 10 (in line with most consensus reviews) and thats a good score. :) I am fleeting with my 9-10s. 
    People can enjoy whatever they want, but in no way is RoP a 7-8 or fleeting with 9-10.  

    I'm as big of an Lotr nerd as anyone but this show is bad, really bad.  The writing, acting, special affects just about everything in this show is bad and look like a low budget sci-fi channel show.

    If RoP is being rated even at a 7 the original trilogy would be a a 100 on your scale of 1-10. They were made 23 years ago. 

    Again enjoy whatever you want but take off the blinders a bit. 
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    QMDad2 said:
    Scot said:
    snip
    Might I add a new alternative? The alternative to poor to average new films and TV is good content? It is not just the lore, I have not seen it but a SW fan friend said the best thing about Acolyte was the light sabre fights they were great...nothing else was good.

    I do somewhat agree, we all have dividing lines about what is lore based and what is not, but here the actual quality of the series is in question. Did you enjoy them yourself, how would you rate them? To me if they are not good those lasting memories won't be made, that saddens me.

    You got an awesome by the way for being connected to the missus by the Return of the King. :)
    Oh I enjoyed them because they were Star Wars. I was very critical of them but the enjoyment was there. Everytime I sit in a theater and hear the Star Wars theme, its heaven to me. At the end of the day, it comes down to enjoyment and that's what matters. Like with The Last Jedi, initially I was MEH about it, but the more I have seen it, the better it gets.

    For The Acolyte, I loved the fights yes but it also was an interesting look at the Force but also a mystery which was interesting. It reminded me a lot of some of the darker stories from SW: TOR.  Not my favorite by far but I thought it was much better than many gave it credit for. 

    I love Rings of Power. Sure the acting can be stilted and all of that, and I may disagree here or there, but I get to see the Second Age on screen and that is awesome. I would rate it a 7-8 out of 10 (in line with most consensus reviews) and thats a good score. :) I am fleeting with my 9-10s. 
    People can enjoy whatever they want, but in no way is RoP a 7-8 or fleeting with 9-10.  

    I'm as big of an Lotr nerd as anyone but this show is bad, really bad.  The writing, acting, special affects just about everything in this show is bad and look like a low budget sci-fi channel show.

    If RoP is being rated even at a 7 the original trilogy would be a a 100 on your scale of 1-10. They were made 23 years ago. 

    Again enjoy whatever you want but take off the blinders a bit. 
    That’s the problem here, he doesn’t have blinders on he thinks it’s a 7 and you don’t.

    He’s probably not looking at it the same way you are. And good for him.

    As I said earlier the kids who are watching this stuff and loving it have the right idea.

    But as soon as you get people saying they are nerds or they know everything about a property then that’s when things get dicey. Because they are evaluating this stuff on a whole different level and in some cases have their own detailed ideas about how these things should be.

     I’m thinking the people who don’t really know a property are probably in a better place to enjoy this stuff for what it is and not for what others think it should be.
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    If you don't enjoy or hate the same things I do, you're wrong.
    Deal with it.
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    edited September 5
    Wargfoot said:
    If you don't enjoy or hate the same things I do, you're wrong.
    Deal with it.
    What if I like and dislike the same thing, but with different intensity?

    Post edited by Slapshot1188 on

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  • QMDad2QMDad2 Member UncommonPosts: 42
    Sovrath said:
    QMDad2 said:
    Scot said:
    snip
    Might I add a new alternative? The alternative to poor to average new films and TV is good content? It is not just the lore, I have not seen it but a SW fan friend said the best thing about Acolyte was the light sabre fights they were great...nothing else was good.

    I do somewhat agree, we all have dividing lines about what is lore based and what is not, but here the actual quality of the series is in question. Did you enjoy them yourself, how would you rate them? To me if they are not good those lasting memories won't be made, that saddens me.

    You got an awesome by the way for being connected to the missus by the Return of the King. :)
    Oh I enjoyed them because they were Star Wars. I was very critical of them but the enjoyment was there. Everytime I sit in a theater and hear the Star Wars theme, its heaven to me. At the end of the day, it comes down to enjoyment and that's what matters. Like with The Last Jedi, initially I was MEH about it, but the more I have seen it, the better it gets.

    For The Acolyte, I loved the fights yes but it also was an interesting look at the Force but also a mystery which was interesting. It reminded me a lot of some of the darker stories from SW: TOR.  Not my favorite by far but I thought it was much better than many gave it credit for. 

    I love Rings of Power. Sure the acting can be stilted and all of that, and I may disagree here or there, but I get to see the Second Age on screen and that is awesome. I would rate it a 7-8 out of 10 (in line with most consensus reviews) and thats a good score. :) I am fleeting with my 9-10s. 
    People can enjoy whatever they want, but in no way is RoP a 7-8 or fleeting with 9-10.  

    I'm as big of an Lotr nerd as anyone but this show is bad, really bad.  The writing, acting, special affects just about everything in this show is bad and look like a low budget sci-fi channel show.

    If RoP is being rated even at a 7 the original trilogy would be a a 100 on your scale of 1-10. They were made 23 years ago. 

    Again enjoy whatever you want but take off the blinders a bit. 
    That’s the problem here, he doesn’t have blinders on he thinks it’s a 7 and you don’t.

    He’s probably not looking at it the same way you are. And good for him.

    As I said earlier the kids who are watching this stuff and loving it have the right idea.

    But as soon as you get people saying they are nerds or they know everything about a property then that’s when things get dicey. Because they are evaluating this stuff on a whole different level and in some cases have their own detailed ideas about how these things should be.

     I’m thinking the people who don’t really know a property are probably in a better place to enjoy this stuff for what it is and not for what others think it should be.
    That's fair and this isn't a I don't like it you can't like it discussion.   This show is just poorly written,  acting is poor and overall appearance like I said is low budget sci-fi channel show.  

    Hey like whatever you want but you cant take someone serious if they are claiming this show is a 9-10 which is saying its one of the best shows of all time.
  • Elidien_gaElidien_ga Member UncommonPosts: 385
    I did not say its a 9-10 or even near it. Its a solid 7-8 and that puts it in line with many critical reviews. I am a very detailed cinema and tv critic when it comes to production. I look at things very differently than many people. I look at camera shots, the use of lighting and sound, direction, framing, etc... I absolutely love Wes Anderson movies for they WAY they are filmed. 

    So yes Rings of Power is easily a 7-8 which is a fine rating. I know Tolkien well. I took classes on Tolkien. I studied what Tolkien studied to form a foundation of LOTR. I respect what Rings of Power is doing just like what Jackson did with the films. Neither are true to Tolkien's work but both are solid adaptations. I can enjoy each for what they are. I do rate the movies higher for sheer quality of production, not for loyalty to Tolkien's work.
  • QMDad2QMDad2 Member UncommonPosts: 42
    I did not say its a 9-10 or even near it. Its a solid 7-8 and that puts it in line with many critical reviews. I am a very detailed cinema and tv critic when it comes to production. I look at things very differently than many people. I look at camera shots, the use of lighting and sound, direction, framing, etc... I absolutely love Wes Anderson movies for they WAY they are filmed. 

    So yes Rings of Power is easily a 7-8 which is a fine rating. I know Tolkien well. I took classes on Tolkien. I studied what Tolkien studied to form a foundation of LOTR. I respect what Rings of Power is doing just like what Jackson did with the films. Neither are true to Tolkien's work but both are solid adaptations. I can enjoy each for what they are. I do rate the movies higher for sheer quality of production, not for loyalty to Tolkien's work.
    You said " I am fleeting with 9-10s"

    Unfortunately like most things these days "critics" are purely political, user reviews will give you a much better understanding of what a show or movie is about. 

    Metacritc critics gave it a 70, users gave it 2.9 which I think the user score is pretty fair.
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