PlayStation 5 Pro Officially Revealed By Sony, Will Cost $699 USD | MMORPG.com

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PlayStation 5 Pro Officially Revealed By Sony, Will Cost $699 USD | MMORPG.com

Sony has officially revealed the PlayStation 5 Pro. The new console will hit store shelves on November 7th and will sell for $699.99 USD for a version without a disk drive.

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Terazon

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

Herithius

Been playing on consoles since the 80s but 3 years ago made the switch to PC and haven’t looked back. Besides Nintendo all the games seem to make it to PC eventually.

LeFantome

$700 without....... a disk drive.

2024...

Vrika

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Xiaoki

LeFantome said:

$700 without....... a disk drive.

2024...

When 80% of your sales are digital you get rid of the dead weight.

Terazon

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Agreed but what number of consumers does that number represent? PS5 has sold tremendously well already. If their target demographic is those without a console or are looking to buy this or that they are going to struggle to deliver on their sales goals and will struggle to deliver on a favorable ROI. Add to this it is a $700 USD console. I am just not seeing it. 

Vrika

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Agreed but what number of consumers does that number represent? PS5 has sold tremendously well already. If their target demographic is those without a console or are looking to buy this or that they are going to struggle to deliver on their sales goals and will struggle to deliver on a favorable ROI. Add to this it is a $700 USD console. I am just not seeing it. 

They are still selling more than a million consoles per month.

Source: https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

Aeander

Nah. I'll just save for the PS6 and the next gen Nintendo console.

Talraekk

Who constantly buys consoles? You use the current gen until you basically can't anymore and upgrade. I wanted a PS5 but for the... 12-18 months I had money for it I couldn't find it. After that, the... less than a handful of exclusive games I wanted for it weren't worth purchasing the damn thing anyway. I'd buy the next gen, if in price range, when I had money.. But I feel consoles, at least in my instance aren't worth it. I've got a pc capable of making them footnotes now, and while I love SOME of the console exclusives, I also like my pc controls... I guess more than any console now....

Gorwe

LeFantome said:

$700 without....... a disk drive.

2024...

Wow. Those are some bold ideas. That are gonna leave them bald.

Zandog

An $800 system with the drive, which has pretty good specs tbh, isn't that bad? If Sony could ship a minimal like operating system (think a more robust browser, partner with google for basic word processing, email), that comes as standard with a mouse and keyboard and supported a closed eco system kinda like Apple's, I think this would do really well, even beyond how well already does.

Those wanting to take the dive into PC's would have a reason not to bother with a $1k total package price tag. Especially when a gaming PC will cost you twice as much. Sony's culture toward gaming would have to shift more toward the way Microsoft does with Xbox and I just don't see that happening anytime soon.

cheyane

I am just praying all the games I want to play come on PC. I only have a PS4 and my Xbox is a 360 probably long dead. Well there is always emulation 

Terazon

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Agreed but what number of consumers does that number represent? PS5 has sold tremendously well already. If their target demographic is those without a console or are looking to buy this or that they are going to struggle to deliver on their sales goals and will struggle to deliver on a favorable ROI. Add to this it is a $700 USD console. I am just not seeing it. 

They are still selling more than a million consoles per month.

Source: https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

These numbers are not current.

Sony shared that in Q1 2024 (which the link does not show) they sold 2.4 million PS5s. I am one of those btw. 
PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold | Push Square

From April to June 2024 their sales dropped 27%
PS5 Console Sales Are Down (gamerant.com)




48,000+ on this one poll but there are poll after polls of people not seeming interested in what Sony is trying to do here.
On top of that, the PS5 price went up in some regions and the controller prices just went up worldwide. 
Their revenue strategy is a bit confusing. 

IceAge

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s

I have zero interest in this.

Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.

I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Agreed but what number of consumers does that number represent? PS5 has sold tremendously well already. If their target demographic is those without a console or are looking to buy this or that they are going to struggle to deliver on their sales goals and will struggle to deliver on a favorable ROI. Add to this it is a $700 USD console. I am just not seeing it. 

They are still selling more than a million consoles per month.

Source: https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

These numbers are not current.

Sony shared that in Q1 2024 (which the link does not show) they sold 2.4 million PS5s. I am one of those btw. 
PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold | Push Square

From April to June 2024 their sales dropped 27%
PS5 Console Sales Are Down (gamerant.com)




48,000+ on this one poll but there are poll after polls of people not seeming interested in what Sony is trying to do here.
On top of that, the PS5 price went up in some regions and the controller prices just went up worldwide. 
Their revenue strategy is a bit confusing. 

Probably out of 40k users who voted no, half already owns a PS console , 5 or 4 and the other half, an Xbox. Also , add the "not interested in buying ANY console" in the 40k too since my half/half is a bit .. biased!

Anyway! I find it very good, that 15%, 7-8k from that 48k are willing to buy the PS5 Pro. That is a lot actually.

Xiaoki

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Agreed but what number of consumers does that number represent? PS5 has sold tremendously well already. If their target demographic is those without a console or are looking to buy this or that they are going to struggle to deliver on their sales goals and will struggle to deliver on a favorable ROI. Add to this it is a $700 USD console. I am just not seeing it. 

They are still selling more than a million consoles per month.

Source: https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

These numbers are not current.

Sony shared that in Q1 2024 (which the link does not show) they sold 2.4 million PS5s. I am one of those btw. 
PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold | Push Square

From April to June 2024 their sales dropped 27%
PS5 Console Sales Are Down (gamerant.com)




48,000+ on this one poll but there are poll after polls of people not seeming interested in what Sony is trying to do here.
On top of that, the PS5 price went up in some regions and the controller prices just went up worldwide. 
Their revenue strategy is a bit confusing. 

What's confusing?

Is worldwide inflation leading to out of control currency conversion confusing?

Profit margins on hardware are razor thin so a weak Yen could cost Sony millions if they didn't raise prices.

Also, component costs are not going down because only a handful of production companies makes all the electronics for the entire world.

Nanfoodle

Aeander said:

Nah. I'll just save for the PS6 and the next gen Nintendo console.

My guess is when tech reviewers break this down, they will have the same thoughts as you.

Sovrath

Talraekk said:

Who constantly buys consoles? You use the current gen until you basically can't anymore and upgrade. I wanted a PS5 but for the... 12-18 months I had money for it I couldn't find it. After that, the... less than a handful of exclusive games I wanted for it weren't worth purchasing the damn thing anyway. I'd buy the next gen, if in price range, when I had money.. But I feel consoles, at least in my instance aren't worth it. I've got a pc capable of making them footnotes now, and while I love SOME of the console exclusives, I also like my pc controls... I guess more than any console now....

I think players who aren’t gamers and perhaps younger players with limited income buy consoles over a pc.

years ago a friend who liked games was given a pc but didn’t like the price tag of upgrading components or even researching them. He also didn’t like dealing with issues to get certain games running.

He bought a console and never looked back. 

Heck if they were more powerful and I could reliably use a mouse and keyboard I’d make them my staple machine. 

Wargfoot

LeFantome said:

$700 without....... a disk drive.

2024...

I was once of this opinion.
I cannot remember the last time I used a disk drive.

It is odd that they'd even offer a disk drive; or talk about a price without it.

Elidien_ga

Wargfoot said:

LeFantome said:

$700 without....... a disk drive.

2024...

I was once of this opinion.
I cannot remember the last time I used a disk drive.

It is odd that they'd even offer a disk drive; or talk about a price without it.

Last night I was reminiscing about the last time I stood in line at a store for a video game release (Burning Crusade WOW expansion). Now I am trying to remember the last time I bought a game on a disk. I think during covid I bought one of those puzzle game complications at Wal-Mart for like $10.For my PC or our Xbox, I truly cannot remember the last time we bought a game other than in the store via direct download. The last one may have been the ESO collector's edition at launch 10 years ago.

Vrika

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

Vrika said:

Terazon said:

I have 2 PS5s
I have zero interest in this.
Not sure, other than the FOMO crowd, what group they are going for here.
I also wonder if it will be worth it from an ROI perspective.

I think they are going mostly for those who are buying a new console anyway. People constantly buy new consoles, and this should get many big spenders to choose Playstation instead of XBox.

Whether anyone who already plays PS5 upgrades or not is less important, since consoles have low profit margin anyway. More of the profit is made through selling software, services and accessories to existing owners.

Agreed but what number of consumers does that number represent? PS5 has sold tremendously well already. If their target demographic is those without a console or are looking to buy this or that they are going to struggle to deliver on their sales goals and will struggle to deliver on a favorable ROI. Add to this it is a $700 USD console. I am just not seeing it. 

They are still selling more than a million consoles per month.

Source: https://sonyinteractive.com/en/our-company/business-data-sales/

These numbers are not current.

Sony shared that in Q1 2024 (which the link does not show) they sold 2.4 million PS5s. I am one of those btw. 
PS5 Sales Reach 60 Million Milestone, Now at 61.7 Million Consoles Sold | Push Square

From April to June 2024 their sales dropped 27%
PS5 Console Sales Are Down (gamerant.com)




48,000+ on this one poll but there are poll after polls of people not seeming interested in what Sony is trying to do here.
On top of that, the PS5 price went up in some regions and the controller prices just went up worldwide. 
Their revenue strategy is a bit confusing. 

PS5 has sold 61.7 million units compared to PS4's 117 million units. PS5 sales should be slowing down since it's already older product, but they should still have potential to sell more.

Also one of your links said that PS5 sales forecast for this fiscal year is 18 million units, so if anything my earlier comment about them selling more than a million consoles per month was conservative estimation.

Also I don't understand why you're complaining that my numbers aren't current. The link I posted has same numbers as both of the links you posted.

EDIT: Did you perhaps miss that the Q1 2024 means Q1 for Sony's fiscal year, which is April - June. It does not mean January - March even if it's named Q1 because fiscal years are not the same as calendar years /EDIT.

Wargfoot

The product doesn't come with the vertical stand ($29.00).
I hear all these complaints about the economy and yet this sort of thing is going to sell.

I don't know what is real anymore.

Dattelis

Can get some decent pre-built rigs for around the same price. People need to stop wanting playstation temporary exclusives so much. The only thing I feel is worth paying for on just exclusivity alone is the switch since Nintendo is stubborn.

WhiteLantern

Add a disk drive and full backwards compatibility all the way back to PS1 and I'll give you 700$. Otherwise, nope.

Another site I frequent is discussing the ramifications of this reveal on the eventual Switch successor's launch price. Interesting theories about what N will do based on how well this goes.

Theocritus

FOMO at its finest.....Gave up console gaming a long time ago and dont miss it one iota

Xiaoki

Dattelis said:

Can get some decent pre-built rigs for around the same price. People need to stop wanting playstation temporary exclusives so much. The only thing I feel is worth paying for on just exclusivity alone is the switch since Nintendo is stubborn.

I just checked Newegg and for $700 (without going over) the best I saw was a pre-built with an I5 and a RTX3060 which would be about on par with a PS5.