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Throne and Liberty Officially Released On PC, Xbox And PlayStation, Hits A Peak Player Count Over 32

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imageThrone and Liberty Officially Released On PC, Xbox And PlayStation, Hits A Peak Player Count Over 326K On Steam | MMORPG.com

Throne and Liberty's free-to-play launch has finally arrived, with Amazon publishing the MMO from NCSoft across PC, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series consoles.

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).
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  • RobokappRobokapp Member UncommonPosts: 146
    game sux.
    Sarla
  • TerazonTerazon Member RarePosts: 407
    I am surprised by it. I like it much more than I thought I would 
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  • HJ-NavarreHJ-Navarre Hero's Journey GMMember UncommonPosts: 114
    This game is fun. I hated it in Beta1, strangely loved it in Beta2, and am having a great time through EA and Official Launch. ... & it's F2P, so no big loss if it isn't your thing. Suggest doing a bit of research on ideal builds... and upgrading your equipment/skills 'correctly' as you level to 25.. 50.. beyond. It makes a huge difference. Enjoy the leveling process & don't rush through. My 2 cents.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,779

    Dattelis said:

    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).



    There's a difference between seeing something as a problem and solving it and making a design decision.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Next few weeks is what will have me trying the game. Looking forward to player feedback. From the masses. 
  • TokkenTokken Member EpicPosts: 3,644
    I have no expectations. The game is FUN because it's F2P. I don't have to spend any money on it.

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  • GinazGinaz Member RarePosts: 2,558
    I forgot I tried this a few months ago in a beta. I wasn't impressed with it then and that hasn't changed. I'll give it a bit more before I decide if I want to keep playing or not. It just feels kinda clunky to me.

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    Sovrath said:

    Dattelis said:

    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).



    There's a difference between seeing something as a problem and solving it and making a design decision.

    Dude, there's no way in hell you're gonna defend a 'design decision' like that.....
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    I expected somewhere like 200k, but .. seems it surprised me and many others.

    That's a good thing.


    Dattelis said:


    Sovrath said:



    Dattelis said:


    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).






    There's a difference between seeing something as a problem and solving it and making a design decision.



    Dude, there's no way in hell you're gonna defend a 'design decision' like that.....



    It is a design decision. Do you really believe that they couldn't actually add a 'char window' where it will show your equipped items and such?

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Hengist said:

    Tiller said:

    This number will do nothing but decrease overtime, especially now that WW3 is `in full swing.



    Captain obvious comment of the day.


    I mean, water is wet, the sky is blue, and MMO populations decrease over time.


    And of course, "War never changes"

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,779

    Dattelis said:


    Sovrath said:



    Dattelis said:


    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).






    There's a difference between seeing something as a problem and solving it and making a design decision.



    Dude, there's no way in hell you're gonna defend a 'design decision' like that.....



    Dude, if you look over my post history (no need to of course) or ask the fine folks in this thread, you'd see that I usually defend things like bag space limitations, weight limitations, fast travel limitations, slow leveling, losing xp on death, etc.

    Not sure why you're so incredulous about this but I believe limitations are a good thing.

    I'll add, in Lineage 2, my main mmorpg for many years, people would often swap gear as part of their pvp strategy because of the different bonuses. I think they might have added a timer for armor/robes but it's been a long time.

    Having bag space limitation means that there are less choices for you so you have to make harder choices. That on top of whatever else one needs for pvp.

    I only have few hours in this game so I've yet to really learn the ins and outs but I suspect they don't want people having access to everything they have when out in the field or perhaps a siege.

    Now, if that's not the case here, if different gear sets don't give you bonuses, don't give you significant advantages, then sure, why have the limitation. But I suspect that's the case.

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  • BorlucBorluc Member UncommonPosts: 262
    Cheer up folks. Free mmorpg with no strings attached. Im going to give it a try later today.
  • hovsep159hovsep159 Member UncommonPosts: 77
    edited October 2

    IceAge said:

    I expected somewhere like 200k, but .. seems it surprised me and many others.



    That's a good thing.





    Dattelis said:




    Sovrath said:





    Dattelis said:



    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).









    There's a difference between seeing something as a problem and solving it and making a design decision.





    Dude, there's no way in hell you're gonna defend a 'design decision' like that.....






    It is a design decision. Do you really believe that they couldn't actually add a 'char window' where it will show your equipped items and such?






    a design decision doesn't automaticly make it a good decision. there is a reason that character screens showing equiped gear has become standard. the only time you would make this decision is to make players buy more inventory space
  • LTBKLTBK Member UncommonPosts: 89

    IceAge said:


    It is a design decision. Do you really believe that they couldn't actually add a 'char window' where it will show your equipped items and such?






    It's there. Press P (default keybind). They're talking about gear taking up bag space despite being equiped, which while not very QoL friendly is a design decision, yeah.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,779
    hovsep159 said:

    IceAge said:

    I expected somewhere like 200k, but .. seems it surprised me and many others.



    That's a good thing.





    Dattelis said:




    Sovrath said:





    Dattelis said:



    I'll say the biggest sin this game has commited is having equipped gear take up bag space......this is like early 2000s game design (that even wow solved).









    There's a difference between seeing something as a problem and solving it and making a design decision.





    Dude, there's no way in hell you're gonna defend a 'design decision' like that.....






    It is a design decision. Do you really believe that they couldn't actually add a 'char window' where it will show your equipped items and such?






    a design decision doesn't automaticly make it a good decision. there is a reason that character screens showing equiped gear has become standard. the only time you would make this decision is to make players buy more inventory space
    Well that isn’t the only time a decision like this would be made. Having said that in this day and age of nickel and diming players, that’s not really beyond the pale.
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    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

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  • GermzypieGermzypie Member UncommonPosts: 169
    Can literally spend like 200 solient the first time and get 5 extra bag spaces. Think i am up to 150 spaces in my bag and the last time i purchased more was like 250k for 5 spaces. Of all the things to complain about, i dont see this as being one of them.
  • hupahupa Member UncommonPosts: 170
    Wasn't my thing. I got to the spiders and realized I wasn't having fun. Just another on rails action game.
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    edited October 2
    I remember back in the day gamers were up in arms over F2P and Cash shops. Today, its a moot point. 99% of the market is using that model. If you dont like it dont play it. You dont really have an option at that point. Even rock solid games that were pure sub and box price has moved to F2P or have a cash shop. If thats a problem, please tell me where you are playing games. I will follow you there lol
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    32 players? Impressive!
  • harken33harken33 Member UncommonPosts: 286
    edited October 2
    Nanfoodle said:
    I remember back in the day gamers were up in arms over F2P and Cash shops. Today, its a moot point. 99% of the market is using that model. If you dont like it dont play it. You dont really have an option at that point. Even rock solid games that were pure sub and box price has moved to F2P or have a cash shop. If thats a problem, please tell me where you are playing games. I will follow you there lol

    Some of the streams / videos look OK, and its free so guess I will lose a few hours at most if I hate it. Will download and maybe try this weekend.

    Ah yes, the old FTP article threads that used to be on the forums. I think Richard Aihoshi did that column Free Zone or something like that in 2010’ish covering the FTP option and Micro-transactions. There were some heated debates for sure back then.

    The posts themselves are gone now but I recall some of them (my memory may be a little off has been awhile):

    Kyleran was going on and on how he wished there was some way he could completely *own* his Eve spaceships. Some kind of unique Token attached so he could buy and sell them on the open market, outside the game.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    harken33 said:
    Nanfoodle said:
    I remember back in the day gamers were up in arms over F2P and Cash shops. Today, its a moot point. 99% of the market is using that model. If you dont like it dont play it. You dont really have an option at that point. Even rock solid games that were pure sub and box price has moved to F2P or have a cash shop. If thats a problem, please tell me where you are playing games. I will follow you there lol

    Some of the streams / videos look OK, and its free so guess I will lose a few hours at most if I hate it. Will download and maybe try this weekend.

    Ah yes, the old FTP article threads that used to be on the forums. I think Richard Aihoshi did that column Free Zone or something like that in 2010’ish covering the FTP option and Micro-transactions. There were some heated debates for sure back then.

    The posts themselves are gone now but I recall some of them (my memory may be a little off has been awhile):

    Kyleran was going on and on how he wished there was some way he could completely *own* his Eve spaceships. Some kind of unique Token attached so he could buy and sell them on the open market, outside the game.

    Scot kept saying that the Nintendo Wii was the greatest gaming system ever devised, and he would never need another Console as it was the very pinnacle of human gaming ingenuity.

    Slapshot was still a developer for Mortal Online back then and would give us the inside scoop on the studio and that Mortal Online was going to completely change the face of gaming. Remember his MO Forever tattoo?

    Sovrath heard the Jonas Brothers for the first time then said he was taking a break from gaming, posted about maybe picking up music.

     Such an innocent time B) <Names and or events may have been altered from reality>

    I can't be expected to take all the credit for the Wii, but I will take my share. :)

    We were correct though, F2P became the bane of MMOs we thought it would be. It followed a very similar cycle to what we have seen since then, new monetary system comes in, is at first not that abused and players ask "what is the problem". Then it gets worse and worse, I supposed the latest has been early access and crypto is up and coming.
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  • AvanahAvanah Member RarePosts: 1,627
    It has been Officially Un-installed from my PC just after 30 mins. I knew better but I was hoping. :)

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,779
    Avanah said:
    It has been Officially Un-installed from my PC just after 30 mins. I knew better but I was hoping. :)

    Not that I can't guess but what is it that you didn't like?
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  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,843
    Maybe for once in my life I'll actually look at a live stream later today. This game didn't really get much interest from me when I look at it. It doesn't surprise me that it has pretty good numbers trying it... because there isn't exactly much coming out.
    Sovrath
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