Yes and that was said, the action was taken on the level of the duping. Dup an item and just one and reported. No action. Interact with the dup on many levels, the more action was taken. Reporting is not new. Two things that are different. 1. AAA games like WoW did not even have a data base to deal with things like duping till 6 years in. Games like NW dont even care. 2. IS can track every part of an item. Who sold it, the money that was used can be tracked. You break down a dupped item into crafting resources where that went can all be tracked. Even resources used to advance the nod, just the advancement that were used with dupped gold were rolled back.
I also think allot of people will lie about them selves being innocent when they were not. I am also sure, they dont have their data reporting 100% nailed down. So I am sure some good players were effected as well.
You have to remember that WoW launched 20 years ago. Back then software and hardware required to do the kind of database tracking that is nowadays norm would have been so expensive that using it in a game would have been impractical.
It's good if Ashes is doing good job tracking stuff, but for an MMO that launches maybe around 2027, it's not really that unique or special.
I dont disagree but it is still not the norm for even AAA studios. Gamers talk about MMOs not taking any action on things like duping or bots. Why? It cuts into their bottom dollar. New World is famous for letting duping run rampant. Will be interesting to see in the coming weeks what this looks like with Ashes. If what they said about having better data reporting then anyone.
Yes and that was said, the action was taken on the level of the duping. Dup an item and just one and reported. No action. Interact with the dup on many levels, the more action was taken. Reporting is not new. Two things that are different. 1. AAA games like WoW did not even have a data base to deal with things like duping till 6 years in. Games like NW dont even care. 2. IS can track every part of an item. Who sold it, the money that was used can be tracked. You break down a dupped item into crafting resources where that went can all be tracked. Even resources used to advance the nod, just the advancement that were used with dupped gold were rolled back.
I also think allot of people will lie about them selves being innocent when they were not. I am also sure, they dont have their data reporting 100% nailed down. So I am sure some good players were effected as well.
You have to remember that WoW launched 20 years ago. Back then software and hardware required to do the kind of database tracking that is nowadays norm would have been so expensive that using it in a game would have been impractical.
It's good if Ashes is doing good job tracking stuff, but for an MMO that launches maybe around 2027, it's not really that unique or special.
I dont disagree but it is still not the norm for even AAA studios. Gamers talk about MMOs not taking any action on things like duping or bots. Why? It cuts into their bottom dollar. New World is famous for letting duping run rampant. Will be interesting to see in the coming weeks what this looks like with Ashes. If what they said about having better data reporting then anyone.
I'm just gonna say I'm skeptical as to this day I haven't seen anywhere that shows the amount of "referral" credit generated. They promised this years and years ago, and delayed and delayed.
Look, I hope you are right because this audience will absolutely abuse the crap out of exploits and dupes. And if they can track it and have the balls to BAN the offenders it would be fantastic.
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I am also sure, they dont have their data reporting 100% nailed down. So I am sure some good players were effected as well.
Pretty clear if they can go back to each point easily and see a dup, then they wouldnt be banning innocent people. There is zero reason to ban innocent people if you know exactly when the dup happens and by whom.
So its not about having their reporting 100% nailed down. If they are banning innocent people it means they are guessing and that the information is not percise enough to determine a dup from a non dup or they cant determine when it occured.
If they cant figure that out, then how are they going to ban a bunch of people at release based on assumptions.
Sounds like this tech isnt working or people are ALL lying about being innocent.
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Look, I hope you are right because this audience will absolutely abuse the crap out of exploits and dupes. And if they can track it and have the balls to BAN the offenders it would be fantastic.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Pretty clear if they can go back to each point easily and see a dup, then they wouldnt be banning innocent people. There is zero reason to ban innocent people if you know exactly when the dup happens and by whom.
So its not about having their reporting 100% nailed down. If they are banning innocent people it means they are guessing and that the information is not percise enough to determine a dup from a non dup or they cant determine when it occured.
If they cant figure that out, then how are they going to ban a bunch of people at release based on assumptions.
Sounds like this tech isnt working or people are ALL lying about being innocent.