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Expected/Promised Dark and Light feature list, what got me hooked

blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

This is what got me interested in this game, and if anyone can find me a game with almost all these features coming soon, please link me up, I would love to check it out, other wise I fear I'll be waiting 5+ years (based on mmorpg development cycles) before I again see a game having this list.

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What I want in any future game:

Huge World at least the size of DnL

Fantasy based

Land and Sea based

KvK

Trade routes that can be set up and attacked

Complex crafting

Gods that effect everything from Mobs/Crafting/War

Fort/Castle/City building, that can be upgraded

Mass Combat of at least 500 players, with siege

Politics, that includes land ownership/control, army building, the Lord class/Warrior class/Peasant class

Economic development along the lines of taxes, crops/farming, mob/farming, mining, trade routes

Massive view distance for immersion

One World for all

Strong roleplaying elements, GM's, Events, GM Quests on the fly (no loading)

Exploration including map making of resources/places of interest/enemy settlements

Real flight, as in Dragon/handgilders of DnL

Huge and interesting weather systems, real snow, real sandstorms, real waves, real wind

Extreme sports, like snow/sand boarding, parachuting, catapult launching

Migrating Mobs (non-linear placement of Mobs)

Interesting music, not modern music, something exotic/different

Constellations controling aspects of game life

Huge tameable mounts

Realistic drops from mobs

Mob hunting, not easy to find to just grind and camp, must work at it and truely hunt for your kill

.

Thats some of what I want. I realise DnL is working on getting many of these to work, but that is part the feature list that I like

Comments

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Just to add, the in game music really grows on you.

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  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    Anyone with a suggestion of a soon to be released game with most of this feature list?

    I would really like to know if one exists

  • PeaCeePeaCee Member Posts: 67
    "Their technique is quite insidious. Let's say they were hired to pump
    up PA (not like you need the buzz, but whatever...). Using one of the
    hundreds of shill accounts they have across the net, they post a new
    thread that says something like "hey guys, I've been looking for some
    new web comics to read. Anybody have any recommendations?" This is
    non-threatening, and gets the community engaged. They then wait a
    couple days and post again, this time with "Well, I asked some friends
    and they suggested I check out Penny Arcade . I
    thought it was pretty funny, although I didn't like all the cuss words.
    What do you guys think?" Again, seeking engagement, they now have
    stealthily inserted the client's link, thereby encouraging trial. It's
    all very measurable and very effective. You should see the monthly
    reports you get from these guys: everything is detailed."


    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=40621

    Bleh


  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130


    Originally posted by blacksac

    Anyone with a suggestion of a soon to be released game with most of this feature list?

    I would really like to know if one exists


    Age of Conan

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    You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    What does it matter what they promise. Hell only half of what is on that list is in the game and most of that is broken. They can't even get combat right, what makes you think that anything else will work. EQ 1 has better game play than this game.

    How long will people keep getting strung along by their promises. Old saying "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't"

    I miss DAoC

  • ValharanValharan Member Posts: 190

    Fully 75% of the things on that list arnt in game and don't work. Before I hear one more word about just launched I have 4 words for you that wins every argument. 6 years in development.

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045


    Originally posted by Tinybina

    Originally posted by blacksac

    Anyone with a suggestion of a soon to be released game with most of this feature list?
    I would really like to know if one exists



    Age of Conan

    .......






    Without a doubt I'll look at this one... thx for the suggestion




    Without a doubt I'll look at this one... thx for the suggestion



    Age of Conan

    .......






    Without a doubt I'll look at this one... thx for the suggestion




    Without a doubt I'll look at this one... thx for the suggestion
    Without a doubt I'll look at this one... thx for the suggestion
  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    ^Wow major screw up on the quoting

    To everyone else I'm looking for something like the list to replace DnL if it doesn't work out, so hold back on the indignation

  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020

    I have a feeling that Without a doubt he'll look at that one... and he's thankful for the suggestion

    Check out the latest e3 video at their site. All done with the engine. I'm waiting for it too.

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045


    Originally posted by tetsul

    I have a feeling that Without a doubt he'll look at that one... and he's thankful for the suggestion
    Check out the latest e3 video at their site. All done with the engine. I'm waiting for it too.



    Ok I just watched that video... and OMG! sweeeet! 

    I see this is one I will have to be part of, looks bloody nice... got some reading to do

  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020
    I just hope the character doesn't always have his mouth hanging open like that. Must be some old head injury that made him simple.
  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045


    Originally posted by tetsul
    I just hope the character doesn't always have his mouth hanging open like that. Must be some old head injury that made him simple.

    I noticed that too, but overall or 99% of it was dare I say "amazing"
  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221


    Originally posted by blacksac

    ^Wow major screw up on the quoting

    To everyone else I'm looking for something like the list to replace DnL if it doesn't work out, so hold back on the indignation


    Right now the only games im actively considering purchsing in the future are:
    - WAR
    - Vanguard
    - AoC
    - Gods and Heroes

    games im sort of considering but dont know much about:

    -Darkfall
    -Hero's Journey
    -LOTRO
    -Roma Victor

    currently my best hopes are on Vanguard and AoC. But Ive heard some great things about WAR and Gods and Heroes, and both of them had realy good video clips (in game footage).

    I suggest you check official sites and trailers for the first four games, and if you have time for the second four games I listed.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • MikeMongerMikeMonger Member Posts: 196


    Originally posted by blacksac

    ^Wow major screw up on the quoting

    To everyone else I'm looking for something like the list to replace DnL if it doesn't work out, so hold back on the indignation


    Mine's been doing that for weeks.  I usually have to go back and edit posts 2 or 3 times to take care of it.
  • Their technique is quite insidious. Let's say they were hired to pump up PA (not like you need the buzz, but whatever...). Using one of the hundreds of shill accounts they have across the net, they post a new thread that says something like "hey guys, I've been looking for some new web comics to read. Anybody have any recommendations?" This is non-threatening, and gets the community engaged. They then wait a couple days and post again, this time with "Well, I asked some friends and they suggested I check out Penny Arcade . I thought it was pretty funny, although I didn't like all the cuss words. What do you guys think?" Again, seeking engagement, they now have stealthily inserted the client's link, thereby encouraging trial. It's all very measurable and very effective. You should see the monthly reports you get from these guys: everything is detailed."


    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=40621

    Bleh

    Age of Conan - check it out so the DNL guys can maybe figure out how they did it and DNL can thus keep their promises.

  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by blacksac

    This is what got me interested in this game, and if anyone can find me a game with almost all these features coming soon, please link me up, I would love to check it out, other wise I fear I'll be waiting 5+ years (based on mmorpg development cycles) before I again see a game having this list.
    .
    What I want in any future game:

    Huge World at least the size of DnL

    Fantasy based

    Land and Sea based

    KvK

    Trade routes that can be set up and attacked

    Complex crafting

    Gods that effect everything from Mobs/Crafting/War

    Fort/Castle/City building, that can be upgraded

    Mass Combat of at least 500 players, with siege

    Politics, that includes land ownership/control, army building, the Lord class/Warrior class/Peasant class

    Economic development along the lines of taxes, crops/farming, mob/farming, mining, trade routes

    Massive view distance for immersion

    One World for all

    Strong roleplaying elements, GM's, Events, GM Quests on the fly (no loading)

    Exploration including map making of resources/places of interest/enemy settlements

    Real flight, as in Dragon/handgilders of DnL

    Huge and interesting weather systems, real snow, real sandstorms, real waves, real wind

    Extreme sports, like snow/sand boarding, parachuting, catapult launching

    Migrating Mobs (non-linear placement of Mobs)

    Interesting music, not modern music, something exotic/different

    Constellations controling aspects of game life

    Huge tameable mounts

    Realistic drops from mobs

    Mob hunting, not easy to find to just grind and camp, must work at it and truely hunt for your kill

    .

    Thats some of what I want. I realise DnL is working on getting many of these to work, but that is part the feature list that I like


    We have to realize that we live in reality and playing MMORPG to be immersed in a fantasy.
    What Farlan and its representatives have been giving the community are all fantasy that has not been delivered.

    Can you please list in your list how many of the above features are fully implemented in D&L now?

    Now with that list in hand, we can easily list the current MMORPG that has those features.

    Potential and promises does not mean anything unless it is implemented.
    Like many has said before, a blank piece of paper has alot of potential, its up to the writer to make soemthing about it.
    Only when it is a finished product will we see if the potential actually made it to reality.

    Hyping up a game that one has never even touched in its current release state is the same thing as putting a blind eye to what is really happening in it.
    It is the similar to watching soemone getting murdered and not doing anything about it and letting the murderer go to commit another crime someday.


    With that said.
    I do hope we do find a game with all those features you just listed.
    But I do suggest that instead of hyping up a game you have yet to touch, you go buy this game so you can personally understand what many of us feels about it.
    If you really want I may even give you access to my Refunded Pioneer Account that can somehow login to D&L still.
    I am sure you can find many Refundees that may be willing to give you access to check out D&L for yourself if the $60 is too much for you.
    But please understand and don't take this too hard.
    Stop hyping up a game and attacking those that have already experienced D&L first-hand.
    Go buy or borrow a D&L account so you can experience it for yourself before you start your crusade on hyping up one of the worst MMORPG that have entered the genre!

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  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    Hiya Blacksac,

    I too am looking forward to AoC. Hopefully they can pull it off.

    However, it does leave a lot off of your list. After all you list is quite demanding. I think the AoC world will be a lot smaller than what you are looking for. Also, it isn't in the fantasy genre (as in trolls, elves, etc.)

    Just a question for you:

    Don't you think the mmorpg standard of "fantasy" mileu is kinda tired?

    Personally, I'd like to see some more innovation in the areas of settings for mmorpgs. Auto Assault comes to mind as one attempt. However, I can't get into role-playing as a car. If they would of made it like a real apoloyptic 'Mad Max' mmo, I'd been all over it. Basically your vehicle shoulda been like a mount that you can fight with.

    Huxley is an mmorpg in the Games in Development column that looks interesting to me as well.

    Anyway, I look forward to hearing your thoughts, blacksac...

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