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The worst ranked games

blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

The worst ranked games. Just for fun (worst at the top, to the best at the bottom) 

Enjoy! I think

Since DnL is there, we might as well see what it's up against

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Dark and Light

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The Lost City of Vampires

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The Sims Online

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Clan Lord

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Blademistress

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Oz World

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Undercover 2: Merc Wars

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El Kardian

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Kingdom of Drakkar

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  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909
    I love the way even pics from DnL are false advertising... it looks nothing like it ingame (well, photoshop ftw...)
  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    ^All pics from mmorpg.com

  • virtuellavirtuella Member UncommonPosts: 699


    The graphics can look something similar to that with everything turned on to max and then resized a little,but graphics is my last concern.
    Let me login and see if i can show you what i mean.


    The graphics are ok but ohh man everything else suck.

    I bet all those other games screenshotted has more content than DnL currently has.
    That's where DnL is failing big time.
    Crappy content,missing content,bad performance and a whole lot of bugs.




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  • SinfaySinfay Member UncommonPosts: 56

    Unfortunately this makes D&L look even worse.

    As the producers from Raven, the studio making Quake III (dont have the link handy) have said as a caveat to budding game art folks on Gamasutra:

    Graphics don't make a game. It has to be fun.

    Which is where Dark and Light fail. That is why it is ranked low. No amount of paid fanboism can accomplish that

  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020

    Well that's selective telling. First lets go with an actual, unPhotoshopped picture.

    That's the first I found, probably better ones around.

    Can't give specifics on what's actually works in those other games, but I can give (highlight the table):


       DnL  LCoV Sims   CL  Bm Oz   Under  EK KoD 
     Retail  54.99  n/a  n/a  34.95  n/a  n/a  n/a  n/a  n/a
     Monthly  14.99  n/a  9.99  9.95  5.00  n/a  n/a  n/a  n/a

    Should be noted that CL comes with CD, Manual, and Two months free. Hey, if DnL takes one of those pricing schemes I will be more then happy to rate it higher than them.

    Edit: Well it seems like I have issues with making a table. Highlight it to see it.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    Black you have a gazillion page thread with the photoshoped , over the top graphics and it did not do the game a damn bit of good. The game has no content, is buggy as hell, and the whole concept is one that sounded good on paper but in execution is flawed. Top that by it being run by a coampny whose ethics makes SOE look like a benevolent association. heck, even the CS is the absolute worst in the industry. AD try's but NP3 just is terrible.

    Add in the fact that but if you do not have a box that can run EQII at the absolute highest setting and get a solid 60+ FPS you will never see the quality of screens you post and even those will be choppy and running at 20 FPS. Sorry but the gameplay is not good enough to warrent spending 4000 USD for a dragon flight emulator with no content, bugs and horrible customer service. I'll take lost cities of vampires over that.

    I miss DAoC

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045
    Relax guys, you dont have to justify your rating to me, it's just interesting to see what DnL is up against, looks like a tough group
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321


    Originally posted by blacksac
    Relax guys, you dont have to justify your rating to me, it's just interesting to see what DnL is up against, looks like a tough group

    Hey good marketing though Black. Nothing like a doctored screenie with a little pixelated skin to sell a few boxes to the kiddies.

    I miss DAoC

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    I happen to have a player made movie here on me (not photoshopped  )... enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXcchN7oDw 

    *edit: for clarity

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321


    Originally posted by blacksac

    I happen to have a player made movie here with me... enjoy! (btw it's of DnL, just incase you thought it was one of the other fine games  )
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXcchN7oDw 


    Makes me want to run out and buy that Athalon 64 FX62 and dual 7950's. Even if they never manage to fix DnL where I could get better than 25 FPS with it I would be able to get 60 FPS in EQII with everuthing at max

    I miss DAoC

  • NSberserkNSberserk Member Posts: 77
    All I see is empty lands and a midget pulling a deltaplane from his ass.
    Paying $55+$15 a month for a primitive flight simulator capped at 25 fps?
    I don't think so.

    I'd rather play the real thing.




  • virtuellavirtuella Member UncommonPosts: 699


    Originally posted by blacksac

    I happen to have a player made movie here on me (not photoshopped  )... enjoy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXcchN7oDw 
    *edit: for clarity


    I like the ingamemap
    Must be nice to own a game where everything lags on the map on a highend machine.

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  • MikeMongerMikeMonger Member Posts: 196

    blacksac,

    Yes, we know you're trying to prove a point...that the game CAN'T be as bad as people say.

    But a much better way for you to prove your point would be to ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME!!!!!!!

    The people badmouthing the game the most are the ones who've actually played it, but apparently you, with absolutely ZERO real exposure to it, seem to know so much more about DnL than them.

    I just find it amusing how you consistantly attempt to defend a game you've never played against people who've actually played it.  And then you turn around and whine because nobody respects your opinion....

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    ^ I'll play it when I'm good and ready. First impressions are important, hard to get over that hurdle, and I don't want to end up a hater, still waiting on launch bugs to be cleared, and if it's ok I'll play, not before.

    I'm really amazed by peoples strong bias towards this game (I'm bias as well). It's so strong that people loose all sense of balance i.e. the ratings are a good example

    Cheers

  • MikeMongerMikeMonger Member Posts: 196


    Originally posted by blacksac

    ^ I'll play it when I'm good and ready. First impressions are important, hard to get over that hurdle, and I don't want to end up a hater, still waiting on launch bugs to be cleared, and if it's ok I'll play, not before.
    I'm really amazed by peoples strong bias towards this game (I'm bias as well). It's so strong that people loose all sense of balance i.e. the ratings are a good example
    Cheers



    And that's exactly what I'm talking about.  Your attitude can be summed up as "I don't need to actually play the game to know that the people who actually HAVE played it and badmouthed it are merely biased hatebois."

    Did ya ever think that maybe, just MAYBE, the game really is that bad?  Of course not....based on your never having actually played the game, you know better than that....

    And that's why people heckle and attack your posts.   The "biased" rating of someone who's actually experienced the game carries infinately more credibility than the "unbiased" rating of someone who's never even actually SEEN the game outside of screenshots and movies.

    So basically, you need to do one of two things:

    1.  Stop defending the game, or

    2.  Never, EVER whine again about how all the attacks and heckling on your posts "amounts to censorship".  Your opinion has absolutely no weight, since you (by your own admission) aren't even willing to try the game because, as you put it, "first impressions are important"...which is a tacit admission that even you believe that the game sucks right now anyway.

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    ^Well said/written MikeMonger,

    I'm not a complete noob to the game though, I have played "versions" of it , and I am well read as to it's issue's

    I freely admit I'm bias infavour of the game, but I do realize at it's current state, it's not the game it should be.

    If I defend the game, it's really out of reflex to the obvious "hate" which is not my favourate emotion.

    I will try and tone it down a bit, and let things be until I'm in game.

    I do appreciate that many "haters" have played (not all of course), and in some way deep down I do appreciate their position.

    Nuff said from me for now

    Regards

  • MW2KMW2K Member UncommonPosts: 1,036

    All the top picture proves that dumbassed pointy eared women in bikinis can walk near tigers in safety. Someone call Oprah.

  • naldricnaldric Member UncommonPosts: 909


    Originally posted by Ulujain

    All the top picture proves that dumbassed pointy eared women in bikinis can walk near tigers in safety. Someone call Oprah.


    well you dont know that, since in DnL the mobs have none to small amount of animation, and they dont need to be near or turned in your direction to be attacking you...
  • GalaxyGalaxy Member Posts: 120

    If I could play a postcard DnL would be one of the best games on the market. 

    Great, fun, immersive, & yes complex games have been arround for 20+ years without the graphics we see today.  As has been said, graphics don't make the game, they are icing.  The most beautiful Icing covering a turd still results in turd cake.

  • DradiinDradiin Member Posts: 259


    Originally posted by blacksac

    ^ I'll play it when I'm good and ready. First impressions are important, hard to get over that hurdle, and I don't want to end up a hater, still waiting on launch bugs to be cleared, and if it's ok I'll play, not before.
    I'm really amazed by peoples strong bias towards this game (I'm bias as well). It's so strong that people loose all sense of balance i.e. the ratings are a good example
    Cheers


    ROFL, one word.

    Shill.
  • KilimKilim Member Posts: 546


    Originally posted by blacksac

    ^Well said/written MikeMonger,

    I'm not a complete noob to the game though, I have played "versions" of it , and I am well read as to it's issue's

    I freely admit I'm bias infavour of the game, but I do realize at it's current state, it's not the game it should be.

    If I defend the game, it's really out of reflex to the obvious "hate" which is not my favourate emotion.

    I will try and tone it down a bit, and let things be until I'm in game.

    I do appreciate that many "haters" have played (not all of course), and in some way deep down I do appreciate their position.

    Nuff said from me for now

    Regards




    If hate is not one of your favorite emotions ... why do you love to hate and attack the "hatebois" that expose the truth about the game?

    Keep on contradicting yourself blacksac.
    You have lost all credibility.

    You do know that some of us has played EVERY version of the game INCLUDING the release version which is the most important version!
    So please do us all a favor and buy or borrow a D&L Account so you can experience it all for yourself personally.
    Until you do that you sound just like another paid worker.


    BTW
    I find this post below amusing.











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    seems that this game is starting to get noticed there. It's a big site
    with a lot of MMORPG fans registered. I think we can thank blacksac for
    the sudden rise in interest. He/she has been throwing out a load of
    detailed game info there. Stuff we all ready know but the MMORPG
    community as a whole doesn't.


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    Thank you blacksac for your undying devotion to D&L even though you choose to not buy and play it during its release.
    Even
    without buying or playing D&L in its current state, you are still
    willing to have your crusade to post in various forum communities to
    tell everyone how great D&L is with its "Potential"!

    I
    also thank you for not playing D&L and still have the legibility to
    attack "hatebois" that tries to talk anything negative about this game!

    Also like the way you did not disagree with what 1 of the D&L Representatives has said here:



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    lol, if people want to cheat, they can vote 10 for DnL and then 1 for the others


    You actually replied right below neorapsta's post without any disagreement either.


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    Hi it's me blacksac! Blackcactus1 = blacksac


    Hi Magpie! I was very surpised to see my name here. I just wanted to get some debate happening on Dark and Light in mmorpg.com.


    They have ignored it, dispite it having a strong following. I feel its
    too good a game to let it just slide, so I kept posting about the games
    features in an open debate style on their boards, and it did get quite
    a bit of attention.


    I hope all is well!


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  • lysandinglysanding Member Posts: 154

    it doesnt matter. even if the first picture is genuine it still doesnt look like anything special. AC2 like 4 years ago looked as good as that or even better. 

    and your movie shows what a nice hang gliding sim it is. it isnt a real game. The design of this game was completely flawed from the ground up as soon as they decided to make "the biggest , emptiest world" ever created".

  • LumsterLumster Member Posts: 230

    How about some real DnL sceenshots?

    http://www.eternalempire.net/forum/phpBB2/album_showpage.php?pic_id=135&sid=d2fa6147853bd5b7c9e9836386680176

    http://www.eternalempire.net/forum/phpBB2/album_showpage.php?pic_id=129&sid=d2fa6147853bd5b7c9e9836386680176

    http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot0076sk.jpg

    http://vaultmedia.ign.com/rpgvault/image/darknlight-2-120904_1102573568.jpg


    Though, it's kinda strange that there are not many screenies from fanbois, I wonder why that is.

    and a REAL video with those great animations:


    Btw, don't even think about bringing the "they got cappy pcs" argument up.

  • PoulpePoulpe Member Posts: 19


    Originally posted by blacksac
    Relax guys, you dont have to justify your rating to me, it's just interesting to see what DnL is up against, looks like a tough group

    DnL is up against poor games. DnL is a poor game. Poorly executed, poorly polished, with a poor 3D engine running at a ridiculous 5-10 FPS with a good computer, and a huge, HUGE, HUUUUUUGE amount of critical bugs.

    Yes, the games you show may be outdated ( and most of them are old, to say the least ), but none, and when i say none, I mean NONE was released in such a poor state.

    DnL deserves a bad note. Not by comparison with other bad games or dated games. No, just because it is  a bad game itself.
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