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Warhammer Online = HUGE disappointment already!!!
Souldrainer
Member Posts: 1,857
I was hyped to the max about this game until I found out that they are expecting a teen rating. WTF!? Pick up a Warhammer game book and there are beheadings, pools of blood and guts, and gore everywhere. Teen? What are Dev's thinking?
While the vast majority of these games are rated teen, that's a developer's trend, not an audience trend. If they think a teen rating will somehow sell more copies, they are wrong. The average gamer is 30, not 13. I, for one, am sick and tired of the fact that MMO's are turning into teeny bopper fests. You can't throw a rock in WOW without hitting three players born post-1990, and it drives me crazy. WO will have the game community and essentially be the same game.
Developers need to understand that making an MMO equates to making a community, and every part of their game, especially the maturity and complexity of content will determine what type of community forms. I want a game of shrewd calculations and deep character development, where heads and limbs can be severed/broken and my character can be coated in gallons of blood, with other mature content not far behind. I'd like to see games like Vampire: The Requiem and Sin City as MMO's, but at the rate of censorship we're seeing in the genre, it ain't happening. This genre has a ton of potential that developers are just tossing into the trash.
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Its just like the movies, people still bring crowds of small children and 3 week old babies kicking and screaming into R rated movies.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Games are much more engaging than movies. So, the next time I see a two year old at a Slayer concert, I will agree with you. Otherwise, if the content is done so that kids are uncomfortable or hate the game, kids in adult games becomes the exception and not the rule. The Fallout series is a good example of this.
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The point the OP is making that you are overlooking is that a teen rating will limit certain adult content. It has nothing to do with who will actually be playing.
Hillary Clinton will be happy.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
Personnally, the rating is the last thing I would consider.
Mature or Teen, both are fine for me. Do I prefer M or T, I don't even know, it depend on how it is done.
The gameplay and what I do in game matter far more than the rating for me, gore? I dunno. It would be cool I guess, but I rather have a FUN game than a GORY game. Gore can be fun, as long as it doesn't replace the game.
I really disagree with the OP, this aspect would not do/undo the game for the majority of players. If all someone care about is GORE, some can be found. Not to mention that a GORE server can easily be opened at a later point, for all those gory feasts!
Anyway, Tzenth is weak, I will thereby be an elf if I play the game. Prolly High Elf, but I don't dismiss the wood elf.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
Kai
WoW community will be considerd as mature one when compered with WO.
The bitching, flaming and whining will be... just too much.
An M rating could be gore or sexual content or extreme violence or adult language or any combination of those.
I personally would enjoy a game in which the NPC dialogue and content was more mature in general, not necessarily involving a particular category, but just more intelligent on an adult level. That wouldn't necessarily require a Mature rating and a game with a Mature rating could actually be immature.
Anofalye is right about the rating not representing quality, but a teen rating does suggest that the audience they are marketing towards would be younger, and the OP is correct by stating the average gamer is of an adult age.
"We feel gold selling and websites that promote it damage games like Vanguard and will do everything possible to combat it."
Brad McQuaid
Chairman & CEO, Sigil Games Online, Inc.
Executive Producer, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
www.vanguardsoh
The game is a year away from release or so, and regardless of rating these so called kids will still be able to get at it, and its a bit harsh labeling it as a dissapointment just becuase of the rating!
The content will be the same, the game will be the same, but it just means they will be able to sell it to a wider audience!
Plus its unfair to immediately think this game will be full of leet speakers! and always saying there kids! plently of older people speak like that!
OMG, Games Workshop is selling a game to the broadest possible market? And they're planning the game to be sure it seels to teenagers? This is so unprecedented, you'd think GW was out to make huge scads of money!
Seriously Souldrainer, are you familiar at all with Games Workshop and their history?
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
This is all presuming that this piece of vaporware will ever be released.
Actually, I believe it was Tipper Gore who started the big push to rate music and games... but anyway...
I'm sort of in the middle of the road on this one. I've played games that show body parts flying apart when you hack at things, with blood oozing, etc... and I've played games where the victim simply falls down dead (with some dramatic ham acting...) and although the first type is more interesting at first, I find in the long run that these issues aren't as important to me as overall storyline, content, and ability to function in games...
If it's a good game, with good fighting mechanics and interesting content, then I really don't see this as a huge issue...
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Actually, I believe it was Tipper Gore who started the big push to rate music and games... but anyway...
I'm sort of in the middle of the road on this one. I've played games that show body parts flying apart when you hack at things, with blood oozing, etc... and I've played games where the victim simply falls down dead (with some dramatic ham acting...) and although the first type is more interesting at first, I find in the long run that these issues aren't as important to me as overall storyline, content, and ability to function in games...
If it's a good game, with good fighting mechanics and interesting content, then I really don't see this as a huge issue...
Actually it was Senator Joe Lieberman (sp?) that pushed for the ESRB rating system. If you read the book The Ultimate History of Video Games by Steven Kent it has a good overview of how it came about. Basically it was all Mortal Kombats fault
Lieberman's chief of staff's son wanted Mortal Kombat but Andresen didn't want to get it for him because he heard it was full of violence and gore. He mentioned this to his boss that said they should buy a copy and see what people were talking about. Next thing you know - Senate hearings!
I guess games have to have a M rating to be any good, thats why Nanobreaker was such a hit...
Thats why WoW is such a failure, 6 million players are just wrong!
The ratings are meaningless since once your in game players will be exposed to what ammounts to being the general public. Pretty much anything you can think of can be said at any given time... I even saw many racist comments in a public channel on EQ recently. No game is safe from this regardless of rating. (a guy only got suspended for 24 hours after spaming vulgar/racist comments for close to an hour).
Every parent should know that and keep in mind when allowing a child into a mmorpg.
I think WO is gonna be pretty cool. Seems like its gonna be pretty heavy pvp! We've yet to see if the gameplay will be of value , and if it will have great content, and notn a pure grind .
Just hope they dont clone wow or somethin
According to the ESA: "The average game player is 33 years old and has been playing games for 12 years."
found here:
http://www.theesa.com/facts/top_10_facts.php
If it is a teen rating - Are they going to take away the ability to decorate my armor with bloody dwarf heads? We need an answer from a dev on this!!!!!!!! It'll be a game breaker for me if i can't
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The Warhammer world is already jammed packed with little snotty-nosed kids as well as the 30+ player. There's enough in it to appeal to everyone so it shouldn't really be an issue. It simply comes down to what a player considers more important - lots of blood and gore or a rich and immersive story.
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