Vincent why didn´t they accept you as sub-contractors as you and your team VWorld semmed to have done a brlilliant job, I have never undestand that. Since after the VWorld team left things have only gone donw-hill for them I just don´t see the point why they just don´t admit that they´re using your engine whats the problem with that, since they have lost all their rpoud allready. Also why haven´t you been abale to sue them yet? Are there lack of proofs or something itss seems rather obvious to me. Good luck and I just hope that you will find a solution to this awkward situation.
Best Regards,
Gralj
OT: I bet ZtyX is Vuuar in disguise or something ;]
Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
Originally posted by elitwebb Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
Mr Bloodworth is again spouting the lies surrounding the VWORLD use:
Originally posted by Aratorn:
It is based on Vincent Pourrieux's work. His company is VWorld, and his engine was presented as "the engine in the heart of MAFATE" in mid 2004.
Pourrieux left NP3 somewhere in August 2004 ( not alone ) and since then, there is quite a littel quarell between NP3 and Pourrieux around this engine Pourrieux has been developping since 1996 ( he is legally the owner of this engine ).
Mr Bloodworths response: Thats not true, well, mabye, but his case was thrown out of cort, He had no grounds for complaint, as he was hired to help create it for NP3, this is very standard. I dont even know why he tried.
seems to me this is yet another example of far their lies have gone and a fine example for _Pix_ to use. (doesnt his statement sound an awful lot like IKS?)
Hey Pix, if you ever read this, tell us if there's a chance a GOOD mmorpg developer will use your technology? It's the one good aspect of D&L and it's being ruined by a shoddy game.
I would love to see that terrain technology put to use by competent developers.
Originally posted by Nyast Pix, you have all my support. Back in 2001, i had an interview with you in Lyon, and what you showed me at that time was certainly impressive. It's a real shame that the situation evolved the way it happened. As a programmer, it's pretty clear to me that the D&L team, lacking the research phase you made and experience you had, could have never replaced the terrain engine by their own version in a couple months only. Plus, even if only a few hundred of lines of code from your original work are remaining, it is enough to be considered a derivative work, meaning that they owe you credits.. and more. How's the legal situation progressing ?
So... I guess I know you. Please to see you remember me. .
How's the legal situation progressing ? Work in progress, but anyway quite long as expected. I've got all the time.
Originally posted by Gralj Vincent why didn´t they accept you as sub-contractors as you and your team VWorld semmed to have done a brlilliant job, I have never undestand that. Since after the VWorld team left things have only gone donw-hill for them I just don´t see the point why they just don´t admit that they´re using your engine whats the problem with that, since they have lost all their rpoud allready. Also why haven´t you been abale to sue them yet? Are there lack of proofs or something itss seems rather obvious to me. Good luck and I just hope that you will find a solution to this awkward situation.
Best Regards,
Gralj
OT: I bet ZtyX is Vuuar in disguise or something ;]
There's nothing awkward in this "situation" except for Farlan. I never said NPCube did not accept VWORLD as subcontractor, not at all. Sorry if you "understood" this way but what I said was:
October 2004: NPCube's management doesn't succeed in proposing a contract respecting my IP rights. Consequently, VWORLD team is no longer working on the project.
As to why they do not to admit they are still using VWT, I think this is simply because they want to re-sell it. And I never said also I was not able to sue them, and I was lacking proofs, far from it. You should know one generally seeks amicable solutions before entering the court ways, which automatically means going the long way. BTW, 8 months ago now, Farlan did not hesitate to announce they were going to sue me (supported by AD and a few fans' allegations). So it would be only too fair that you consider things the other way around: Farlan was not able to sue me. This at least would be true.
Originally posted by SBE1 I just said that, based upon what I read, he sold his shares in the company when he left. He didn't sell the technology (from what I know). The VWT was created before he joined NPCube, so it is not the property of NPCube. Had he created VWT while employeed at NPCube, then this wouldn't be an issue. Anyway, this game is so dead, it's almost a pointless argument beyond just giving credit where credit is due.
To me the issue is not this game is dead or is going to die in a few weeks anyway, so move on please! Have a look at: http://www.afjv.com/studios/np3.htm
There you read: Interactive 3D projects:
NP Cube is developing 2 projects that are based on its proprietary cutting edge technologies. Both are very impressive in terms of rendering and reality.
NPCube claiming ownership on proprietary cutting edge technologies. This is simply not true.
Oh, and BTW, I find this quote particularily pertinent:
In August of 2002, five talented and ambitious people joined together to form NP Cube, a company primarily devoted to the development of innovative and exciting titles and video game tools. With a history of working side-by-side on numerous games, this group was naturally drawn together by the respect and high regard for each other that developed over many years.
Originally posted by Zvorak Bro, it good to hear from you again. Funny thing is I remeber reading (hearing) about all this when it went down, I even downloaded some of the DnL movies that have V-World tech on them. Most followers of this game assumed that since Farlan/Np3 went on with this projest that they settled with you our of court. That was the general concensus amongst the fanbase. It's insane to find out the released the game and thought you would simply go away. My Question to you is Vuur really that un-business like.. is he really that Smug ..? BTW... we are all on your side. That's some impressive technology that you've created and the only thing I enjoyed while playing SoG.
-Zvorak
Well, most followers of that game were wrong then. It's been more two years that I keep trying but it seems NPCube simply doesn't want this to stay out of courts. Question of strategy I guess. But believe me, they are wrong in believing I will give up.
As to Vuuar's potential high degree of smugness, I'll leave it to your own wise judgement, certainly not my best interest in here to express anything concerning that point.
Originally posted by holycannoli Hey Pix, if you ever read this, tell us if there's a chance a GOOD mmorpg developer will use your technology? It's the one good aspect of D&L and it's being ruined by a shoddy game. I would love to see that terrain technology put to use by competent developers.
Of course there's a chance, otherwise VWORLD wouldn't be called a development studio anymore!
Just give us the right partners, among others people with brilliant gameplay ideas and dazzling server tech knowledge.
Originally posted by LilBoPeep Originally posted by elitwebb Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
Originally posted by elitwebb Originally posted by LilBoPeep Originally posted by elitwebb Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
The VCR update will be in the next patch.
BWAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA like the rollback huh? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAa
Originally posted by Cholayna Originally posted by elitwebb Originally posted by LilBoPeep Originally posted by elitwebb Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
The VCR update will be in the next patch.
BWAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA like the rollback huh? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAa
Actually I have talked to a dev about the VCR issue, it came out in the previous patch, but only the hour part was right, somehow they got the minutes to read "DnL sucks". They did a roll back to the previous version the minutes still read "DnL sucks" but now the hours say "Farlan can eat me". Who knew?
Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube.
well i think what would be cool is if CCP got your tech and made a ground game with the eve skill system and all.. or added a ground part to EvE ... that would OMG be sweet... and obsolutly amazing.. expecially with what they are going to be dooing with dx10 and shader 4.0..... sorry im a image junky i love wuality of image over fps.. man ground based EvE wow...
anyway this stuff still confuses me.. i mean whats so bad to put cword was used.. or pixs real name on the front of the game....
at the same time though most players dont care who did what or where the tech came from.. though i do understand that its not the players but other development teams for games or other profesional secotrs who would see the game and go wow i wonder what they used.
Originally posted by _Pix_ Hmmm... what an interesting thread on the official boards. I am learning there than DnL fanbois are also Pix hatebois. Particularly the famous IKShadow who, non content with having spread false rumors, still strives to shoot me down in flames. Maybe he is simply a bot, (badly) programmed by Farlan/NPCube. BTW, remember when he claimed that I had already lost a previous case against Farlan (or anyone else)? I know for certain now who told him this and who asked him to spread these rumors: Farlan/NPCube themselves did since I was told by members of the new developement team at NPCube that their management had told them that there was no problem with me, that there were no Intellectual Property issues on the dev since I had already lost a case on VWorldTerrain IP property! This is beyond all expectations!!!! And before I came along with three bailiffs, upon court order, to make a report on NPCube's non-authorized usage of the technology two weeks ago, most of NPCube's programmers were far from believing that they were in fact hackers. Some knew about it but I guess did not want to rock the boat not to lose their job. I am therefore not at all surprised to see that the systematic truth hiding process continues: AD locks each and every thread mentionning the issue, particularly those linking www.pourieux.com. They are by this very fact acting as accomplice with NPCube/Farlan. I already sent them a read receipt e-mail stressing the partial attitude they were taking on in their community management and public statements. They acted just like NPCube: no answer. For the record, sorry this is going to be quite boring, but apparently a few more facts need to be stated :
1996: first procedural algorithms written as independent developer
1997: set-up of CPU Software company to go on developing V-world tech and sell services based on it.
1999: release of first game using V-world: a car race called Speed Demons
2000: first show at E3 of a mock-up of the entire Earth in real-time 3D, making use of V-world tech
2001: development of a software library called Scaper , making use of V-world tech, to make an edutaiment product presenting a simulation of the entire Earth in real-time 3D ; Scaper is developed in partnership with EMG studio; second showing of V-world's whole Earth rendering capabilities at E3.
beginning 2002: release of the Eingana edutainment product, in partnership with MSat/EMG/Hachette companies
mid 2002-beg 2003: sold as CPU Software services: part of V-world used in Mafate game engine for the needs of the Dark and Light project. Set-up of NPCube company and recruiting/forming of a dev team in October 2002.
February 2003: first showing of Dark and Light project at the Milia show in Cannes, France. Project already well received by the media.
March 2003: beginning of my salaried employement at NPCube, to work closely on DnL project.
May 2003: First showing of Dark and Light project at E3, media enthusiastic. Same year I win a trial against my former partner at CPU Software, who cheated with the accounts of the company. No IP issues here.
September 2003: release of the 1.5 version of Eingana, in partnership with M-Sat/NPCube and Anuman Interactive. Just as the first version of Eingana, Eingana 1.5 makes use of V-world terrain tech.
April 2004: set-up of VWORLD to succeed to CPU Software.
May 2004: Second showing of Dark and Light at E3 and presentation of V-world as the terrain tech used in the game: Dark and Light is hyped for presenting the largest terrain seen in MMO projects so far, with amazing viewing distance and lots of immersive details, plus stunning meteorogical effects. Link to vworldpowered website removed from the DNL official website during E3. V-world is renamed into VWorldTerrain for marketing purposes.
August 2004: Still no reappearance of the link to vworldpowered.com. VWORLD members consequently quit NPCube company, but however propose to continue working on the project as subcontractors, so as permit the project to benefit from the terrain tech evolutions.
October 2004: NPCube's management doesn't succeed in proposing a contract respecting my IP rights. Consequently, VWORLD team is no longer working on the project.
2005: NPCube announces having had to rewrite the engine due to technical problems on the terrain tech.
May 2005: NPCube/Farlan announces a partnership with SnailGame, without even asking for my consent. I therefore initiate negociations in order to find an amicable settlement, so that my IP rights can be respected and VWorldTerrain is mentionned as the terrain technology used in DnL/Mafate. October 2005: No settlement is found. NPCube claims ownership as to the terrain algorithms used in DnL/Mafate. Beginning of www.pourieux.com. January 2006: Formal demand for NPCube not to use VWorldTerrain anymore. No answer. June 2006: Certified report by bailiff that NPCube is still using VWorldTerrain 's original 1996-2002 algorithms. Apparently NPCube tried hard to modify the original code, but it seems that the result is not beyond all expectations.
Ok so let me see if I have this straight
They basically tried to alter your code to make it look like theirs at the point in time colored in red above
If I'm correct on that, then it seems that they've basically recoded the entire game since around july 04, which would explain alot of things in beta before sog
Which would explain SOG being 1 build higher
Which would explain the current state of the game and how they cannot get anything right, I do believe their code has become unmanagable
PIX for the sake of all dnl's comsumers and community hurry up and win this lawsuit
Get farlan out of the mmo industry and have them take npcube with them
or shut up about it!
Don't get my hopes up for nothing
The game is already failing, Members: 316,417 thats how many people have signed up on the forums in the lifetime of the game, you have to have a forum account to play the game, there is no way there is anywhere close to 316,000 people playing DNL
I'm 1 of 40 out of my guild, I'm the only one left following DNL and its mainly just to watch the ship sink for amusement
I love the huge world and the viewing distance, I'm affraid if something isn't done future mmo's won't try it because of the mess DNL has made of it
Bottom line is if this type of world is going to be our future of gaming (and I pray for it everytime I hear of a new mmo)
You need to prove it was farlan's incompetence not your own, alot of us here know that, but thats not enough the whole gamiing world needs to know it
goodluck with it pix and I know more of the 315,000 are pulling for you and not farlan
I made an update of www.pourieux.com today (section June 29, in French). This to explain that I have now official proof that NPCube is still making use of VWorldTerrain. Some people posted the link to the update on the French boards of DnL's forums and started to speak about it: each thread related to the subject was locked within a few minutes. Reason given by the moderator: " As it has systematically been stated in similar threads, graphic engine matters are only concerning Pourieux and NPCube". Oh isn't this acknowleging official systematic policy of avoiding the subject. Another bot?
Originally posted by _Pix_ I made an update of www.pourieux.com today (section June 29, in French). This to explain that I have now official proof that NPCube is still making use of VWorldTerrain. Some people posted the link to the update on the French boards of DnL's forums and started to speak about it: each thread related to the subject was locked within a few minutes. Reason given by the moderator: " As it has systematically been stated in similar threads, graphic engine matters are only concerning Pourieux and NPCube". Oh isn't this acknowleging official systematic policy of avoiding the subject. Another bot?
Good luck winning. Let's hope their lawyer is just as good at his work as Farlan is. Then it should be an easy victory for you.
I made an update of www.pourieux.com today (section June 29, in French). This to explain that I have now official proof that NPCube is still making use of VWorldTerrain. Some people posted the link to the update on the French boards of DnL's forums and started to speak about it: each thread related to the subject was locked within a few minutes. Reason given by the moderator: " As it has systematically been stated in similar threads, graphic engine matters are only concerning Pourieux and NPCube". Oh isn't this acknowleging official systematic policy of avoiding the subject. Another bot?
I personally like this parts that I have not seen yet.
(PC: MMORPG) | Posted by Dhruin @ Friday - April 23, 2004 - 08:04 - Top Add a comment | Game Info | Rate this game | Homepage | ScreenshotsThe official Dark and Light site is highlighting VWorld - the technology responsible for terrain rendering in DnL. It "generates terrain, renders vegetation or implements weather condition changes, among other things"; follow the link to check it out.
VWorld - the technology responsible for terrain rendering in DnL
Friday, April 23, 2004
"VWorld" is the terrain technology integrated into DnL's "Mafate" game engine.
To know more about the way it generates terrain, renders vegetation or implements weather condition changes, among other things, have a look at http://www.vworldpowered.com/.
Notice the dates on those bad boys
I just translated the new addition in your website via Babelfish because I don't speak or read french. I know Babelfish is not great in translation but its the best I can do right now.
Did I just read it right that you got an inspector or Judge to go to NPCube on June 9, 2006 and that you guys did in fact found what was you are looking for, and that it is proof they are using your IP?
This is the rough translation I got from your site:
After communicating on the fact that the game motor developed Mafate for the realization of the MMORPG Dark and Light used the technology VWorldTerrain (for memory, here: http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10077&newsid=27731), the corporation NPCube asserted by the continuation not more done usage of this one and always claims at the present time to have rewritten a new motor. I have therefore asked by official way to the month of January 2006 to the manager, of well to want to send me as soon as possible all the elements of which I am owner and than the corporation NPCube would have again at his disposal, but than she asserts not more to use. Not having received response to this formally notify - of which managing it has nevertheless well accused reception - I took the decision to ask judicial authorities to authorize me to verify that the corporation NPCube did not do anymore usage of the algorithms that are the basis of VWorldTerrain and that are my alone property. This is as well as Mister Judges it Court of Holy Denis of the Meeting authorized me to do a report by way of usher within the local ones of the corporation NPCube June 9 2006. It springs of this report that the corporation NPCube always uses to this day the algorithms of the technology VWorldTerrain such as they already existed in 2002, algorithms allowing the MMORPG Dark and Light to claim "the most vast one never realized world", and of which the concepts are the following ones:
- Usage of data satellite type DEM, Imagery and LandCover - creation in real time of data beyond the resolution of the basis of data, by means of algorithms procéduraux -management of a vision field infinite - creation of the géometrie of the land in real time - creation of procedural textures in real time - shadows reaches time real, by to launch ray...
To these characteristics, add the following elements, of which one can easily note the presence on the captures screen and the videos posted on-line on the different community sites:
- Dynamic management of the system forecast - climatic phenomena (snows, rain, wind...) - Dynamic management of the natural light and artificial luminous sources - management of the celestial arch...
One some deducts therefore that if the réécriture of Mafate announced by NPCube is well real (this that seems in fact exact, to some to believe the commentaries of the users of the game and journalists, clearly commentaries less extravagant that two years ago), she not concerns at all on the part dynamic creation of land... The corporation NPCube continues of not to respect my Intellectual property rights, continues to use my technology and dresses up the reality while doing to believe that she is at the origin of the concepts that characterize this technology.
The corporation NPCube does not hesitate obviously to propagate rumors to my subject, asserting notably to have obtained my judicial condemnation or to censor me on the forums. For memory, according to this same kind of rumors, "pourieux.com" was a condemned site to have to close as soon as possible party his be said aspect "slanderous". I expect nevertheless to have to blow his first candle 4 months from now.
IN YOUR FACE NPC/FARLAN DNL!!! WOOOT GO _Pix_ GO!!!!!
You got us all here pulling for ya _Pix_! If the game doesnt die on its own (more than likely) then perhaps the cessation of the use of your technology without compensation nor acknowledgement as well as the thinly veiled character assassin of you will do them in. Hmmm, Karma Sux dont it NPC?
It's a shame when a company had to literally steal technology to develop a game. Even worse is that DnL, although the terrain is great, will end up being a pimple on _Pix_ career. And it's pretty obvious they did. The only redeeming quality of the game is the terrain. It's hard to believe that anyone in house there currently had anything to do with it.
As is the case with Click and Buy (though to a lesser extent), I feel for you _Pix_. Tough to be involved with a bunch of lowlife, scamming, lying scum.
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Vincent why didn´t they accept you as sub-contractors as you and your team VWorld semmed to have done a brlilliant job, I have never undestand that. Since after the VWorld team left things have only gone donw-hill for them I just don´t see the point why they just don´t admit that they´re using your engine whats the problem with that, since they have lost all their rpoud allready. Also why haven´t you been abale to sue them yet? Are there lack of proofs or something itss seems rather obvious to me. Good luck and I just hope that you will find a solution to this awkward situation.
Best Regards,
Gralj
OT: I bet ZtyX is Vuuar in disguise or something ;]
Best regards,
Gralj
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
Mr Bloodworth is again spouting the lies surrounding the VWORLD use:
Originally posted by Aratorn:
It is based on Vincent Pourrieux's work. His company is VWorld, and his engine was presented as "the engine in the heart of MAFATE" in mid 2004.
Pourrieux left NP3 somewhere in August 2004 ( not alone ) and since then, there is quite a littel quarell between NP3 and Pourrieux around this engine Pourrieux has been developping since 1996 ( he is legally the owner of this engine ).
Mr Bloodworths response:
Thats not true, well, mabye, but his case was thrown out of cort, He had no grounds for complaint, as he was hired to help create it for NP3, this is very standard. I dont even know why he tried.
Hey Pix, if you ever read this, tell us if there's a chance a GOOD mmorpg developer will use your technology? It's the one good aspect of D&L and it's being ruined by a shoddy game.
I would love to see that terrain technology put to use by competent developers.
So... I guess I know you. Please to see you remember me.
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How's the legal situation progressing ?
Work in progress, but anyway quite long as expected. I've got all the time.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
There's nothing awkward in this "situation" except for Farlan. I never said NPCube did not accept VWORLD as subcontractor, not at all. Sorry if you "understood" this way but what I said was:
October 2004: NPCube's management doesn't succeed in proposing a contract respecting my IP rights. Consequently, VWORLD team is no longer working on the project.
As to why they do not to admit they are still using VWT, I think this is simply because they want to re-sell it.
And I never said also I was not able to sue them, and I was lacking proofs, far from it. You should know one generally seeks amicable solutions before entering the court ways, which automatically means going the long way.
BTW, 8 months ago now, Farlan did not hesitate to announce they were going to sue me (supported by AD and a few fans' allegations). So it would be only too fair that you consider things the other way around: Farlan was not able to sue me. This at least would be true.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
To me the issue is not this game is dead or is going to die in a few weeks anyway, so move on please! Have a look at: http://www.afjv.com/studios/np3.htm
There you read:
Interactive 3D projects:
NP Cube is developing 2 projects that are based on its proprietary cutting edge technologies. Both are very impressive in terms of rendering and reality.
NPCube claiming ownership on proprietary cutting edge technologies. This is simply not true.
Oh, and BTW, I find this quote particularily pertinent:
In August of 2002, five talented and ambitious people joined together to form NP Cube, a company primarily devoted to the development of innovative and exciting titles and video game tools. With a history of working side-by-side on numerous games, this group was naturally drawn together by the respect and high regard for each other that developed over many years.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Well, most followers of that game were wrong then. It's been more two years that I keep trying but it seems NPCube simply doesn't want this to stay out of courts. Question of strategy I guess. But believe me, they are wrong in believing I will give up.
As to Vuuar's potential high degree of smugness, I'll leave it to your own wise judgement, certainly not my best interest in here to express anything concerning that point.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Of course there's a chance, otherwise VWORLD wouldn't be called a development studio anymore!
Just give us the right partners, among others people with brilliant gameplay ideas and dazzling server tech knowledge.
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
The VCR update will be in the next patch.
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
The VCR update will be in the next patch.
BWAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA like the rollback huh? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAa
Nice idea Pix, but I do have to call you on one point I disagree with. At this point I have my doubts that anyone at DnL could program a VCR, let alone a forum bot. Other than that, you rule.
gotta agree with you --- how many nights you think they sit and stare at that blinking date on the VCR?
The VCR update will be in the next patch.
BWAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAA like the rollback huh? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAa
Actually I have talked to a dev about the VCR issue, it came out in the previous patch, but only the hour part was right, somehow they got the minutes to read "DnL sucks". They did a roll back to the previous version the minutes still read "DnL sucks" but now the hours say "Farlan can eat me". Who knew?
Futilez[Do You Have What It Takes ?]
Pix give it to Mythic
Those guys know what they're doing.
A game like DAOC with terrain technology like VWORLD = Dream game.
well i think what would be cool is if CCP got your tech and made a ground game with the eve skill system and all.. or added a ground part to EvE ... that would OMG be sweet... and obsolutly amazing.. expecially with what they are going to be dooing with dx10 and shader 4.0..... sorry im a image junky i love wuality of image over fps.. man ground based EvE wow...
anyway this stuff still confuses me.. i mean whats so bad to put cword was used.. or pixs real name on the front of the game....
at the same time though most players dont care who did what or where the tech came from.. though i do understand that its not the players but other development teams for games or other profesional secotrs who would see the game and go wow i wonder what they used.
Ok so let me see if I have this straight
They basically tried to alter your code to make it look like theirs at the point in time colored in red above
If I'm correct on that, then it seems that they've basically recoded the entire game since around july 04, which would explain alot of things in beta before sog
Which would explain SOG being 1 build higher
Which would explain the current state of the game and how they cannot get anything right, I do believe their code has become unmanagable
PIX for the sake of all dnl's comsumers and community hurry up and win this lawsuit
Get farlan out of the mmo industry and have them take npcube with them
or shut up about it!
Don't get my hopes up for nothing
The game is already failing, Members: 316,417 thats how many people have signed up on the forums in the lifetime of the game, you have to have a forum account to play the game, there is no way there is anywhere close to 316,000 people playing DNL
I'm 1 of 40 out of my guild, I'm the only one left following DNL and its mainly just to watch the ship sink for amusement
I love the huge world and the viewing distance, I'm affraid if something isn't done future mmo's won't try it because of the mess DNL has made of it
Bottom line is if this type of world is going to be our future of gaming (and I pray for it everytime I hear of a new mmo)
You need to prove it was farlan's incompetence not your own, alot of us here know that, but thats not enough the whole gamiing world needs to know it
goodluck with it pix and I know more of the 315,000 are pulling for you and not farlan
The big empty world proves that
Then Exceptionally Smug Vuur could've just Paid Pix and his crew more money and has a working game... but he though HE was the game and not the TEAM.
Vuur = Dave Bowman
-Zvorak
I made an update of www.pourieux.com today (section June 29, in French). This to explain that I have now official proof that NPCube is still making use of VWorldTerrain. Some people posted the link to the update on the French boards of DnL's forums and started to speak about it: each thread related to the subject was locked within a few minutes. Reason given by the moderator: " As it has systematically been stated in similar threads, graphic engine matters are only concerning Pourieux and NPCube". Oh isn't this acknowleging official systematic policy of avoiding the subject. Another bot?
No, it's not only a flight sim
Current Work In Progress
Let's hope their lawyer is just as good at his work as Farlan is.
Then it should be an easy victory for you.
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- the technology responsible for terrain rendering in DnL. It
"generates terrain, renders vegetation or implements weather condition
changes, among other things"; follow the link to check it out.
http://steff.free.fr/url050704.htm
technology responsible for terrain rendering in
DnL
terrain technology integrated into DnL's
"Mafate" game engine.
To know more about
the way it generates terrain, renders vegetation
or implements weather condition changes, among
other things, have a look at http://www.vworldpowered.com/.
Notice the dates on those bad boys
I know Babelfish is not great in translation but its the best I can do right now.
Did I just read it right that you got an inspector or Judge to go to NPCube on June 9, 2006 and that you guys did in fact found what was you are looking for, and that it is proof they are using your IP?
This is the rough translation I got from your site:
http://perso.orange.fr/pourieux/Edito.htm#Le23juin2006
After communicating on the fact that the game motor developed Mafate for the realization of the MMORPG Dark and Light used the technology VWorldTerrain (for memory, here: http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10077&newsid=27731), the corporation NPCube asserted by the continuation not more done usage of this one and always claims at the present time to have rewritten a new motor. I have therefore asked by official way to the month of January 2006 to the manager, of well to want to send me as soon as possible all the elements of which I am owner and than the corporation NPCube would have again at his disposal, but than she asserts not more to use. Not having received response to this formally notify - of which managing it has nevertheless well accused reception - I took the decision to ask judicial authorities to authorize me to verify that the corporation NPCube did not do anymore usage of the algorithms that are the basis of VWorldTerrain and that are my alone property. This is as well as Mister Judges it Court of Holy Denis of the Meeting authorized me to do a report by way of usher within the local ones of the corporation NPCube June 9 2006. It springs of this report that the corporation NPCube always uses to this day the algorithms of the technology VWorldTerrain such as they already existed in 2002, algorithms allowing the MMORPG Dark and Light to claim "the most vast one never realized world", and of which the concepts are the following ones:
- Usage of data satellite type DEM, Imagery and LandCover
- creation in real time of data beyond the resolution of the basis of data, by means of algorithms procéduraux
-management of a vision field infinite
- creation of the géometrie of the land in real time
- creation of procedural textures in real time
- shadows reaches time real, by to launch ray...
To these characteristics, add the following elements, of which one can easily note the presence on the captures screen and the videos posted on-line on the different community sites:
- Dynamic management of the system forecast
- climatic phenomena (snows, rain, wind...)
- Dynamic management of the natural light and artificial luminous sources
- management of the celestial arch...
One some deducts therefore that if the réécriture of Mafate announced by NPCube is well real (this that seems in fact exact, to some to believe the commentaries of the users of the game and journalists, clearly commentaries less extravagant that two years ago), she not concerns at all on the part dynamic creation of land... The corporation NPCube continues of not to respect my Intellectual property rights, continues to use my technology and dresses up the reality while doing to believe that she is at the origin of the concepts that characterize this technology.
The corporation NPCube does not hesitate obviously to propagate rumors to my subject, asserting notably to have obtained my judicial condemnation or to censor me on the forums. For memory, according to this same kind of rumors, "pourieux.com" was a condemned site to have to close as soon as possible party his be said aspect "slanderous". I expect nevertheless to have to blow his first candle 4 months from now.
While awaiting, here this that presented the official site of DnL, in April 2004: http://steff.free.fr/url050704.htm
Matters again and always to follow...
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IN YOUR FACE NPC/FARLAN DNL!!! WOOOT GO _Pix_ GO!!!!!
You got us all here pulling for ya _Pix_! If the game doesnt die on its own (more than likely) then perhaps the cessation of the use of your technology without compensation nor acknowledgement as well as the thinly veiled character assassin of you will do them in. Hmmm, Karma Sux dont it NPC?
It's a shame when a company had to literally steal technology to develop a game. Even worse is that DnL, although the terrain is great, will end up being a pimple on _Pix_ career. And it's pretty obvious they did. The only redeeming quality of the game is the terrain. It's hard to believe that anyone in house there currently had anything to do with it.
As is the case with Click and Buy (though to a lesser extent), I feel for you _Pix_. Tough to be involved with a bunch of lowlife, scamming, lying scum.
As Cho said, Karma.