Unfortunatly, most of the people "playing" beta will be teenage people who just wanna play it and not report any bugs or exploits. I hope Im wrong....but thats the feeling im gettin
Hummm... I didn't taught of this before... I think that you are right. I just hope it won't screw upe the quality of the game...
By the way, anyone knows when the Beta will be announced?
Originally posted by llevis1 lol some of us do have friends that work in blizzerd dont hate me if i know someone inside since i know i will not be in the same line as you competing with at least 10k other to get in to test the game out. sorry i dont like to hear smart ass since u have no proof i know someone and im not going to risk it by giving out his name.
Elvis1
I think the reason why absolutley no one believes you (including myself) is because is virtually every damn mmorpg forum their is always one guy who says "I know the secret of >insert secret here< because my friend works for SONY."
Or "Im getting into Beta because my brother-in-law works for Blizzard"
We see it everyday. Hell, if every single person was telling the truth then 30% of everyone on this forum either works for Blizzard, SOE, Funcom, EA, or some other "cool" company.
You can keep on posting that you know someone who works for blizzard so you're going to get in Beta till your fingers are blue and no one will believe you.
Plus it isn't a very good first impression on your part to post your first few posts making up fairy tell stories.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Unfortunatly, most of the people "playing" beta will be teenage people who just wanna play it and not report any bugs or exploits. I hope Im wrong....but thats the feeling im gettin
Hummm... I didn't taught of this before... I think that you are right. I just hope it won't screw upe the quality of the game...
By the way, anyone knows when the Beta will be announced?
Thanx!
It will be announced when they get ready to announce it. Not until then.
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beleive what u want to belive... but i do belive the topic was reporting bugs and exploits
me i dont belive in keeping secrets for my own gain. You kno who they are and those are the flamers and im not the one flaming, i want the game for everyone to enjoy
plus i would not risk it by saying anything if i am playing it or not or say his name
so.. here goes im not playing bleive what u want to belive but their are honest people out their
Originally posted by llevis1 To each their own beleive what u want to belive... but i do belive the topic was reporting bugs and exploits me i dont belive in keeping secrets for my own gain. You kno who they are and those are the flamers and im not the one flaming, i want the game for everyone to enjoy plus i would not risk it by saying anything if i am playing it or not or say his nameso.. here goes im not playing bleive what u want to belive but their are honest people out their
Actually the topic was who is in the beta yet (answer is no one)
While I respect you and your sayings, I have to say I dont believe you have relatives and friends working for Blizzard. Main reason (other than a lotta people say the same hting) is that those people usually dont brag about it on the forums and then say "I cant tell you the name cause I dont want him to get in trouble". Its the same ol same ol
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You also got to figure about 15-25% of the people that applied don't even have computers that can successfully run WoW. Blizzard put up the minimum system requirments. Most of the time alot of people apply with computers with specs that can barely meet them, and like in most beta's, they usually pick just a few people with specs about that low, and most others with specs that beat that by far.
So that makes the odds abit better for those with good computers. They did say they are mainly basing it on luck and computers that can run WoW. After they do server stability tests and server test type stuff to make sure there side is running good before getting deep into beta, they will probably start accepting a wide variety of computers from decent-great. If this is like most other company beta tests, then people with good computers will have more chances of getting in then people with average computers.
(This reply was refering to those talking about the odds of getting in.)
In order to see the bright light, you must be in black darkness
Just cause your computer dont meet the set beta requirements dont mean that your computer will not run WoW. Most of the time beta requirements are set a bit high anyways, besides I dont see why they would pick more people with top of the line computers than they would those with low end computers. After all, if it can run on a 800 Mhz is sure as hell better run on 2.2 gig computer. Otherwise you have some problems.
I am sure they will prolly try and even it out amoung the different componets and not just rely on one thing.
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Yes, in the beta signup WoW officially said that the system requirements for the beta are a little higher than those of the real game. They probably want more high end machines to test the game so that they won't have any testers that can't play because of their PC.
::Yordo:: EQ2, UXO, Lineage 2, KO, Guild Wars, City of Heroes
Originally posted by Rilix You also got to figure about 15-25% of the people that applied don't even have computers that can successfully run WoW. Blizzard put up the minimum system requirments. Most of the time alot of people apply with computers with specs that can barely meet them, and like in most beta's, they usually pick just a few people with specs about that low, and most others with specs that beat that by far. So that makes the odds abit better for those with good computers. They did say they are mainly basing it on luck and computers that can run WoW. After they do server stability tests and server test type stuff to make sure there side is running good before getting deep into beta, they will probably start accepting a wide variety of computers from decent-great. If this is like most other company beta tests, then people with good computers will have more chances of getting in then people with average computers.
I'd have to disagree. As someone pointed out, if they know it could run on a 800 mhz then they for SURE know it can run on a 3000 mhz. So wouldn't they get more low end computers to see what the actual cutoff is. Besides, one of thier main goals is to make the requirements LOW... i expect to see more low-end machines make it to beta, or even amounts of both. And im not just saying this because i have a low-end machine .. i dont.
Good point. Now that you say that, I would have to say that they will take a more wide range of system specs to test out what the game works well on. And also, there was no lying about your specs because of that ActiveX thing they made you download during the signup.
::Yordo:: EQ2, UXO, Lineage 2, KO, Guild Wars, City of Heroes
Originally posted by Yordo Yes, in the beta signup WoW officially said that the system requirements for the beta are a little higher than those of the real game. They probably want more high end machines to test the game so that they won't have any testers that can't play because of their PC.
::Yordo:: EQ2, UXO, Lineage 2, KO, Guild Wars, City of Heroes
NO, they will not take more high end computers over low end ones. Like I said earlier, if it will run on a 800 Mhz it sure as hell better be able to run on a 2.2 gig computer or higher. And we already know that the game will run just fine on a 800 Mhz computer. (It was stated at gen con)
It is going to be a mix of different componets of your computer that get picked, RANDOMLY.
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Originally posted by Yordo Yes, in the beta signup WoW officially said that the system requirements for the beta are a little higher than those of the real game. They probably want more high end machines to test the game so that they won't have any testers that can't play because of their PC.
::Yordo:: EQ2, UXO, Lineage 2, KO, Guild Wars, City of Heroes
NO, they will not take more high end computers over low end ones. Like I said earlier, if it will run on a 800 Mhz it sure as hell better be able to run on a 2.2 gig computer or higher. And we already know that the game will run just fine on a 800 Mhz computer. (It was stated at gen con)
It is going to be a mix of different componets of your computer that get picked, RANDOMLY.
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Yeah, they need all kinds of computers for the beta. Would be pretty insane to just test high end systems right? They want a game fit for everyone, not just the high end people. Duh.
Ok most of you guys misunderstood what I meant. Yes I know there definitely going to take alot of the lower end PC's to see what runs good with WoW and what doesn't, they'd be stupid if they didn't. What I'm saying is from what I heard, there accepting alot of people in the first phase, which means if there doing this then this phase is most likely for testing on server stability and other issues with there servers.
From what I've observed with past betas, is when they are doing tests to see how much there servers can handle etc, they take mostly people with high end PC's that can easily run the game. They don't want to have to deal with helping people with there computer issues having trouble running WoW, when everyday there tuning and working on there servers to better support alot players players.
I'm probably wrong I never tested a game from blizzard before. I do know in a few past beta's I have been in for other companies, when they are doing server tests and stuff of that sort to test things on there end, they usually pick a huge group of people that can easily run the game with no problems. Then they will have another phase after that (or before), to test compatabilities and such with lower end PCs-Higher end PC's, wide variety of computers with much different hardware and stuff.
I wasn't meaning if you had a good computer, then your definitely in. I was meaning more along the lines if this phase is to test things on there end, and not ours, then more then likely they will go with people with higher end PC's that won't have problems running WoW, so they can get things tuned well on there end without us bothering them about problems.
Alot of companies usually wait till the end of beta and throw in a public beta to test server stability with thousands of players on it, but there have been many in the past who did this in a private beta stage, instead of a public beta. The only reason I think they are doing this is because I've been reading alot of stuff from many different sites that say there accepting thousands and thousands of players into this phase (I think I read somewhere they are accepting 10-15k applications) It can just be rumors who knows, but I was just simply saying if this is the case and there doing a server stability beta test, then more then likely people with higher end PC's will get in first.
(This part is referring to the posts about computer specs and stuff)
When it comes to hardware testing type stuff with a variety of different computers, they won't be picked because there computer is awesome, or cause there computer is crappy and they want to see how it will handle. They will pick usually by a piece of hardware you have, they want to see how it will run wow, etc. They don't just pick a computer, they pick a computer with components they want to test. Much like Zzulu said.
In order to see the bright light, you must be in black darkness
Blizzard is not a regular company to say the least. First most alphas have little content and test the bare basic of features. When companies do stress testing it is not to see whos computer can handle it better, that has nothing to do with server stability. It is to see how many people the servers can hold as a whole.
Every beta I have been in has never excluded someone in a stress test due to thier computer spec's. Thats why they set a min/max for betas and they are normally higher than what it will be in release.
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I never said they do stress testing to "see whose computer can handle it best" that has nothing to do with what I was saying. You read that totally wrong. I'll break this down abit better.
When doing server stability "stress" tests, there main focus is what? To see how there servers handle loads of people, to see how much they can take before overloading/shutting down/crashing.
If there main goal in a certain beta phase is to test the "stress" of there servers, what would they like to keep there main focus on? There servers of course, so would they recruit people with lower end computers that just may have issues with running WoW during a time like that? Probably not they leave that for the phase where they actually test WoW with hardware they've never ran it on before, cause then they have to deal with putting out updates and such to help the people with the lower end PC's or just low-end hardware run it better.
All I was basically saying is if there main focus during the first phase is to test how much "stress" there servers can handle, they are going to be abit more selective with who they recruit into beta.
I never said anything about "stress" tests having anything to do with how good our computers can handle it, that doesn't even make sense.
So all in all, I was saying if there doing "stress" tests there going to want to recruit people with computers they probably won't have any issues with, so they can keep there focus on there main issues which was the servers, and not have to deal with helping people with hardware issues and running the game plainly, of course no matter how selective they get there still will be some hardware issues here and there, but I'm sure they'd want to keep that on the minimum since that isn't there goal during that current phase.
That is all I was trying to say.
In order to see the light, you must be in darkness
You may not have come right out and said it but you are implying it.
--"If there main goal in a certain beta phase is to test the "stress" of there servers, what would they like to keep there main focus on? There servers of course, so would they recruit people with lower end computers that just may have issues with running WoW during a time like that? Probably not they leave that for the phase where they actually test WoW with hardware they've never ran it on before, cause then they have to deal with putting out updates and such to help the people with the lower end PC's or just low-end hardware run it better."
That is why they set min/max level for betas. Haveing hardware problems is not going to stop them from stressing a server. You do realize they have more than one team working on games right? So whats it matter if people have problems during a stress test? They want to get that stuff worked out as well.
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Hummm... I didn't taught of this before... I think that you are right. I just hope it won't screw upe the quality of the game...
By the way, anyone knows when the Beta will be announced?
Thanx!
Elvis1
I think the reason why absolutley no one believes you (including myself) is because is virtually every damn mmorpg forum their is always one guy who says "I know the secret of >insert secret here< because my friend works for SONY."
Or "Im getting into Beta because my brother-in-law works for Blizzard"
We see it everyday. Hell, if every single person was telling the truth then 30% of everyone on this forum either works for Blizzard, SOE, Funcom, EA, or some other "cool" company.
You can keep on posting that you know someone who works for blizzard so you're going to get in Beta till your fingers are blue and no one will believe you.
Plus it isn't a very good first impression on your part to post your first few posts making up fairy tell stories.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Hummm... I didn't taught of this before... I think that you are right. I just hope it won't screw upe the quality of the game...
By the way, anyone knows when the Beta will be announced?
Thanx!
It will be announced when they get ready to announce it. Not until then.
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To each their own
beleive what u want to belive... but i do belive the topic was reporting bugs and exploits
me i dont belive in keeping secrets for my own gain. You kno who they are and those are the flamers and im not the one flaming, i want the game for everyone to enjoy
plus i would not risk it by saying anything if i am playing it or not or say his name
so.. here goes im not playing
bleive what u want to belive but their are honest people out their
Actually the topic was who is in the beta yet (answer is no one)
While I respect you and your sayings, I have to say I dont believe you have relatives and friends working for Blizzard. Main reason (other than a lotta people say the same hting) is that those people usually dont brag about it on the forums and then say "I cant tell you the name cause I dont want him to get in trouble". Its the same ol same ol
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Crap, forum messed up, wrong section, meh
You also got to figure about 15-25% of the people that applied don't even have computers that can successfully run WoW. Blizzard put up the minimum system requirments. Most of the time alot of people apply with computers with specs that can barely meet them, and like in most beta's, they usually pick just a few people with specs about that low, and most others with specs that beat that by far.
So that makes the odds abit better for those with good computers. They did say they are mainly basing it on luck and computers that can run WoW. After they do server stability tests and server test type stuff to make sure there side is running good before getting deep into beta, they will probably start accepting a wide variety of computers from decent-great. If this is like most other company beta tests, then people with good computers will have more chances of getting in then people with average computers.
(This reply was refering to those talking about the odds of getting in.)
In order to see the bright light, you must be in black darkness
Just cause your computer dont meet the set beta requirements dont mean that your computer will not run WoW. Most of the time beta requirements are set a bit high anyways, besides I dont see why they would pick more people with top of the line computers than they would those with low end computers. After all, if it can run on a 800 Mhz is sure as hell better run on 2.2 gig computer. Otherwise you have some problems.
I am sure they will prolly try and even it out amoung the different componets and not just rely on one thing.
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::Yordo::
EQ2, UXO, Lineage 2, KO, Guild Wars, City of Heroes
-Erik
::Yordo::
EQ2, UXO, Lineage 2, KO, Guild Wars, City of Heroes
NO, they will not take more high end computers over low end ones. Like I said earlier, if it will run on a 800 Mhz it sure as hell better be able to run on a 2.2 gig computer or higher. And we already know that the game will run just fine on a 800 Mhz computer. (It was stated at gen con)
It is going to be a mix of different componets of your computer that get picked, RANDOMLY.
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I'm European. I don't care, since they ignored us for the beta.
Heh
NO, they will not take more high end computers over low end ones. Like I said earlier, if it will run on a 800 Mhz it sure as hell better be able to run on a 2.2 gig computer or higher. And we already know that the game will run just fine on a 800 Mhz computer. (It was stated at gen con)
It is going to be a mix of different componets of your computer that get picked, RANDOMLY.
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Yeah, they need all kinds of computers for the beta. Would be pretty insane to just test high end systems right? They want a game fit for everyone, not just the high end people. Duh.
Heh
Ok most of you guys misunderstood what I meant. Yes I know there definitely going to take alot of the lower end PC's to see what runs good with WoW and what doesn't, they'd be stupid if they didn't. What I'm saying is from what I heard, there accepting alot of people in the first phase, which means if there doing this then this phase is most likely for testing on server stability and other issues with there servers.
From what I've observed with past betas, is when they are doing tests to see how much there servers can handle etc, they take mostly people with high end PC's that can easily run the game. They don't want to have to deal with helping people with there computer issues having trouble running WoW, when everyday there tuning and working on there servers to better support alot players players.
I'm probably wrong I never tested a game from blizzard before. I do know in a few past beta's I have been in for other companies, when they are doing server tests and stuff of that sort to test things on there end, they usually pick a huge group of people that can easily run the game with no problems. Then they will have another phase after that (or before), to test compatabilities and such with lower end PCs-Higher end PC's, wide variety of computers with much different hardware and stuff.
I wasn't meaning if you had a good computer, then your definitely in. I was meaning more along the lines if this phase is to test things on there end, and not ours, then more then likely they will go with people with higher end PC's that won't have problems running WoW, so they can get things tuned well on there end without us bothering them about problems.
Alot of companies usually wait till the end of beta and throw in a public beta to test server stability with thousands of players on it, but there have been many in the past who did this in a private beta stage, instead of a public beta. The only reason I think they are doing this is because I've been reading alot of stuff from many different sites that say there accepting thousands and thousands of players into this phase (I think I read somewhere they are accepting 10-15k applications) It can just be rumors who knows, but I was just simply saying if this is the case and there doing a server stability beta test, then more then likely people with higher end PC's will get in first.
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(This part is referring to the posts about computer specs and stuff)
When it comes to hardware testing type stuff with a variety of different computers, they won't be picked because there computer is awesome, or cause there computer is crappy and they want to see how it will handle. They will pick usually by a piece of hardware you have, they want to see how it will run wow, etc. They don't just pick a computer, they pick a computer with components they want to test. Much like Zzulu said.
In order to see the bright light, you must be in black darkness
Blizzard is not a regular company to say the least. First most alphas have little content and test the bare basic of features. When companies do stress testing it is not to see whos computer can handle it better, that has nothing to do with server stability. It is to see how many people the servers can hold as a whole.
Every beta I have been in has never excluded someone in a stress test due to thier computer spec's. Thats why they set a min/max for betas and they are normally higher than what it will be in release.
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I never said they do stress testing to "see whose computer can handle it best" that has nothing to do with what I was saying. You read that totally wrong. I'll break this down abit better.
When doing server stability "stress" tests, there main focus is what? To see how there servers handle loads of people, to see how much they can take before overloading/shutting down/crashing.
If there main goal in a certain beta phase is to test the "stress" of there servers, what would they like to keep there main focus on? There servers of course, so would they recruit people with lower end computers that just may have issues with running WoW during a time like that? Probably not they leave that for the phase where they actually test WoW with hardware they've never ran it on before, cause then they have to deal with putting out updates and such to help the people with the lower end PC's or just low-end hardware run it better.
All I was basically saying is if there main focus during the first phase is to test how much "stress" there servers can handle, they are going to be abit more selective with who they recruit into beta.
I never said anything about "stress" tests having anything to do with how good our computers can handle it, that doesn't even make sense.
So all in all, I was saying if there doing "stress" tests there going to want to recruit people with computers they probably won't have any issues with, so they can keep there focus on there main issues which was the servers, and not have to deal with helping people with hardware issues and running the game plainly, of course no matter how selective they get there still will be some hardware issues here and there, but I'm sure they'd want to keep that on the minimum since that isn't there goal during that current phase.
That is all I was trying to say.
In order to see the light, you must be in darkness
You may not have come right out and said it but you are implying it.
--"If there main goal in a certain beta phase is to test the "stress" of there servers, what would they like to keep there main focus on? There servers of course, so would they recruit people with lower end computers that just may have issues with running WoW during a time like that? Probably not they leave that for the phase where they actually test WoW with hardware they've never ran it on before, cause then they have to deal with putting out updates and such to help the people with the lower end PC's or just low-end hardware run it better."
That is why they set min/max level for betas. Haveing hardware problems is not going to stop them from stressing a server. You do realize they have more than one team working on games right? So whats it matter if people have problems during a stress test? They want to get that stuff worked out as well.
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