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Need help with a gaming PC
LordMagnus
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Now, before I say anything, I want anyone who has nothing useful to say to stay out of my topic. I don't care if you think this is not the proper place to ask or whatever else any trolls out there might have to say.
Now, on the topic at hand. I am looking to get a new pc, and seeing how I have absolutely no idea how to build a pc, I have to go around looking for pre-built pcs. I've seen quite a few sites but they all seemed to be either too expensive, or they just don't ship outside the U.S (cyberpowerpc.com). I finally found a site and it seemed to have decent prices. Now, keep this in mind: I don't care if the computer runs everything on max settings or if some of the parts on it aren't the best they could be. My only interests are for the games that are out to be able to run at a playable speed, and for me to be able to upgrade some of the parts on it such as the video card and the ram whenever I want.
With that said, I don't want to get ripped off too badly either. I know that it would be cheaper to buy individual parts and build the pc myself but I don't have the patience to actually do it so I don't mind paying a little extra for a pre-built one.
So, here are the PC's I have my eye on:
Here
Here
Here
And Here.
So what I need is some advise on wether I should look for better deals or if those are decent for the price. I know that alot of you here know quite a bit about computers so I was hoping to get a little advise. If someone knows of any other site that offers shipping to Canada and has better prebuilt computers for a decent price it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for any responses.
PS- my budget is around 800-1000 dollars Canadian.
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None of those are any good for gaming, they all suffer from the same critical flaw.
Bollocks Graphics card, built into the motherboard. They simply won't work with 95% of the games in the shops.
If you bought one of those you would also have to buy a seperate GFX card and install it yourself.
get your self down to your local small buisiness PC shop. Tell them your budget and ask for a gaming rig.
Let them build you something cheap and customised for your needs.
A custom built pc is cheap and better then most you can buy.
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I just bought myself a HP computer with Dual Core 3800+ and just totally upgraded the system for my Gaming needs.
I assume you are probably talking to me on this since I am the only one here who recently totally flamed someone who came in here asking computer advice.
However, your post was excellent and deserving of good responses....instead of sitting there and saying "build my computer with proper links attached - end of post", you came in here having taken steps yourself in researching your new computer and asked opinions.
Having said that......unfortunately, as noted above by Baff, you would be totally unhappy with those systems. Integrated graphics is always a horrible solution for gamers. For the money you have (assuming you are not including a monitor or other peripherals), you should be able to get a much better computer.
Here is what you should shoot for.
6000 series vid card or above for Nvidia based...
I personally reccommend spending the money on 2 gigs of RAM for a modern gaming rig. Tom's hardware did a test on Battlefield 2 with 2 gigs of ram, and the frame rates were much better, drastically fewer sub 10 fps drops......won't go into why here, but I would reccomend that much RAM since the release of that game...if you really wanna pinch a penny, go with 1.5 gigs....not less than that....just my reccomendations based of professional testing and my personal experience.
Other than that, just get the best you can afford.
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That's just the motherboard and the CPU, nothing else. It's decent, but if you can find one, I would get myself an Intel Dual Core (Conroe) E6400 or E6600. The E6600 is about $500 cheaper then the AMD Fx-62, yet runs circles around it.
Also the Intel will support DDR2 RAM which will give you a little boost in memory performance.
I've actually built myself a nice gaming rig on Newegg (just parting pieces together) and didn't even spend more then $1200. And this had everything from the top-of-the-line ATI videocard, 2GB of some awesome RAM, etc.
So if you know what you're doing, you can get yourself a nice bleeding edge computer for cheap.
Grab yourself an ASUS motherboard and build your own PC to your own likings. Best thing you can ever do imo.
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That's just the motherboard and the CPU, nothing else. It's decent, but if you can find one, I would get myself an Intel Dual Core (Conroe) E6400 or E6600. The E6600 is about $500 cheaper then the AMD Fx-62, yet runs circles around it.
Also the Intel will support DDR2 RAM which will give you a little boost in memory performance.
The Core 2 Duo is impressive by all accounts, but supply seems a bit short yet. It is also a very new technology, so I would look for reviews of the intended mainboard/CPU combo.
If you find a good Core 2 Duo/mainboard combo, go for it. If you stick to AMD for whatever reason, don't take the FX-62. The AMD X2 5000+ is only marginally slower but much cheaper.
BTW, the new AMDs on socket AM2 also use DDR2 memory. Compared to the older socket 939 models, they are maybe 5% faster and use slightly less power.
Interesting stuff. I'm currently looking at getting a PC from TigerDirect as well.
Now with your budget being roughly 800-1000, that's where the first problem comes in. That really doesn't provide alot of wiggle room for power to play the latest games and such.
If you live in the Toronto area, they do have TigerDirect retail stores which might build the PC for you, though that only helps if you're in the area.
That being said, if you don't want to or cant build the PC yourself, you kinda have to live with whatever the pre-assembled deal gives you.
For gaming there's a list of priorities that you need to worry about and perhaps that will help you decide. Find the deals within your price range with the best components in this order.
1- Graphics Card (this is probably the most important influence on your gameplay)
2- RAM memory
3- CPU power
Find all the deals you can within your price range, then pick the top 5 with the best video cards, then from those pick the top 3 with the most RAM, and then from those 3 pick the one with the best CPU.
Unfortunately the biggest limiting factor on this will be your budget. Good luck and hopefully you get a nice system.
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ok yes every aspect of a computer is important but there are two (2) crucial elements that you need for games to play well
1 AN INSANE graphic card
you dont want to see the sparkles, you want to see the glitter of the sparkle emanating from the bigger sparkle of magic spell you have (monitor may also help)
2 ram.
you never have enough ram. you have maxed out your ram slots and you still want more
everything else you can live without top quality