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daladinndaladinn Member Posts: 3
just a warning...
be very careful with this game and make absolutely sure taht you read the EULA. its obvious that teh developers know this game shoudl not have been released yet and are "honoring" a 30 day refund. however they ask that you try the game before asking for the refund and if you spend "ANY" of your in game money you CANNOT get a refund. People really need to know jsut how bad the current state of this game is before buying it. yes , i agree it could have a bright future, however i have played many that could. the issues with the game though are fairly big ones. the customer service being a sticking point (makes SOE look good).

good luck all and read carefully....



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  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    *breaks keyboard so that he is not tempted to make a post here*

    *hopes semp does not start posting again*

    *wishes the OP looked around the place at all the posts before posting the same thing again*


  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    Originally posted by daladinn
    just a warning...
    be very careful with this game and make absolutely sure taht you read the EULA. its obvious that teh developers know this game shoudl not have been released yet and are "honoring" a 30 day refund. however they ask that you try the game before asking for the refund and if you spend "ANY" of your in game money you CANNOT get a refund. People really need to know jsut how bad the current state of this game is before buying it. yes , i agree it could have a bright future, however i have played many that could. the issues with the game though are fairly big ones. the customer service being a sticking point (makes SOE look good).

    good luck all and read carefully....

    You think if people ues their moneys buy in-game cash you think thye would probably use it??

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  • MrDDTMrDDT Member UncommonPosts: 276


    Originally posted by daladinn
    just a warning...
    be very careful with this game and make absolutely sure taht you read the EULA. its obvious that teh developers know this game shoudl not have been released yet and are "honoring" a 30 day refund. however they ask that you try the game before asking for the refund and if you spend "ANY" of your in game money you CANNOT get a refund. People really need to know jsut how bad the current state of this game is before buying it. yes , i agree it could have a bright future, however i have played many that could. the issues with the game though are fairly big ones. the customer service being a sticking point (makes SOE look good).good luck all and read carefully....

    Well think about it, if you were to buy a game and you get IN GAME money. Then give that money to a friend, then ask for a refund. I mean you could do that many times, it would make the money in game almost worthless.

    Thats a no brainer.

    -MrDDT

  • daladinndaladinn Member Posts: 3
    i am sorry but unfortunately jsut stamping a lable on something "buy at your own risk" does nto make it any less of a scam. calling a game in its alpha stages "releasable" does not make it so. your right ... mmo's are always adding content and fixing bugs on the new content. they should however be playable and somewhat "polished" as far as the content at release is concerned.

    i stll sy that the company stole my money... after a week they still wont admit to it (or even answer emails)



  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492


    They won't respond to emails. If you have an issue with something make a post about it in the account forum. Stole your money? did you use any? If you use any in game money you forfit your refund.

  • daladinndaladinn Member Posts: 3
    ok , in the sake of fairness...
    i finally got reasonable answers from redbedlam and they will be taking care of things for me. so for now i will wait and see waht happens . 99% of my previous frustration was due to lack of response from them.



  • max2008max2008 Member Posts: 91

    Well to be able to give the game a chance you have to spent your ingame money and then you cannot get a refund.

    The game is certainly not in any shape for the time being .Just consider it lost money and move on.

  • JorevJorev Member Posts: 1,500



    Originally posted by max2008

    Well to be able to give the game a chance you have to spent your ingame money and then you cannot get a refund.
    The game is certainly not in any shape for the time being .Just consider it lost money and move on.



     Its interesting that if you don't spend any sesterces that came with the account, you will be demonized of not having played the game, like the reviewer from PC Zone UK was falsely accused of, yet if you spend the sesterces in order to properly experience the game, only to find out it's incomplete and still in beta mode, you can't get a refund.

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  • max2008max2008 Member Posts: 91

    Well its just one of those cases you accept your loses and move on i suppose.

    The developers claim they cannot issue a refund simply because you spent your money and refuse to be flexible.Spending 100 ses is same as a few pennies and i cannot see why if you spent so little you cannot at least get back a percentage of your money back.I also doubt there is anyone who bought this game did it to make multiple accounts to save a few pennies and go on the painful quest of getting a refund.

    So in actual fact i am sure a vast majority that wanted a refund back never got it.The game is pretty much empty now with the occasional "fight to the end" troops around and folks like me that cannot get a refund browsing through it once in a blue moon.

    But I  am not crying for my money back ,its a small lose .However,anyone who buys the game now without finding out about it should not come crying here neither.

  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    Originally posted by Jorev
    Originally posted by max2008
    Well to be able to give the game a chance you have to spent your ingame money and then you cannot get a refund. The game is certainly not in any shape for the time being .Just consider it lost money and move on.
     Its interesting that if you don't spend any sesterces that came with the account, you will be demonized of not having played the game, like the reviewer from PC Zone UK was falsely accused of, yet if you spend the sesterces in order to properly experience the game, only to find out it's incomplete and still in beta mode, you can't get a refund.




    How did I know you would return? image

    You do not need to spend the money in order to properly experiance the game. What the reviewer had to do was join a guild.
  • duncan_922duncan_922 Member Posts: 1,670

    Originally posted by Jorev
    Originally posted by max2008
    Well to be able to give the game a chance you have to spent your ingame money and then you cannot get a refund. The game is certainly not in any shape for the time being .Just consider it lost money and move on.
     Its interesting that if you don't spend any sesterces that came with the account, you will be demonized of not having played the game, like the reviewer from PC Zone UK was falsely accused of, yet if you spend the sesterces in order to properly experience the game, only to find out it's incomplete and still in beta mode, you can't get a refund.

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  • max2008max2008 Member Posts: 91



    Originally posted by Virtus



    Originally posted by Jorev



    Originally posted by max2008

    Well to be able to give the game a chance you have to spent your ingame money and then you cannot get a refund.
    The game is certainly not in any shape for the time being .Just consider it lost money and move on.


     Its interesting that if you don't spend any sesterces that came with the account, you will be demonized of not having played the game, like the reviewer from PC Zone UK was falsely accused of, yet if you spend the sesterces in order to properly experience the game, only to find out it's incomplete and still in beta mode, you can't get a refund.




    How did I know you would return? image

    You do not need to spend the money in order to properly experiance the game. What the reviewer had to do was join a guild.


    Well considering barter is probably the major "currency" now i suppose indirectly you are right but remember there is hardly any newbie who started off that after a day of play did not end up withdrawing some amount of money.

    You can argue a lot of factors about any mmorpg when it comes to a review as it is a slow progressive and almost endless world.You can say if a reviewer gives bad marks to say WoW that if he had gone ahead to become a marshall or raided naxx he would have properly experienced WoW.But then again this takes well over 1 year of development of his character and have been lucky with getting a good guild.

    You just have to accept that every gaming magazine can only assign a reporter to a game for a certain period.It is expensive paying them to play you know.

    I for one always thought the pc gamer uk review of EQ2 for instance was totally incomplete but i also realised that the EQ2 developers failed initally to make a great first day impression like WoW did and paid the price and was awarded i think 75% against the pc zone 94%.

    Had RV got a score above 40% maybe it would not have attracted such negative attention as it did with 9%.

    Most small time mmorpg will never have the luxury of a magazine review and rely on online reviews.So it makes me believe RB did actually know much more about pc gamer having a reviewer ingame then they care to admit.Just one slight problem they played the gamble hoping for a postive review which would have increased their sales 10 folds and lost.And with the review so damning they had to make statements.

    They claim other reviewers are waiting to review.Well after all this months they must have some powerful friends which are still waiting to review the game as most other companies never have that luxury even SoE,blizzard and EA.

  • MrDDTMrDDT Member UncommonPosts: 276


    Originally posted by max2008
    Originally posted by Virtus
    Originally posted by Jorev
    Originally posted by max2008
    Well to be able to give the game a chance you have to spent your ingame money and then you cannot get a refund.
    The game is certainly not in any shape for the time being .Just consider it lost money and move on.
    Its interesting that if you don't spend any sesterces that came with the account, you will be demonized of not having played the game, like the reviewer from PC Zone UK was falsely accused of, yet if you spend the sesterces in order to properly experience the game, only to find out it's incomplete and still in beta mode, you can't get a refund.


    How did I know you would return? imageYou do not need to spend the money in order to properly experiance the game. What the reviewer had to do was join a guild.



    Well considering barter is probably the major "currency" now i suppose indirectly you are right but remember there is hardly any newbie who started off that after a day of play did not end up withdrawing some amount of money.
    You can argue a lot of factors about any mmorpg when it comes to a review as it is a slow progressive and almost endless world.You can say if a reviewer gives bad marks to say WoW that if he had gone ahead to become a marshall or raided naxx he would have properly experienced WoW.But then again this takes well over 1 year of development of his character and have been lucky with getting a good guild.
    You just have to accept that every gaming magazine can only assign a reporter to a game for a certain period.It is expensive paying them to play you know.
    I for one always thought the pc gamer uk review of EQ2 for instance was totally incomplete but i also realised that the EQ2 developers failed initally to make a great first day impression like WoW did and paid the price and was awarded i think 75% against the pc zone 94%.
    Had RV got a score above 40% maybe it would not have attracted such negative attention as it did with 9%.
    Most small time mmorpg will never have the luxury of a magazine review and rely on online reviews.So it makes me believe RB did actually know much more about pc gamer having a reviewer ingame then they care to admit.Just one slight problem they played the gamble hoping for a postive review which would have increased their sales 10 folds and lost.And with the review so damning they had to make statements.
    They claim other reviewers are waiting to review.Well after all this months they must have some powerful friends which are still waiting to review the game as most other companies never have that luxury even SoE,blizzard and EA.


    I didnt spend any of my SES and Im ranked either 1 or close to it for the most SES made in game. So I think you are wrong there. You dont need to spend ses to make ses. In fact I think the game is TOO easy to make SES.

    -MrDDT

  • grinreapergrinreaper Member Posts: 507
    Great, another r-tard that could figure out how to make a woodpile, didnt ask for any help, and now comes on here to bitch like a 3 year old. I really think WoW has made you dumber.
  • VirtusVirtus Member Posts: 492

    Originally posted by grinreaper
    Great, another r-tard that could figure out how to make a woodpile, didnt ask for any help, and now comes on here to bitch like a 3 year old. I really think WoW has made you dumber.

    I assume you mean couldn't? image
  • GorukhaGorukha Member Posts: 1,441

    Originally posted by Virtus
    Originally posted by grinreaper
    Great, another r-tard that could figure out how to make a woodpile, didnt ask for any help, and now comes on here to bitch like a 3 year old. I really think WoW has made you dumber.
    I assume you mean couldn't? image

        Wonder why these fanbois like to call people a WoW player as if playing something that isn't a total mess is a sin.  Guess R-tard is the guy playing a finished product, and the smart ones pay to play alphas. It's the bizzaro world.


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  • tetsultetsul Member Posts: 1,020



    Originally posted by Gorukha



    Originally posted by Virtus



    Originally posted by grinreaper
    Great, another r-tard that could figure out how to make a woodpile, didnt ask for any help, and now comes on here to bitch like a 3 year old. I really think WoW has made you dumber.

    I assume you mean couldn't? image



        Wonder why these fanbois like to call people a WoW player as if playing something that isn't a total mess is a sin.  Guess R-tard is the guy playing a finished product, and the smart ones pay to play alphas. It's the bizzaro world.


    The fans called people the same thing and told them to go back to WoW in the DnL forums too. It goes with that whole feeling of superiority thing that keeps them in game.

    Man things mellow out on this forum, I go away, come back and it's the same crap as before. Even Semp or Sept or whatever the hell his name is back to putting up brand new post deleted pictures.

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