Worst MMO community ever.

yugnok · November 2006

I started playing about a week ago. I am stunned by the people who play this game.

My observation is that the people who play this game, with a few exceptions, are arrogant, unhelpful, rude, immature, and dillusional. Like a bunch of potty-mouthed 2 year olds. I don't know if its the game that makes people that way or if this game just tends to attract them.

Here is an example of what Im talking about: you go to random arenas. I look at local chat and its like 100 of the most immature tourettes 12 year olds got hold of a means to vent all of their pent up vulgarities. Its like they've never seen their own swearing in print before and need to see it in print over and over again.

So I decide to join a fight and some random asswipe decides to start criticizing my playing. "You noob. (Insert random skill here) sucks. You suck asshole. You are worthless. Thanks for making me lose Fucker." So they quit in the middle of a fight that we are winning after 3 flawless victories.

This is not an isolated experience. I am shocked by how many times Ive seen this attitude, which seems indicative of some form of mental pathology ( I mean that in all seriousness).

Now even if I did totally suck (which I don't). There is no excuse for this. I mean in an mmo community you would think there are some helpful people that would understand that not everyone knows the game in and out. Not everyone is uber and some could use some friendly advice. I have yet to see any of the normal courtesies of civilized society in this community.

Ive played several mmo's that have had poor, immature communites, but this one hands down is the worst. Its too bad because the game really looks kind of nice. These children ruin the fun of what could be a good game. Oh well. Off to greener pastures. There are too many people in this game that I do not care to have any association with.

Darktania · November 2006

I agree with you 100%. I played Guild Wars for about a week and had to stop because of the community. It's children and their behavior that ruin mmo's. I also had to stop playing WoW for that same reason. I wish there was a way for an MMO to be restricted totally to just 21+ players.

EricDanie · November 2006

It happens, although I've been lucky enough to find mature people to chat with while drinking for the Drunkard title.

Honestly though, RA is a lost place. If you want to play with local chat unfiltered, I strongly suggest you to find a good guild with a lot of mature active people, and ironically it shouldn't be really hard to find one as the immature people don't care about getting in a guild. And you will never have to play with "random people" again. It's weird, but that's how it works most of the time here, but I can assure you will have a much better enjoyable social gameplay experience. After all, the name of the game is Guild Wars

pureazure · November 2006

Im with the post above, find yourself a good guild.

I try not to play with pug's as much as possible. Most of the experiences with random people i have had are good, but it's always the bad ones that get remembered, putting me off grouping.

cointerm · November 2006

Honestly, to get the most out of this game, you need a guild. GW is infamous for its kiddie community. With a guild and alliance, you can safely turn off local chat whilst still having the feel of a community-based game.

And so you know, RA is the nesting ground for bottom-of-the-barrel immaturity in GW.

Sxarlet · November 2006

I never tried GW, but I heard the stories before, which makes me not really interested in playing it.
Seems its very hard to find good communities in MMORPG's, as some other games have certain reputations as well...

(And yes, I know there are some out there...)

Sephis · November 2006

People are like that in RA, mostly because it is mostly elitist trying to "Own" other players, Ignore them.

PvE is more friendly, PvP is more "Serious" then PvE because you fight for glory and fame.

GvG: Too busy fighting, no talking

HA: Totally Elitists

TA: a bit more friendly

RA: place of the "Pwnerz" to meet

Too bad this kind happens in most MMO's, not just GW.

find a friendly Guild and ignore the idiots

exanimo · November 2006

there is a learning curve , you will find more mature people in end game zones , or elite pvp areas.

Kickphat · November 2006

i've been playing for over a week now and everyone i've ever grouped up with seem every kind and nice to me when i told them i was new to the game, this one level 20 warrior/monk got me to level 11 in my first 2 days of playing the game, i just guess it all depends on which time you get online. it seems most of the little kids get are on between 7-10pm est. so i try and get on after that time. there seems to be alot more auldts on at that time. plus the guild i am in i'm the youngest at 21 the oldest is 40 year old.

tl481 · November 2006

Originally posted by neoteo

there is a learning curve , you will find more mature people in end game zones , or elite pvp areas.

Yup listen to the man. You'll usually find hot-mouths running all over the place in areas like that. But keep playing and you'll eventually find some good players to play with. At least thats how I started, you can't just give up on a game base solely on 1 or 2 incidents. There is another great community out there that you just haven't seen yet. Keep playing, earn respect, and you'll see the light!! Trust me

prokiller88 · November 2006

Don't worry on what other people say. Most of them don't even stay in a team without a monk because they can't heal themselfs. Just ignore them and kill them if you even happen to see them in random arenas or anyother pvp place.

jimmyman99 · November 2006

Originally posted by yugnok
I started playing about a week ago. I am stunned by the people who play this game.

My observation is that the people who play this game, with a few exceptions, are arrogant, unhelpful, rude, immature, and dillusional. Like a bunch of potty-mouthed 2 year olds. I don't know if its the game that makes people that way or if this game just tends to attract them.

Here is an example of what Im talking about: you go to random arenas. I look at local chat and its like 100 of the most immature tourettes 12 year olds got hold of a means to vent all of their pent up vulgarities. Its like they've never seen their own swearing in print before and need to see it in print over and over again.

So I decide to join a fight and some random asswipe decides to start criticizing my playing. "You noob. (Insert random skill here) sucks. You suck asshole. You are worthless. Thanks for making me lose Fucker." So they quit in the middle of a fight that we are winning after 3 flawless victories.

This is not an isolated experience. I am shocked by how many times Ive seen this attitude, which seems indicative of some form of mental pathology ( I mean that in all seriousness).

Now even if I did totally suck (which I don't). There is no excuse for this. I mean in an mmo community you would think there are some helpful people that would understand that not everyone knows the game in and out. Not everyone is uber and some could use some friendly advice. I have yet to see any of the normal courtesies of civilized society in this community.

Ive played several mmo's that have had poor, immature communites, but this one hands down is the worst. Its too bad because the game really looks kind of nice. These children ruin the fun of what could be a good game. Oh well. Off to greener pastures. There are too many people in this game that I do not care to have any association with.

People are people, they are good and bad, polite and rude, fat and thin, you cant change that. What you CAN change is how you react to them. In fact, all it takes is a) put him on ignore list and b) never group with him again.There would be so much less annoyances in this world if people stoped reacting towards assholes. The WORST thing you can do to someone who insults u is to ignore him. Take my advice, ignore the BS, see how much better life will become around u.

Dookz · November 2006

Originally posted by neoteo
there is a learning curve , you will find more mature people in end game zones , or elite pvp areas.

this is the case most of the time. They're probably everywhere but I have encountered the most of these bunch in LA, Ascalon City, Ascalon Arena, Shing Jea Monastery, usually in popular areas from experience, not every low level outpost out there.

hadz · November 2006

To the OP...you've played for a week...you had some bad experiences.

I've played for almost 1000 hours and I'm here to tell you...on a whole the community is excellent. I rarely have problems with people, and I use Pick-Up groups all the time. (Random Arena PvP is probably the exception...the usual PvP tools hang out there...trying to prove...something)

In fact I'd go so far as to say, it's the best community I've played with in a MMORPG. Others are either so quiet, you might as well not be playing a MMORPG (eg. EQ2), or so snobby that it makes you sick to keep going (eg. EVE) or as opposed to GW - REALLY filled with 12 year olds (or worse, immature 20 somethings) who spout garbage in General chat all day (eg. The Barrens in WoW).

The great thing about GW is that apart from a few areas (where you'll get a mix of the things I've noted above) most places you go in the "world" and people you meet are excellent. And if there is a fool mouthing off in one area...move to another town, or even just change district...it's that simple (unlike other MMORPGs where you end up turning off general chat forever).

VGJustice · November 2006

Hadz has it right. After 18 months of play I've seen quite a few badmouthers, jerks, whiners, 12 year olds that learned a new word and wanna see if they can wear it out, and some of the most lude things ever.

On the whole, I wouldn't trade this comunity for anything. Not the comunity in WoW (where the early game areas are devoid of chat completely and the major cities are nothing but trade spam with no one willing to help anyone out) and certainly not the comunity in Diablo 2 (which is a bit closer to the one you described). All I can say is that you shouldn't base the whole community off of the trash that generally hangs around Pre Searing Ascalon.

Awesomeo · November 2006

Dude its PvP your suppose to hurl insults, specially through teamspeak. It gets you hyped up.
Well actuly I wouldn't like to see it in the chat window so I agree with you there but on stuff like teamspeak its cool.

The stuff said on GW is nowhere near as bad as the stuff said on CSS but still both great games.

addiob · November 2006

i played it. and to be quite frank i didnt like how antisocial it is.
i reached lvl 20 and started exploreing the world but the way the pout of town system works is terrible. because unless you party in town your alone.

the whole point of an mmorpg is to talk and communicate with other living players!

i know what your going to say if you like thsi game "join a good guild"
i joined a brilliant guild love the people in it and we have awsome confosations BUT there the only people you as a player talk to.

its a good game but they should make more efforts in getting players to communicate with eachother

Awesomeo · November 2006

Originally posted by addiob
i played it. and to be quite frank i didnt like how antisocial it is.
i reached lvl 20 and started exploreing the world but the way the pout of town system works is terrible. because unless you party in town your alone.

the whole point of an mmorpg is to talk and communicate with other living players!

i know what your going to say if you like thsi game "join a good guild"
i joined a brilliant guild love the people in it and we have awsome confosations BUT there the only people you as a player talk to.

its a good game but they should make more efforts in getting players to communicate with eachother

Well when you go into an elite mission your in there for a few hours or so with 8 complete strangers who arn't in your guild ( well depends ). I find that you have loads of interaction there more so than other circumstances found in other mmorpg's. Because Guild Wars is a skill base game alot of skill is needed so everyone is talking.

addiob · November 2006

i understand what you are saying mr. Awesomeo but mmorpg's should have a good talking community throughout the game and not only when you are doing elite quests.

i do like the game i just wish there was more interaction between players

DuraheLL · November 2006

I know it's rough.

BUT! What would you expect? Do you think theese people succeed in the higher levels? Hell noes.

When you have a good guild I doubt things like theese will ever happen. Joining with random people is not good if you want a serious game. A serious game contains only serious players. And finding 100% serious players at random isn't easy.

I took a look at the end-game arenas though, and my first experience wasn't good. Of course it was random people. But I was level 19 (one level from the top level) and all that joined on my team left the game right away as fast as they saw my level

addiob · November 2006

Originally posted by DuraheLL

I know it's rough.
BUT! What would you expect? Do you think theese people succeed in the higher levels? Hell noes.
When you have a good guild I doubt things like theese will ever happen. Joining with random people is not good if you want a serious game. A serious game contains only serious players. And finding 100% serious players at random isn't easy.
I took a look at the end-game arenas though, and my first experience wasn't good. Of course it was random people. But I was level 19 (one level from the top level) and all that joined on my team left the game right away as fast as they saw my level

yeah man i hate it when people are like that when it says on an instance / arena "lvl 19-20" and people only accept lvl 20's in the team i mean COMEON it says lvl 19's toooo!!!!

Awesomeo · November 2006

Originally posted by addiob
i understand what you are saying mr. Awesomeo but mmorpg's should have a good talking community throughout the game and not only when you are doing elite quests.

i do like the game i just wish there was more interaction between players

true true, I agree it should be through out and not in certain places but its a free online rpg so we'll just leave it at that

NFWolfDude · November 2006

Originally posted by Awesomeo
Originally posted by addiob i understand what you are saying mr. Awesomeo but mmorpg's should have a good talking community throughout the game and not only when you are doing elite quests.i do like the game i just wish there was more interaction between players
true true, I agree it should be through out and not in certain places but its a free online rpg so we'll just leave it at that

Ahh the fallback, it's free so deal with it. ::::12:: Let's see: Guild Wars, Factions, Nightfall at, let's say $50 a pop makes $150. Free=$0. Follow the logic. GW isn't free, nope, no monthly fee, but it isn't cheap either. I've played plenty of games that suck you dry monthly and they ALL have their downsides, jerks, botters, scammers, bad support, kids killing the game, etc. The thing they don't have is free monthly online pay for everyone to fall back on as an excuse for everything. But I digress from the orignal post.

If you don't say anything, run around for two weeks expecting people to just do whatever you want whenever you want because you want, take things personally, blah blah blah, yep, it's gonna suck. I've been playing for about six months now and have found most of the people to be pretty decent. I ignore the idiots and, to be honest, haven't seen this horrible dark side of the game that everyone describes. As for the foul mouthed 12 year old who seems to run rampant in this game...I must ignore him to the point of him being invisible. But whatever. Two weeks surely doesen't even get you into the real game in any of the campaigns.

Unknown · November 2006

MMORPGs are so neurotic.

Why does anyone expect a random collection of people to have a good community? Small towns have good communities big cities do not.

Why would MMORPGs work any different?

You want to associate online with people whose company is enjoyable? Do what people do in real life find some people with a like mind.

If you walked around New York randomly asking people to help with a quest, how much profanity do you think you would hear? My bet is a lot.

Guild Wars offers plenty of support of people to organize together it simply offers no real support for random socialization. And guess what? It shouldn't, because that is a waste of time. Everyone acknowledges that PUGs are awful. Most people in GW think 50% of PUGs are worse then henchmen. PUGs just dumb down the game anyway. And it is not particularly real or valuable socialization anyway. If you acutally made friends PUGing you would make a guild with them or invite them to your guild.

Small organizations is how most people operate. And that is what Guild Wars is built around.

There is nothing wrong with Guild Wars' socialization mechanism. The problem is with people's crazy ass expectations that somehow people will magically start acting completely different than the real world.

Guild Wars is bar none the largest forum of all MMOs. Only Eve comes close since its all one cluster. Other MMOs seperate off into different servers. Huge populations become like this.

You want a nice community, play a MUD. The Massive part of MMORPG means you will never get a good community unless you are playing an extreme niche game. Large population will never have a good community. Games like EQ wind up with a server community and are small enough to have a medium community. Generally ok but not great. Guild Wars is the New York of the MMOs a billion faceless people who don't care one jot about some other faceless person unless they are in their Monkeysphere.

exanimo · November 2006

Originally posted by addiob
i played it. and to be quite frank i didnt like how antisocial it is.i reached lvl 20 and started exploreing the world but the way the pout of town system works is terrible. because unless you party in town your alone.the whole point of an mmorpg is to talk and communicate with other living players!i know what your going to say if you like thsi game "join a good guild"i joined a brilliant guild love the people in it and we have awsome confosations BUT there the only people you as a player talk to.its a good game but they should make more efforts in getting players to communicate with eachother

anyone that says " i reached level 20 " as if it was something very far or hard to reach , didnt play that much of guildwars.

learning how to get in decent groups is much harder then reaching lvl 20. , yes you have to learn how to do it , just like in real life , you have to learn to chose the good from the bad locations to make friends.

guildwars as 2.5 million acounts sold , i have no clue how many people play at the same time , but lets say a small number to avoid flames , lets say 100 k max.
25 completely diferent groups of 100 k people size.
you cant possibly judge the comunity from playing 20 hours in one week.
if you played with lets say with 100 people , joining pugs everyday for a week is easy to reach 100.
still , thats 0.001 % of the 100 k that were playing that week ... and you still missed the other 25 groups of 100 k out there that sometimes log in and are joining pugs also.

soooo , plz , everyone , not just the op , dont judge this game comunity , if you played 100 hours.

becose you just know like , 0.00001 % of the whole comunity.

speak about your experience , but dont say its the game foult.

one of the reasons i love this game is becose is cooperative , that means comunity.

addiob · November 2006

anyone that says " i reached level 20 " as if it was something very far or hard to reach , didnt play that much of guildwars.
learning how to get in decent groups is much harder then reaching lvl 20. , yes you have to learn how to do it , just like in real life , you have to learn to chose the good from the bad locations to make friends.
guildwars as 2.5 million acounts sold , i have no clue how many people play at the same time , but lets say a small number to avoid flames , lets say 100 k max.
25 completely diferent groups of 100 k people size.
you cant possibly judge the comunity from playing 20 hours in one week.
if you played with lets say with 100 people , joining pugs everyday for a week is easy to reach 100.
still , thats 0.001 % of the 100 k that were playing that week ... and you still missed the other 25 groups of 100 k out there that sometimes log in and are joining pugs also.
soooo , plz , everyone , not just the op , dont judge this game comunity , if you played 100 hours.
becose you just know like , 0.00001 % of the whole comunity.
speak about your experience , but dont say its the game foult.
one of the reasons i love this game is becose is cooperative , that means comunity.

yuo say this and i understand there are nice and nasty people in communitys but what im saying is that an mmorpg should have more points in the game to communicate than what it does.
lets take WoW forinstance.
you wait outside the instance you want to get in and you wait there and others your level come along and you have a nice chat and say what you want / need and wehey your in a party and its all fun and games.

but in guildwars you enter a dungeon area and you have to do random groups.... but even if you dont its hard to find other players your level because of the simple fact you cant see them in action. and the only way you can is by grouping with them.

you could group with a lvl 20 warrior who has lvl 10 weapons in pvp... that helps noone
but in WoW you can see them fighting and if you think "yeah i need a warrior in my group" have a chit chat and BAM make an uber group

(i dislike WoW but its the only game i feel has a nice community)

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