Wanna learn how to draw Anime?

Alvinz · December 2006

Hey everyone!

If you interested in learning how to draw anime, showing off your masterpieces or even just bored, then come visit my site on:

Alvin's Art - The only place you'll ever want to be!

So far I have 10 tutorials up, all hand drawn and written by me.

Feedback would be appreciated ^^

See you there ^^

Alvinz · December 2006

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention.

If you want me to show off your masterpieces, or ask any questions or anything like that, email me at alvinz92@hotmail.com

Rikimaru_X · December 2006

Why did you posted this again?

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/103515

Alvinz · December 2006

To be honest, I couldn't find my old thread ^^, even after using the search function vigorously.

Sorry for starting a new thread

Orcc · December 2006

Just as a note, the words masterpiece and anime dont go together.

Youre trying to compare the likes of Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Velasquez,
Vermeer, Rembrant and others to big eyed dispraportionate cartoons?

LilithIshtar · December 2006

Originally posted by Orcc
Just as a note, the words masterpiece and anime dont go together.

Youre trying to compare the likes of Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Velasquez, Vermeer, Rembrant and others to big eyed dispraportionate cartoons?

Um, you don't know much about art...do you?

Any, yes that's right, ANY picture can be called a "masterpiece." It simply depends on who's viewing it.

Have you not noticed the change in art in these recent years? It's gone to mainly pure fantasy and wildlife realism. To anime/realistic and too dragons looking as real as my damn cat.

Here's an idea, go to http://www.Deviantart.com and search dragons, grpyhons, cats, anything.

And you'll be plenty of "masterpieces."

Orcc · December 2006

Originally posted by LilithIshtar
Originally posted by Orcc
Just as a note, the words masterpiece and anime dont go together.

Youre trying to compare the likes of Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Velasquez,
Vermeer, Rembrant and others to big eyed dispraportionate cartoons?

Um, you don't know much about art...do you?

Any, yes that's right, ANY picture can be called a "masterpiece." It simply depends on who's viewing it.

Have
you not noticed the change in art in these recent years? It's gone to
mainly pure fantasy and wildlife realism. To anime/realistic and too
dragons looking as real as my damn cat.

Here's an idea, go to http://www.Deviantart.com and search dragons, grpyhons, cats, anything.

And you'll be plenty of "masterpieces."

Uh, no. Deviant art is 95% garbage.

conceptart.org, cgtalk.com, eatpoo.com and a few others are actual, respectable art sites.

And for your information, im in the BAA Illustration program at
Sheridan College, and I was also accepted to Seneca College for
animation. So dont question me on knowing what art is.

And just so you know, any serious art school does not accept anime and cartoons or comic characters in your portfolio.

Alvinz · December 2006

When I meant showing off masterpieces, its just a term, nothing more,
nothing less. Plus your work doesn't have to be Anime, and Anime isn't
always big eyed (there are some people who draw anime very realisticly,
while still keeping the anime properties).

I was thinking of call it Reader's Artworks, or Fan Art or something, but masterpieces has a better ring to it

If you want to show off your "masterpieces", then remember to email me at the email above.

I get around 150 views a day, and it is ever increasing. I reckon thats
pretty good for a site less than 2 weeks old! So at least you know if
you submit your work, you have an audience. Small, maybe, but it is
still an audience.

And Orcc, I agree Deviant Art is 95%
Garbage, for doesn't it make you smile when you find a truly talented
artist every once in a while?

Oh yeah, do you have any work I can see. I'm very interested ^^.

Alvinz · December 2006

Also Orcc, I was just wondering, why wouldn't any serious art school accept anime in your folio?

I mean to drawing anime is just like drawing human bodies
realistically, only just a different way. You still need to learn about
the muscles (which I'm still trying to do), body proportions, poses as
well as other areas such as colour theory (which you need to learn in
all art, i guess), shading etc.

Plus I think manga takes art to the next level. Instead of just having
static pictures and paintings, when drawing manga you need to know how
to engage your audience, create atmospheres, timing, making your work
easy to read (*stares at Jing Manga, even if it does have super cool
pictures) etc...

If any art school was truly a serious art school, they should accept all styles of art.

Plus, I've always wondered why do some paintings that look like a five
year old could do, why do they sell for so much money? Sure it might be
by a famous artists, but shouldn't the final price be judge on how much
hard work the artists has put in?

Cooktastico · December 2006

Congrats for making the EXACT same thread for a second time in a row to try and promote your website, turd.

banstickbanstickbanstick!

Orcc · December 2006

Originally posted by Alvinz
Also Orcc, I was just wondering, why wouldn't any serious art school accept anime in your folio?

I mean to drawing anime is just like drawing human bodies realistically, only just a different way. You still need to learn about the muscles (which I'm still trying to do), body proportions, poses as well as other areas such as colour theory (which you need to learn in all art, i guess), shading etc.

Plus I think manga takes art to the next level. Instead of just having static pictures and paintings, when drawing manga you need to know how to engage your audience, create atmospheres, timing, making your work easy to read (*stares at Jing Manga, even if it does have super cool pictures) etc...

If any art school was truly a serious art school, they should accept all styles of art.

Plus, I've always wondered why do some paintings that look like a five year old could do, why do they sell for so much money? Sure it might be by a famous artists, but shouldn't the final price be judge on how much hard work the artists has put in?

Ill be the first to admit im not a big fan of anime, but im just telling you the truth. Go to the website of a well known art school, check out the portfolio requirements. Most will make a point in the outline that comic, cartoon and manga are not accepted.

Here, these are the portfolio requirements for the program im in: http://www1.sheridaninstitute.ca/registrar/0708-appsheets/app-pbaai-1079-public.pdf

Notice on the second page "science fiction, fantasy, cartoons, comics, anime or images of the horrific in any form are not helpful in determing your skills for the program and therefore will not be evaluated.

The portfolio requirements for the animation program here arent up at the moment, but last I checked them they said the same thing, and thats an animation program.

Im not saying ALL art schools are this way, but if you want my opinion, focus on drawing from life and go to life drawing classes (yes, nudes.) Theres nothing wrong with drawing anime for fun, but dont base your style on it because then you lose whatever original style you may have developed if you didnt copy (copying does not equal tracing) someone elses style.

And I never said Picaso or Matisse or Pollock were masters, frankly I hate post modernism and cubism and neo whatever. Well, some of its not bad, but I wouldnt consider it master works.

Alvinz · December 2006

Hahahahaha "...images of the Horrific will not be accepted" hahahah

That one made me laugh. I can see why anime, science fiction and all the hoo har can't be evaluated because that set of port folio work is testing your ability to draw a range of realistic objects, such as still life, cars, people etc. I bet I can pass the hands/feet section, because no matter what's your style, hands and feet are the same.

I am curious though, for Section 10: that talks about submitting a sketchbook with your personal interests or something like that.. what if your personal interests is anime/manga?

Oh yeah, Is Post Modern, Neo Whatever and that other one, is that like Picasso's work? 'cause I don't really like that kind of artwork too!

Orcc · December 2006

Originally posted by Alvinz
Hahahahaha "...images of the Horrific will not be accepted" hahahah That
one made me laugh. I can see why anime, science fiction and all the hoo
har can't be evaluated because that set of port folio work is testing
your ability to draw a range of realistic objects, such as still life,
cars, people etc. I bet I can pass the hands/feet section,
because no matter what's your style, hands and feet are the same. I
am curious though, for Section 10: that talks about submitting a
sketchbook with your personal interests or something like that.. what
if your personal interests is anime/manga? Oh yeah, Is Post
Modern, Neo Whatever and that other one, is that like Picasso's work?
'cause I don't really like that kind of artwork too!

I
didnt actually submit my sketchbook so I cant tell you, im not honestly
sure. Mostly, its just so the proffesors can see your process work, how
you think, what your interests are.

And ya, most of the artists I listed do abstract stuff. Pollock is
famous for his lines of paint, he literally dips a large brush into a
large can of paint and moves his arm in the air over top of his canvas
which is lying on the ground and just lets the paint fall onto it. Its
not necessarily bad art, its just not what I like.

My personal favorite painters are Sargent, Michelangelo, jean-leon
gerome, monet... im partial to the impressionists and the masters.

LilithIshtar · December 2006

Originally posted by Orcc
Originally posted by LilithIshtar
Originally posted by Orcc
Just as a note, the words masterpiece and anime dont go together.

Youre trying to compare the likes of Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Velasquez, Vermeer, Rembrant and others to big eyed dispraportionate cartoons?

Um, you don't know much about art...do you?

Any, yes that's right, ANY picture can be called a "masterpiece." It simply depends on who's viewing it.

Have you not noticed the change in art in these recent years? It's gone to mainly pure fantasy and wildlife realism. To anime/realistic and too dragons looking as real as my damn cat.

Here's an idea, go to http://www.Deviantart.com and search dragons, grpyhons, cats, anything.

And you'll be plenty of "masterpieces."

Uh, no. Deviant art is 95% garbage.

conceptart.org, cgtalk.com, eatpoo.com and a few others are actual, respectable art sites.

And for your information, im in the BAA Illustration program at Sheridan College, and I was also accepted to Seneca College for animation. So dont question me on knowing what art is.

And just so you know, any serious art school does not accept anime and cartoons or comic characters in your portfolio.

Orcc · December 2006

Good lord, now I know why I dont bother to look at deviant art, almost
every one of those links was goddamn furry art. Just because you have
some bestiality fetish doesnt make it great art. Some of those arent
bad, like this guy http://nambroth.deviantart.com/gallery/ but thanks
for reinforcing my opinion.

LilithIshtar · December 2006

Originally posted by Orcc
Good lord, now I know why I dont bother to look at deviant art, almost every one of those links was goddamn furry art. Just because you have some bestiality fetish doesnt make it great art. Some of those arent bad, like this guy http://nambroth.deviantart.com/gallery/ but thanks for reinforcing my opinion.

Someone's got an anal view on art.

Just because you don't like a certain style, doesn't make it not great art. It's great art to someone, no matter how you look at it.

Don't like furry art? Oh well, not my problem, and not theirs. But just because you dislike it, does not make it crap. But that was a nice try anyways.

Lol?

Alvinz · December 2006

Wait a minute guys... What's furry art?

LilithIshtar · December 2006

Originally posted by Alvinz
Wait a minute guys... What's furry art?

It's art that consistes of mostly animal/were/anthro/fantasy. Such as Were-Cats or even a Gryphon would be considered a "furry."

modjoe86 · December 2006

Originally posted by LilithIshtar
Originally posted by Alvinz
Wait a minute guys... What's furry art?

It's art that consistes of mostly animal/were/anthro/fantasy. Such as Were-Cats or even a Gryphon would be considered a "furry."

While I agree, anything can be art to someone, most of those links you put up lacked style. Almost all of these anime/furry art sketches are based on a basic set of rules. And in response to your post a ways back up there, if you think the ability to draw realism is art, I don't know why you call yourself an artist. And if you are honestly comparing some sketches of a gryphon to the likes of Degas, Rembrandt, Monet, Renoir (I guess you can see I'm a fan of Impressionism) then you seriously need to reconsider what you are saying. Go to a legitimate art school, hell, enter an art program at any legitimate college, and see how far those kinds of sketches will get you.

Yea, It may be art to some fellow anime enthusiasts, but it's not art to the art community.

Draenor · December 2006

While I am not someone who would say that anime isn't "art" the fact of the matter remains that serious art schools will not even bother with you if that is your focus point. Anime is seen as derivitive and basic by most art experts...although fun and sometimes very impressive looking, it's not exactly a difficult subject.

I am someone who considers almost anything to be artistic in some way. I have sculpted, painted(no water colors though, eew) sketched, drawn, and yes, even done some anime stuff in my time. I can say beyond all doubt that anime is the easiest to draw. I can whip up a pretty good anime esque characature of myself in less than a minute. The most difficult medium has got to be paint though, I have a lot of respect for guys like Bob Ross who can do it without any difficulty, and even more respect for guys like Monet who can create beautiful works of art in a stylistic way that everyone can enjoy.

I'm sorry Lilith, but regardless of how pretty or cool you think that these deviantart things are, it doesn't change that Oorc is right about art schools wanting people who are interesting in "real" art. It is their perogative to decide what they consider artistic, because afterall, it's their school. If you have a problem with this, I suggest you start your own art school, and don't be surprised if the anime students graduate early.

By the way, I looked at about 10 of those galleries that you posted Lilith, and I have to say that while some of them are pretty good, it would be difficult to pick one artists' work out from anothers'...this is a result from the derivitive style of anime/manga/furry that I touched on earlier in my post.

Alvinz · December 2006

This question is kind of directed at Orcc, but anyone can answer...

What is wrong with "furry" art.

Shouldn't your work be judge not on the subject you choose to potray, but by the skills, techniques, ideas and creativity that you implement?

Draenor · December 2006

Originally posted by Alvinz
This question is kind of directed at Orcc, but anyone can answer...

What is wrong with "furry" art.

Shouldn't your work be judge not on the subject you choose to potray, but by the skills, techniques, ideas and creativity that you implement?

Personally, i find it to be derivitive and generally lacking in creativity. Most furry art looks very sameish to me. Sometimes you get something that looks really cool, but for the most part, a lot of it looks too similar.

modjoe86 · December 2006

Originally posted by Draenor
Originally posted by Alvinz
This question is kind of directed at Orcc, but anyone can answer...

What is wrong with "furry" art.

Shouldn't your work be judge not on the subject you choose to potray, but by the skills, techniques, ideas and creativity that you implement?

Personally, i find it to be derivitive and generally lacking in creativity. Most furry art looks very sameish to me. Sometimes you get something that looks really cool, but for the most part, a lot of it looks too similar.

Coupled with the fact that anyone can learn to draw in this style in a matter of minutes. Unimpressive is the word that comes to mind.

Draenor · December 2006

Originally posted by modjoe86

Coupled with the fact that anyone can learn to draw in this style in a matter of minutes. Unimpressive is the word that comes to mind.

yes, also the fact that it's much easier to pick up and learn than other art styles...you want a hard artistic medium, start doing marble sculpture and oil paints

Alvinz · December 2006

It can't be that easy to do furry art. Even if you use your imagination, and whatever you draw goes, you still have to learn and exercise the basics of all art drawings and paintings, like shadows and lighting etc.

modjoe86 · December 2006

Originally posted by Alvinz
It can't be that easy to do furry art. Even if you use your imagination, and whatever you draw goes, you still have to learn and exercise the basics of all art drawings and paintings, like shadows and lighting etc.

I'm not saying it's easy by any stretch. I'm just saying it's a lot easier to pick up than many other art forms.

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