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"somethings wrong when EVE would win the best PVE award"

GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



I rest my case.
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  • darkmandarkman Member UncommonPosts: 767
    Well when you have a site full of fanboys so up Eve's ass, that's what you get.
  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441
    i totally agree

    but i also think that it helped that it was against WoW, becuause a lot of people who dont like WoW most likely just voted against it in everything
  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440
    I definetly voted for WoW in that category.  I already got used to all the Eve fanboys after being around here so long, just leave the bee hive alone and disregard polls Eve are in and its just fine.  However, I can see how people would vote Eve as the best pve experience if they never played any other mmo.

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  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    ya that makes sense if its their first mmo, but still its just really ironic because EVE doesnt have the best PVE by any means

  • GreatnessGreatness Member UncommonPosts: 2,188
    Does EVE have any NPC people you kill? I thought it was all mining or something?

    ~Greatness~

    Currently Playing:
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  • un.sinedun.sined Member Posts: 4
    Yes, there are plenty of NPCs to kill. They're called pirates, or commonly referred to as rats.



    Also, I'd be willing to bet that most people voted for eve in the PVE category because it's so open ended. You can do what you want instead of having to go out and grind away on spiders or whatever.
  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by Greatness

    Does EVE have any NPC people you kill? I thought it was all mining or something?



    Yes it does.

    Honestly I don't understand the fuss, I find all fantasy PvE boring because I find that killing rats and mass killing unicorns to be very gay. Lvl 4 missions are no more boring or tedious than killing 10,000 faries to gain a level, in fact I find them alot more interesting than going on a gnome killing rampage in the magical forest of frolicking bears! Each to his/her own I suppose, and the majority of voters voted for EVE.

    BTW did I mention that EVE cures cancer?

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • ExmondExmond Member Posts: 33
    Its nice to see blatant bias across the board when it comes to MMORPG's awards.
  • brutotalbrutotal Member Posts: 276
    You won't find anyone who plays mmo's who isn't biased to the one they're playing. Get over it polls don't mean much.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Greatness

    Does EVE have any NPC people you kill? I thought it was all mining or something?

    Eve actually ahs a Quite extensive NPC component comprising of severall factions controlling different shifting regions with different loot types per faction.

     There are also awide range of NPC missions [Quests] And there are Cosmoss constelations which are similar to NPC missions exept tyhey are a lot more extensiove a lot harder and ahve better loot.

    Then there is the exploration content where you ahve to use scan probes to just find it when you do it can erange to a asteroid belt of high end ores with guardian NPC pirates to a complex owned by a Majour Pirate coalition [NPC] which requires team work and lots of work.

    Also therer are archialogical sights that have to be found too that have hidden rewards and dangers too.

     

    Thats just the stuff thats in now. There is a lot more to come tho such as the Massive asteroids with cave systems to explore.

    Giant asteroid belts with hidden NPC dangers

    etcetc

     

    So The OP is really out of date.

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    No matter how much I like this site...I have to admit...that EvE as PvE...hehe, that is funny.

     

    But well, if the site has 90% of the players in EvE, this mean 27k users...if they are all actively voting...haha, the thought of peoples in EvE talking about going on the MMORPG.com to vote just aroused!  Can you see the week news on the servers:  Don't forget to go vote for EvE in PvE!!!! 

     

    I also vote WoW all the time it confront EvE and was the only option, even if I personnally think WoW lack, it has my vote when the only contender is EvE.  Hehe.

     

    How does EvE fans call the PvE initial area?  Maybe we should tease admin by "renaming" his site as such, like saying MMORPG.com is area 1.0 by 1.0  or whatever way that EvE uses to identify areas, but it recall me Trade Wars on the BBS honestly.  Hehe.

     

    EvE has best in everything?  *grin evilly*  yeah right!  I don't mind when it stay remotedly believable...but best PvE?  I mean, to be best PvE, you first require a PvE crowd, and here on this site, PvE fans are already quite scarse...so mostly, PvP fans (EvE fans) say that best PvE is in EvE, it is an EvE-PvPer point of view.  Just like I could say that a hamster is happier in my cage than in nature, but why don't you ask the hamsters instead? 

     

    To be the best at PvE, a game at least require to give the BEST rewards while engaged in PvE...which is NOT the case of EvE.  Thereby, EvE can't even meet the qualification to be voted for, it shouldn't even be in the list.  Haha.  But if it please EvE fans...sure...why not...but don't ask us to believe you.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Anofalye


    No matter how much I like this site...I have to admit...that EvE as PvE...hehe, that is funny.
     
    But well, if the site has 90% of the players in EvE, this mean 27k users...if they are all actively voting...haha, the thought of peoples in EvE talking about going on the MMORPG.com to vote just aroused!  Can you see the week news on the servers:  Don't forget to go vote for EvE in PvE!!!! 
     
    I also vote WoW all the time it confront EvE and was the only option, even if I personnally think WoW lack, it has my vote when the only contender is EvE.  Hehe.
     
    How does EvE fans call the PvE initial area?  Maybe we should tease admin by "renaming" his site as such, like saying MMORPG.com is area 1.0 by 1.0  or whatever way that EvE uses to identify areas, but it recall me Trade Wars on the BBS honestly.  Hehe.
     
    EvE has best in everything?  *grin evilly*  yeah right!  I don't mind when it stay remotedly believable...but best PvE?  I mean, to be best PvE, you first require a PvE crowd, and here on this site, PvE fans are already quite scarse...so mostly, PvP fans (EvE fans) say that best PvE is in EvE, it is an EvE-PvPer point of view.  Just like I could say that a hamster is happier in my cage than in nature, but why don't you ask the hamsters instead? 
     
    To be the best at PvE, a game at least require to give the BEST rewards while engaged in PvE...which is NOT the case of EvE. Oh really and i assume getting top of the range gear to help in the PvP part of eve isant a good reward then lol

     

    Just a quick question How long did you play eve then to evperience EvE PvE then  Personally i souriously doubt you even downloaded the trial as you seem such a WoW fanboi.

    Personally i find EvE PvE more engaging than walking to some gay WoW forest to kill some Pixies.

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  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440

    Uhmmm... Thats why it shouldn't be considered for PvE.  A good PvE game shouldn't have you take a week to discover, hey there is PvE.

    The reason why it isn't good PvE is because it lacks in design for PvE.  The only enemy I ever saw you can shoot at were Pirates.  Always Pirates too.  Pirates in the asteriod fields, minor Pirate Stronghold, Pirates holed up at some Stations Ruins, Pirates camping the jump gates.  There is also the occasional hunting mission in which you can kill pirates, and deliver packages to a different station through Pirate infested territory.

    Also you can't forget how engaging the combat is for a good action packed PvE experience...

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  • Havoc01Havoc01 Member Posts: 113
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll. Actually My point was to point out how flawed these "awards" are. I'm not ignoring that fact, its merely my opinion that WoW's PVP isn't even HALF as bad as EVE's PVE.  And way to go to switch the subject just to attack me, the only one who is trolling around here is you.



    So please be quiet Mr.Troll, thank you.
  • ExneodeathExneodeath Member Posts: 61
    Even though I do not play WoW anymore.... WoW pve was pretty fun... when I first started the quest was awesome... the instances and stuff was fun.  I played on a pvp server so it was a great experience when the game first came out... the dungeons were fun to like UBRS, then MC with the guild etc.  Had a great time, dunno why ppl hate WoW lol It's kinda hard to get into a guild and stuff now ...  I can understand the ppl who get lv 60 and run around with green gear getting destroyed.  Alot harder to get started in WoW now than ever because of the tier of gears out take forever to get trust of a guild and get geared up.
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by CleffyII


    Uhmmm... Thats why it shouldn't be considered for PvE.  A good PvE game shouldn't have you take a week to discover, hey there is PvE.
    The reason why it isn't good PvE is because it lacks in design for PvE.  The only enemy I ever saw you can shoot at were Pirates.  Always Pirates too.  Pirates in the asteriod fields, minor Pirate Stronghold, Pirates holed up at some Stations Ruins, Pirates camping the jump gates.  There is also the occasional hunting mission in which you can kill pirates, and deliver packages to a different station through Pirate infested territory.
    Also you can't forget how engaging the combat is for a good action packed PvE experience...



    By that logic PvE in WoW isant true PvE then as it takes you a while to reach the level 60 Content. It s the same with eve its just that the context is different i.e. In WoW its all fantasy world based and in EvE its all sci-fi based set in space.

    Apples and oranges as someone here likes to say.

     

    In this bit i sort of agree but then again bear in mind that till recently all the content adding has been PvP based and basic content such as wepon ballancing. After all EvE is predomantly sold as a PvP game. It wasant till the End of 2005 that the EvE devs began working on there PvE project, And now we are getting a lot of such content to paly with. And it is actually quite challenging and fun.

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  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll.Actually My point was to point out how flawed these "awards" are. I'm not ignoring that fact, its merely my opinion that WoW's PVP isn't even HALF as bad as EVE's PVE You obviously havent read my first reply in this thread then .  And way to go to switch the subject just to attack me, the only one who is trolling around here is you.



    So please be quiet Mr.Troll, thank you.

     

    Just to point out that since you started your trolling concerning eve its PvE content has VASTLY impoved.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll.Actually My point was to point out how flawed these "awards" are. I'm not ignoring that fact, its merely my opinion that WoW's PVP isn't even HALF as bad as EVE's PVE You obviously havent read my first reply in this thread then .  And way to go to switch the subject just to attack me, the only one who is trolling around here is you.



    So please be quiet Mr.Troll, thank you.

     

    Just to point out that since you started your trolling concerning eve its PvE content has VASTLY impoved.

    Actually, I did read your first reply, but did it ever slipped in your mind that I might not agree with you?



    Also I'm not trolling. Please learn what the word actually means before you use it.
  • NadrilNadril Member Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by un.sined

    Yes, there are plenty of NPCs to kill. They're called pirates, or commonly referred to as rats.



    Also, I'd be willing to bet that most people voted for eve in the PVE category because it's so open ended. You can do what you want instead of having to go out and grind away on spiders or whatever.
    Yeah. You can, like, go kill pirates... or mine/tradeskill.. or go to a droid area! Or maybe do some "Missons"!

    Yeah. You can, like, go kill mobs....  or tradeskill, or go to an instance! Or maybe do some quests.



    Bold look like a familiar game to anyone? Maybe EVE added in something drastic since I last tried it [twice!] this year, but the PvE was god-awful boring. I kept trying to wait to get to the 'good stuff' (PvP) but never got a chance.
  • CleffyIICleffyII Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,440
    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by CleffyII


    Uhmmm... Thats why it shouldn't be considered for PvE.  A good PvE game shouldn't have you take a week to discover, hey there is PvE.
    The reason why it isn't good PvE is because it lacks in design for PvE.  The only enemy I ever saw you can shoot at were Pirates.  Always Pirates too.  Pirates in the asteriod fields, minor Pirate Stronghold, Pirates holed up at some Stations Ruins, Pirates camping the jump gates.  There is also the occasional hunting mission in which you can kill pirates, and deliver packages to a different station through Pirate infested territory.
    Also you can't forget how engaging the combat is for a good action packed PvE experience...



    By that logic PvE in WoW isant true PvE then as it takes you a while to reach the level 60 Content. It s the same with eve its just that the context is different i.e. In WoW its all fantasy world based and in EvE its all sci-fi based set in space.

    Apples and oranges as someone here likes to say.

     

    In this bit i sort of agree but then again bear in mind that till recently all the content adding has been PvP based and basic content such as wepon ballancing. After all EvE is predomantly sold as a PvP game. It wasant till the End of 2005 that the EvE devs began working on there PvE project, And now we are getting a lot of such content to paly with. And it is actually quite challenging and fun.

     

    Truthfully I haven't played Eve since 2005 since I was so disgusted about how boring it was, so that might be why I can't see any of that mythical PvE content.  You should read the post above yours to explain the error in your post.  In WoW you experience the PvE ASAP, its at end-game level 60 content that you lose the PvE content and get into predominantly social content like PvP and raiding.

    When I look at PvE, I look at how accessible artificial enemies are, also if hunting pirates can earn a living, then how engaging the universe's story is at drawing the player in, and ofcourse how good the combat is.  When I played eve, I would have to hyperdrive to a spot a small group of enemies hang out, then take a 5 minute trip at impulse to get in range to fire at ships no bigger then a few pixels.  When I fire at them, it is like playing with Node Linking in Maya; only less interactive.  Then impulse my way so I can get close enough to a container and loot it, usually taking another 2~3 minutes.  Not to mention, in the 10 minute fight I had with 1 enemy, I made 1/10th the amount I would make of a quick Vesper Run.  Also you can't forget how connected the universe is, I don't actually have to leave the station after I jump away from the tutorial to become skilled.  I only have to come back when my skills become trained on thier own.

    If you wanna see pve in a sci-fi theme, you shoulda played Star Wars Galaxies pre-NGE.

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  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll.Actually My point was to point out how flawed these "awards" are. I'm not ignoring that fact, its merely my opinion that WoW's PVP isn't even HALF as bad as EVE's PVE You obviously havent read my first reply in this thread then .  And way to go to switch the subject just to attack me, the only one who is trolling around here is you.



    So please be quiet Mr.Troll, thank you.

     

    Just to point out that since you started your trolling concerning eve its PvE content has VASTLY impoved.

    Actually, I did read your first reply, but did it ever slipped in your mind that I might not agree with you?



    Also I'm not trolling. Please learn what the word actually means before you use it.

     

    So when did you last paly eve with a charecter with more than 1mil sp then.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll.Actually My point was to point out how flawed these "awards" are. I'm not ignoring that fact, its merely my opinion that WoW's PVP isn't even HALF as bad as EVE's PVE You obviously havent read my first reply in this thread then .  And way to go to switch the subject just to attack me, the only one who is trolling around here is you.



    So please be quiet Mr.Troll, thank you.

     

    Just to point out that since you started your trolling concerning eve its PvE content has VASTLY impoved.

    Actually, I did read your first reply, but did it ever slipped in your mind that I might not agree with you?



    Also I'm not trolling. Please learn what the word actually means before you use it.

     

    So when did you last paly eve with a charecter with more than 1mil sp then.

    Not 1 million SP, it became quite clear to me shortly after I tried the trial once more ( I take a new trial after every major expansion update by EVE. I like the concept of EVE, it is just not executed in the way I personally think is right). And it became quite clear to me that the things that I think make EVE's PVE weak are still there.
  • kovahkovah Member UncommonPosts: 692
    So, in closing...  We all agree that the polls here are really good for nothing more than stirring up more useless topics on the forums.



    Great, now that we all agree on that lets go have tea and biscuits! 
  • LordSlaterLordSlater Member Posts: 2,087
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by LordSlater

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    The statement in the topic is not mine (well actually it is as well, but thats not the point). Its a statement that has been made by some of the most die hard EVE fans.



    http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/1043/page/3/



    I rest my case.
    Thanks for reminding us that once again, you really hate EVE.



    If  WoW can run for best PVP than there is nothing wrong with EVE running for PVP.



    But seeing as how you ignore that fact and only keep posting about EVE being in the running for PVE, I think your just a troll.



    Go play one of those many Asian MMORPGs you keep saying will beat every game on the market, oh wait, they won't. All boring grind fests, I am surprised that you still defend that piece of crap known as RF online.



    Go back your cave, troll.Actually My point was to point out how flawed these "awards" are. I'm not ignoring that fact, its merely my opinion that WoW's PVP isn't even HALF as bad as EVE's PVE You obviously havent read my first reply in this thread then .  And way to go to switch the subject just to attack me, the only one who is trolling around here is you.



    So please be quiet Mr.Troll, thank you.

     

    Just to point out that since you started your trolling concerning eve its PvE content has VASTLY impoved.

    Actually, I did read your first reply, but did it ever slipped in your mind that I might not agree with you?



    Also I'm not trolling. Please learn what the word actually means before you use it.

     

    So when did you last paly eve with a charecter with more than 1mil sp then.

    Not 1 million SP, it became quite clear to me shortly after I tried the trial once more ( I take a new trial after every major expansion update by EVE. I like the concept of EVE, it is just not executed in the way I personally think is right). And it became quite clear to me that the things that I think make EVE's PVE weak are still there.

    So basically you are saying you Fell EvE'S PvE content is crap even though you played for no more than a few days on a TRIAL charecter. Which BTW is deliberetly limeted so you cant access all the content anyway. Its a bit like saying a game like Everquest is crap because i couldnt access all its content within a few days on a trial account.

    So basically your opinion on eve counts for very little then.

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