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The haters were ABSOLUTELY RIGHT

Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.

Cheers.

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  • TimberhickTimberhick Member UncommonPosts: 554
    Can a you a bit more vague for us here please.
  • CydoneCydone Member Posts: 171

    yes.. bleh bland.

  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by Cydone
    yes.. bleh bland.

    This game is anything but bland.

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by Cydone

    yes.. bleh bland.

    This game is anything but bland.

    Dictionary says "Bland: 5.lacking in special interest, liveliness, individuality, etc.; insipid; dull: a bland young man; a bland situation comedy."



    I'd have to agree with Cydones comment.

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  • swede2swede2 Member Posts: 975
    Well i played World of Warcraft , so bland should be quite the improvment over what am used to lol so your trying to tell us what that you have been in beta for a while now or just sence open started cause if you havent been in beta for a while I would have to say your talking through your ass because with all the downloading you wouldn't have played for very long
  • CopelandCopeland Member Posts: 1,955


    Originally posted by godpuppet
    Originally posted by Copeland  

    Originally posted by Cydone
    yes.. bleh bland.
    This game is anything but bland.

    Dictionary says "Bland: 5.lacking in special interest, liveliness, individuality, etc.; insipid; dull: a bland young man; a bland situation comedy."

    I'd have to agree with Cydones comment.


    Your sig discredits anything you type in this forum so please stop.

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by Cydone


    Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.
    Cheers.

     

    The only way Vanguard would be mediocre is if your system is like 5 years old. Sorry, but the graphics and gameplay are amazing. Check it out yourself. Nice troll.

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  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by godpuppet


    Originally posted by Copeland
     





    Originally posted by Cydone

    yes.. bleh bland.




    This game is anything but bland.



    Dictionary says "Bland: 5.lacking in special interest, liveliness, individuality, etc.; insipid; dull: a bland young man; a bland situation comedy."

    I'd have to agree with Cydones comment.


    Your sig discredits anything you type in this forum so please stop.

    No? I dont obey rude remarks that are mere opinion.

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  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248
    Originally posted by Copeland


     

    Originally posted by godpuppet


    Originally posted by Copeland
     
     





    Originally posted by Cydone

    yes.. bleh bland.


    This game is anything but bland.



    Dictionary says "Bland: 5.lacking in special interest, liveliness, individuality, etc.; insipid; dull: a bland young man; a bland situation comedy."

     

    I'd have to agree with Cydones comment.


     

    Your sig discredits anything you type in this forum so please stop.



    So does yours.

     

    The game is definately bland.

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  • MaxziusMaxzius Member UncommonPosts: 248
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Cydone


    Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.
    Cheers.

     

    The only way Vanguard would be mediocre is if your system is like 5 years old. Sorry, but the graphics and gameplay are amazing. Check it out yourself. Nice troll.



    The graphics are nice, the gameplay is terrible.

     

    The game itself is just... boring, for lack of a better word.  The testers have been saying there is no "hook" to the game for months and there still isn't.

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  • sololocosololoco Member Posts: 542

    It's impossible to judge any game just on what you've seen in it's beta stages and judge them fairly and accurately.  As we all know, beta is where the kinks are ironed out and that's not done over night.  You don't see everything the game has to offer from one day to the next.  Many things and sites are still locked up and others are being looked at and not running fluently yet but thats what beta is all about.

    The majority of the people who are putting down this game have their own agenda but judging it fairly and honestly is not one of them. At least not in beta.  Give it time after it's released then you can make a non-biased statement and one that will really stand on its own two feet.  Beta is not the place to judge the game, not yet anyway and not accurately.

     

  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Cydone


    Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.
    Cheers.

     

    The only way Vanguard would be mediocre is if your system is like 5 years old. Sorry, but the graphics and gameplay are amazing. Check it out yourself. Nice troll.

    Because someone does not agree with your opinion does not make them a troll.



    Personally I have a pretty damn sweet system and the game is dull.  There is no life to the game.  Everything done here has been done before, and done better.  I personally find it funny that McQuaid goes on and on about how they are bringing back the "hardcore" and ramping up the difficulty.  How did they do this?  The increased the tedium within the game and increased the work.  They haven't made NPC's smarter, they havent made the ai mobs think and use strategy against the player.   They pour in HPs and energy and say See that's harder and deeper gameplay!  The Questgivers are still npc pez dispensers and the quests are the exact same thing we have been doing for 10 years now.  There is no innovation and the prettiest part of the graphics are the trees, and those are done by Speed Tree, not by sigil.  Oh and lets of course not forget corpse runs... sooo much fun .  Combat is dull and bland, animations are on par with Dark and Light and all in all Vanguard is a pathetic excuse for an entertaining mmo experience.



    I know there is no dissuading vanbois such as yourself but your arguments which you try to put forth as gospel are fundamentally flawed and downright misrepresentations of the game.  I remember people such as yourself during the Dark N Light hype days saying how awesome everything was but the truth became evident to everyone with any experience in mmo gaming.
  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Cydone


    Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.
    Cheers.

     

    The only way Vanguard would be mediocre is if your system is like 5 years old. Sorry, but the graphics and gameplay are amazing. Check it out yourself. Nice troll.



    The only thing VG has going for it IS the graphics. They are wonderful and play great on my SLI 8800 GTX system. That however doesn't make up for the very same gameplay we had in EQ1 and animations that... lets face it seem to be taken directly from EQ1.



    EQ2 had great graphics to when it was released and similar game play and look how well it did. Fortunately for them they have changed the direction of the gameplay and things got better. Perhaps VG will do so before release as well... but the word "bland" does fit the game play very aptly.  I mean it's not even interesting watching your own combat less you like watching someone chop down a tree.
  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534
    Originally posted by Maxzius



    The graphics are nice, the gameplay is terrible.
    The game itself is just... boring, for lack of a better word.  The testers have been saying there is no "hook" to the game for months and there still isn't.
    I'll agree with this. The game itself is absolutely beautiful. When you can get a decent framerate, that is.  Despite a fairly large number of tester's crying out about the lack of a hook, nothing has changed. Not once in the last 4 months of testing (first heavily, later changing to sporadic testing) did I ever encounter something and say to myself "I'm gonna go put a level or 3 on and come back and kick that thing's butt!" Sure, there's some different concepts like the diplomacy card game thing but that one left me totally uninterested. The crafting seemed very dry and the naming criteria/enforcement was brutal. I lost 2 names with no explanation offered -- I just logged in and they had these very generic names.
  • EclipsoEclipso Member Posts: 18

    Vanguard is pretty cool in my opinion. So are you calling me a vanbois? what the hell did you call me sucka?! Sec, let me google that... O... heh why thankyou.. I'm also a walmartbois and a girlbios.. 

     

     

    I have played Vanguard since beta 2 , stuck with it ..  I'm not good with speeches, so I'm going to keep this short.. Vanguard will kill more chinese people than WoW did.. (this is not racism just a premonition)

  • Paragus1Paragus1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,741
    Let's face facts.  Anyone who has followed any beta for any MMO knows that the final beta stages are indeed a good place to form an opinion on a game.   Name one beta for an MMO that had drastic changes implimented in the "open" beta / stress test stages?  This game is scheduled to release in 3 weeks.  It safe to say that what you are seeing now, be it good or bad, is probably going to be the state of the game plus or minus some bug fixes and other tweaking.  



    If the game is as incomplete as some are saying here, this game will probably go the way of EQ2 - that being a bad launch, but a year or 2 down the road will be a solid game.   EQ2 was horrific when it launched, arguable rushed out the door to beat WoW to the shelves.  2 years later the game is very polished and probably the most solid game on the market, even more solid then WoW.  But at this stage, anyone clinging to the "Its only Beta" arguement is living in a state of wild dillusion if you think there is some sweeping changes coming.  Previous beta expereinces for every MMO at this beta stage is time tested and proven this to be the case.
  • DubelDubel Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by Maxzius

    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Cydone


    Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.
    Cheers.

     

    The only way Vanguard would be mediocre is if your system is like 5 years old. Sorry, but the graphics and gameplay are amazing. Check it out yourself. Nice troll.



    The graphics are nice, the gameplay is terrible.

     

    The game itself is just... boring, for lack of a better word.  The testers have been saying there is no "hook" to the game for months and there still isn't.

     

    Exactly.  We've been saying it had no hook since early beta 3, which was when I got in. Now I cant even force myself to log in and test it any longer.  I was one wanted to love this game. I kept klinging on partway thru beta 4 before I realized that VG wasnt going to make a comeback.  The game has taken one bad turn after another and just keeps heading down the path of boring and shallow gameplay.

  • MordithMordith Member UncommonPosts: 210
    I previously considered myself a bit of a Vanboi and couldn't wait for the game to be released.  However, having played now for a couple of months, I have to say that I agree with the negative comments above.  The game play is extremely bland and the character animations are probably worse than present day MMO's like EQ1.  Sure the graphics (trees, landscape etc.) are great, but those animations are abysmal.



    By the way my system is fairly decent:



    Core 2 Duo E6400

    2g DDR2-800

    2 x 256mb 7900gt in SLI
  • SharkypalSharkypal Member Posts: 1,137
    Originally posted by severius

    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Cydone


    Cant stand the hype. please check out the game yourselves, and do not compare it to some third world country 3D game. Vanguard is not, im afraid to say, up there among the good MMO's. Its mediocre at best. it was a longshot.
    Cheers.

     

    The only way Vanguard would be mediocre is if your system is like 5 years old. Sorry, but the graphics and gameplay are amazing. Check it out yourself. Nice troll.

    Because someone does not agree with your opinion does not make them a troll.



    Personally I have a pretty damn sweet system and the game is dull.  There is no life to the game.  Everything done here has been done before, and done better.  I personally find it funny that McQuaid goes on and on about how they are bringing back the "hardcore" and ramping up the difficulty.  How did they do this?  The increased the tedium within the game and increased the work.  They haven't made NPC's smarter, they havent made the ai mobs think and use strategy against the player.   They pour in HPs and energy and say See that's harder and deeper gameplay!  The Questgivers are still npc pez dispensers and the quests are the exact same thing we have been doing for 10 years now.  There is no innovation and the prettiest part of the graphics are the trees, and those are done by Speed Tree, not by sigil.  Oh and lets of course not forget corpse runs... sooo much fun .  Combat is dull and bland, animations are on par with Dark and Light and all in all Vanguard is a pathetic excuse for an entertaining mmo experience.



    I know there is no dissuading vanbois such as yourself but your arguments which you try to put forth as gospel are fundamentally flawed and downright misrepresentations of the game.  I remember people such as yourself during the Dark N Light hype days saying how awesome everything was but the truth became evident to everyone with any experience in mmo gaming.



    Alert ... WoW Fanboi .... Alert. Get lost troll!

     

  • wyzwunwyzwun Member Posts: 328



    { Mod Edit } Vanguard could be the next step of EQ but if the animations stay this poor, this game will die. You cant demand that kind of system specs and then produce this kind of results... WTF, who on earth made these animatons? seriously, sigil fire these people and hire some people from Square Enix or some sht... because its CLEAR you have no clue how animiations should look...

    { Mod Edit }

    "Turn off the sound you gain 30 FPS!"

    Wow, how i just turn off the game? it will really improve my system performance lol.

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  • ShadusShadus Member UncommonPosts: 669

    The game sucks, end of story. It has -zero- hope long term. I put more hope in LoTR online than in Vanguard after playing both for several months. It will appeal to a very small subset of mmo gamers and for them it will be the holy grail, for the vast majority of people however, they're NOT going to like it or enjoy it over any give long period of play.

    Shadus

  • wyzwunwyzwun Member Posts: 328

     

    Nah i dont agree with that. LoTO:O is locked in to a certain structure and for that it will fail. Why would i wana be foot soldier when i can be the real deal. Thats one of the many reasons EQ was so great, it allowed players to live out there dreams....

    Vanguard simply has to many systems, to much content ... if they can just hire someone to clean up those snes animations id be cool.

    Its just clear to me you didnt even play the beta. Its very easy to see what is there. They built the first 10 levels very well, it is done in a way that it will help retain new players....

    Originally posted by Shadus


    The game sucks, end of story. It has -zero- hope long term. I put more hope in LoTR online than in Vanguard after playing both for several months. It will appeal to a very small subset of mmo gamers and for them it will be the holy grail, for the vast majority of people however, they're NOT going to like it or enjoy it over any give long period of play.

    Rites of the Four Horsemen
    http://www.rotfh.com

  • ChikacaChikaca Member Posts: 62
    Yes it's a bland game.



    Go test it for a month before you come hype here how fracking amazing it is.
  • Havoc01Havoc01 Member Posts: 113
    Nothing stands out in this game, very, very bland. I hope WAR and AoC will fair better than this garbage.
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