R.I.P. Anarchy online

mastervile · January 2007

Its been fun long run for this game but no its all over. On dec 14th funcom released lost eden their so called latest expansion but was nothing but a patch a horrible one at that. This is what will soon cause the death of this game ao has been sentenced to die. Lost eden or what it should really should known as is "NGE" funcom has followed in steps of soe and what they did to swg,game over ao. I'm left to wonder if all sci-fi mmorpgs are truely cursed to end like this. The game is now so horrible zoneing is considered an exploit,its all painfully true. Not did this so called expansion [patch] ruin the game and added nothing but junk content its sole function was to ruin the gameplay of all its players. The camera is even now so screwed up people are turning violently ill from playing and in all my years of playing have never seen anything like it. Lost eden is ao's version of "NGE" and funcom has even stated that all gameplay bugs added with LE are intended with no chance to return the good times pre LE. The mass quitings are just around the corner,the intended changes are most foolish things i've seen in my entire time of playing ao. Good job funcom.

Stark · January 2007

AO has been around alot longer than your poor grammar and is not going anywhere. LE did not ruin the game. Comparing AO to SWG is childish and shows how much you don't know about AO and probably anything for that matter. Troll on little Troll.

Hashbrick · January 2007

Well then, stop your bitching and go back to a free account.

There is no way in hell you can compare that too SWG "NGE", LE is like a landslide that killed 3 people, NGE was a tremor that sank a whole continent.

Rikimaru_X · January 2007

Your telling me Lost Eden didn't do too well? Are you kidding me?

mastervile · January 2007

Originally posted by Stark
AO has been around alot longer than your poor grammar and is not going anywhere. LE did not ruin the game. Comparing AO to SWG is childish and shows how much you don't know about AO and probably anything for that matter. Troll on little Troll.

I would expect nothing more from a froob that hasn't paid a day in their life for ao. If you were actually to investiagte a little deeper you would see the truth,perhaps 18+ pages of people ready to quit will speak for itself. http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?t=474171

edit: its now at 23+ pages

felore · January 2007

that thread is nothing more than a bug complaint about not being able to zone when aggro.....i dont know of any mmo that doesnt experience bugs ever so often. I like LE....and AO is still lots of fun....I dont even pvp... I go to Dark Ages of Camelot for that.

I also hate your poll. Every option is negative...what a goofball.

Hashbrick · January 2007

Oh yea and....

There is no way in hell you can compare that too SWG "NGE", LE is like a landslide that killed 3 people, NGE was a tremor that sank a whole continent.

Give it up already...

mastervile · January 2007

Originally posted by felore
that thread is nothing more than a bug complaint about not being able to zone when aggro.....i dont know of any mmo that doesnt experience bugs ever so often. I like LE....and AO is still lots of fun....I dont even pvp... I go to Dark Ages of Camelot for that.

That would be true if it were a bug but its not. It is intended and has ruined the gameplay for everyone. If it were just a bug that would be fixed people wouldn't be quiting its near impossible to do missions or quests or even static dungeons. It is the one issue that will cause the game to die nobody wanted this change and nobody wants it period. If funcom's goal with le was to cause all their paying customers to quit i would say it is a great success. Most of ao's players are very fond of being able to zone and change areas and changing a prime game function that has been the same since the games launch is the worst slap in face we have ever received. This change is intended and wont be reversed it has been stated many times by Craig 'Silirrion' Morrison community manager of Anarchy Online. Ao may last a bit longer but it'll become a froob based game. Only a fool is going to pay funcom to be told zoneing is an exploit.

burmese · January 2007

Most of LE is fine. The thing where you can no longer zone while 'in a fight' is ludicrous and -everyone- in-game hates it. They apparently tried to eliminate some exploit situation and didn't think out the side effects very well.

Vociferor · January 2007

The comparison to swg might have been a little unwise considering the strong feelings ppl still have about that game but nonetheless the op does merit attention for what he is trying to say.

I and most of my ex-org mates agree with what someone posted today and we have done for a long time.....(ex-org mates because I still love the game but quit after the customer service shannanigans at the end of last summer and vowed not to come back till the game is sold on to another company or FC get taken over.....a man can live in hope can't he )

The jist of the observation was summed up more than adequately in the recent thread on the AO community forums that the op points us all too.

"I find it disturbing how frequently Sil (or the people pulling his strings) make statements that very clearly put them [FC] in the position of "We're either lying or we're incompetent". Then when the rationale they use to explain the decision is systematically deconstructed through logical reasoning, they simply stfu and/or delete the thread."

[Sil is the community manager for those that are not in the know.]

If mmorpg players had more spine in general when it comes to forcing mmo's to change their ways by marching with their wallets then I would agree 100% with the OP that the game will not last much longer, at least not in FC's hands. However as there is not a large majority of players who are willing to do this when needed then I would say that with the revenue that FC make from the adverts the fr00bies are exposed to and the players who love the game too much to give it up that it is in little danger of dieing till FC decide to pull the plug.

The question that I'm left considering is when the time comes (leaving aside any judgement on if that is indeed now) whether FC would have the bottle to come right out and honestly say that the game isn't working and that they are gonna have to pull the plug?

I'll let you all make up your own minds but my opinion on it is that: I doubt they would do that before AoC is released and I really doubt that they would be willing to take a financial hit to fix the game and/or expend resources from AoC on their already loyal fans. With the quality of customer interaction I have seen and experienced with Funcom I would expect them to milk the game till the coffers run dry.

So in terms of the poll I'm gonna have to go with an option that wasn't available:

"Already quit it - love the game, hate the company"

EDIT: Grammar and the Font screwed up on me for pasting in some text from an irc channel.

Stratus8 · January 2007

Originally posted by HashBrick

Oh yea and....
There is no way in hell you can compare that too SWG "NGE", LE is like a landslide that killed 3 people, NGE was a tremor that sank a whole continent.
Give it up already...

Very well said

Seloth · January 2007

(Warning: paying player of AO since launch with breaks here and there (especially right after SL blew up everything), Also was a paying member of SWG till the iceberg hit).

A. LE has nothing on Shadowlands and what it did to the game dynamics. 12.6 was a major rework of the pvp (ask any agent)

B. No expansion of AO come close to the fubar that CU and NGE combined did to SWG.

C. if you were here from the start and survived SL, you will survive LE.

D. Paying or Froob (i hate that term fyi), makes no difference, play the game if you enjoy it, if not then go find something that you do. I do not care left or right about bugs that you refer too, none of them are game breakers unless you are the type that zones in to 2 holes starts a fight then runs for the grid terminal when you are loosing. Same for MMD pvpers.

E. LE is bringing something much needed, somethign to do for the 220/30 crowd. Well besides earning raid points for pande.

Seloth, Omni-Med...

trust me I AM a doctor

Getalife · January 2007

Cancelled my two accounts for AO

bye bye!!

30$ for LE? you gotto be f*** kidding me. Its more like a patch and not even a full expansion. You want to steal my money? be more creative. I have been playing this game for 5 years now. I have 4 lvl 220 toons and billions in my bank. But in the end its all useless. I dont even know why i wasted 5 years..omg.. i suck!!

Smaller developers give a lot more content then stupid Funcom. Eve expansions are like real expansions and offer a lot more content.. and yes its free. Funcom is turning into beggars.. but i am not giving you my money anymore. Time to get Eve subscription.

Viktoriah · January 2007

Like someone said above, if you don't like the game, don't play. I personally like the game and will continue to play it.

bigfoots · January 2007

Originally posted by Getalife

Cancelled my two accounts for AO bye bye!!

30$ for LE? you gotto be f*** kidding me. Its more like a patch and not even a full expansion. You want to steal my money? be more creative. I have been playing this game for 5 years now. I have 4 lvl 220 toons and billions in my bank. But in the end its all useless. I dont even know why i wasted 5 years..omg.. i suck!!

Smaller developers give a lot more content then stupid Funcom. Eve expansions are like real expansions and offer a lot more content.. and yes its free. Funcom is turning into beggars.. but i am not giving you my money anymore. Time to get Eve subscription.

Can I have your stuff?

protoroc · January 2007

AI ruined AO long before LE was a thought. So whats this the second expansion Funcom has put out that contains nothing more then a new random dungeon, and some new gimmicks....

Jachele 215/17 doctor RK1 (retired)

GanGStaRz · January 2007

this games always been shit for nubs that cant play real mmorpgs play EvE u nubs!

mbblade · January 2007

Its pretty funny how badly AO started out way back then but then it came around to be playable for more then 5 minutes. After most of the kinks were worked out it seemed to be a decent game that gave you something differant. Like all the other moldy oldy MMOs it is just hanging on, with expansions comming out every year to make it so the peeps that are still playing it stay there. It did help them to have that long F2P for new accounts as well

Delfolio · January 2007

haha!!!! You aint kidding. I remember when you would take five steps and then lag for like a minute, then take five more then more lag!! AO was great from day one till the day I left!!! I wish I never did but shite happens. This game will never die as long as there are people who actually think for themselves and wear their pants where they belong (around the waist) still exist! I played through every expansion and never lost love for this game.

ryuk · January 2007

I've seen this trick by funcom before. Tell the people something will be fixed soon and close the threads to shut up the people. I can tell you whats going to happen over the zoning, funcom will keep milking the wallets of the fools that stay and believe they will fix it someday like a farmer milks a cow till it goes dry and needs to visit the glue factory lol. The definition of soon to funcom is measured in years and as time goes by they will tell you guys were working on it over and over and nothing will happen. I waited years for them fix some of the launch bugs and the timer for their fix is still ticking lol. I can't wait to see what they have planned for aoc.lol Funcom your doing a horrible job keep up the incompetence in all your future endeavors.

ownedyou1 · January 2007

Unlike SWG, AO isnt going anywhere. It's been going strong for 5 years, it's the best sci-fi MMORPG Ever created. Nothing will change that, If things are wrong with the game, such as what you are saying, Unlike SOE, FunCom will fix their mistakes. Been with AO since day 1, me and the other hundreds of thousand 'ain't' goin' nowhere.

ryuk · January 2007

Originally posted by ownedyou1
Unlike SWG, AO isnt going anywhere. It's been going strong for 5 years, it's the best sci-fi MMORPG Ever created. Nothing will change that, If things are wrong with the game, such as what you are saying, Unlike SOE, FunCom will fix their mistakes. Been with AO since day 1, me and the other hundreds of thousand 'ain't' goin' nowhere.

LOL guessed you never played an mp then? fixed yet? lol Nobody leaving is a lie whole orgs are being closed, gardens are empty, dozens of i quit threads in forums pages long lol. All that's left is a bunch of freeloading froobs that play ao simply because its free. It was the best sci-fi mmorpg its piece of crap now. It was a great game before sl came around and changed the cyberpunk feel to the game. If that wasn't bad enough they decided not to do a damn thing about pvp balance/graphics/bugs/lag. Instead they decided to milk the game and keep it in a half ass state for years as a festering half dead corpse.

ownedyou1 · January 2007

I have a 217 MP, And 6 other chars all above 100, However thats not the point. When you see hundres of thousand of players leaving, Rome deserted, Funcom telling its players to 'fuck off and play somthing else', the game being turned into a 'click to attack' mmorpg. You let me know, cause then you can start to compare it to SWG.

You say 'Was' the best SCI-FI, Perhaps you can enlighten us on the great mmorpg SCI-FI that youve found with the complexity of AO, A game that repells kids. I'm sure we'd all like to know about this excellent SCI-FI game thats better than AO. Oh and yes kids, i'm being sarcastic.

Then again you could be right, Rome might be deserted and my couple o' hundred man org might of left, My eyes could be deceiving me.

PS. Use proper Grammer please.

ryuk · January 2007

Originally posted by ownedyou1
I have a 217 MP, And 6 other chars all above 100, However thats not the point. When you see hundres of thousand of players leaving, Rome deserted, Funcom telling its players to 'fuck off and play somthing else', the game being turned into a 'click to attack' mmorpg. You let me know, cause then you can start to compare it to SWG.
You say 'Was' the best SCI-FI, Perhaps you can enlighten us on the great mmorpg SCI-FI that youve found with the complexity of AO, A game that repells kids. I'm sure we'd all like to know about this excellent SCI-FI game thats better than AO. Oh and yes kids, i'm being sarcastic.
Then again you could be right, Rome might be deserted and my couple o' hundred man org might of left, My eyes could be deceiving me.
PS. Use proper Grammer please.

Let me guess that hundred man org is eleven people with nine alts and some froobs. You never mentioned the gardens they are empty but i guess you can't go there to see for yourself. Lol eve online is good. I find you to be a hypocrite also telling people to use proper grammar when you even spelled it wrong along with other words in your post lol. I think you would make a piss poor school teacher since you insist on grading people on their work when yours is just as wrong. Here have one of my worm infested apples you deserve it lol.

ownedyou1 · January 2007

Now now kids, lets get back on topic. Whether my grammer is bad or not that doesn't alter the fact that AO isn't dying, thousands of people arn't leaving, the world isn't coming to an end.

Ofcourse lets talk about offtopic - we may aswell make it last as this is turning into a kiddies spam fest and will be deleted shortly.

If you can't be mature enough to bring up an argument about anything except my grammer, that is why you loose.

Lets analyse EVE online.

Logon , Looks at your certs, click learn.. Log off, log back on, see youve learned a cert, learn a new one, logoff.

Thats all eve is. I've played it , i know, Your great mmorpg SCI-FI orgasm is no more than a new means of grinding without being at the keyboard.

If you can't think of a better argument than to badly attempt to insult me, just dont post because im sure there are more mature people who would like to have a debate about the serious issues.

ryuk · January 2007

Originally posted by ownedyou1
Now now kids, lets get back on topic. Whether my grammer is bad or not that doesn't alter the fact that AO isn't dying, thousands of people arn't leaving, the world isn't coming to an end.Ofcourse lets talk about offtopic - we may aswell make it last as this is turning into a kiddies spam fest and will be deleted shortly.If you can't be mature enough to bring up an argument about anything except my grammer, that is why you loose.
Lets analyse EVE online.Logon , Looks at your certs, click learn.. Log off, log back on, see youve learned a cert, learn a new one, logoff.Thats all eve is. I've played it , i know, Your great mmorpg SCI-FI orgasm is no more than a new means of grinding without being at the keyboard.If you can't think of a better argument than to badly attempt to insult me, just dont post because im sure there are more mature people who would like to have a debate about the serious issues.

First off your the one that wanted to play teacher and a poor one at that lol. You have only yourself to blame for that.

Now then,you say thousands of people aren't leaving which is a misconception. The population of ao doesn't go into big numbers like wow for example i would ballpark around 5,000 + or - thats a low population to begin with. When i log in i always see the same people over and over i know them all by name. The froob program was designed to prop up the game since the game's population was dead to begin with if their were no froobs the game would of been canned long ago. Thousands don't have to quit to kill ao it's already happened all the paying customers are slowly being replaced by a froob population. Thousands of people can't leave like you say they weren't there to begin with. However every paying customer that does leave now has a dramatic impact on the game. Do you see the empty gardens? Thousands of people don't need to leave to kill it just enough so the population is more froob then paying customer and the game becomes unprofitable.The game is now just funcom's leech to milk the remaining paying customers for all they got and lure froobs into upgrading and paying. The graphics will never be upgraded the bugs will never be fixed lag will always be horrible. The froobs shall inherit ao in due time and will see it though till its end. I recommend you pay more attention to the forums and all the people saying goodbye and orgs being closed. You never took in account that most people that are quiting are riding out their subs to get their $ worth from ao. When those subs end and people start vanishing you'll notice then lol.

As for eve online just because you don't personally like it doesn't mean its not an innovative and good game.

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