I was wrong in my quote from before so I apologize. I was talking about gm's not devs that I had seen running around in the game. All i can say is what I see when I log on everyday. That happens to be in my eyes a growth in what was an anemic population this time a year ago. They fix alot of bugs on a weekly basis thats an improvement in my eyes. Anyway it is pointless to argue. Whats done is done and there is no changing that. I do feel this post is premature though. Mark my words the game will not be shut down any time soon. I know you guys are hoping for that but it's just not going to happen
I am a day one vet who quit right after the nge and resubs every once in a while with a glimmer of hope that swg has become fun again. With the exception of 2 months ago, everytime I resub, there has been less and less players ingame. I go from city to city (including player cities) looking for old friends or even a sign of activity only to be disappointed just as much as I was the last time I resub'd . I walk through dead cities that at one time were thriving with players. I did see a little bit more activity this last time but it wasnt much better than before. I mean...if you see an average of 10 players everytime you log on and the next time you see 13 thats quite a difference when youre talking in small numbers.
Lets face it. As much as I hate to say it the OP is right. The game is dying. It cant go on in its current state that much longer. The content sucks, pvp sucks, crafting sucks. The whole game smells of rotting flesh. It is NOTHING like it was when it was first released.
It isn't completely bad. You guys probably play on the less populated servers. Servers like Bria still have a lot of people, but quite a bit less than before NGE. I predict the game will keep going for a while. Don't get me wrong, I HATE THE NGE, but as the developers keep improving the game, it will see an increase in players. The professions it looks like, will get a little bit better. They are working on "improvements." Sorry if anyone posted something like this before, I skipped through most of this. -->-->-->
yea, i would have to say that SWG has a TON less players than they did their first year, and before pre-suck, but after the suckage came people who loved the release version quit, i know i did along with all my friends. So to say that servers are still populated by alot is like saying o theres alot of milk in my 10oz bottle, when the other day the bottle was 30oz. Kinda a weird analogy, but what i'm saying is that if you compare the amount of people now to before its dwindled down to nothiness. Just thought i'd throw this out there, since alot of people i noticed say: "lots of people play", but in comparison to what? checkers?
edit: Petepp this isn't in response to you, or anyone here, cause well i didn't read any of it, just thought this would be a good place to post this
The population is now way too low to even support the operating costs of the machines, bandwidth, CSR's,forums, and the 2-3 devs they have left much less the $10 mil license fee from LEC. As I stated back in the summer, I think the shutdown is imminent. The only way they have out is classic. Which I doubt they will do.
How would you know???? Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Addy, Rouge 5, Tunso, Jneri, Gris, Neif, Chrysalide, Tereb, Vapor. Here is the link to there next chat they will be having to discuss the upcoming chapter 5 trader revamp http://swg.stratics.com/content/news/GeneralNews.php#newsitem1168527506,75953, I was wrong in my quote from before so I apologize. I was talking about gm's not devs that I had seen running around in the game. All i can say is what I see when I log on everyday. That happens to be in my eyes a growth in what was an anemic population this time a year ago. They fix alot of bugs on a weekly basis thats an improvement in my eyes. Anyway it is pointless to argue. Whats done is done and there is no changing that. I do feel this post is premature though. Mark my words the game will not be shut down any time soon. I know you guys are hoping for that but it's just not going to happen
Jneri is a LA producer, not a DEV. So is Neif. Gris is/was an AP. Tereb I thought only compiled publishes, not an actual code writer, but I'll give you that anyways.
Anyone have a good count of how many DEVs we did have during the peak? I mean actual programmers, not producers, Smedlies, assistants, towel boy or janitors, lol.
As for SWG's demise, I will only believe when I see it. IMHO it's pretty dead and I'm waiting to see what the trader revamp does. AND A DARN HOUSING PURGE!
It isn't completely bad. You guys probably play on the less populated servers. Servers like Bria still have a lot of people, but quite a bit less than before NGE. I predict the game will keep going for a while. Don't get me wrong, I HATE THE NGE, but as the developers keep improving the game, it will see an increase in players. The professions it looks like, will get a little bit better. They are working on "improvements." Sorry if anyone posted something like this before, I skipped through most of this. -->-->-->
I was (am) on a populated server, bloodfin. Bloodfin today is considered one of the top 5 in server population and it is earily empty.
And as far as improvements, we have heard that "same ole song and dance" ever since they released the nge. Like I said in my earlier post. Every time I resub I look for improvements in the game with disappointing results.
The funny thing is, if SOE had any balls they would come out and say they made a big mistake and at least take the game back to the CU and work on it from there. The NGE was by far the biggest mistake ever made in mmorpg history but most of you already know that.
Your right about that, Hamrtime. Sort of like Bush and the war in Iraq...nvm. Please don't kill me! -->-->--> (sry, I love to group those emoticons, any excuse to do so. Good ol' time smily face beat up fun.)
Heh, like it was meant to shutdown this time last year? I'm sure we'll probably be here again this time next year having the same argument all over again
Well The reason that SWG still have its 50 people playing it, It's because the new mmos of 06 "Suxed!!" really bad!!, Now with burnning crusade, out there, vanguard, age of conan, WAR, Aion, And maybe if Darkfall is released, The population of swg will drop even more, Only way to get people to play This POS, is to bring pre-cu or Cu back, NGE just Sux! It's too bad! Only the really die hard fans, would play this crap.
The population is now way too low to even support the operating costs of the machines, bandwidth, CSR's,forums, and the 2-3 devs they have left much less the $10 mil license fee from LEC. As I stated back in the summer, I think the shutdown is imminent. The only way they have out is classic. Which I doubt they will do.
GOOD RIDDANCE!
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
While I love Star Wars, I don't mind seeing Galaxies go. It had a LOT of incredible potential but horrible management and decision making... just... poorly executed. Now, with Galaxies dead I'm sure I'm not the only one who longs for a truly GREAT Star Wars MMO which IS possible, it just has to be done by the right people. Although this is only rumor, what a sweet rumor it is:
heres the thing WE ALL DONT PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE why does it even amtter if theya re shut down just let it go i have. all the people that are still stuck on this game but dont play it i really think you need professional help.
i think that yea, SWG is doing very poorly. but close down? i don't think so. they probably have a contract with LEC in fact. (i have nothing to support this, except an extreme amount of common sense >_> ) SoE like it or not has extrodinarily deep pockets, the've published moree MMO's then i know about, and they've developed like what.. 6? anyway, SoE has the financial power to keep anything afloat theoretically as long as they'd need. if they still think that the devs will pull a bunny of of the hat (at this point, it must be a very big bunny.. with antlers... and it needs to be able to shoot rainbows at grumpy bears to impress...) then they will keep SWG up. now, this isn't feesible with the name SWG. however, with the SW IP the possibilites are limitless. who knows, the next NGE could be in a week and might completely polarize the game!
heres the thing WE ALL DONT PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE why does it even amtter if theya re shut down just let it go i have. all the people that are still stuck on this game but dont play it i really think you need professional help.
i don't play anymore, but i'm not stuck on it because they killed my world, or my puppy, or w/e you want to say. i'm out for blood because of their... lack... of business ethics. i got robbed a year or 2 ago, and if i ever meet up with that guy i'd hang him by his toes, not because the things he stole aren't replacable, he stole an mp3 player and a trumpet... but it's because he robbed me! >.<
This summer Blizard is going to transfer the Warcraft IP to me, buy me a mansion, and fill it with money. And it all must be true because I posted it on an internet forum with no supporting facts!
I don't think it's any secret that SWG is going down the tubes and has been since the NGE. I think they really hoped to get younger players into the game to replace all the older veterans, but that just hasn't happened. Has anyone else noticed the dissapearance of the TV commercials and a total lack of other advertising?
There were things that I tolerated while the game was good (1 char per server for example) that I simply wouldn't tolerate anymore.
You know, on the SWG official forums, someone predicted the NGE months before it happened and everyone flamed him with various pwned and n00b variations, though he turned out to be right in the end.
So if this game shuts down, will those of you who laugh it off be prepared to eat your words?
Shutting down SW:G this soon after such major changes will never happen. That would be SOE admitting defeat. I know for a fact that LA would demand a roll back first to keep the game going.
At the present time, while numbers are not CU or Pre-CU levels; they are climbing. Vets are returning. Expertise is almost finished.
Jedi still is odd...but hey..I can use my sunriders
I don't think it's any secret that SWG is going down the tubes and has been since the NGE. I think they really hoped to get younger players into the game to replace all the older veterans, but that just hasn't happened. Has anyone else noticed the dissapearance of the TV commercials and a total lack of other advertising?
There were things that I tolerated while the game was good (1 char per server for example) that I simply wouldn't tolerate anymore.
You know, on the SWG official forums, someone predicted the NGE months before it happened and everyone flamed him with various pwned and n00b variations, though he turned out to be right in the end.
So if this game shuts down, will those of you who laugh it off be prepared to eat your words?
Would you as a business man waste your money on adverstising this game?
The contract no doubt has influence on the game right now, no doubt about that.
When the game shuts down, they will run for cover, claim they knew it all this time and then say.. they just were testing the NGE anyway. Pretty much the NGE crowd makes excuses why they are playing right now... or defend themselves. They do not reply with "But the game is great and its working properly" -- No , they respond with -- "Quit whining" -- Or "If you don't like it leave"... but when you ask them hows the population or how is that plan working out for them.. .they tend to get quiet fast lol.
They do not like seeing facts thrown in thier face, that is for sure.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
Bah complete nonsense!!! On my server, the population is past stretching point, the game has never been more popular, I can even supply screenshots if you like to back it up.
Please endulge us. I want to see lots of people anywhere except Mos Eisley.
edit: never mind didnt notice you were being sarcastic.
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Here is the link to there next chat they will be having to discuss the upcoming chapter 5 trader revamp
http://swg.stratics.com/content/news/GeneralNews.php#newsitem1168527506,75953,
I was wrong in my quote from before so I apologize. I was talking about gm's not devs that I had seen running around in the game. All i can say is what I see when I log on everyday. That happens to be in my eyes a growth in what was an anemic population this time a year ago. They fix alot of bugs on a weekly basis thats an improvement in my eyes. Anyway it is pointless to argue. Whats done is done and there is no changing that. I do feel this post is premature though. Mark my words the game will not be shut down any time soon. I know you guys are hoping for that but it's just not going to happen
So you stated last summer that the shutdown was imminent, and it didn't happen.
Now you're stating again that shutdown is imminent. Excuse me if I take your post with a grain of salt.
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Lets face it. As much as I hate to say it the OP is right. The game is dying. It cant go on in its current state that much longer. The content sucks, pvp sucks, crafting sucks. The whole game smells of rotting flesh. It is NOTHING like it was when it was first released.
It isn't completely bad. You guys probably play on the less populated servers. Servers like Bria still have a lot of people, but quite a bit less than before NGE. I predict the game will keep going for a while. Don't get me wrong, I HATE THE NGE, but as the developers keep improving the game, it will see an increase in players. The professions it looks like, will get a little bit better. They are working on "improvements." Sorry if anyone posted something like this before, I skipped through most of this. -->-->-->
edit: Petepp this isn't in response to you, or anyone here, cause well i didn't read any of it, just thought this would be a good place to post this
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How would you know???? Bring it on down now.
Damn byotch dat aint no friggn moon fool, dat be a friggn space station byotch.
Anyone have a good count of how many DEVs we did have during the peak? I mean actual programmers, not producers, Smedlies, assistants, towel boy or janitors, lol.
As for SWG's demise, I will only believe when I see it. IMHO it's pretty dead and I'm waiting to see what the trader revamp does. AND A DARN HOUSING PURGE!
Before it gets shut down a "Focus Group" has to decide the date.
If it is announced it is going down...my guess the announcement will be before the end of March....and six months after that it will close.
And as far as improvements, we have heard that "same ole song and dance" ever since they released the nge. Like I said in my earlier post. Every time I resub I look for improvements in the game with disappointing results.
The funny thing is, if SOE had any balls they would come out and say they made a big mistake and at least take the game back to the CU and work on it from there. The NGE was by far the biggest mistake ever made in mmorpg history but most of you already know that.
Your right about that, Hamrtime. Sort of like Bush and the war in Iraq...nvm. Please don't kill me! -->-->--> (sry, I love to group those emoticons, any excuse to do so. Good ol' time smily face beat up fun.)
What deserves to be done, deserves to be "well" done...
While I love Star Wars, I don't mind seeing Galaxies go. It had a LOT of incredible potential but horrible management and decision making... just... poorly executed. Now, with Galaxies dead I'm sure I'm not the only one who longs for a truly GREAT Star Wars MMO which IS possible, it just has to be done by the right people. Although this is only rumor, what a sweet rumor it is:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/724/724236p1.html
BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.
This summer Blizard is going to transfer the Warcraft IP to me, buy me a mansion, and fill it with money.
And it all must be true because I posted it on an internet forum with no supporting facts!
I'm Here. I'm Awesome. Get Used To It.
i think that yea, SWG is doing very poorly. but close down? i don't think so. they probably have a contract with LEC in fact. (i have nothing to support this, except an extreme amount of common sense >_> ) SoE like it or not has extrodinarily deep pockets, the've published moree MMO's then i know about, and they've developed like what.. 6? anyway, SoE has the financial power to keep anything afloat theoretically as long as they'd need. if they still think that the devs will pull a bunny of of the hat (at this point, it must be a very big bunny.. with antlers... and it needs to be able to shoot rainbows at grumpy bears to impress...) then they will keep SWG up. now, this isn't feesible with the name SWG. however, with the SW IP the possibilites are limitless. who knows, the next NGE could be in a week and might completely polarize the game!
hey, it's not nutty... it happened before right?
There were things that I tolerated while the game was good (1 char per server for example) that I simply wouldn't tolerate anymore.
You know, on the SWG official forums, someone predicted the NGE months before it happened and everyone flamed him with various pwned and n00b variations, though he turned out to be right in the end.
So if this game shuts down, will those of you who laugh it off be prepared to eat your words?
I hate to disagree...but I will :P
Shutting down SW:G this soon after such major changes will never happen. That would be SOE admitting defeat. I know for a fact that LA would demand a roll back first to keep the game going.
At the present time, while numbers are not CU or Pre-CU levels; they are climbing. Vets are returning. Expertise is almost finished.
Jedi still is odd...but hey..I can use my sunriders
MMO History: 2528 days in SW:G
Would you as a business man waste your money on adverstising this game?
The contract no doubt has influence on the game right now, no doubt about that.
When the game shuts down, they will run for cover, claim they knew it all this time and then say.. they just were testing the NGE anyway. Pretty much the NGE crowd makes excuses why they are playing right now... or defend themselves. They do not reply with "But the game is great and its working properly" -- No , they respond with -- "Quit whining" -- Or "If you don't like it leave"... but when you ask them hows the population or how is that plan working out for them.. .they tend to get quiet fast lol.
They do not like seeing facts thrown in thier face, that is for sure.
______________________________
I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
I think right now the SOLE thing keeping the game up is that if SOE shuts it down they will still be shelling out the $10 million.
But they are now at the point where by continuing to keep it running it may be costing them more than $10 million in losses.
edit: never mind didnt notice you were being sarcastic.