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Vanguard: Saga of Heroes: Open Beta to Close on January 23

GAME WIRE announces Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Open Beta will close on January 23

Sony Online Entertainment and Sigil Games Online announced today that the
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes open beta will close on January 23 at 11:59 p.m.
PST. In anticipation of the January 30th launch of the fantasy-themed
MMORPG, the servers will be shut down, and all beta character profiles will
be transferred to a test server. The test server will open after launch with
timing to be determined. For those who have pre-ordered Vanguard: Saga of
Heroes, early access will be granted to the live servers before the
official release date. More information regarding the early access will be
released shortly.

Players can now pre-order Vanguard: Saga of Heroes digitally and at
retail. Additionally, gamers that pre-order retail versions will receive an
exclusive endurance buff scroll that will allow their character to sprint
for longer periods of time (one per account).

Read more here.

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  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.



    Anyone still using the "Its in Beta" excuse?



    So, lets see, No official forums, Performance issues are still #1 issue for most people, and most of the hard core fans said that everything would be fixed for GOLD...



    Yeah....



    Like i said when beta 5 opened, your basically playing retail right now. Open beta means 2-4 weeks before live...



    Maybe ill revisit this game in a year’s time when the real beta is over.

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  • MaeEyeMaeEye Member UncommonPosts: 1,107
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.



    Anyone still using the "Its in Beta" excuse?



    So, lets see, No official forums, Performance issues are still #1 issue for most people, and most of the hard core fans said that everything would be fixed for GOLD...



    Yeah....



    Like i said when beta 5 opened, your basically playing retail right now. Open beta means 2-4 weeks before live...



    Maybe ill revisit this game in a year’s time when the real beta is over.
    Whoever uses that escuse need to be shot.  First off, the game really doesn't suffer from bugs...the main focus I think is animations that need to be tweaked.  Performance is better than ever.  Again, anyone that complains should just upgrade.  I have a Geforce 7600GT with 1 gig ram and I run around 25-30fps in game....which is DAMN good for a mmorpg.  This game is ready for release, it's time to get thing moving.  I don't care if it's Beta 6 or whatever.  I'm ready to get my character moving.  Beside the lag and a few bugs here and there, the game is awsome.  Every game suffers from lag at first.  Wait 3 month and this game will shine like no other.
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  • anoma7yanoma7y Member Posts: 27

    I am so disappointed with V. It really breaks my heart.

    If you want to grind your way through the world with old generation looking characters and awful combat animation, then knock yourself out. The beautiful world will never make up for poor mechanics and unexciting gameplay.

    I gave it another shot last night and made a Dread knight, after previously trying a sorcerer and necromancer. Simply unreal how lame the combat animations are. Unbelievable how unrealistic, unfantastic, and simply weak the warrior looks swinging the sword.

  • DentoDento Member UncommonPosts: 138
    Originally posted by anoma7y


    I am so disappointed with V. It really breaks my heart.
    If you want to grind your way through the world with old generation looking characters and awful combat animation, then knock yourself out. The beautiful world will never make up for poor mechanics and unexciting gameplay.
    I gave it another shot last night and made a Dread knight, after previously trying a sorcerer and necromancer. Simply unreal how lame the combat animations are. Unbelievable how unrealistic, unfantastic, and simply weak the warrior looks swinging the sword.



    I Totaly agree.

    I don't find the game very interesting at all, I had such hi hopes for it.

     

  • moxuout2moxuout2 Member Posts: 96
    Funny, FP subscriptons only for OB..and its about to close. Sounds like they are trying to keep the game small till launch to trick people into buying it. To bad Vangaurd, maybe next game you will get some fans.
  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by MaeEye

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.



    Anyone still using the "Its in Beta" excuse?



    So, lets see, No official forums, Performance issues are still #1 issue for most people, and most of the hard core fans said that everything would be fixed for GOLD...



    Yeah....



    Like i said when beta 5 opened, your basically playing retail right now. Open beta means 2-4 weeks before live...



    Maybe ill revisit this game in a year’s time when the real beta is over.
    Whoever uses that escuse need to be shot.  First off, the game really doesn't suffer from bugs...the main focus I think is animations that need to be tweaked.  Performance is better than ever.  Again, anyone that complains should just upgrade.  I have a Geforce 7600GT with 1 gig ram and I run around 25-30fps in game....which is DAMN good for a mmorpg.  This game is ready for release, it's time to get thing moving.  I don't care if it's Beta 6 or whatever.  I'm ready to get my character moving.  Beside the lag and a few bugs here and there, the game is awsome.  Every game suffers from lag at first.  Wait 3 month and this game will shine like no other.



    I’m not going to argue with you, but i will say this. Upgrading beyond what is stated to be required, and sometimes what is recommended, just to make up for the lack of optimization, and compatibility testing on currently available hardware, is sad.

    That’s like saying, “PIFFT my Porsche has the smoothest ride on a gravel road  if you just upgrade your Porsche to add 8 wheels, you will get a smother ride...”

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  • dezsodezso Member UncommonPosts: 19
    Originally posted by MaeEye

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.



    Anyone still using the "Its in Beta" excuse?



    So, lets see, No official forums, Performance issues are still #1 issue for most people, and most of the hard core fans said that everything would be fixed for GOLD...



    Yeah....



    Like i said when beta 5 opened, your basically playing retail right now. Open beta means 2-4 weeks before live...



    Maybe ill revisit this game in a year’s time when the real beta is over.
    Whoever uses that escuse need to be shot.  First off, the game really doesn't suffer from bugs...the main focus I think is animations that need to be tweaked.  Performance is better than ever.  Again, anyone that complains should just upgrade.  I have a Geforce 7600GT with 1 gig ram and I run around 25-30fps in game....which is DAMN good for a mmorpg.  This game is ready for release, it's time to get thing moving.  I don't care if it's Beta 6 or whatever.  I'm ready to get my character moving.  Beside the lag and a few bugs here and there, the game is awsome.  Every game suffers from lag at first.  Wait 3 month and this game will shine like no other.

     

    Well I have a 2gig of Ram a E6800Dual Core Extreme and a 8800GTX and I am telling you it lags like hell, its bugged and its NOT ready.

    I create a character then the servers crash and when I relog my toon looks different, in fact last week I crashed out and instead of coming back as a warrior I returned as a Mage type with a pet!!! If thats not a bug then what is??

    I am interested in playing but they seriously need to sort out the lag, its so bad at times it makes me feel sick, so I will wait 3-6 months before I take a good look at this game. I really cannot understand why Sigal are rushing this game out as people will try it and then log back into whatever they were playing before.

  • iamjmkiamjmk Member Posts: 51

    Well for me the game lags a little but the real deal breaker is the loopy combat animations. I mean come on you have spent how much money making this game and these are the best you can do? I mean damn!  The Dread Knight swinging his sword made me laugh out loud. Anyway if they get some new animations and keep patching the world up and optimzing it I may try back in 6 months to a year.........till then no dice.

  • RyowulfRyowulf Member UncommonPosts: 664
    How is it open beta when you have to pay to play?
  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716

    I'll just boil everything down to this:

    Vanguard wont be for everyone niether will it have everyone who beta'ed to convert to retail, but that is totally to be expected. Dispite the naysayers here yes VG is 'disapointing' as it's not polished nor does it throw a shed load of content at you from the get go, however it does it fact have a soild playerbase behind it; yea it may not be in the x millions but Sigil are old school devs they won't look at it on release and say 'Oh crap we didn't pull the WoW playerbase over, lets pack it in' I responce I'd be expecting from these 'newer' devs that have just jumped on the MMO bandwagon since WoW hit the big time.

    Sigil will build on Vanguard as it goes and it will grow theres a lot still to descover about it, this wont be a game which you'll see it's true glory from the start, it's true glory is the size of the world itself as if you really think about it the 'lack' of content players seem to to see in the game is I beleave based on the dev content given however if you look at it from the player created content point of view there is and will be a lot there, player housing is the key to this game, it's not just an instanced room full of pritty colllectable objects, they are shops, inns and actal homes actally there in the world, hence why the world is 'barren' of content we the players have yet to build on it, in this game the world will change thru players effect, other games have promised this type of content before and have failed I truly think Vanguard have finally brought somthing that we the payers have wanted for a long time to life.

    Vanguard is I beleave the first big time title for a while now and it is still unknown how long we have to wait until another like it comes to light due to push backs of other titles, so I do actively recomend anyone thats sitting on their hands 'waiting' for the 'next big game' to at least try Vanguard once there is a trial avalible to play this; in the short term Vanguard yes is 'dissapointing' but looking at this game long term it truly can be the next big thing in classical style MMOs.

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • iamjmkiamjmk Member Posts: 51

    Well Kremlik I agree with you. I think the game has the right ideas in spades. The world, the idea of having your own shop and going exploring in vast and varied lands. Homes and ships all that stuff is going to make the game fun. My concern is the the Combat animations as I said in my earlier post. They really, really bother me. In fact they kinda of take me out of the game which is why its such a deal breaker for me.

    Still I agree everyone should at least give it a try and see for themself. Once its out and they have a trial please download it and see if its for you. Unless they rework those animations I'm going to have to pass at least for now. Cheers all and have a great day!

  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 674

    Lag is only issue I have had. I get up to 40 FPS then drop to 0 and back up again. I am not blaming the game though. Not the first game when it started that I had that problem and probably won't be last.

    I have totally enjoyed what little I have explored. I love the crafting, harvesting, and diplomacy even the bugged parts. I don't have a problem with the graphics. I still enjoy WoW graphics over any of the other games that have come out right before or since it has come out that is not a Korean game. I want my games to be slightly comical looking. I don't want my game to look real. What fun is that. To each person that is a personal choice though. That is why I laugh at the combat animations comments. I play in 1st person view so don't see them. Guess I will soon though.

    Good luck all who play at release. I know that I will be one who is sort of grinding my way through. Hopefully will find a guild at some point that is semi-casual and get to experience that side of the game.

     

  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295
    Originally posted by anoma7y


    I am so disappointed with V. It really breaks my heart.
    If you want to grind your way through the world with old generation looking characters and awful combat animation, then knock yourself out. The beautiful world will never make up for poor mechanics and unexciting gameplay.
    I gave it another shot last night and made a Dread knight, after previously trying a sorcerer and necromancer. Simply unreal how lame the combat animations are. Unbelievable how unrealistic, unfantastic, and simply weak the warrior looks swinging the sword.



    Its really upsetting to me, but I have to agree. That doesn't mean that Vanguard won't improve however.  I think in a few months, it could really see come positive changes to the combat and animations.  The core game features are mostly intact, and as far as the world goes, there really isn't another mmorpg to match it (at least one where you don't have to go through zones).

    I'm still suffering some performance problems, even with all of the tweaks I've tried.  I am running the beta right now at a very frustrating Balance option.  Its frustrating because it seems like there is absolutely no difference in performance from the High quality setting I had it on to begin with.

    Give it time, and Vanguard will improve, but I am anxious to play it!  It will be a test of my patience, but right now, I don't plan on playing at release, and no, you can't have my beta key for early entrance!

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by Aazgaroth


    Want some cheese with that whine, people??  The game is lagging because they are running a debug in beta. That is almost like running 2 versions of the game at the same time, imo (Don't flame me people, I'm NOT an effin math major.)  Simply put, there will likely be a bit of lag, but no where near the current level.  I personally cleared up my lag issue my resetting my ingame vid option to highest performance.  I will likely put it back to high performance or balanced, so I see the terrain effects.  I am currently running a (modest) bit over min. req.  and it's just fine. 
    As for the disappointed people who think it lacks, don't play it. Saves the rest of us from hearing endless "Barrens" WoW chat and GAWD I've had enough of THAT (2 yrs of WoW, pfft MY bad).  I'm very excited about player housing.  I miss that from SWG.  I already discovered huge amounts of plots in beta and YES, it's near the beach so don't steal em all! LOL.  Crafting i haven't figured a few things out yet, but diplomacy kicks @$$!  Kremlik had it right.  If you missed his post (above) go back to it.
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    You keep thinking that.

    Most people’s performance issues are just that, Performance issues, not server latency, Servers don’t cause reboots (Client computer reboots, before anyone says The reset the server”), critical errors, over heated vid cards, .Dll errors, driver crashes, incompatible hardware issues that are Random, or Memory leaks leading to a HUGE amount of memory being chewed up and not releasing over time.

    The above reasons are why people need to over compensate with computer hardware to make it playable.

    There are lots of things i truly like about vanguard...but like i said... Ill wait a year until the real beta is over. The above issues will not be addressed by launch.

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  • DreamsIn3DDreamsIn3D Member Posts: 86
    Does Open Beta mean anyone can dl it or members of certain forums? And if anyone can dl it, where do you get it from?



    Thanks.

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  • CerionCerion Member Posts: 1,005

    I'm really glad these games have fanbois who are willing to pay to beta test games that release too early.  While I do see many good things about Vanguard, it still has some shoddy quality to it.

    1). Server crashes

    2). CharGen is bugged. I've tried making two new characters is recent days, but as soon as I hit 'finish' several of my avatar's characteristics change--things like beard to no beard, or normal eyes to squinty eyes.

    3). MOBs warping in combat.

    4). Broken quests/tasks.

    5). swimming animation and control is dodgy.

    Those are issues I encounter without even really trying to break the game.

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  • RodzillaRodzilla Member UncommonPosts: 159
    Ill have to agree with this poster.   
    Originally posted by anoma7y


    I am so disappointed with V. It really breaks my heart.
    If you want to grind your way through the world with old generation looking characters and awful combat animation, then knock yourself out. The beautiful world will never make up for poor mechanics and unexciting gameplay.
    I gave it another shot last night and made a Dread knight, after previously trying a sorcerer and necromancer. Simply unreal how lame the combat animations are. Unbelievable how unrealistic, unfantastic, and simply weak the warrior looks swinging the sword.

    searching for the next DAoC....

    Kay-exile

  • miticmitic Member Posts: 16
    hose who are posting "the battle moves/animations suck" clearly should stay at their first person shooter mmog games.
  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136

    I wish it was longer but the 23rd sounds about right.  Estimated 3 day early start for preorders leaves 3 full days for Sigil to work on the game until launch.  I'm interested to see what these forums look like once the game goes live.  A person might be able to say something good about Vanguard without being flamed or called names.

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • KremlikKremlik Member UncommonPosts: 716
    Originally posted by Deron_Barak


    I wish it was longer but the 23rd sounds about right.  Estimated 3 day early start for preorders leaves 3 full days for Sigil to work on the game until launch.  I'm interested to see what these forums look like once the game goes live.  A person might be able to say something good about Vanguard without being flamed or called names.


     

    Your joking right? this is BashMMORPG.com after all, all those who like whatever game they are in are probly too busy playing it to post anything good about their respective games, Vanguard will get bashed to bits even if it ends up a smash hit in the end (ala EVE and WoW).

    Like I said in my above post (which I do recommend you read before you flame me for this one, ta for the complements btw ) and game has potential to be a good game it's just gonna come out a tad ruff around the edges, and thanks to the uber polishedness of WoW, players are expecting the same off all newer titles now and they wont get it hence the 'disapointment'. I can name a lot of games that have 'crashed and burned' on release day and that have turned out after 6-12 months not nessercerly a 'smash hit' but have had a solid and loyal fanbase for a long time, Vanguard will be one of those games.

    So ignoring the techical and coping 'issues' theres really nothing wrong with the game, it just isn't polished enough for some people.

    Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!

  • DentoDento Member UncommonPosts: 138

    As someone else said already I'm glad there are people who will pay while Vanguard continues to beta test this game maybe in a year or so it will be ready for prime time.

    And it has little to do with the polish of WOW but getting what you pay for.

    If they are going to give the game out for free I would tell everyone to get a copy but the fact is they are going to be charging the same as most other companies charge for a completed product even though the game is full of bugs and lacks content.

     I'm sure they will get it worked out in time but should I have to pay for that not only in terms of cash but with also putting up with the frustration of waiting for the bugs to be worked out, I don't think so.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Originally posted by Dento


     I'm sure they will get it worked out in time but should I have to pay for that not only in terms of cash but with also putting up with the frustration of waiting for the bugs to be worked out, I don't think so.



    Then please don't play.  Developers have explained why they are releasing now (against their wishes) and promised to straighten things out in the coming months.

    I'm willing to pay my sub fee and put up with the aggrevation for at least 3 months to see if they make forward progress.... if not... I'll drop and do something else.  I do so of my own free will.. those who don't want to... please go play something else and maybe we'll see you later this year.

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  • MordithMordith Member UncommonPosts: 210
    I personally have no problem with them releasing VG early because, quite frankly, I will not play it for at least 6 months in this state whether it is in beta or released.  If having people pay for beta will ultimately make it a better game, I am all for it (they are just not going to get my money for it - and I have Station Pass).

    As to the state of the game, the performance is abysmal for a game about to release. My system consists of a core 2 duo E6400, 2 x 7900gt in SLI, 2 gig RAM, 7200 rpm sata hd.  Even with my system the hitching in the game is bad and makes playing annoying at best.  Moreover, as stated a number of times above, the character animations are just plain bad.  That truly is a problem for me.



    Despite the above, I really believe that VG can be a good game, but it is going to take a minimum of six months to hammer out the issues (but probably closer to one year).
  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    Actually I agree with your points Kremlik.  Vanguard will not be for everyone but it offers a lot for one MMO title.  It does need polish, bells, whistles, etc. but it is a good game and has solid components.  Beta 6 tester or not I would rather play VG than any other MMO out right now.

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • KarandorKarandor Member Posts: 113
    Originally posted by Cerion


    I'm really glad these games have fanbois who are willing to pay to beta test games that release too early.  While I do see many good things about Vanguard, it still has some shoddy quality to it.
    1). Server crashes
    2). CharGen is bugged. I've tried making two new characters is recent days, but as soon as I hit 'finish' several of my avatar's characteristics change--things like beard to no beard, or normal eyes to squinty eyes.
    3). MOBs warping in combat.
    4). Broken quests/tasks.
    5). swimming animation and control is dodgy.
    Those are issues I encounter without even really trying to break the game.
    Other than the char gen these were all issues when WoW was released. Hell Vanguard's servers are more stable than what I experienced with WoW. At least in Vanguard it doesn't take me 10 minutes to loot a piece of boar tusk. I personally disagree on #5 though.



    As far as getting the game to run well I understand some people are having problems but I can't understand why when I get around 15 FPS most of the time (neglecting cities) on my P4 2.6 with 1 gig and nvidia 6600. I play on balance with NO .ini tweaks (the drop in quality wasn't worth the FPS)



    The animations are very hit and miss. My cleric with a 2h hammer looks great IMO. Looks like it really takes effort to move that thing around. I have a bard and the dual wielding animations were mostly ok with only 1 or 2 a bit off. I tried a disciple and the unarmed animations are fine. The paladin with a 1h sword was pretty boring and I've seen dreadknights with 2h swords and yeah the animations need work, but if you don't play a game because you don't like the animations you're crazy. "I love this game but the animations suck so I won't play it." WTF??? Clearly these people don't remember the good ol' days of C64 or 286s.



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