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Bottom line - wait or get into it now?

Just looking for general "buy it" or "wait on it" opinions from people.



MMO wise I spent a looong time on EQ1, a little over a year on WoW and currently I'm loving the heck out of the LoTR online beta.



From everything I've read about Vanguard the crafting and questing is good, which I like..but with no way to try it before I buy it (and having been burned on so many MMO's) I'm a bit hesitant.
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  • OrionStarOrionStar Member Posts: 378
    Well it all comes down to if you want to be higher level and have more stuff then the people thinking of getting it in six months.  Basically be a veteran and not a noob. 
  • nauttymalunauttymalu Member Posts: 5
    Wait, its a bit of a mess right now.  Also you need a top of the line comp to be able to run this decent.
  • SabbicatSabbicat Member UncommonPosts: 290

    I enjoyed my time in Beta even with the glitches so I got the digital download. Im enjoying the game now even with the release hickups. I am not using a high end computer but a mid range one and with the game set at balanced I'm finding it playable.

    I remember when SWG launched I had to upgrade my Vid card. I remember when I bought WoW when it came out I had to by more memory and then eventually bought a new Vid card.  When it comes down to it ask yourself "Do I really want to play now or can I fill my time with something else until I think the game is ready for me to play."

     

  • BlurrBlurr Member UncommonPosts: 2,155

    3 of my friends who I gave trial keys to have already bought a copy of the game in anticipation for their trial running out, heh.

    Best suggestion is to try and find a buddy key and try the game.

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  • ZebladeZeblade Member UncommonPosts: 931
    Yep.. just wait. Trust us.. it would be better. After my 30days.. I am gone.. Going to wait a few months then come back.. but then there will be others out.. so WOOT WOOT WOOT
  • mx500toridmx500torid Member Posts: 96
    Make your own decision on the game. Get a buddy key and try it. If you dont like it nothing lost but if you do, Welcome to Telon!
  • SpungeXSpungeX Member Posts: 144

    Id say find out how your rig will run it beofre buying it. Even high-end pcs are having bad performance. Now unless you're totally rich and dont care about money id say go for it, if not, get a buddy key or wait for a trial first.

    I didn't really have a problem with bugs, just the performance in town with lots of people around was terrible even on the lowest possible settings and people around with my with high-end rigs said the same thing
    I've got a low-end PC and have been playing for a few days and the game just keeps getting more enjoyable as i go on, but im on the trial so i think i'll wait a while because the performance in town is just so bad. Out in the open in the lovely wilderness it runs fine and thats why im still playing, just in town its woeful.

    Despite the performance though, its great, really relight my passion for mmos, maybe its only short-term, but its more than any other mmo ive tried over the last 6 months has given me.

  • EthanaelEthanael Member UncommonPosts: 194
    I gave my girlfriend a trial key to try the game...



    Now she wants to buy the game before her 10 days run out...



    She is far from the hardcore crowd, but if she isn't whining about the minor bugs/glitches and overall enjoying the game, I'm sure you could do the same.



    I say get it now.



    Regards,
  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    If you dont mind a fair amount of bugs, you can buy it now. Theres also a mediocre chance that Sigil will "patch" your class so it starts playing very differently from what you used to so your experience may change. Sadly, I loved Vanguard much stronger during late beta then now. Perhaps their crazy drug-induced beta patching has taken its toll, all the programmers died out and were replaced by vampire robot  zombie batman monkeys.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by ninjaswede

    Just looking for general "buy it" or "wait on it" opinions from people.



    MMO wise I spent a looong time on EQ1, a little over a year on WoW and currently I'm loving the heck out of the LoTR online beta.



    From everything I've read about Vanguard the crafting and questing is good, which I like..but with no way to try it before I buy it (and having been burned on so many MMO's) I'm a bit hesitant.

    If you can afford it without it hurting you financially, I say get it now. It's the most ambitious video game I have ever played, period. If you really can't afford to get it without making some sacrifices AND have at least a mid range computer,  wait till they polish it up a bit more. It's still a tad rough around the edges, but it's remarkable for me, an EQ and UO nostalgicist.

    People keep saying it's like WoW and EQ mixed, which is a fairly accurate description. Personally I would call it EQ10. It's just huge in scale and epic in proportion. I find it extremely fun, others find it painful and tedious. It's old school and difficult, the art style is oil painting not cartoon, and I like it more with every passing day. Going to go play now, hope this helped.

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  • CaligulugCaligulug Member Posts: 283
    If you want to get outright robbed by a gaming company, then buy it. If not stay far away for at least 6 months maybe more. This game has more bugs than a crack house.



    Combat= broken



    Crafting = frustrating AND broken in many cases.



    Diplomacy was the only thing I was enjoying but it leads to WAY to many dead end quests, after about skill lvl 50 diplomacy is just plain NOT INPLEMENTED



    Numerous game "features" not in game yet such as caravans and fellowships.



    WAY too mANY ppl posting that they have lost all thier items, lose exp, lose lvls, lose money even. Also if you go to the vangaurd site the tech forums are LOADED with screaming ppl that cant even get into the game whilst thier 30 day "free" trial burns away.



    Maybe a playable game some day but right now you might as well just hit your self in the head with a hammer, it might be just as fun.



    Cal

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  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by ninjaswede

    Just looking for general "buy it" or "wait on it" opinions from people.



    MMO wise I spent a looong time on EQ1, a little over a year on WoW and currently I'm loving the heck out of the LoTR online beta.



    From everything I've read about Vanguard the crafting and questing is good, which I like..but with no way to try it before I buy it (and having been burned on so many MMO's) I'm a bit hesitant.



    I never look at buying MMO's as a waste.  In other words, when I bought vanguard I went in expecting to play the first month and parking it and playing something else.  I constantly cancel and resub to different games.

    I guess my point is, if you buy it now and dont like it.. unless you're one of these jaded and bitter gamers then you'll probably come back to it a few months down the road.  you havnt wasted the money on the client

    so you can try it now and spend however much it is, or wait 6 months.. the price will probably drop and you'll save 20 bux or so.   you might find Vanguard to have a lot more things to do in a much bigger world that the LoTR beta

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  • ZarraaZarraa Member Posts: 481
    While Vanguard's combat isn't to EQII, CoX's level it's far from broken...



    Make no mistake though, Vanguard isn't polished or optimized and that's fact.



    However  Vanguard is ambitious, vast & sprawling. Remember the feeling of a huge world EQ1 gave you? yep VG's got it in spades. My biggest gripe with WOW & EQII was the feeling of being hurded to the next pasture.



    You'll find none of that here, you travel, adventure and when you die it's retrieve you're corpse time. VG's a bit harsh but at the same time refreshing. There's allot less hand holding in VG but then were all vets here right?



    While I can't recommend you buy VG in it's current state it's well worth the 10 day trial.

    In six months or so it'll be marevelous but right now it's only good.



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  • treysmoothtreysmooth Member UncommonPosts: 648
    Its not perfect, not by a long shot.  Saying that I'm loving it, its nice to be back in a world that doesn't have rails.  For me the hiccups in performance are worth it to get started in the game.  I would say your rig will be the biggest determining factor in deciding if you wanna play.  For the best performance I would consider going to 2 GB ram and a graphics card from the mid to high end of the 7000 series graphics cards or up.  I run on balanced most of the time and high in the wild and get 35 on the low end and 65 plus on the high end fps.  Basically its 35 to 45 in town and 65 plus in wild.  I'll throw my specs in hope this helps you with your decision.



    Specs:  Opteron 185

                   2 gigs ddr 400 CL 2.0

                   AN8 32x mboard

                   7800gt 256



    From what I can tell processor plays into the performance but not nearly as much as the memory and video.  I expect once they optimize it for 2 plus cores on your processor it will matter more.  



    I've run into 2 bugged quest so far and i've got stuck a few times but I haven't had nearly as much trouble as others have.  If you do buy it make sure you download the directx 9.0 that was released in Oct. and the latest graphics driver or you will see problems.  Hope that helps.



    Peace
  • GweyrGweyr Member Posts: 93
    My personal plan is to wait until 2008 and look at it then.



    1. Should be a free trial by then.

    2. Lots of the bugs should be fixed by then.

    3. It will be more polished by then.

    4. The Nerf Wars should have quited down by then

    5. i'll have a good idea how often and how Sigil plans on updating the game.
  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659
    Is there an electronic version of the manual I can download before buying/downloading the game?

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  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855

    I'm going to wait a year and then check it out, ofcorse unless i'm busy with WAR or dead.

    The game was just tooo underpolished for me

  • simpleguysimpleguy Member Posts: 2

    Just my opinion, I say it depends on what kind of computer system you have.  If you have a duo core processor with lots of ram on the mother board with the newest video card , maybe even a dual video card using the new pc express socket,  then I would try and play it now.   If you dont have the current top of the line computer. I would wait 6 months to a year.

  • AspengladeAspenglade Member UncommonPosts: 48
    Being that I just cancelled my subscription, my view will be a little biased, but whose isn't?



    Personally I would say give it 2-3 months or more before purchasing the game.  Take a look at the changes and updates that have gone in and what players are saying then.
  • SharkypalSharkypal Member Posts: 1,137
    Originally posted by Caligulug

    If you want to get outright robbed by a gaming company, then buy it. If not stay far away for at least 6 months maybe more. This game has more bugs than a crack house.



    Combat= broken



    Crafting = frustrating AND broken in many cases.



    Diplomacy was the only thing I was enjoying but it leads to WAY to many dead end quests, after about skill lvl 50 diplomacy is just plain NOT INPLEMENTED



    Numerous game "features" not in game yet such as caravans and fellowships.



    WAY too mANY ppl posting that they have lost all thier items, lose exp, lose lvls, lose money even. Also if you go to the vangaurd site the tech forums are LOADED with screaming ppl that cant even get into the game whilst thier 30 day "free" trial burns away.



    Maybe a playable game some day but right now you might as well just hit your self in the head with a hammer, it might be just as fun.



    Cal
    Thats funny, Im at Diplomacy lvl 95 and it works fine. Also, the item disappearing bug is fixed!
  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by Delanor

    Is there an electronic version of the manual I can download before buying/downloading the game?



    there is a softcopy manual, not sure how I could post it for you here.

    but better yet, silky venom has a wiki that has more information then you probably would even want.  This is a lot more current and detailed then any manual

    http://wiki.silkyvenom.com/index.php/Main_Page

     

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  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Caligulug

    If you want to get outright robbed by a gaming company, then buy it. If not stay far away for at least 6 months maybe more. This game has more bugs than a crack house.



    Combat= broken



    Crafting = frustrating AND broken in many cases.



    Diplomacy was the only thing I was enjoying but it leads to WAY to many dead end quests, after about skill lvl 50 diplomacy is just plain NOT INPLEMENTED



    Numerous game "features" not in game yet such as caravans and fellowships.



    WAY too mANY ppl posting that they have lost all thier items, lose exp, lose lvls, lose money even. Also if you go to the vangaurd site the tech forums are LOADED with screaming ppl that cant even get into the game whilst thier 30 day "free" trial burns away.



    Maybe a playable game some day but right now you might as well just hit your self in the head with a hammer, it might be just as fun.



    Cal
    Thats funny, Im at Diplomacy lvl 95 and it works fine. Also, the item disappearing bug is fixed!

    ya, posts like this make you wonder if these are just folks posting on their beta 4 or 5 experiences or not.  Ive seen some folks go so far as to say theres no diplomacy in Kojan yet

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    wait for a free trial, too many issues right now

    I miss DAoC

  • AeronisAeronis Member Posts: 231
    Get it, and don't listen to the haters who quit after 30 minutes or only played beta.

    The game is packed full of content and feature rich as it is. Only a handful of features didn't make the release, and it needs a bit of polish, but otherwise the game is all there and it's fun as of right now.



    Bugs and performance issues are overhyped, or at least have been squashed as serious problems since the game went retail. I've encountered few bugs, and only one meant anything (I couldn't complete a specific quest, but moved on). Performance has improved even more drastically since the official release, and I would no longer consider it anything but a minor problem.
  • AeronisAeronis Member Posts: 231
    Originally posted by Rayx0r



    ya, posts like this make you wonder if these are just folks posting on their beta 4 or 5 experiences or not.  Ive seen some folks go so far as to say theres no diplomacy in Kojan yet


    I'm a level 75 Kojani Diplomat, and Kojan was packed full of great diplomacy quests.



    This is why you have to be careful taking advice on this forum, because you're dealing with a lot of people who have no experience beyond beta and have no clue just how many issues were radically addressed in a matter of weeks.
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