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CCP is currupt, continues to try and hide it!

They continue to ignore, downplay, and lie about everything with this recent DEV/GM abuse.

Sirmolle has recently posted real life information on Kugutsumen, telling people to call and threaten him.

This was on the official forums no less, and CCP didn't ban him!

BoB has been getting more content in their space, events in their space, and more loot from said events.

It is also strange how BoBs enemies are hit with lag, but not BoB, BoB's enemies POSs offline for no reason, and atleast one time, there was a GM in the system, GMs appearing at a BoB station before an ASCN attack, and GMs scouting systems before a BoB attack.

Not to mention BoB account shares, creating something called the cyno-net, which is against the EULA. They also knew about the BPOs a year ago and did nothing!

vbmenu_register("postmenu_2542", true); http://kugutsumen.com/

Learn more at that site.

Kugutsumen was the one who found out about the curruption, and even offered to help CCP, but they banned him because they didn't want anyone to find out.

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  • RollotamasiRollotamasi Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 898
    Such a tale of inter-stellar intrigue!

    -Currently looking forward to FFXIV

    -Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda

  • ShadusShadus Member UncommonPosts: 669

    ...and governments are covering up alien incursions, and we should wear tinfoil hats, and...

    oh sorry. Maybe you should try blaming your suck on yourself instead of on others cheating.

    If you want to talk about corruption in mmo's go see sony.

    Shadus

  • eledrianeledrian Member Posts: 10
    yup it's true. I have made a helmet, enhancing my mindreading abilities. Just tinfoil and knitting pins really... you can make one yourself AND I've discovered..... through this power, and my L33T hacking skills, that:

    1) they have made a complete parallel programming, just for BoB. They have, more or less made a game in the game, where everything is better. They have better chances finding the good stuff, they are more successfull in research, they have T5 equipment.

    2) I also discovered alot of other things !!!!! Some of them actually know where Hoffa is burried, who shot Kennedy and who was inside Bresniev.

    3) Back in Beta, and the early stages of the game, the same accusiations (<- beskyldninger på dansk ;)) where made against them, when M00 ruled EVE... (and indeed there where a bunch of badasses ). Now M0o is, more or less gone, and has been away for year(-s)

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  • JackDonkeyJackDonkey Member Posts: 383
    the times i've fought bob I never had any reason to think they were any better than the average eve alliance.  That's what makes all the accusations that much more believable.  One time I flew in RKK's gang vs PA back in the day, they were nothing special, just your average fleet calling targets and such.

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    if I were to kill a titan tomorrow and no CCP employees showed up to say grats I would petition it.
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  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810


    Originally posted by Havoc01

    vbmenu_register("postmenu_2542", true); http://kugutsumen.com/
    Learn more at that site.
    Kugutsumen was the one who found out about the curruption, and even offered to help CCP, but they banned him because they didn't want anyone to find out.


    Just a heads up for anyone planning on following the link. The guy is a self admitted hacker and does use his site to harvest IP addresses, User ID’s, and passwords. He probably also uses it to exploit browser bugs and insert trojans &keystroke loggers onto peoples systems.

    You should be very sure your system and browser are well patched, you are running an up to date firewall and that you use a userID and password that you have never used anyplace else if you register. If you can use a proxy to hide your IP address that’s even better.

    That being said, since his info on Blueprint Originals was valid there is a good chance most of the other things are as well. Keep in mind that the what the Dev admitted to was probably the only allegation that would have been traceable, so his claims that it’s the only true allegation have to be suspect at this point.

  • LasraikLasraik Member Posts: 170
    Originally posted by Shadus


    ...and governments are covering up alien incursions, and we should wear tinfoil hats, and...
    oh sorry. Maybe you should try blaming your suck on yourself instead of on others cheating.
    If you want to talk about corruption in mmo's go see sony.

     

    The Dev and CCP admitted there has been cheating going on in the game, genius.

  • Havoc01Havoc01 Member Posts: 113
    Originally posted by lomiller


     

    Originally posted by Havoc01
     
    vbmenu_register("postmenu_2542", true); http://kugutsumen.com/

    Learn more at that site.

    Kugutsumen was the one who found out about the curruption, and even offered to help CCP, but they banned him because they didn't want anyone to find out.



     

    Just a heads up for anyone planning on following the link. The guy is a self admitted hacker and does use his site to harvest IP addresses, User ID’s, and passwords. He probably also uses it to exploit browser bugs and insert trojans &keystroke loggers onto peoples systems.

    You should be very sure your system and browser are well patched, you are running an up to date firewall and that you use a userID and password that you have never used anyplace else if you register. If you can use a proxy to hide your IP address that’s even better.

    That being said, since his info on Blueprint Originals was valid there is a good chance most of the other things are as well. Keep in mind that the what the Dev admitted to was probably the only allegation that would have been traceable, so his claims that it’s the only true allegation have to be suspect at this point.



    First off, you don't know if he uses that site, he even took it down at CCp's request for a time, until he saw they were just going to continue to lie.

    Anyway, this is beyond just BoB, this is CCP and the way they handle a problem. CCP sweeps it under the rug and hopes it will go away, they have already closed the only thread that they allowed discussion of it in, and they delete any new ones.

    This is CCP, a company that allows DEVs and GMs to abuse their power and then cover it up, T20 won't get fired, he will probably be right back in the game on a new character.

    This is just a warning to all those thinking of playing EVE, don't! CCP has shown their true colors, and they aren't a good company.

  • nethervoidnethervoid Member UncommonPosts: 533

    A bunch of crying.  How original.

    What more do you want them to do?  Think, McFly.

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  • Havoc01Havoc01 Member Posts: 113
    Originally posted by kishe

    Originally posted by Havoc01



    THEY CAUGHT ME HACKING AND NOW I'M MAD AND MAKE OUTRAGEOUS RUMORS  THAT EVERYONE SEES THROUGH THE FACT OF HOW BITTER I AM!!



    PLEASE GO TO MY SITE AND LISTEN TO MY CRIES AND HELP ME DRY MY EMO TEARS!

    It isn't my site, and grow up you child. It seems you people can only use personal insults to try and get your point across.



    CCP is a wreck, they are censoring like the Chinese Communist Party, they aren't answering any questions, they are ignoring it.



    You can't do anything to stop this thread, and word getting out. Unless you flame it to the point where it gets locked due to being a flame fest, which you might just try. But I would just make another thread.



    My character is still in EVE, not banned, and no, I won't provide you with a name, because if you are a rabid flaming CCP fanboy, then you might try to report me or something.
  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    I hear CCP actually knows what happend at roswell and have decided rather than tell the world they just made  a game based on schematics of the crashed ships.

    Did you know(?):

                                    CCP has actually created real ships based on subscription money and they currently orbit the ceilings of the their main office?

    I Believe!

  • DarwynFOURDarwynFOUR Member Posts: 55
    CCP did WTC.
  • Havoc01Havoc01 Member Posts: 113
    Keep bumping this post guys, your flames only keep this at the top of the list.
  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    So those weren't planes? Those were space ships?!

    SONS OF <removed for sake of sanity on readers>!

    I declare a thumb war on you CCP! Also your affilates shall not sleep easy knowwing that I am going on forums and complaining about you , thusly serving no real results but making myself look like a goon!

    DEATH TO YOU.

     

    (It may be bumping , but it's bumping with love,hugs, and a little bit of paranoia.)

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Keep bumping this post guys, your flames only keep this at the top of the list.

    Yeah...but your original post is so pointless...hence the many pointless replies you are getting....

    Nothing you posted sheds any new light on the situation, we're all pretty well aware of what went down at CCP and most of us can completely understand why they'd try to keep it quiet (notice all the bad publicity this has drawn now that its out?)

    And I do think you are carrying this to extremes...suggesting Devs have "magic" powers to somehow lag one group of players over another....that's when you start going all Roswell and stuff...

    But, besides that.... if you don't like the game because of this... feel free to quit and play something else...lots of good stuff coming out soon....

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  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810


    Originally posted by kishe

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    THEY CAUGHT ME HACKING AND NOW I'M MAD AND MAKE OUTRAGEOUS RUMORS  THAT EVERYONE SEES THROUGH THE FACT OF HOW BITTER I AM!!

    PLEASE GO TO MY SITE AND LISTEN TO MY CRIES AND HELP ME DRY MY EMO TEARS!



    Ya it was CCP’s rocken security skills that caught him. No other dev team could have had to forethought to read in their own forums where the hacker posted all the details of what he did.

  • DarwynFOURDarwynFOUR Member Posts: 55
    Originally posted by Astropuyo


    So those weren't planes? Those were space ships?!
    SONS OF <removed for sake of sanity on readers>!
    I declare a thumb war on you CCP! Also your affilates shall not sleep easy knowwing that I am going on forums and complaining about you , thusly serving now real results but making myself look like a goon!
    DEATH TO YOU.
    According to the CIA they were some kind of technologically advanced ships that were lost in hyper space and landed on a remote deserts somewhere in Africa.The CCP got hold of these things before the goverment could and kept them well preserved for their future plans.



    I know it's all shocking but it's true, WTC was just one of many CCP plans to take over this universe(they will expand to other universes once they get their hands on ship strong enough to go through a worm hole)
  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Keep bumping this post guys, your flames only keep this at the top of the list.

    Yeah...but your original post is so pointless...hence the many pointless replies you are getting....

    Nothing you posted sheds any new light on the situation, we're all pretty well aware of what went down at CCP and most of us can completely understand why they'd try to keep it quiet (notice all the bad publicity this has drawn now that its out?)

    And I do think you are carrying this to extremes...suggesting Devs have "magic" powers to somehow lag one group of players over another....that's when you start going all Roswell and stuff...

    But, besides that.... if you don't like the game because of this... feel free to quit and play something else...lots of good stuff coming out soon....

     

    Actually it’s the first time these details have been posted on the general board of this site. If you follow EVE specific sites it’s not news, but for the larger MMO community on this site it’s the first time it’s been seen. So no, it’s most definitely not pointless. 

     

     

    One question though, do you feel betrayed by having your alliance lie to you and send you off to defend them in various internet forums only to humiliate you when the dev in question comes forward showing that everything you had been saying was a lie?  



  • nethervoidnethervoid Member UncommonPosts: 533
    Originally posted by Havoc01

    Originally posted by kishe

    Originally posted by Havoc01



    THEY CAUGHT ME HACKING AND NOW I'M MAD AND MAKE OUTRAGEOUS RUMORS  THAT EVERYONE SEES THROUGH THE FACT OF HOW BITTER I AM!!



    PLEASE GO TO MY SITE AND LISTEN TO MY CRIES AND HELP ME DRY MY EMO TEARS!

    It isn't my site, and grow up you child. It seems you people can only use personal insults to try and get your point across.



    CCP is a wreck, they are censoring like the Chinese Communist Party, they aren't answering any questions, they are ignoring it.



    You can't do anything to stop this thread, and word getting out. Unless you flame it to the point where it gets locked due to being a flame fest, which you might just try. But I would just make another thread.



    My character is still in EVE, not banned, and no, I won't provide you with a name, because if you are a rabid flaming CCP fanboy, then you might try to report me or something.

    It's people like you who, first, abuse the free speech allowed at official forums, then bitch because your abuse is halted.  You screw it up for the rest of us, sane people.  Maybe the topic is a dead horse on their forums?  Maybe?

    If you're so pissed, cancel your account!

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  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178
    Originally posted by DarwynFOUR

    Originally posted by Astropuyo


    So those weren't planes? Those were space ships?!
    SONS OF <removed for sake of sanity on readers>!
    I declare a thumb war on you CCP! Also your affilates shall not sleep easy knowwing that I am going on forums and complaining about you , thusly serving now real results but making myself look like a goon!
    DEATH TO YOU.
    According to the CIA they were some kind of technologically advanced ships that were lost in hyper space and landed on a remote deserts somewhere in Africa.The CCP got hold of these things before the goverment could and kept them well preserved for their future plans.



    I know it's all shocking but it's true, WTC was just one of many CCP plans to take over this universe(they will expand to other universes once they get their hands on ship strong enough to go through a worm hole)



    OMG .

     

    Guys screw this little game issue, we have bigger fish to box and/or slay with our Mighty Forum Opinions of Mightiness +6 .

                                                                                                                                                                           100-3000000 DPS

    We have to let the world (of warcraft) know that CCP is the ULTIMATE EVIL and we must fight this ULTIMATE EVIL with even more posts! If our posts can't save the world who can?! Who I ask, who can... Help us Obi Wan..

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    I'm sure that if you found out that the company running your favourite MMO had been helping your enemys crap on you for the last six months and would've continued quite happily, you'd be a little peeved. I know I am.

    I'm already a card carrying member of the SOE haters club, I left SWG for EVE seems I may be applying for membership to a new haters club in the future :(

    I am the original fallen fanbois.

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    CS Lewis

  • AstropuyoAstropuyo Member RarePosts: 2,178

    I'd be peeved, but I wouldn't go spouting doom on forums full of folks who probally didn't care.

    I never did with SWG, because I knew nobody cared.

  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    I just do not get it, as at least some of all this seems true, what is the point?

    If you have total control over the software AND hardware what possible joy can you get from accomplishing anything by abusing that power?

    I mean its like buying a brand new computer game and as soon as you have installed it bring down the console and

    /map final_figth.map

    /god

    Killing the thing and shelving the game.

    If not a waste of time at lest a waste of money, and you have accomplished nothing aside from cheating yourself on a good 50 hours of fun and enjoyment.

    Had he at least conjured up things and ebayed them there would have been a point, but this?

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    I wonder if you honestly even believe what you type, or if you live in a made up world of facts.
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  • ork147ork147 Member Posts: 19
    Originally posted by DarwynFOUR



    According to the CIA they were some kind of technologically advanced ships that were lost in hyper space and landed on a remote deserts somewhere in Africa.The CCP got hold of these things before the goverment could and kept them well preserved for their future plans.



    I know it's all shocking but it's true, WTC was just one of many CCP plans to take over this universe(they will expand to other universes once they get their hands on ship strong enough to go through a worm hole)
    Thats just stargate.
  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by Umbrood


    I just do not get it, as at least some of all this seems true, what is the point?
    If you have total control over the software AND hardware what possible joy can you get from accomplishing anything by abusing that power?
    I mean its like buying a brand new computer game and as soon as you have installed it bring down the console and
    /map final_figth.map
    /god
    Killing the thing and shelving the game.
    If not a waste of time at lest a waste of money, and you have accomplished nothing aside from cheating yourself on a good 50 hours of fun and enjoyment.
    Had he at least conjured up things and ebayed them there would have been a point, but this?



    The reason people are still complaining is that many of the DEVs accomplices are going unpunished despite the fact they've broken the EULA on many occasions. Also although harrassing another player in real life is not in breach of the EULA one of BoBs leaders has been calling the hackers work place and trying to get him fired. Also he's posted alot of the hackers real life details on an official EVE website which is flagarantly in breach of the EULA, however he still goes unpunished as his alliances mates who were in cahouts with the DEV. Also the DEV hasn't been fired, many players feel that the only proper way to deal with it is to fire him and CCP agree that in cases like this the employee must be fired ........ except with this DEV. Also it's still rather cloudy as to what the DEVs punishment was, as it seems from what they say he wasn't really punished nor were his ill gotten gains taken away from his alliance mates who were in on the game.

    Most of the guys posting the joke CCP conspiracy theories are rabid fanbois that don't like having their (and my) favourite MMO company draged through the mud. CCP brought this upon themselves through their own complacency and apathy in dealing with a serious breach of both their own code of conduct for employees and the EULA by BoB members. The rabid fanbois doesn't want to say it's not true he just doesn't like CCPs name being stained more than he believes it should. Although he'd like other gamers less well informed to believe it's just a conspiracy.

    I can just see the CCP CEO standing outside their headquarters surrounded by cheering rabid fanbois and staring the press in the face and saying sincerely "I am not a crook!".

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • LasraikLasraik Member Posts: 170
    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by Umbrood


    I just do not get it, as at least some of all this seems true, what is the point?
    If you have total control over the software AND hardware what possible joy can you get from accomplishing anything by abusing that power?
    I mean its like buying a brand new computer game and as soon as you have installed it bring down the console and
    /map final_figth.map
    /god
    Killing the thing and shelving the game.
    If not a waste of time at lest a waste of money, and you have accomplished nothing aside from cheating yourself on a good 50 hours of fun and enjoyment.
    Had he at least conjured up things and ebayed them there would have been a point, but this?



    The reason people are still complaining is that many of the DEVs accomplices are going unpunished despite the fact they've broken the EULA on many occasions. Also although harrassing another player in real life is not in breach of the EULA one of BoBs leaders has been calling the hackers work place and trying to get him fired. Also he's posted alot of the hackers real life details on an official EVE website which is flagarantly in breach of the EULA, however he still goes unpunished as his alliances mates who were in cahouts with the DEV. Also the DEV hasn't been fired, many players feel that the only proper way to deal with it is to fire him and CCP agree that in cases like this the employee must be fired ........ except with this DEV. Also it's still rather cloudy as to what the DEVs punishment was, as it seems from what they say he wasn't really punished nor were his ill gotten gains taken away from his alliance mates who were in on the game.

    Most of the guys posting the joke CCP conspiracy theories are rabid fanbois that don't like having their (and my) favourite MMO company draged through the mud. CCP brought this upon themselves through their own complacency and apathy in dealing with a serious breach of both their own code of conduct for employees and the EULA by BoB members. The rabid fanbois doesn't want to say it's not true he just doesn't like CCPs name being stained more than he believes it should. Although he'd like other gamers less well informed to believe it's just a conspiracy.

    I can just see the CCP CEO standing outside their headquarters surrounded by cheering rabid fanbois and staring the press in the face and saying sincerely "I am not a crook!".

     

    Well said.  This is why many players are still upset.  It's an obvious bias.

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