As I posted in another thread, from my perspective the basic "Vision" was flawed from the get go. Brad designed a game to appeal to the "core" gamer, rather than the masses. In this design he spread the player population out over a large world, with numerous starting areas, over numerous servers, and established 60% group content, with an inadequate "lfg" mechanic. At least now they partially recognize their mistake and have added transporters to relieve the tedium of traveling for a couple of hours real time to join up with your friends. If you join this game at inception, and are one of the "core" gamers that is having fun, you have formed your guild, and identified your group mates. If you join this game in 6 months there is no concentration point for new players, you will be spread over a large world, in numerous starting areas, and may determine that finding a group for every gaming session is just too tedious. The growth potential for this game is seriously handicaped by the developer's concepts. As the fanbois have said, this game does not hold your hand, it is hard, go back to WOW noob. Though we may hate to hear it each and every time, they are correct, the game is designed for core players that know each other. Casuals without friends are in a diificult position, as they must commit exhorbitant amounts of time to develope the relationships necessary to realize the enjoyable aspects of this game. Once again, the fanbois are right, partially because of the world design, and the grouping requirements, this game is not casual friendly. Sorry, but that's the way I see it. The words better to identify the players YOU describe that play Vanguard are sociopathic MMO players. The game is not hard and no you are not a "hardcore" player just because you didn't play WoW. Also the game is very casual friendly as far as i have seen, thing is that a good deal of the population suffer from the "guildy" syndrome. You know kinda like "white people only" thing only in much broader scope.
A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
Originally posted by Stevon Originally posted by Shadrak Its been posted that a new LFG tool will be in the next big update. it will probably have some sort of autogrouping feature and they are adding teleporters to strategic locations to facilitate groups getting together. People LFG all the time but they never want to start the group, to be the leader, to send the invites. The new tool should help.
LFG tools only work if there are people playing and if those are actually willing to risk grouping.
Vanguard has an obvious lack of both and that lack increases daily as people leave the miserable mess of a game.
Depends where and when your LFG, during the week its difficult, never any issue at the weekend, so many groups around.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS) Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
You mind sharing what lvl you felt that you had to group? For me it was lvl 16-20, it's at those lvl's I see most quit too. I couldn't solo anymore. Made me quit, the servers weren't populated enough to group any longer (european).
well....since the start.
A GREAT Majority of the quests are group centered. That's a fact and not a gamer opinion.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
That's true to some extent. You can certainly solo past lvl 13 unlike FFXI where you MUST group but at the same time you must group if you wish to follow the quest lines.
Sure, you can solo all the way to lvl 50, but you'll have to do it by farming mobs and missing well over 75% of the games entire quest system.
So, your comment is true but has a lot of hidden clauses behind it.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Yep, SOE is at the top the the don't buy list, I gave them a month before buying Vanguard to make sure the bugs were out of it. I was too optimistic....won't happen again with this company.
Fanbois can fall on their swords all they want but it won't change a thing with SOE.
R
btw;
Concerning Sony's PS3, recently they had a huge impressive looking mobile truck setup at a local computer store pedaling their wares.....when I went into the store it was empty of people when I came out the same, this on a saturday afternoon and the store was packed, no one is interested in the PS3....incredible story of failure on their part.
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A friend is not him who provides support during your failures.A friend is the one that cheers you during your successes.
Vanguard has an obvious lack of both and that lack increases daily as people leave the miserable mess of a game.
Depends where and when your LFG, during the week its difficult, never any issue at the weekend, so many groups around.
Now playing: VG (after a long break from MMORPGS)
Played for more than a month: Darkfall online, Vanguard SOH, Everquest, Horizons, WoW, SWG, Everquest II, Eve
well....since the start.
A GREAT Majority of the quests are group centered. That's a fact and not a gamer opinion.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
That's true to some extent. You can certainly solo past lvl 13 unlike FFXI where you MUST group but at the same time you must group if you wish to follow the quest lines.
Sure, you can solo all the way to lvl 50, but you'll have to do it by farming mobs and missing well over 75% of the games entire quest system.
So, your comment is true but has a lot of hidden clauses behind it.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
However, FFXI was fun. At least I had other things I could do while LFG, and there were several un-neccesary yet enjoyable features readily available.
Waiting for something fresh to arrive on the MMO scene...
Yep, SOE is at the top the the don't buy list, I gave them a month before buying Vanguard to make sure the bugs were out of it. I was too optimistic....won't happen again with this company.
Fanbois can fall on their swords all they want but it won't change a thing with SOE.
R
btw;
Concerning Sony's PS3, recently they had a huge impressive looking mobile truck setup at a local computer store pedaling their wares.....when I went into the store it was empty of people when I came out the same, this on a saturday afternoon and the store was packed, no one is interested in the PS3....incredible story of failure on their part.