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Banned Gammers and unpaid play time.

I just wondered what people's thoughts are about game companies that ban you from playing MMORPG's and don't repay the money you have payed forunplayed  game time.

NCSOFT being a prime example.

Personally, I think they shouldn't keep the gamers money!!!

If you look at it like this, they ban 10'000 people with 2 months of play time left at 8.99 pounds a month, that's 20'000 gaming months lost and about 179,900 pounds kept in revenue..

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  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    Dont use hacks and cheats and you wont get banned... its easy.



    Cheats and hackers get off lightly IMHO, i'd love to see a global Database which lists the address and CC detials of any 1 who hacks and cheats in an MMO, that way when they try to sign up to another MMO they cant... ofc this wont happen but its an idea.



    If your banned from diriving for drinking or whatever do you expect the remainder of your roadtax to be refunded?

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  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16

    You can raclaim roadtax, you just take the tax disk back.

    So, if your falsley accused of cheating and are banned, then thats ok?

    It doesn't matter what the circumstances are. Look at the banking sector.. people are reclaiming unfair charges and it's going to spread.

    The fact is that the gaming companies have retained money for unpayed play time.

    And why do the big companies that sell in game currency get away with ????

  • FireburstFireburst Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Originally posted by grantboy

    You can raclaim roadtax...
    What has that got to do with gaming? If you get banned from a MMORPG it means you got caught breaking the rules. If you break the rules whilst driving, they don't prevent the car from driving but if it is sever enough they prevent YOU from driving which isn't connected to car tax.
  • WakunahumWakunahum Member Posts: 15
    You pay for a 2 hour movie and during the first 15 minutes you get kicked out for being loud and breaking theature rules.



    No they aren't going to refund you.



    More than likely when you agreed to the terms of service you agreed to let them keep your money if they ban you.
  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16

    If your banned from diriving for drinking or whatever do you expect the remainder of your roadtax to be refunded?

    There's a big difference between screaming and shouting at a move and getting banned from an MMORPG.

    And I can't believe you said it was ok for a company to keep your money. If a drinks machine doesn't give you you'r drink do you just walk off?

     

    post me your money please

  • FireburstFireburst Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Originally posted by grantboy


    If your banned from diriving for drinking or whatever do you expect the remainder of your roadtax to be refunded?
    There's a big difference between screaming and shouting at a move and getting banned from an MMORPG.
    Roadtax is attached to the car, not the driver. If you get banned for drink driving do you expect to keep you licence?
  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16
    Upto a certain number of bans, yes you do keep your licence. Your just not allowed to drive for a while.
  • FireburstFireburst Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Originally posted by grantboy

    Upto a certain number of bans, yes you do keep your licence. Your just not allowed to drive for a while.
    If your banned you don't have a licence which means you cannoot drive any car. At least if you are banned from a MMORPG you are allowed to go play other MMORPG's.



    As far as I'm concerned, anyone who plays an MMORPG should read the rules. If they are stupid enough to break the rules then they deserve to be banned and lose the money (which would be stated in the rules).
  • JelloB2000JelloB2000 Member CommonPosts: 1,848


    Originally posted by grantboy
    I just wondered what people's thoughts are about game companies that ban you from playing MMORPG's and don't repay the money you have payed forunplayed game time.
    NCSOFT being a prime example.
    Personally, I think they shouldn't keep the gamers money!!!(...)

    Read the text before clicking "I agree" (on start-up/installing game), conditions are stated there (short version: they can stop their service at any time for any reason, all mmorpg:s have this).
  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16

    Fireburst, when you are banned and you have a license it can be for an x number of years and a couple of points on your license, afterwhich you can drive again. If you have more than 12 points (i think) on your license then you have you license taken away.

     

  • FireburstFireburst Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Originally posted by grantboy


    Fireburst, when you are banned and you have a license it can be for an x number of years and a couple of points on your license, afterwhich you can drive again. If you have more than 12 points (i think) on your license then you have you license taken away.
     
    When you are banned it means your licence has been taken off of you. When points are added to a licence it doesn't mean you are banned, it means you have had points added, unless the points take you over the 12 point threshold.



    Drink driving is different. You get automatically banned, period (at least in the UK).
  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350
    Originally posted by grantboy


    I just wondered what people's thoughts are about game companies that ban you from playing MMORPG's and don't repay the money you have payed forunplayed  game time.
    NCSOFT being a prime example.
    Personally, I think they shouldn't keep the gamers money!!!
    If you look at it like this, they ban 10'000 people with 2 months of play time left at 8.99 pounds a month, that's 20'000 gaming months lost and about 179,900 pounds kept in revenue..

     

    Your choice to waste your money paying for a product then abuse it so you are banned from using it. They never told you to break every rule in the book, they never tried to get you banned. You paid for it.. then decided you wanted to risk your money by breaking the rules... Suit yourself, I hope it was the last of your allowance.

    "This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
    It should be thrown with great force"

  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16

    So, It's ok for people to loose out on money if they are banned from gaming.

    In the UK people are charged so much for services they don't receive and it's a shame.

    Sign the petition against the UK being UNDERcharged by Microsoft for Vista

    http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/VistaUndercharged/

    p.s. I hate MicroSoft, they have ripped of so many people/companies.

    How much was your copy of Windows.

    You've never copied a game.

    You've bought every single album you own

    The arguement here was for falsley accused.

    dont fill in this poll please, use the one on the front page.... my fault

  • SWGLoverSWGLover Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 539

    I'm glad to see them banned.

     

    Consider the unused part of a banned subscription as a tax on stupidity.

     

     

     

  • nomadiannomadian Member Posts: 3,490

    Hmm maybe, if you paid something like a 6 month subscription and got banned. It isn't really fair just because you opted for a longer subscription over a shorter subscription that you get punished for that. Though, it's a difficult situation as person who may have bought 6 months and not used the other 1 month won't likely get a refund and will instead perhaps stay as a credit on the account which obviously a banned person can't use.

  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16

    I agree, and the what aout the developers of the software used in the process of botting?

    This is interesting, keep your thoughts coming in and thanks  to all involved.

     I got banned BUT I PLAYED EVEYDAY.... FOR 2 YEARS...............

    I was in a clan and was active and even petitiond regularly.

  • grantboygrantboy Member Posts: 16

    Oh and as for geting kicked out of a cinema nd not getting your money back... If you make enough fuss you can get it back.

    In the UK you are entitled to get your money back for services/time/products unused.

  • WakunahumWakunahum Member Posts: 15
    Originally posted by grantboy


    Oh and as for geting kicked out of a cinema nd not getting your money back... If you make enough fuss you can get it back.
    In the UK you are entitled to get your money back for services/time/products unused.
    Well if you have some sort of governmental protection allowing you to get your money back, why don't you use that same protection and get the money back from whatever game you have been banned from?
  • methulahmethulah Member Posts: 236
    Originally posted by grantboy


    Oh and as for geting kicked out of a cinema nd not getting your money back... If you make enough fuss you can get it back.
    In the UK you are entitled to get your money back for services/time/products unused.
    Try making a fuss then, see what they do. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you're disrupting the game for everyone else for them to give back money you've already given them.
  • SoraellionSoraellion Member UncommonPosts: 558

    I voted no;

    You got banned for a REASON, tough luck on you.

  • wjrasmussenwjrasmussen Member Posts: 1,493
    Originally posted by Soraellion


    I voted no;
    You got banned for a REASON, tough luck on you.
  • Bane82Bane82 Member UncommonPosts: 1,242
    Ha! poor little cheat got banned and now he wants to grief in the forums. Tough it out champ. Here's a beer to make you feel better lol
  • RhaegorRhaegor Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by cupertino

    Dont use hacks and cheats and you wont get banned... its easy.



    Cheats and hackers get off lightly IMHO, i'd love to see a global Database which lists the address and CC detials of any 1 who hacks and cheats in an MMO, that way when they try to sign up to another MMO they cant... ofc this wont happen but its an idea.



    If your banned from diriving for drinking or whatever do you expect the remainder of your roadtax to be refunded?
    I got banned for telling someone in a rival guild "I hope you die in a hurricane." shortly after hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.  Yes, I think you should be refunded for the game and any unplayed time.
  • RonnyRulzRonnyRulz Member Posts: 479

    "If a drinks machine doesn't give you you'r drink do you just walk off?"

    Yes, most people do.

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  • SoraellionSoraellion Member UncommonPosts: 558
    Originally posted by Rhaegor

    Originally posted by cupertino

    Dont use hacks and cheats and you wont get banned... its easy.



    Cheats and hackers get off lightly IMHO, i'd love to see a global Database which lists the address and CC detials of any 1 who hacks and cheats in an MMO, that way when they try to sign up to another MMO they cant... ofc this wont happen but its an idea.



    If your banned from diriving for drinking or whatever do you expect the remainder of your roadtax to be refunded?
    I got banned for telling someone in a rival guild "I hope you die in a hurricane." shortly after hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.  Yes, I think you should be refunded for the game and any unplayed time.

    11 yearolds should be forbidden to play online games, have an opinion and a means to voice that opinion.
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