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  • blah40000blah40000 Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by nakedone


     

    Originally posted by MadAce


    Originally posted by mithrandir72


    Originally posted by nakedone
     





    Originally posted by mithrandir72

    ooo, this looks like fun.

    What is cliche?

    What is Bullshit?

    What is Punctuation? And why, did someone tell me that way? Why should I think for myself? What is a drone?

     



     

    You missed out on the intent. checkout his post starting on page 1, then all 3 of us can play together.

     


    Oh goody, I haven't had anyone play with me since first grade.

    I see more of your intent/point more clearly, but I wasn't really aiming at a real point. Wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. Ya'll can get back to ripping each other's political opinions apart now, I'll find someone else to play with.



    I don't care about his political opinion.

    And I could careless what a kid in a bastard insugnificant Euroupean Country has to say about American Government either.



    okay people stop thier you both now hate eachother leave it at that we don't want to be banned do we no i didn't think so.
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by nakedone


     

    Originally posted by MadAce


    Originally posted by mithrandir72


    Originally posted by nakedone
     





    Originally posted by mithrandir72

    ooo, this looks like fun.

    What is cliche?

    What is Bullshit?

    What is Punctuation? And why, did someone tell me that way? Why should I think for myself? What is a drone?

     



     

    You missed out on the intent. checkout his post starting on page 1, then all 3 of us can play together.

     


    Oh goody, I haven't had anyone play with me since first grade.

    I see more of your intent/point more clearly, but I wasn't really aiming at a real point. Wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. Ya'll can get back to ripping each other's political opinions apart now, I'll find someone else to play with.



    I don't care about his political opinion.

    And I could careless what a kid in a bastard insugnificant Euroupean Country has to say about American Government either.

    Ah. Got you to attack me first. You're supposed to be a puppet of the err... New World Order (who are they according to you? Free Masons? Islamists? Jews? Elvis Impersonators?), not mine.

  • Originally posted by blah40000
    Originally posted by nakedone  

    Originally posted by mithrandir72

    Originally posted by nakedone
     Originally posted by MadAce
    Originally posted by nakedone
     
     
     

    Originally posted by blah40000
    Originally posted by MadAce
    Originally posted by Kaiaphas
    If I took everything that you just said MadAce applied it to socialism, the evolution of parlimentary systems (systems American political philosophy would suggest are violations of separations of powers and deliberately deminish the roll democracy plays as an effect), and the EU/China how would you respond?
     
    That you're probably right.
    Only that China has a more conventional and deliberate way of mass control than the US has. With a ministry of propaganda (in stead of the US having corporate controlled media) and such.
    And the EU doesn't do an effort to control its people because the EU doesn't give a fuck and doesn't HAVE to give a fuck. It does fine without controlling or manipulating its masses with anything other than fairly objective education.
     
     
     



    no offence (even though you offended me and called me retarded about 15 times) but your saying comunism works? where everyone gets the same paycheck you get arrested and accused of treason for questioning the government on little things that mean nothing.
    while americas government does lie and sucks still do you want to got to colledge and many other training processes to design buildings and get paid the same as your brother who is the janitor at the latest building you just build? in america you the more you work the more you get. so what our government lies takes away our freedom simply leave even though the new world order is taking effect in a decade or so in wich everything is the same place one world as a country one super store one government  one liscense one currency one brand name no bargain prices no freedom.
    so please everyone save your money buy a large island make it a country delvelope the w bomb and destroy this planet before it kills the universe.
     
     
     



    Ah, finally. Someone with an actual response.
    And my question is, are people going to accept that or not?
     
     
     


    That "actual repsonse" contained nothing but clichés and bullcrap.One without punctuation if I might add.



     
    What is telling you to think that what he said was a cliche?
    Why makes you believe it's bullcrap?
    Why would he have to use punctuation? Because someone told you it has to be that way. Think for yourself, stop following the rules set for you by other people. There's no reason to be a drone.
     







    okay in response to madace first he is just flaming me because he doesn't like the way i think and has flamed and called me retarded in every thread i start and/or post in.

    now naked one i would answer that question but please put in quotes the part that the question is aimed at because i'm confused.

    and lastly we should make a new thread for us to discuss this little sidetrack as to avoid people going through the previous crap posts wich i completely skipped so lets hit the restart button and load the last checkpoint i nominate nakedone to make it and we should all pick the name.


    I think that was the plan all along.

    But I basically agreed with you and asked if you think we are being groomed to accept what you described.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by blah40000

    Originally posted by nakedone


     

    Originally posted by MadAce


    Originally posted by mithrandir72


    Originally posted by nakedone
     





    Originally posted by mithrandir72

    ooo, this looks like fun.

    What is cliche?

    What is Bullshit?

    What is Punctuation? And why, did someone tell me that way? Why should I think for myself? What is a drone?

     



     

    You missed out on the intent. checkout his post starting on page 1, then all 3 of us can play together.

     


    Oh goody, I haven't had anyone play with me since first grade.

    I see more of your intent/point more clearly, but I wasn't really aiming at a real point. Wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. Ya'll can get back to ripping each other's political opinions apart now, I'll find someone else to play with.



    I don't care about his political opinion.

    And I could careless what a kid in a bastard insugnificant Euroupean Country has to say about American Government either.



    okay people stop thier you both now hate eachother leave it at that we don't want to be banned do we no i didn't think so. I don't hate him. Contrary to some I consider myself more than to make opinions about people whom I don't know.

    Hell, I consider myself more than to form opinions about people.
  • blah40000blah40000 Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by nakedone


     

    Originally posted by blah40000


    Originally posted by nakedone
     





    Originally posted by mithrandir72




    Originally posted by nakedone

     

     

    Originally posted by MadAce



    Originally posted by nakedone

     

     

     





    Originally posted by blah40000

     



    Originally posted by MadAce

     



    Originally posted by Kaiaphas

    If I took everything that you just said MadAce applied it to socialism, the evolution of parlimentary systems (systems American political philosophy would suggest are violations of separations of powers and deliberately deminish the roll democracy plays as an effect), and the EU/China how would you respond?

     

     



    That you're probably right.

    Only that China has a more conventional and deliberate way of mass control than the US has. With a ministry of propaganda (in stead of the US having corporate controlled media) and such.

    And the EU doesn't do an effort to control its people because the EU doesn't give a fuck and doesn't HAVE to give a fuck. It does fine without controlling or manipulating its masses with anything other than fairly objective education.

     

     

     

     





    no offence (even though you offended me and called me retarded about 15 times) but your saying comunism works? where everyone gets the same paycheck you get arrested and accused of treason for questioning the government on little things that mean nothing.

    while americas government does lie and sucks still do you want to got to colledge and many other training processes to design buildings and get paid the same as your brother who is the janitor at the latest building you just build? in america you the more you work the more you get. so what our government lies takes away our freedom simply leave even though the new world order is taking effect in a decade or so in wich everything is the same place one world as a country one super store one government  one liscense one currency one brand name no bargain prices no freedom.

    so please everyone save your money buy a large island make it a country delvelope the w bomb and destroy this planet before it kills the universe.

     

     

     

     





    Ah, finally. Someone with an actual response.

    And my question is, are people going to accept that or not?

     

     

     

     



    That "actual repsonse" contained nothing but clichés and bullcrap.One without punctuation if I might add.

     





     

    What is telling you to think that what he said was a cliche?

    Why makes you believe it's bullcrap?

    Why would he have to use punctuation? Because someone told you it has to be that way. Think for yourself, stop following the rules set for you by other people. There's no reason to be a drone.

     

     











    okay in response to madace first he is just flaming me because he doesn't like the way i think and has flamed and called me retarded in every thread i start and/or post in.

    now naked one i would answer that question but please put in quotes the part that the question is aimed at because i'm confused.

    and lastly we should make a new thread for us to discuss this little sidetrack as to avoid people going through the previous crap posts wich i completely skipped so lets hit the restart button and load the last checkpoint i nominate nakedone to make it and we should all pick the name.


    I think that was the plan all along.

    But I basically agreed with you and asked if you think we are being groomed to accept what you described.



    ummm yeah i think (still confused) well groomed i wouldn't say groomed but being like cows in the line at the slaughter house not knowing whats happening while just going with it without a thought yeah
  • Ha, that's a good way to sum it up.

  • blah40000blah40000 Member Posts: 138
    look at my new avatar accompanied by the new sig for it
  • Hehe, I like these threads!



    Ok...the VeriChip identification system is now in more than 650 hospitals across the US and that number is growing rapidly. The former Secretary of Health and Human Services, Tommy Thompson, has been working hard to sell this technology to the American sheeple. The up side of this technology is that doors will open automatically for you as you approach! Wow, nice!! The down side is that the government will be able to monitor your every move and, since this technology could easily replace credit and debit cards and enable a cashless society, they could shut down your life with the touch of a button! Welcome to the machine.



    Everyone should know what Fascism is and how to spot a fascist...it's easy, they're the ones French kissing the flag!



    <snip> ( I'll have to cut it off there...don't want to get banned again.)









  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Two questions.



    Why would "the government" want to know where you are?

    Why would "the government" spend trillions on mind control software when they can control your mind with billions using old fasioned marketing?
  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    ok so from my viewpoint....

    The US is the epitomy of the aging former world power

    The government is being heavily influenced by japan, china, and the EU

    George Bush is the worst thing ever to happen to the country, ever

    The Bush administration planned and oversaw 911 (a few months prior bush recieved a memo stating that the only way to unite the country would be a national tragedy)

    The most important thing we need to worry about right now is global warming

    Attacking/nuking iran would result in the end of human civilization (start of a nuke war)

    we are becoming a glutonous, egotistical, and jaded society

    india and china will be the next world powers

    unless a strong leader takes over the US will be about as important as argentina in 50 years

    seperation of church and state is a complete joke in the US (think gay marriage and teaching evolution, neither of which would be an issue if seperation of church and state was present)

    The bush administration was caught wire tapping (illegal) the first step towards the loss of our freedom of speech

    people are being held in guantanamo bay and other secret prisons withought being charged with a crime

  • viadiviadi Member Posts: 816
    I don’t think its just the US infact here in the UK were are already the most spied on nation in the world we have more CCTV than any other nation (per head that is) and we have just passed a law like one passed in the US giving our leader total powers at any point. It never even made it into the news here and only made it into 3 news papers and as side notes in all 3

     

    I'm not a massive conspiracy theorist but some thing is wrong with the UK and US right now. Maybe it’s something simple I don’t know but I see things happening and everyone seems to miss connecting the dots.









    EDIT: ok this edit kinda provs my point





    A few weeks ago I went out after work for some drinks and a bit of alone time out of the house I had 5 drinks and was over the drink drive limit so I went to get a taxi home and left my car in the works car park I got something to eat in the taxi cab office (they serve kebabs too for the "drunks") I put my mobile (cell) phone on the counter while I got my cash out to pay and the guys stole my phone so I left the place and went to the local police station and told them what happened.

     

    at the police station I told the officer what happened and he said there is nothing they can do I asked why and he said they don’t investigate "small" crimes like some one steeling a mobile if it were not violent then they would look into it I told the officer the phone would still be in the building and he looked at me as if to say just piss off so I sat in the lobby and told him I'm not going anywhere untill I see your going to investigate the crime committed against me I sat there for 40 mins when another officer came and arrested me they kept me in the cells over night and tried to give me an on the spot fixed penalty fine of £80 or go to court I choose to go to court (at the time I was going to fight it)

     

    In court I was forced to fill out a statement of means form (that’s all my income etc form) and told to just plead guilty as I would never win the case.

     

    This has given me a total lack of confidence in the justice system in the UK and I'm going to find a quite safe country to live in and move there A.S.A.P



    Tin Foil hats dont work.. its all a conspiracy

  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050
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  • blah40000blah40000 Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by modjoe86

    So a guy with an upside down American flag isn't banned? Ok mods, keep up the shitty work.
    1. im surprised you haven't been banned yet.



    2. its just an avatar mine is of the real jfk shooter.



    3. this thread is not aboot flaming others for retarded reasons.
  • SisterDominoSisterDomino Member Posts: 56
    Originally posted by blah40000

    Originally posted by modjoe86

    So a guy with an upside down American flag isn't banned? Ok mods, keep up the shitty work.
    1. im surprised you haven't been banned yet.



    2. its just an avatar mine is of the real jfk shooter.



    3. this thread is not aboot flaming others for retarded reasons.

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  • modjoe86modjoe86 Member UncommonPosts: 4,050
    Originally posted by blah40000

    Originally posted by modjoe86

    So a guy with an upside down American flag isn't banned? Ok mods, keep up the shitty work.
    1. im surprised you haven't been banned yet.



    2. its just an avatar mine is of the real jfk shooter.



    3. this thread is not aboot flaming others for retarded reasons. Why does everyone think I deserve a ban?
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  • Originally posted by MadAce

    Two questions. I'll take a stab at them...



    Why would "the government" want to know where you are? The most obvious reason is to protect themselves...and their corporate friends.  If they know where you are at all times - real time GPS - then they know who you're hanging around with and where you're shopping and what you're buying, etc., etc...



    So...let's say that I'm Big Brother and you're citizen 24680IL (your chip #) and I see that you are at the same location as citizen 13579IL, a known liberal terrorist. I  dispatch agents to your location to surreptitiously gather information about your conversation with citizen 13579IL. When you leave that location our agents follow you to a business that rents Ryder trucks; your conversation with the rental agent, citizen 12345IL, is monitored and he is placed on the watch list along with you and citizen 13579IL.



    Meanwhile, citizen 13579IL and another individual, citizen 09876IL, a local farming technician, meet and travel together to a farm supply company where they purchase 9,000 pounds of Anhydrous Ammonia (a common fertilizer). Now, because I know that citizen 13579IL met with another individual, citizen 12457IL, and that citizen 12457IL purchased a 1,000 gallons of industrial fuel oil 3 weeks earlier, I can rightly deduce that a very powerful truck-bomb is in the works.



    I have all the information I need; I order the arrest of everyone involved and all are picked up...you and your liberal terrorist buddies disappear without a trace (As Big Brother I don't have to notify anyone of your whereabouts...and I can do whatever I want with you, for as long as I want!), which brings me to the second reason why government officials would want to have total control over you: To play God!



    "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Henry Kissinger





    Why would "the government" spend trillions on mind control software when they can control your mind with billions using old fasioned marketing? I don't know what you're referring to here but one of the interesting things that has emerged from our investigations into the events surrounding 9/11 is the fact that a software product called PROMIS is used in almost all government agencies...including the FAA and NORAD. I'll let the reader investigate this and draw their own conclusions. A good place to start is with a company named P-TECH...Go here and watch a couple of excellent videos concerning P-TECH, PROMIS and how the CIA uses this powerful spyware...they're the ones entitled 'Indira Singh Sibel's letter" and 'Indira Singh and Ruppert Q&A'.

    EDIT: I forgot to mention the IAO...a DARPA project which began it's life in 2003 as the Total Information Awareness (TIA) Program.



    Basically, the goal of the Information Awareness Office is to gather all available information and develop a dossier on every man, woman, and child on earth!
  • blah40000blah40000 Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by poopypants

    Originally posted by MadAce

    Two questions. I'll take a stab at them...



    Why would "the government" want to know where you are? The most obvious reason is to protect themselves...and their corporate friends.  If they know where you are at all times - real time GPS - then they know who you're hanging around with and where you're shopping and what you're buying, etc., etc...



    So...let's say that I'm Big Brother and you're citizen 24680IL (your chip #) and I see that you are at the same location as citizen 13579IL, a known liberal terrorist. I  dispatch agents to your location to surreptitiously gather information about your conversation with citizen 13579IL. When you leave that location our agents follow you to a business that rents Ryder trucks; your conversation with the rental agent, citizen 12345IL, is monitored and he is placed on the watch list along with you and citizen 13579IL.



    Meanwhile, citizen 13579IL and another individual, citizen 09876IL, a local farming technician, meet and travel together to a farm supply company where they purchase 9,000 pounds of Anhydrous Ammonia (a common fertilizer). Now, because I know that citizen 13579IL met with another individual, citizen 12457IL, and that citizen 12457IL purchased a 1,000 gallons of industrial fuel oil 3 weeks earlier, I can rightly deduce that a very powerful truck-bomb is in the works.



    I have all the information I need; I order the arrest of everyone involved and all are picked up...you and your liberal terrorist buddies disappear without a trace (As Big Brother I don't have to notify anyone of your whereabouts...and I can do whatever I want with you, for as long as I want!), which brings me to the second reason why government officials would want to have total control over you: To play God!



    "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Henry Kissinger





    Why would "the government" spend trillions on mind control software when they can control your mind with billions using old fasioned marketing? I don't know what you're referring to here but one of the interesting things that has emerged from our investigations into the events surrounding 9/11 is the fact that a software product called PROMIS is used in almost all government agencies...including the FAA and NORAD. I'll let the reader investigate this and draw their own conclusions. A good place to start is with a company named P-TECH...Go here and watch a couple of excellent videos concerning P-TECH, PROMIS and how the CIA uses this powerful spyware...they're the ones entitled 'Indira Singh Sibel's letter" and 'Indira Singh and Ruppert Q&A'.



    this is quite true.



    oh and mad-ace you got served lol.
  • blah40000blah40000 Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by modjoe86

    Originally posted by blah40000

    Originally posted by modjoe86

    So a guy with an upside down American flag isn't banned? Ok mods, keep up the shitty work.
    1. im surprised you haven't been banned yet.



    2. its just an avatar mine is of the real jfk shooter.



    3. this thread is not aboot flaming others for retarded reasons. Why does everyone think I deserve a ban?

    well lets look at the original post you said "keep up the shitty work" yeah like thats not offensive.
  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    Originally posted by poopypants

    Originally posted by MadAce

    Two questions. I'll take a stab at them...



    Why would "the government" want to know where you are? The most obvious reason is to protect themselves...and their corporate friends.  If they know where you are at all times - real time GPS - then they know who you're hanging around with and where you're shopping and what you're buying, etc., etc...



    So...let's say that I'm Big Brother and you're citizen 24680IL (your chip #) and I see that you are at the same location as citizen 13579IL, a known liberal terrorist. I  dispatch agents to your location.......







    The problem is that it doesn't work that way in the real world. The government employee monitoring the chipsets is over getting a coffee for that cute young thing in the next cubicle, gets back to his desk an hour later, checks his email, does a few reports, browses the internet, and, in about two days gets around to forewarding your activities to his supervisor. It sits in his supervisors "in" box for a week, before he gets around to forewarding it to the field. The field manager sits on it for about two weeks bitching about the desk jockeys in Washington not getting him timely information. The field agents stop off to buy a coffee and a donut, oggle a few of the local female talent on the streets, and eventually roll into the location where your meeting took place almost a month from the time it took place. They hang out there for the rest of the afternnon, are home by 3 PM. The next day they write their "dicontinued investigation" report, and prepare to move onto the next month old report. Welcome to America, where only the politicians think survellience is they way to go.

     

     

  • Originally posted by olddaddy

    Originally posted by poopypants

    Originally posted by MadAce

    Two questions. I'll take a stab at them...



    Why would "the government" want to know where you are? The most obvious reason is to protect themselves...and their corporate friends.  If they know where you are at all times - real time GPS - then they know who you're hanging around with and where you're shopping and what you're buying, etc., etc...



    So...let's say that I'm Big Brother and you're citizen 24680IL (your chip #) and I see that you are at the same location as citizen 13579IL, a known liberal terrorist. I  dispatch agents to your location.......







    The problem is that it doesn't work that way in the real world. The government employee monitoring the chipsets is over getting a coffee for that cute young thing in the next cubicle, gets back to his desk an hour later, checks his email, does a few reports, browses the internet, and, in about two days gets around to forewarding your activities to his supervisor. It sits in his supervisors "in" box for a week, before he gets around to forewarding it to the field. The field manager sits on it for about two weeks bitching about the desk jockeys in Washington not getting him timely information. The field agents stop off to buy a coffee and a donut, oggle a few of the local female talent on the streets, and eventually roll into the location where your meeting took place almost a month from the time it took place. They hang out there for the rest of the afternnon, are home by 3 PM. The next day they write their "dicontinued investigation" report, and prepare to move onto the next month old report. Welcome to America, where only the politicians think survellience is they way to go.

     

     

    How do you know that that's the way things work in our government? Have you worked for the CIA? NSA? DIA? No?



    Personally, I think you watch too much TV...The US did not become the worlds sole superpower through the abject incompetence that your example seems to suggest.
  • reavoreavo Member Posts: 2,173
    My 14 year old nephew is on a watch list!!!



    The really funny thing is that both my sister and my brother-in-law are in the military.  My brother-in-law has been to Iraq 3 times.  They are both furious because the last 3 or 4 times they have flown they have been held up at the airport for at least an hour.  Once they missed their flight and had to be put on a later one.



    My brother-in-law has been trying to get my nephew off the list through his command for months but has been unsuccessful.  They are both furious.  My brother-in-law has been in the Navy for 11 years and his whole family lives on base.  You'd think someone somewhere sometime would put 2 and 2 together and straighten their crap out.  And if it's this hard for them to get things fixed, imagine what it's like for other American's who end up on a list for no reason at all.



    Home of the free?!?!?  Not anymore!  They've taken Reagan's "trust but verify" and placed it upon American citizens.
  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356
    Originally posted by poopypants

    Originally posted by olddaddy

    Originally posted by poopypants

    Originally posted by MadAce

    Two questions. I'll take a stab at them...



    Why would "the government" want to know where you are? The most obvious reason is to protect themselves...and their corporate friends.  If they know where you are at all times - real time GPS - then they know who you're hanging around with and where you're shopping and what you're buying, etc., etc...



    So...let's say that I'm Big Brother and you're citizen 24680IL (your chip #) and I see that you are at the same location as citizen 13579IL, a known liberal terrorist. I  dispatch agents to your location.......







    The problem is that it doesn't work that way in the real world. The government employee monitoring the chipsets is over getting a coffee for that cute young thing in the next cubicle, gets back to his desk an hour later, checks his email, does a few reports, browses the internet, and, in about two days gets around to forewarding your activities to his supervisor. It sits in his supervisors "in" box for a week, before he gets around to forewarding it to the field. The field manager sits on it for about two weeks bitching about the desk jockeys in Washington not getting him timely information. The field agents stop off to buy a coffee and a donut, oggle a few of the local female talent on the streets, and eventually roll into the location where your meeting took place almost a month from the time it took place. They hang out there for the rest of the afternnon, are home by 3 PM. The next day they write their "dicontinued investigation" report, and prepare to move onto the next month old report. Welcome to America, where only the politicians think survellience is they way to go.

     

     

    How do you know that that's the way things work in our government? Have you worked for the CIA? NSA? DIA? No?



    Personally, I think you watch too much TV...The US did not become the worlds sole superpower through the abject incompetence that your example seems to suggest.



    Actually, I seldom watch TV at all, shows like CSI are so full of crap. However, if you want to think that Federal intelligence gathering and law enforcement are that astute, go right ahead. It keeps the masses paranoid and in line.

    Putting Reavo's 14 year old nephew on the watch list doesn't smack of competence to me. Nor does searching nuns, and Congressman because their random number comes up sound competent to me.

     

     

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by poopypants

    Originally posted by MadAce





    Why would "the government" want to know where you are? The most obvious reason is to protect themselves...and their corporate friends.  If they know where you are at all times - real time GPS - then they know who you're hanging around with and where you're shopping and what you're buying, etc., etc...



    So...let's say that I'm Big Brother and you're citizen 24680IL (your chip #) and I see that you are at the same location as citizen 13579IL, a known liberal terrorist. I  dispatch agents to your location to surreptitiously gather information about your conversation with citizen 13579IL. When you leave that location our agents follow you to a business that rents Ryder trucks; your conversation with the rental agent, citizen 12345IL, is monitored and he is placed on the watch list along with you and citizen 13579IL.



    Meanwhile, citizen 13579IL and another individual, citizen 09876IL, a local farming technician, meet and travel together to a farm supply company where they purchase 9,000 pounds of Anhydrous Ammonia (a common fertilizer). Now, because I know that citizen 13579IL met with another individual, citizen 12457IL, and that citizen 12457IL purchased a 1,000 gallons of industrial fuel oil 3 weeks earlier, I can rightly deduce that a very powerful truck-bomb is in the works.



    I have all the information I need; I order the arrest of everyone involved and all are picked up...you and your liberal terrorist buddies disappear without a trace (As Big Brother I don't have to notify anyone of your whereabouts...and I can do whatever I want with you, for as long as I want!), which brings me to the second reason why government officials would want to have total control over you: To play God!



    "Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." Henry Kissinger



    So according to you there should have been dozens of bombings so far (by all those liberal terrorists) all around the evil enemy empire because they haven't had this surveillance capacity for decades.

    I'm going to explain you something about psychology here...

    You know why people want evil government conspiracies? And secret agents? And they want to feel followed?



    Because they know they have no control. This huge thing with those tens of thousands of employees called "the government" is so vast and so inconcievable and so impossible to influence... It scares people. It seems like that huge thing is doing its thing and they can't do shit about it. So they want to feel important again. And they start imagining the government actually cares about what they are doing, about their little childish schemes of resistance.

    They want to feel important. That's all. They want to take on that big faceless thing that's called the government and they want to combat it, if not in action, then in idea. And they want to feel like they are conceiving something. And how do you hurt an enemy if it doesn't even notice you? If you're less than an ant for that government? So they start seeing conspiracies. And agents. And GPS.

    So suddenly from being a nobody they're someone whos very thoughts are a danger to that massive organ that's called "The Government", simply because that same government is hunting theit thoughts. It spends trillions to see their patheitc little ideas and their childish acts of resistance... So they must MEAN SOMETHING?



    You know who the best friend is of that faceless demon? That "Big Brother"? Society. People. People in their SUV's and their fear of anything that's new and strange.

    And you know who justifies that demon? At least the idea of that demon, since nobody with a shred of power is going to watse a dollar on really constructing it.

    That demon is justified by the ones who whine to their wives with a beer in their hand how the government wants them and is after them. How they're gonna do what they should as a citizen. How "they're not going to take it any longer" how they will resist.



    So yea, go ahead. Watch your back. Because the government fears you and those other knights of freedom and justice. Yea. The government cares. Wait... was that a strange echo in the phone?




    Why would "the government" spend trillions on mind control software when they can control your mind with billions using old fasioned marketing? I don't know what you're referring to here but one of the interesting things that has emerged from our investigations into the events surrounding 9/11 is the fact that a software product called PROMIS is used in almost all government agencies...including the FAA and NORAD. I'll let the reader investigate this and draw their own conclusions. A good place to start is with a company named P-TECH...Go here and watch a couple of excellent videos concerning P-TECH, PROMIS and how the CIA uses this powerful spyware...they're the ones entitled 'Indira Singh Sibel's letter" and 'Indira Singh and Ruppert Q&A'.



    What I am refering to is advertisement. Is the companies that bombardyou ever minute of your life in buying stuff you don't need or if you need it in buying the stuff THEY sell. That's the real thought control. And that's all there is needed to be controlled about you.

    You're just a statistic, nothing worth controlling.

    Even if you resist, then you'll join another percentage. Nothing for anyone to worry about. You're a dot on a chart. Not even a line.

    You're not a threat. And there is nothingto threaten. There's no office to be destroyed, there's no grand scheme and there are no massive plans to rule the world. because noone gives a fuck. Life is much too simple for that. People want recognition, not the knowledge that they're a jew banker who know that JoeSmith bought a wee too much fertilizer on april the 6th 2007.

    All there is... Is the human urge to spread their genes and memes. Nothing bigger, nothing smaller.


  • frulaafrulaa Member Posts: 78

    In my opinion...

    As long as the U.S. Constitution stays alive and is followed. The goverment cant realy take over anyone. and no one else is going to win and take over the us with money ( though, they might get some things). i dont think that the government is going to get worse, it will overally get better, ( though, it might be in a different way then you might think of today. )

    Or... the government could rewrite the costitution.... giving it complete control.... i dunno ... my thoughts are hard to explain.

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  • Originally posted by frulaa
    In my opinion...
    As long as the U.S. Constitution stays alive and is followed. The goverment cant realy take over anyone. and no one else is going to win and take over the us with money ( though, they might get some things). i dont think that the government is going to get worse, it will overally get better, ( though, it might be in a different way then you might think of today. )
    Or... the government could rewrite the costitution.... giving it complete control.... i dunno ... my thoughts are hard to explain.

    It's ok, explain them. It's how this thread got started in the first place. If you want to write it, write it....

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