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Casual Gamer - EQ2 or LOTRO?

Whats up everyone.  I have been out of the MMO market for a while now and am trying to decide which game to buy to get back into it.  I was originally going to get Vanguard, but after going over to a friend's house to check it out, I don't want anything to do with that game.  It crashed multiple times over the span of 2 hours among other problems, I would rather get a more "finished" product.  I have narrowed my search down to Lord of the Rings Online  and Everquest 2.  I managed to get into the LOTRO beta a month or so ago and got to level 9 or so, then school got busy and I haven't played it in a couple weeks.  This weekend I tried EQ2's 7 day trial and it seems pretty good so far.   I am a casual gamer (less than 10 hours a week), so does anyone have any suggestions on which game would better suit me?  Thanks for your time and if there is another thread similar to mine, I'd appreciate a link (did a search, but didn't find much).



EDIT: Should also add I play PvE mostly.  I like to PvP now and then, but I am mostly a PvE player.

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Playing: EQ2
Retired: WoW, CoH/V, Vanguard

Comments

  • QuinguQuingu Member Posts: 400




    LOTRO for sure.
  • Vanguard-TPVanguard-TP Member Posts: 35
    lord of the rings has no PvP! lord of the rings has monster battles so its not like you are owning people on a toon that you worked hard on leveling up.
  • w175jabw175jab Member Posts: 239
    I'd go for LOTR... just because it's newer and not SOE.



    Not much to screw up with that route
  • Gammit100Gammit100 Member UncommonPosts: 439

    EQ2 - best mature MMORPG out there.

    LOTRO = perfect for Tolkien fanboys.

    WoW = perfect casual MMORPG for people who don't fit the above two descriptions, and for some that do as well.

    MMO games played or tested: EQ, DAoC, Archlord, Auto Assault, CoH, CoV, EQ2, EVE, Guild Wars, Hellgate: London, Linneage II, LOTRO, MxO, Planetside, SWG, Sword of the New World, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, WWIIOL, WOW, Age of Conan

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Everquest 2 Imo. Everquest 2 simply has a lot of content after all those years. But both games are very similar anyhow. you just get a lot more content with EQ2.
  • RaduerielRadueriel Member Posts: 57
    I aswell have been shopping around for a new mmorpg. I've looked a LoTR and read up on it, however as much as I love the story and movie, the game however is just not grabbing my attention. I have a feeling that I would end up getting bored with it rather quickly because of being familiar with the storyline.   I have voted for Eq2 instead. I have yet to buy the game but it still tempts me. I'll be honest and admit that because SoE is involved with Eq2, I have been a bit reluctant in rushing out to the store.   Also to my knowledge there are different servers to accommodate those seeking options to play pve or pvp on Eq2. I for one enjoy pve over mindless pvp. If I wanted to pvp I'd just play Guildwars.



    I've also noticed the current new mmorpg team fad evolving. Not that I don't mind team play but it seems gaming companies are now forcing this on us. Games like Stargate and Startrek, Tabula rasa  and Vanguard are like this to name a few.  I for one like to have the option to solo whenever I want. Sometimes after a long day I like to be anti social.   Eq2 from what I've read allows this.  You could also look at Anarchy Online, However I strongly advise against becoming a subscriber to this game, instead just play it for free.



    For now I'm keeping my eye on Fallen Earth which looks somewhat promising. I may also give in and go buy Eq2.(still thinking about it).



    Currently I broke down and gave in to the harassings of a coworker and started playing......maplestory.   (waits for the laughing to end)  I know its a cheesy game,but its either that or I contribute to the rest of the naive beta paying testers out there....( ok I'm stopping here before I begin to rant.) lol



    At any rate those are my thoughts on the subject.
  • HooahmanHooahman Member Posts: 5
    I actually played WoW last summer (summer of 06).  That was the last MMO I played seriously.  I really liked it, but I want to try something new, so WoW is out of the question.  Plus the community was extremely immature at some points.



    Right now I'm leaning towards EQ2, but I have heard that the server populations are really low right now (aka, game is dying).  Is this true?  I also heard it becomes a huge grind at the later levels.  Hearing the game has a mature community is a plus though, thanks for mentioning that.



    Things that are putting me off LOTRO is the lack of true PvP at all and the fear it will become like WoW community-wise

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    Playing: EQ2
    Retired: WoW, CoH/V, Vanguard

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Hooahman

    I actually played WoW last summer (summer of 06).  That was the last MMO I played seriously.  I really liked it, but I want to try something new, so WoW is out of the question.  Plus the community was extremely immature at some points.



    Right now I'm leaning towards EQ2, but I have heard that the server populations are really low right now (aka, game is dying).  Is this true?  I also heard it becomes a huge grind at the later levels.  Hearing the game has a mature community is a plus though, thanks for mentioning that.



    Things that are putting me off LOTRO is the lack of true PvP at all and the fear it will become like WoW community-wise
    Silly rumors if you ask me. I played about 2 months ago, the game isn't dying. plenty of servers are on full and medium population.



    Imo, Everquest 2 is the best purchase right now (out of those two). if you buy the latest expansion, you will get the full game + all expansions. thats a lot more value and content then Lotro can offer you.
  • HooahmanHooahman Member Posts: 5
    Alright, I think I'm going to go with EQ2.  Thanks for the help guys

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    Playing: EQ2
    Retired: WoW, CoH/V, Vanguard

  • gpettgpett Member Posts: 1,105
    I have played and quit both.  Lotro is actually the perfect game for the casual gamer.  EQ2 is definately more of a grind fest than loro.  Goodluck!
  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939
    LOTRO Has more potential to be better for casual players.  The developers have a better track record with making content that is appealing to all level ranges.



    EQ2 is great if you are going to level to max level and do raids. 



    IMO I would go with either WoW or LOTRO if you are looking for a casual friendly game.  If you are a player that hits endgame though I would go with LOTRO.  Seems to have the most casual friendly endgame of any of them.   Plus it is the newest of the bunch. :)

    Currently playing:
    LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

    Looking Foward too:
    Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  • TheICETheICE Member UncommonPosts: 120
    Eq2  is the best bang for your buck, it has alot of content causal or group personally i would go with eq2 if i was u cause there is ALOT more stuff to do then in lotr.
  • Cabe2323Cabe2323 Member Posts: 2,939
    The thing to keep in mind though is EQ2 is going on 3 years old.  So yes it has more content, but it also has a huge percentage of the population already at level cap.  While Lord Of the Rings Online has less content currently, but is brand new and comes from a company that historically puts out tons of free content in monthly updates.  And since it hasn't released yet the population will all be in your level range.  The open beta cap is 15 so even if you wait to get it till release people who started in open beta will only be level 15.  :)

    Currently playing:
    LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)

    Looking Foward too:
    Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)

  • RattrapRattrap Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,599
    Originally posted by Hooahman

    Alright, I think I'm going to go with EQ2.  Thanks for the help guys
    I think you are making a mistake, and i tell you exactly why...



    EQ2 truly is a gem. It is most evolved PVE MMO , with bigest amount of content and best mechanics.

    But the sad truth is EQ2 is a dying game. It was dying since the day it was released.



    On other side LOTRO is just about to be born. And they have more than million people playing open beta. If only half of those

    go for retail, it will be biggest game after WOW.



    So here you have rather clear choice in any MMO



    If you have to choose between MMO wilt low player base or high, always go for the high.





    Second PVP in EQ2 is insane. It is far more evil than even PVP in Shadowbane or Lineage. It is so chaotic that even hardcore PVP people avoid it -> LOTRO has a thing called MONSTER PLAY that is FUN pvp , with its own special rules and huge battleground area.



    LOTRO beats EQ2 in graphic department and atmosphere



    LOTRO beats EQ2 in solo playing and casual playing



    EQ2 beats LOTRO in shear size of content , but if you are casual player it doesnt mather for you since you go trough it slowly and LOTRO is going to expand fast...



    My advice , go for the new horse

    "Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas

  • linksmiterlinksmiter Member Posts: 8

    EQ2 mate use to play that lacks people now a days LOTRO is a good one to try

    d.manners

  • HuntnHuntn Member Posts: 284

    While LOTRO is not really my cup of tea, based on my experience in the beta it appeared more casual friendly than EQ2.

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    Past MMOs- Planetside, WoW.
    Current MMO:
    Current Games: L4D, Skyrim
    Tried- ATITD, EQ2, SoR, Vanguard,SL,LOTRO,SotNW,SWTOR.
    Anticipating- GW2, Planetside2

  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    I think that LOTRO is more casual friendly than EQ2 is, for starters.  LOTRO's advancement scheme isn't quite as fast as WoW's, but it's noticeably faster than EQ2's.



    In EQ2, you get a game that has been around for 2.5 years now, has several expansions, and therefore a lot of content.  Much of that content is for higher level characters, and it will take you some time to get there with a casual schedule (longer than it would take in WoW, for example).  The game is now pretty well done with most of the bugs worked out of the system.  However, the game is also on its way out, without question.  It's 2.5 years old, there are newer games coming out this year that will seep more subs away from EQ2, and to be honest while you can still certainly find people to play with, it's not nearly as populated as it once was.



    LOTRO, on the other hand, is somewhat faster (and therefore more casual friendly), and of course has a tremendous setting and storyline.  It will have a good deal of subs out of the box, as well. I don't expect that this will mean an immature subscriber base -- there are a lot of mature LOTR fans out there!  However, I think if you are not a big fan of LOTR, the gameplay of LOTRO is essentially the same as most other MMORPG's in most areas -- it just works well, is quite polished, and has that great setting.  The content is smaller than EQ2's with its expansions, considerably smaller, but if the game does well (which seems likely), it's likely that quite a bit of content will be added in the future because some key areas of Middle Earth are not (yet) in the game -- so there's a natural growth direction for the game.



    Honestly if I were you, I would pick LOTRO.  It's a game with a much brighter future than EQ2, and also one that is slightly more casual friendly.
  • KeoghKeogh Member Posts: 1,099

    You've played LOTRO, so you know its PvE based and solo friendly to level 30 or so, and has the rested XP bonus.
    I haven't played EQ2.
    My advice: Learn to make decisions for yourself and accept the responsibility for the choices in life that you make. In the grand scheme of things, choosing a MMO is trivial, but use this as an opportunity to start making decisions for yourself and stop doing what the crowed thinks is cool.

    "Don't corpse-camp that idea. Its never gonna rez"
    Bladezz (The Guild)

  • lomillerlomiller Member Posts: 1,810
    EQ2 population is healthy, and probably growing. I’ve seen a constant stream of players coming from other games after being disappointed by TBC, Vanguard, etc.   

     

    The biggest problem for new players is the fact that the first 50 levels fly by, while that may seem like a good thing what it means is that people progress to the 50’s and 60’s so quickly that the lower levels tend to be under populated.   

     

    I think the key for new players is that they have to be reasonably happy solo, which is easy and fast enough if you pick the right class, or they have to hook up friends or a guild that has a reasonably active lower level population. This doesn’t exclude higher levels guilds, BTW. There are plenty of higher level people interested in mentoring down for things like heritage quests, exploring a dungeon/content they haven’t done to or even just playing a lower level alt.  

     

    LoTR looks like a good bet for a causal player as well, and probably more of a true casual game. I consider EQ2 is semi-casual, in that you can play it a number of different ways and there is something for both moderately casual and moderately hardcore players.  True hardcore players will probably run out of “rewarding” things to do between expansions even if they don’t run out of content.

     

    LoTR will have the advantage of a strong low level population at launch, but EQ2 is available now.  One option is that you could pick up the EoF box for EQ2 and play until LoTR is launched and decide then.  
  • RaduerielRadueriel Member Posts: 57
    Well I read the arguments and I lol'd at most. I've recently upgraded my rig once I noticed that Lotr required a ton of ram to play. So deciding to give it a fair shot and I upgraded to a dual core athlon am2 x2 4600chip, 2gig ram, gforce 7600gt card system. (I plan to get a better card at the end of the year)



    With my new rig (weapon) at hand I dl'd Eq2 isle trial, I played it till lvl 10 (all the time I had atm).  I then logged and loaded up the Lotr open beta and played it till my toon made lvl 10. Both games had settings maxed! Lotr tho made my game very slightly lag in populated areas and with 2 gig of ram I found that to be surprising.  Also I should mention that during my Eq2 experience I took my fury over to an area which I knew I would get ganked by a social group of skeletons(5 of them), this was the only way to test a populated spot for now.  I never noticed any stuttering or any lag, nothing..it went smoothly.



    Graphically from my point of view I found Eq2 graphics to be better. The shading effects and character models seemed to me to be a little more crisp and better moving. Spell effects are very nice and I found it neat that my toon would dodge on his own from attacks. Crafting in Eq2 was entertaining,I spent a good hour hunting down materials and went on a crafting spree. OK I was entertained by this.. I admit that. lol

    I also found that the environment was more detailed then Lotr, Although the textures (fur) on the wolves could have been done better; it's not bad but could be better. Swimming underwater was amazing! I even found a quest to do underwater! A first for me! The underwater effects are very well done although there was no seaweed or coral where I was. Just sand and rocks and ruins....and...well I won't say more you'd have to see for yourself.



    For Lotr, Crafting was about the same but I was not as entertained by it as I was in Eq2.To me it seemed dumbed down...actually it reminded me alot of Wow's crafting(unfortunately). Lotr characters models did'nt seem as crisp or flowing in there movement. I felt as if I was playing a WoW toon...(rubbery body movements). The buildings and enivroment did'nt seem as well done as Eq2. This all could be because of it being a beta mind you. Lotr DID have better looking furry animals.  lol (On a side note I only played the WoW trial and do not consider my self as a WoWfanboi..)



    Both games have quests to be done (what game doesn't?) But from my Lotr experience I became frustrated with incorrect directions given by npcs and the constant running from one end of the given map to the other. Getting a horse was not an option as that you can only go from stable to stable from town to town. So you'd end up spending an hour roaming the forest looking for some npc which would not be where he/she is supposed to be because the quest giver should have said go east instead of west. Also in some cases someone else may have killed your potential target and that would leave you wondering if you where in the correct location this time around or not... Meh,  It wasn't that it was difficult but for me I was'nt having fun.



    For Eq2 even tho I was on a small island, I did'nt have any troubles with quests. Tho once I'm off the island this may change I'm not sure.



    To make a long story short, I had more fun with Eq2 then I did with the Lotr beta. Perhaps when Lotr is offically released experiences will change, but for now I find eq2 more appealing graphically and game play wise. The only thing that still bugs me is that SoE is behind it.  My personal "catch22"



    I personally suggest to anyone who reads this and is wondering which way to go, to play the trials offered and make your own choice. Both games above imo are good but it's the personal preference of ones own gaming style that will be the deciding factor.
  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540
    I would say for a game you are looking for to be casual well none of soe games i know of cater to the casual gamer, most soe games i have played tend to ween towards people whom want to play mmo's more than casual.

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • homeskillethomeskillet Member Posts: 119
    LOTRO but EQ2 is the better game.
  • MMORPDEATHMMORPDEATH Member Posts: 414
    Originally posted by Rattrap





    Second PVP in EQ2 is insane. It is far more evil than even PVP in Shadowbane or Lineage. It is so chaotic that even hardcore PVP people avoid it

     Please explain, Ive experienced nothing of the kind.

    Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice.

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