Lets see now... there were about 310 posts in that thread. For sake of argument lets claim that all 310 of those were unique.
310 people quitting WoW for LOTRO. Out of the 8.5 million subcribers, that amounts to .0000003% of its playerbase. Hardly signficant by anyone's standards.
I see your forgot to mention, StanlyManly, that those 310 posts came from only one forum thread...So, lets see here, 310 from one thread, times however many sites on the internet have threads like this going equals..Heh, well you seem to be good at math, have at it ...For whatever you have against this game, and for whatever reason you keep dismissing the fact that its getting good recognition always remember one thing...It's so good to be an Equal Opportunity Troll
Lets see now... there were about 310 posts in that thread. For sake of argument lets claim that all 310 of those were unique.
310 people quitting WoW for LOTRO. Out of the 8.5 million subcribers, that amounts to .0000003% of its playerbase. Hardly signficant by anyone's standards.
I see your forgot to mention, StanlyManly, that those 310 posts came from only one forum thread...So, lets see here, 310 from one thread, times however many sites on the internet have threads like this going equals..Heh, well you seem to be good at math, have at it ...For whatever you have against this game, and for whatever reason you keep dismissing the fact that its getting good recognition always remember one thing...It's so good to be an Equal Opportunity Troll
Well, just how many sites have threads like this with equal numbers of responses? I'm actually pretty terrible at math, since my decimals point is so completely wrong there, haha. For the life of me, I cannot remember if converting to a percent moved the decimal 2 points to the left or right... I think it should be .003% in the first example though.
For sake of argument, lets just say there are 100 sites with forums that have a thread about leaving WoW for LOTRO. Lets also say that each one has 310 unique respondents.
Thats 31,000 theoretically leaving WoW for LOTRO, which is .3% (I hope!) of the WoW player base. Subjective terms such as "many", can certainly be used in this situation. However, terms such as "significant" cannot.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum.
I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum. I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
I have never read the books, and the movies were only okay to me, yet I have left WoW for this game. We are out there, and have found the next mmo...
AM leaving WOW cos its getting pritty boaring and well tbh LOTRO look sooo much better i am a big fan of LOTR to begin with i relli liked the books but an online LOTR is just gona be sweet so anyway yer bye bye WOWhello LOTRO lol.
Let me get this straight, you stop playing WoW just to shell out more money to play the same game.
AM leaving WOW cos its getting pritty boaring and well tbh LOTRO look sooo much better i am a big fan of LOTR to begin with i relli liked the books but an online LOTR is just gona be sweet so anyway yer bye bye WOWhello LOTRO lol.
Let me get this straight, you stop playing WoW just to shell out more money to play the same game.
/ yawn.
LOTRO-WOW comparisons are sooo yesterday.... they are like l33t typing now. Not even worth a tiny flame
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum. I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
even if LOTRO get one million subscribers will be an huge sucess. don't forget that 8.5 mill subscribers blizzard brag about, 5.5 millions are chineses who don't pay montly fee, even L2 says on box they have 14 millions subscribers.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum. I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
even if LOTRO get one million subscribers will be an huge sucess. don't forget that 8.5 mill subscribers blizzard brag about, 5.5 millions are chineses who don't pay montly fee, even L2 says on box they have 14 millions subscribers.
Wtf? How do 5.5 million chinese get away without paying the monthly fee?
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum. I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
even if LOTRO get one million subscribers will be an huge sucess. don't forget that 8.5 mill subscribers blizzard brag about, 5.5 millions are chineses who don't pay montly fee, even L2 says on box they have 14 millions subscribers.
Wtf? How do 5.5 million chinese get away without paying the monthly fee? yes its the agrement china has with blizzard or you think chineses can afford 14.99 month to play games? last numbers were 1.5 million on europe, 1.5 mill on USA, and 5.5 mill on china, but wow fanbois like to brag about that 8.5 mill subscribers i think lineage 2 fanbois should start to brag about their 14 millions subscribers too.
I think they pay hourly, they don't get to pay WoW for free.
Yep..think alsomostly caus most chinese play in cybercafe instead of their home.At least it is what i make of it , but the guy is right with the numbers.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum. I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
even if LOTRO get one million subscribers will be an huge sucess. don't forget that 8.5 mill subscribers blizzard brag about, 5.5 millions are chineses who don't pay montly fee, even L2 says on box they have 14 millions subscribers.
Wtf? How do 5.5 million chinese get away without paying the monthly fee? yes its the agrement china has with blizzard or you think chineses can afford 14.99 month to play games? last numbers were 1.5 million on europe, 1.5 mill on USA, and 5.5 mill on china, but wow fanbois like to brag about that 8.5 mill subscribers i think lineage 2 fanbois should start to brag about their 14 millions subscribers too.
I don't think, I KNOW that at least 5.5 million chinese can afford to pay 14.99 per month. China has incredibly badly distributed wealth over its population, but the rapidly emerging middle and upper classes sure as hell number way above 5.5 million. The truth is though that they probably don't play WoW. It's the poorer chinese kids that play WoW to sell gold to EU and US players for a living.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum. I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
And posting on here has nothing to do with a games actual player base. Assumptions honestly don't make a person look smart. We'll just have to wait and see how well Lord of the rings does. I'm hoping it does extremely well myself.
Isn't LOTRO very similar to WoW except with different skins and a different storyline? I mean the way the game actually plays.
Not more then Wow is to EQ1 or AC1.... it is an MMO, you know
DB
Best post ever to a response basicly saying , yes... they are both the same, but lets use these other titles out there to glorify the fact this one is not the one we will compaire ... lol classic... I played wow, lotro, eq, daoc, eve, yada yada yada yada yada yada yada... they are ALL THE SAME... ok get over it and move on
remember you are playing ("playing" being the key word here) a video game and if you are having fun who cares what anyone thinks, be it the old or new swg, be it WOW or LOTRO... it's a game., are you having fun? great! then why are you? oh does it play just like WOW? why is that? help those that might be intrested in knowing something with fact
EQ, DAOC, WOW, you name it , all are the same game, they are MMO's, massive multiplayer online games with the same concepts of level, kill, farm and ofcourse the "monthly fee"... I think it would be safe to assume many here are going to LOTRO because WOW is now old to them, just as I leave daoc and goto swg yet again, back and forth I go waiting on a good game to come out. I tried LOTRO and didn't like it to be honest, but then again I didn't like the graphics in DnD online and this game looks just like it and plays the same in my eyes, (well beyond the instancing) it all comes down to preferances.
WHO might be good to me because of the game being based on pvp.. but then again STO could be good because I am a fan of ST as much as LOTR, thou STO latly has been releasing info about their game that is a huge turnoff, so at this point out of all known massive online games coming out the only one with intrest to me is ...... eh you don't care, .. but allot is coming and I only think one will be actually unique and fun to play.,.,. but again that is all subjective to begin with huh?
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Isn't LOTRO very similar to WoW except with different skins and a different storyline? I mean the way the game actually plays.
Not more then Wow is to EQ1 or AC1.... it is an MMO, you know
DB
Best post ever to a response basicly saying , yes... they are both the same, but lets use these other titles out there to glorify the fact this one is not the one we will compaire ... lol classic... I played wow, lotro, eq, daoc, eve, yada yada yada yada yada yada yada... they are ALL THE SAME... ok get over it and move on
remember you are playing ("playing" being the key word here) a video game and if you are having fun who cares what anyone thinks, be it the old or new swg, be it WOW or LOTRO... it's a game., are you having fun? great! then why are you? oh does it play just like WOW? why is that? help those that might be intrested in knowing something with fact
EQ, DAOC, WOW, you name it , all are the same game, they are MMO's, massive multiplayer online games with the same concepts of level, kill, farm and ofcourse the "monthly fee"... I think it would be safe to assume many here are going to LOTRO because WOW is now old to them, just as I leave daoc and goto swg yet again, back and forth I go waiting on a good game to come out. I tried LOTRO and didn't like it to be honest, but then again I didn't like the graphics in DnD online and this game looks just like it and plays the same in my eyes, (well beyond the instancing) it all comes down to preferances.
WHO might be good to me because of the game being based on pvp.. but then again STO could be good because I am a fan of ST as much as LOTR, thou STO latly has been releasing info about their game that is a huge turnoff, so at this point out of all known massive online games coming out the only one with intrest to me is ...... eh you don't care, .. but allot is coming and I only think one will be actually unique and fun to play.,.,. but again that is all subjective to begin with huh?
My response was trying emphasise that WoW was _not_ the first MMOG and it did NOT invent anything (other than further sophistication of existing , working (MMO) game mechanics). But it gets really boring to bring this up for the 100th ignorant "lotro is wow 2.0" troll rant...
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Well I am keeping and playin both... I think WoW is an amazing game and I am really starting to get into LOTRO even though I have not gotten that far at all... it seems promising and the AI is amazing... I will keep both... big deal an extra 10 bucks a month... woo-hoo...
AM leaving WOW cos its getting pritty boaring and well tbh LOTRO look sooo much better i am a big fan of LOTR to begin with i relli liked the books but an online LOTR is just gona be sweet so anyway yer bye bye WOWhello LOTRO lol.
Let me get this straight, you stop playing WoW just to shell out more money to play the same game.
/ yawn.
LOTRO-WOW comparisons are sooo yesterday.... they are like l33t typing now. Not even worth a tiny flame
DB
Actually, LotRO-WoW are still being done on this board and on the general forums whenever LotRO topic pop up. Most of the community in MMORPG.com agree that LotRO is a WoW clone. You're just in denial of the negative comparisons and you're telling yourself they are old.
AM leaving WOW cos its getting pritty boaring and well tbh LOTRO look sooo much better i am a big fan of LOTR to begin with i relli liked the books but an online LOTR is just gona be sweet so anyway yer bye bye WOWhello LOTRO lol.
Let me get this straight, you stop playing WoW just to shell out more money to play the same game.
/ yawn.
LOTRO-WOW comparisons are sooo yesterday.... they are like l33t typing now. Not even worth a tiny flame
DB
Actually, LotRO-WoW are still being done on this board and on the general forums whenever LotRO topic pop up. Most of the community in MMORPG.com agree that LotRO is a WoW clone. You're just in denial of the negative comparisons and you're telling yourself they are old.
We are all completely aware that LotRO is extremely similar to the EQ/WoW type mmo. A clone is an exact replicate, so your just being a george i'm afraid. LotRO got inspiration from alot of mmorpgs, just like WoW, just like VG, just like all products that base themselves of something that has been done before.
Basically we know LotRO will not tickle the complete fancy of people looking for something new (such as me). To others, it's a great game. It's not a clone. If it was you would be telling me that all music of the same genre are clones, all resturaunts are clones, take-away shops clones, gaming consoles clones, FPS clones, adventure games clones. Do I need to go on?
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
I played WoW for years and think I'm going to quit since the end game is getting horrible and my guild is dying. I tried out LOTR online beta for a few days and thought it was interesting and could be better if I spend more time on it. So...LOTR here I come..its going to be a good time sink since summer just started
"LOTRO is a WoW CLONE! ! !11" , no one cares about that except morons, mmorpgs in their base are alike and most of them has the same features with a few exceptions.. like -Play As A Mob- (uuuoohhhhh!! ) .
LOTRO is another mmorpg which has almost nothing new and executes old ideas really badly, its title is the only thing keeping it alive, oh! and the fact that alot of ppl are tired from playing WoW (like me), gonna spare my money and wait for a fresh amd polished new mmo.
NEXT!
World of Warcraft is a proof that MMORPG quality should affect schedule/budget and not the other way around.
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Lets see now... there were about 310 posts in that thread. For sake of argument lets claim that all 310 of those were unique.
310 people quitting WoW for LOTRO. Out of the 8.5 million subcribers, that amounts to .0000003% of its playerbase. Hardly signficant by anyone's standards.
I see your forgot to mention, StanlyManly, that those 310 posts came from only one forum thread...So, lets see here, 310 from one thread, times however many sites on the internet have threads like this going equals..Heh, well you seem to be good at math, have at it ...For whatever you have against this game, and for whatever reason you keep dismissing the fact that its getting good recognition always remember one thing...It's so good to be an Equal Opportunity Troll
Lets see now... there were about 310 posts in that thread. For sake of argument lets claim that all 310 of those were unique.
310 people quitting WoW for LOTRO. Out of the 8.5 million subcribers, that amounts to .0000003% of its playerbase. Hardly signficant by anyone's standards.
I see your forgot to mention, StanlyManly, that those 310 posts came from only one forum thread...So, lets see here, 310 from one thread, times however many sites on the internet have threads like this going equals..Heh, well you seem to be good at math, have at it ...For whatever you have against this game, and for whatever reason you keep dismissing the fact that its getting good recognition always remember one thing...It's so good to be an Equal Opportunity Troll
Well, just how many sites have threads like this with equal numbers of responses? I'm actually pretty terrible at math, since my decimals point is so completely wrong there, haha. For the life of me, I cannot remember if converting to a percent moved the decimal 2 points to the left or right... I think it should be .003% in the first example though.
For sake of argument, lets just say there are 100 sites with forums that have a thread about leaving WoW for LOTRO. Lets also say that each one has 310 unique respondents.
Thats 31,000 theoretically leaving WoW for LOTRO, which is .3% (I hope!) of the WoW player base. Subjective terms such as "many", can certainly be used in this situation. However, terms such as "significant" cannot.
Have fun.
Equal opportunity troll.
of course the poll would be biased in favor of LOTR in a LOTR forum.
I think LOTR is only going to hold onto fanatics of the LOTR books/movies/mythology. I think they did a great job on the game and it looks sweet, but it is the same song and dance as the dozen others out there. I predict total active membership after 6 months to be maybe 1-2 million worldwide.
Keep in mind that at best maybe 1 in 100 players actually visit AND post in these forums. So it is probably more like 300,000 will leave WoW for LOTR. That still means LOTR fails badly in comparison.
LOTRO-WOW comparisons are sooo yesterday.... they are like l33t typing now. Not even worth a tiny flame
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Not more then Wow is to EQ1 or AC1.... it is an MMO, you know
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Not more then Wow is to EQ1 or AC1.... it is an MMO, you know
DB
Fair enough, thought WoW IS similar to Everquest in the way the game plays, as with most MMOs nowadays. It was a question though.
I haven't played LOTRO yet, but i'm assuming that so far not many MMOs are managing to break away from the cookie cutter cloning spell
Wtf? How do 5.5 million chinese get away without paying the monthly fee?
Wtf? How do 5.5 million chinese get away without paying the monthly fee? yes its the agrement china has with blizzard or you think chineses can afford 14.99 month to play games? last numbers were 1.5 million on europe, 1.5 mill on USA, and 5.5 mill on china, but wow fanbois like to brag about that 8.5 mill subscribers i think lineage 2 fanbois should start to brag about their 14 millions subscribers too.
Wtf? How do 5.5 million chinese get away without paying the monthly fee? yes its the agrement china has with blizzard or you think chineses can afford 14.99 month to play games? last numbers were 1.5 million on europe, 1.5 mill on USA, and 5.5 mill on china, but wow fanbois like to brag about that 8.5 mill subscribers i think lineage 2 fanbois should start to brag about their 14 millions subscribers too.
I don't think, I KNOW that at least 5.5 million chinese can afford to pay 14.99 per month. China has incredibly badly distributed wealth over its population, but the rapidly emerging middle and upper classes sure as hell number way above 5.5 million. The truth is though that they probably don't play WoW. It's the poorer chinese kids that play WoW to sell gold to EU and US players for a living.
Not more then Wow is to EQ1 or AC1.... it is an MMO, you know
DB
Best post ever to a response basicly saying , yes... they are both the same, but lets use these other titles out there to glorify the fact this one is not the one we will compaire ... lol classic... I played wow, lotro, eq, daoc, eve, yada yada yada yada yada yada yada... they are ALL THE SAME... ok get over it and move on
remember you are playing ("playing" being the key word here) a video game and if you are having fun who cares what anyone thinks, be it the old or new swg, be it WOW or LOTRO... it's a game., are you having fun? great! then why are you? oh does it play just like WOW? why is that? help those that might be intrested in knowing something with fact
EQ, DAOC, WOW, you name it , all are the same game, they are MMO's, massive multiplayer online games with the same concepts of level, kill, farm and ofcourse the "monthly fee"... I think it would be safe to assume many here are going to LOTRO because WOW is now old to them, just as I leave daoc and goto swg yet again, back and forth I go waiting on a good game to come out. I tried LOTRO and didn't like it to be honest, but then again I didn't like the graphics in DnD online and this game looks just like it and plays the same in my eyes, (well beyond the instancing) it all comes down to preferances.
WHO might be good to me because of the game being based on pvp.. but then again STO could be good because I am a fan of ST as much as LOTR, thou STO latly has been releasing info about their game that is a huge turnoff, so at this point out of all known massive online games coming out the only one with intrest to me is ...... eh you don't care, .. but allot is coming and I only think one will be actually unique and fun to play.,.,. but again that is all subjective to begin with huh?
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Not more then Wow is to EQ1 or AC1.... it is an MMO, you know
DB
Best post ever to a response basicly saying , yes... they are both the same, but lets use these other titles out there to glorify the fact this one is not the one we will compaire ... lol classic... I played wow, lotro, eq, daoc, eve, yada yada yada yada yada yada yada... they are ALL THE SAME... ok get over it and move on
remember you are playing ("playing" being the key word here) a video game and if you are having fun who cares what anyone thinks, be it the old or new swg, be it WOW or LOTRO... it's a game., are you having fun? great! then why are you? oh does it play just like WOW? why is that? help those that might be intrested in knowing something with fact
EQ, DAOC, WOW, you name it , all are the same game, they are MMO's, massive multiplayer online games with the same concepts of level, kill, farm and ofcourse the "monthly fee"... I think it would be safe to assume many here are going to LOTRO because WOW is now old to them, just as I leave daoc and goto swg yet again, back and forth I go waiting on a good game to come out. I tried LOTRO and didn't like it to be honest, but then again I didn't like the graphics in DnD online and this game looks just like it and plays the same in my eyes, (well beyond the instancing) it all comes down to preferances.
WHO might be good to me because of the game being based on pvp.. but then again STO could be good because I am a fan of ST as much as LOTR, thou STO latly has been releasing info about their game that is a huge turnoff, so at this point out of all known massive online games coming out the only one with intrest to me is ...... eh you don't care, .. but allot is coming and I only think one will be actually unique and fun to play.,.,. but again that is all subjective to begin with huh?
My response was trying emphasise that WoW was _not_ the first MMOG and it did NOT invent anything (other than further sophistication of existing , working (MMO) game mechanics). But it gets really boring to bring this up for the 100th ignorant "lotro is wow 2.0" troll rant...
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Well I am keeping and playin both... I think WoW is an amazing game and I am really starting to get into LOTRO even though I have not gotten that far at all... it seems promising and the AI is amazing... I will keep both... big deal an extra 10 bucks a month... woo-hoo...
World of Warcraft is a proof that MMORPG quality should affect schedule/budget and not the other way around.
LOTRO-WOW comparisons are sooo yesterday.... they are like l33t typing now. Not even worth a tiny flame
DB
Actually, LotRO-WoW are still being done on this board and on the general forums whenever LotRO topic pop up. Most of the community in MMORPG.com agree that LotRO is a WoW clone. You're just in denial of the negative comparisons and you're telling yourself they are old.
LOTRO-WOW comparisons are sooo yesterday.... they are like l33t typing now. Not even worth a tiny flame
DB
Actually, LotRO-WoW are still being done on this board and on the general forums whenever LotRO topic pop up. Most of the community in MMORPG.com agree that LotRO is a WoW clone. You're just in denial of the negative comparisons and you're telling yourself they are old.
We are all completely aware that LotRO is extremely similar to the EQ/WoW type mmo. A clone is an exact replicate, so your just being a george i'm afraid. LotRO got inspiration from alot of mmorpgs, just like WoW, just like VG, just like all products that base themselves of something that has been done before.
Basically we know LotRO will not tickle the complete fancy of people looking for something new (such as me). To others, it's a great game. It's not a clone. If it was you would be telling me that all music of the same genre are clones, all resturaunts are clones, take-away shops clones, gaming consoles clones, FPS clones, adventure games clones. Do I need to go on?
Currently Playing: Everything but MMORPGs
Cancelled: L2, FFXI, VSoH, LotRO, WAR, WoW
Looking Forward To: SW:TOR
"LOTRO is a WoW CLONE! ! !11" , no one cares about that except morons, mmorpgs in their base are alike and most of them has the same features with a few exceptions.. like -Play As A Mob- (uuuoohhhhh!! ) .
LOTRO is another mmorpg which has almost nothing new and executes old ideas really badly, its title is the only thing keeping it alive, oh! and the fact that alot of ppl are tired from playing WoW (like me), gonna spare my money and wait for a fresh amd polished new mmo.
NEXT!
World of Warcraft is a proof that MMORPG quality should affect schedule/budget and not the other way around.