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over 21 or 25 age servers/realms ?
abyssenia
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I was wondering if folks would be interested in some games like EQ2 or WOW having a 25 year old (or 21 yrs) + server/realm/domain or whatever in order to have a more mellow crowd ?
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While on its face, it sounds like a good idea, and as a mature player (52 years young) seems like something I would embrace, I have to say that some of the most enjoyable and insightful players I have met have been "kids." Contrarily, some of the most obnoxious and ignorant players I have met have been "adults."
Pick your friends carefully, whether they be over or under 18 and you'll have an enjoyable gaming experience.
Impossible to enforce.
Many under 18s sign up using their parent's CC so even if you were to say using CC age it would not work.
Plus it looks like a form of segregation too.
I don't really see the reason for segregation.
If I think about it, I remember my newbie days in my first MMO, eq. Well in EQ it was pretty neat to find out how old people were...there I was , 13 years old (2 years ago) and there would be a person in the group saying "afk guys...needa go pick up my son from middle school"
MMO's are about bringing different people together not only in regions, but in race, age, and sex. If you take that out of a MMO, there is no MMO in the RPG.
It would just be a server with people.
Sure, even some younger people make me mad sometimes
, but isnt' that the heart of a mmorpg?
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Definitely not.
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I don't think the issue is how old someone actually is.... but rather how old they act. We don't need a 18+ filter, we need an anti-butthead filter. Sadly, AI of that capability is far, far away.
Personally, those "L33T" and "PWNED" people drive me to distraction. Many of them are 18+. Thats why ignore functions are so important to me in an MMO. As soon as I see someone using this techno-uber babble, they are slapped on my ignore list. Those individuals who feel the need to shout their business all over the server (regardless of the endless shouts for them to shut up) are quickly added to this "L33T" group of people as well.
The other thing that annoys me in any game, are the inevitable beggars. Receiving a tell in the middle of a quest such as, "Hey, do you have anything I can have or use?" and "Can I have some money?" is distracting and usually makes you feel needless guilt when you tell them no. I will engage in charitable acts when and if I feel like it, don't pester me for it.
As for scammers.... in a PvP environment, I will kill you. In a non-PvP environment, I will report you and continue to warn everyone I run into about you.
PK's, thats fine and dandy, I have every right to defend myself or run away. However, if you have PK'd me in the past, don't whine when I Bogart your ass later on. Pk is only fun if you aren't the one getting your ass kicked.
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Actually I sort of have to agree with Murt. I mean the whole point of an MMO is to meet all different kinds of people, whether they be good or bad, childish or mature, funny or serious, that's the whole idea of an MMO. By implementing a 25+ or whatever server, you just see the same types of people there, and that isn't fun, right?
Though it would be nice to see something like that, I mean I'm not 21 or 25+, but I'm sure some of them do get frusterated and want to play with people their own age, so let them if they want to.
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I disagree with the age cap as well. If we are supposed to be roleplaying characters in a fantasy world, whos to say that some of those characters we are roleplaying are not supposed to be acting a certain way. In real life you live with people who act childish even when older, and im sure while roleplaying in a fantasy world there will people who act childish. The age cap does not necessarily mean that it will make the community more mellow or what not.
Actually, it could get pretty boring if everybody were 21+ because every once in a while everybody wants to act at least a little bit childish and fool around. Well, i hope so at least.
Just play the games that appeal to the demographic you're interested in playing with. If you play games like EQ and DAoC, you're likely to run into a lot of younger kids. Eve online, on the otherhand, appeals to an older community because it's not so much of a non-stop action, hack-n-slash game, the gameplay has more long lasting appeal to older people. Same with older games like Asherons Call, which has an older, established community, most of the kids have left for newer eye candy. As for upcoming games, WoW will no doubt be flooded with a ton of kids under 18, where a game like Warhammer Online has will have more of the old school Warhammer and PnP RPG players that are older.
I'm not in favor of strictly enforcing age limits on servers because some people that are young are mature beyond their years and visa versa for some immature brats who are 30+.
I am 15 ( mature for my age ) and I am an expiernced player and I have a hard time finding people my own age even in the games you would think alot of kids would be playing. I have reconized that some of the most immature annoying people are adults maybe becuase i only have seen adults in most of the games i played in. Who knows. . but there has been some annoying children out there that are a bit obnoxious but those are the ones below my age. I have learn to play with the older crowd of people to play with.
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Age cap would never work because it's not always the youngest people that are the "kids" ingame.
If they want to have a "mature" server then I think they need to change to harder rules and enforce them harder, if you don't follow your account will be banned from that server.
Don't allow spamming, annoying "kids" and other stuff that the "mature" playerbase want to be without.
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ya, im with the create the mature server instead of an age server. the one thing that i hate more than anything on online games is when u got some kid (or adult) swearing away. im 14 and most 14 year olds swear but i see no point in it. so if wicked strict regulations were placed in a 'mature' server that would be awsome, but other than that im going to have to listen to them cuse in my face. just deal with it
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Immaturity isnt the thing that really annoys me. Its these gratuitously disgusting and crude fag's that are always saying something nasty or disgusting. That and those people that are cursing continuously.
To me, thats the most annoying thing in an MMRPG. That and whiners when I kill em.
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The problem with this is your assuming that Immaturity is related to age. While I think we agree averagely 20 year olds are generally mroe mature than 15 year olds, once over 20 age has very little to do with maturity.
From my experience the most Immaturity players I have meet, or gotten to know where in there 30's or 40's. often games provide an outlet to be Immature.
Males tend to be younger than women, 12-28. Female players tend to be 22-40.
"The graph above plotting gender against age highlights another very important gender difference. Male players tend to be between 12 and 28, while female players tend to be between 23 and 40. Rather than categorizing MMORPG players as male and female players, it perhaps makes more sense to think of the two main groups as younger male players and older female players." - http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/000194.php
as you can tell, there really aren't that many players that are immature due to age.
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ok, sice we've moved to the gender thing... well yah, fmales are goin to be a lot mature compared to guys. my thoery is if your a 22 years old that sums down to 7 years old for men. all us males are perverts deep inside and still like to going to candy stores....
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Like everyone said, it wouldn't work. Adult gamers in general are more youthful than their non-gaming counterparts. Everyone would accuse another of being a kid when arguments break out.
Would be great, but not really possible because you cannot really know what their age is....
But, it would rules, 99,9% of the adults I've met were okay, its with the kids I usually have trouble. I really don't think an adult could be speaking like a DEWD......anyway, not those I met in my three years experience.
However, I have met some great younger people ( younger than me I mean, I'm 25 ) so they are not all jerks.......
I was kinda envisioning it as an optional thing that doesn't need to be 'enforced'. Like one of the servers is just for slightly older folks who self select for wanting to game there.
I never really had any thing that made me think one age was a problem. My buddy Mark (who played alot of UO, EQ, AC, and is even in WOW beta) went on a rant about how he'd pay 5$ extra for such a server because of testosterone driven immature behavior so I thought I would throw it out there.
Althought there is some points on this topic, I think the general aspect of this topic is so trivial that the game should focus on others issues until nobody complain for a full 4 hours in a row, then, and only then, could they focus on this issue if they really care.
At any rate, those servers would need to have shared zones with others servers as well. Some of my RL friends are 60+, some are 18-, and I am 30 and I rather play with my friend no matter how young or old they are then play with anyone else, and I know, for sure, we would just all storm on a 18- server to make sure we can all play together without getting the kids among us traumatised with an adult topic that could be bringed on them.
It is hard to prevent kids to go on an adult server, but it would be impossible to prevents adults going on the kindergarden area, as, per definition, kids use adults ID credit card and all...*grin*
I think it would be better to make a few(not many) zones that are ages restricted should you want to attain this goal, it would be easier to control as folks would enter age at character creation having no idea what zones diferences it make, and the zones differences should not alienate any player on any aspect, so they can only be clones of others zones(really need to be trivial zones IMHO)...
And if you must generalised, I would say the elders folks are usually the kindest around, but they are also the less helpfull, because they are so tired and old and all, while the kids are those that make me do that extra action to compete and remain in the stream, they keep me alert. Those of my age usually are evil, lack, leeches...nah joking, any generalisation is bad, but usually the older, the nicer, yet the less involved, they see more from life and they think more over their actions, as this is only a little game, no more...and kids put some competition, which is good, need to keep old me active or I will slumber and find it to easy!
Kids are more likely to actually help(or train you), while elders are more likely to be kind without helping.
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i have to say im a bit agree on "both" sides in this one....the kids comes with something cool now and then, funny jokes, clumsy statements and things that are taken with pleasure and fun, but when you have this "i cannot play more than 1 hr 3 times a week, because my mother tells me to" i dont realy like it that much anymore....
the positive thing about havin a mature server or something, is that you will have mature "relations" to the game, the ppl inside and everything(personal experience), you can roleplay better, and ppl tend to stick to their "background" better, than young kids do...and are a bit more patient, understand whats going on and show passion for others you play with...all this is personal experience, some might have other oppinions...but i cant see why the games cant just have a mature server or something...
Hmm dont think itl work... No way to enforce it and anyway some kids are mature and adults are not. Just treat others like you would like to be treated, and shaft those that shafted you! lol
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