It is not propaganda! Bush is committed to the vision that the only long term answer to the powder keg of the Middle East is to clear the scene of tyrants and allow the people there to grow decent, lawful and have representative governments Err yea denial is not just a river, Iraq is barly holding itself together right now and thats only becasue its occupied.. For his courageous stand on "other" people's freedoms, not just that of Americans, President Bush is among our greatest presidents.
Most of you people have Iraqnophobia...the pathological loathing and fear of victory in Iraq Not really as we ahve yet to see a victory in Iraq.. What the heck is wrong with you liberals? All you do is quit and surrender to the enemy. In over 60 years, the Democrats have not won any wars (lost one and tied one), while the Republicans have NEVER lost one, 5 wins 0 losses) Perhaps it would help if you named these wars.. If you don’t call Harry Reid’s statement WHO? as giving hope to the terrorists, then I don’t know what. These Surrender-o-crats make me sick. If you’re a yellow bellied coward, then you’re not an American. Move to Fr**ce. Have you looked at Israel today? Its a democracy, as a matter of fact the only democracy in the Middle East. A democracy held together by military might and by intimidating the muslim peasents and stealing thee land and water if america withdrew its support it wont last 10 years.
I've always thought of Bush as more of a chimpanzee or orangutan by the way he talks and acts.
Outfctrl do you support Bush because its patriotic and he is the president and deserves respect no matter what? Do you think people who don't like Bush are unpatriotic and are borderline terrorists and need to be investigated? Or do you just like him because of his views?
It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party!
I support him for his honestyand his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country.
As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
Weapons of Mass destruction + Iraq.
'nuff said.
What you got tounderstand is that Emperor bush needwe an excuse to seize the iraqi oil for the use of Imperiall america so he got his CIA buddies to fabricate an excuse like he fabricated an excuse for invading afganistan to create oil PiPelines.
Becasue what we did in afganistan was so horrible Woman can now get an education *GASP* the horror and men can look at internet porn now woohoo. on a serious note i mean come on everyone wants to aoutomaticly think the worst og us when we do anything. woman in that country were so persacuted (sp) in that country it wasnt funney. if i remember right they could be killed for trying to learn to read.
And the iraq's were such good people before we went in. they will strap bombs to their own children and sacrifce them Never happened . They are cutting the heards off relief workers who are just there to help them Never happened. they arent even soilders. So yea we are so evil for trying to put a tyranical government out of power and trying to free a prople. Ok yea it took a terrorist attack on our soil to get us to move but oh well
If iraq can bechanged then the world will be better for everyone including those living in iraq.
Non of that ever happend in Iraq before yuo destroyed the country now its filled with Terrorists because you ahd no Exit stratagy DiD you. Heh you thought the Iraq people would welcome you with open arms and all love you.....How wrong that turned out to be.
It is not propaganda! Bush is committed to the vision that the only long term answer to the powder keg of the Middle East is to clear the scene of tyrants and allow the people there to grow decent, lawful and have representative governments. For his courageous stand on "other" people's freedoms, not just that of Americans, President Bush is among our greatest presidents.
Most of you people have Iraqnophobia...the pathological loathing and fear of victory in Iraq. What the heck is wrong with you liberals? All you do is quit and surrender to the enemy. In over 60 years, the Democrats have not won any wars (lost one and tied one), while the Republicans have NEVER lost one, 5 wins 0 losses). If you don’t call Harry Reid’s statement as giving hope to the terrorists, then I don’t know what. These Surrender-o-crats make me sick. If you’re a yellow bellied coward, then you’re not an American. Move to Fr**ce. Have you looked at Israel today? Its a democracy, as a matter of fact the only democracy in the Middle East.
Now i did post out of well boredom just now but this i want to reply to.The so called freedom for others you claim bush is after maybe works in america but in a lot of other countries across the world the viewpoint on this is verry different.
The invasion in iraq btw is not about victory on the battlefield.It is about the fact that the people from iraq should have a better life previous to what they did have.Now i am not saying they had a nice time with saddam but if the majority of people are now off worse then previous then i start to have my doubts about what you call victory or loss.Also the reasons given for the invasion where total bs.No weapons of mass destruction where found.Again not saying that saddam was any good but starting a war over a lie is just as bad.
Daddy made a mess and didn't clean up so now george wanted to do it for daddy's sake.So far he failed and i doubt if this war will be a succes if you measure it through the succes-standards i just gave.That's what i think of it..not knwoing if it's right offcourse since i can not know all the facts as none of us can.
I think george bush is verry bas for the usa for the simple reason that he made the usa verry onpopular in foreign countries.Wich is what will get the terrorist threat on an even higher level then before.He claimed he would kill the threat but i think he made it even worse.And that i find verry sad for both the peoplein the usa as other western countries who stood beside the usa through all of this.
Last you talk about the gun powder in the middle east and that bush want the people there to live a decent life.Then why does he keep supporting israel by far over palestine?You claim israel is the only reall democracy in middle east.Well not to my standards.My guess is you know how israel was "founded".You probably also know then that all the traffic in and out of palestine is being handled by israel and that palestinian people can't even fart without israel giving them promision?Now don't say this is because the terrosrist threat because it is the other way around.The threat is there because of the oppresion.But somehow this type of oppresion is allowed and saddam's oppresion isn't.Yeah that sounds like reall high standard democratic policies to me.
I don't want to offend anyone , also not the person i quoted but i know a lot of people will agree with me on some points i made here.
Bush is not getting the powder keg away in the middle east...he is handing out the fire to light it and my only fear is that if he keeps on the path he's on for all of his office-years now it will be to late to really change the idea/mentallity people in the middle east have about the west.
Those stupid number games aren't very valid, you can create a formula to get 666 from most people's names. I do like the picture of him as the Antichrist, it's rather silly aint it.. Anyway, did anyone think that site's music sounded like the music from Runescape? That was actually my first thought on there, which is weird.. I dunno, I haven't played it in ages, most people on here haven't.
It is not propaganda! Bush is committed to the vision that the only long term answer to the powder keg of the Middle East is to clear the scene of tyrants and allow the people there to grow decent, lawful and have representative governments. For his courageous stand on "other" people's freedoms, not just that of Americans, President Bush is among our greatest presidents.
Most of you people have Iraqnophobia...the pathological loathing and fear of victory in Iraq. What the heck is wrong with you liberals? All you do is quit and surrender to the enemy. In over 60 years, the Democrats have not won any wars (lost one and tied one), while the Republicans have NEVER lost one, 5 wins 0 losses). If you don’t call Harry Reid’s statement as giving hope to the terrorists, then I don’t know what. These Surrender-o-crats make me sick. If you’re a yellow bellied coward, then you’re not an American. Move to Fr**ce. Have you looked at Israel today? Its a democracy, as a matter of fact the only democracy in the Middle East.
It is propaganda dude. Please, don't treat me as stupid.
Propaganda is a type of message aimed at influencing the opinions or behavior of people. Often, instead of impartially providing information, propaganda can be deliberately misleading, or using fallacies, which, while sometimes convincing, are not necessarily valid.
Get it? You're spewing propaganda and doing little effort to conceil it. American generals have said there is little or no realistic (if there is one at all) long-term vision for the middle east. And Bush certainly doesn't have one. Stop insulting Americas presidents. I'm not an American citizen and even I feel insulted because of the constant comparison between Bush and great Presidents like Lincoln and Kennedy.
Also, stop calling people liberals. In many countries it's not an insult. So that won't work. In many European countries liberalism is an almost forgotten right wing ideology and libertarianism is mostly considered to be foolish.
You can't win a war against terrorism if you don't have the public opinion and if you use conventional tactics. Unlike popular believe among people like you, terrorism isn't a movement like communism, but a military tactic. Fighting terrorism is like saying you're gonna fight carpet bombings or the echelon formation. It's absurd.
Saddam was an asshole, yes. He didn't harbor any WOMD, he didn't have the resources to make any and the UN did quite a good job at disrupting his pathetic attempts to get any. Saddam was threatened inside his country, among his enemies was Al-Qaeda. Saddam and Al-Qaeda had distinctly different ideologies. The Republican guard was actively hunting down Al-Qaeda. This is backed by genuine CIA reports.
The proof presented by the Bush administration about there being WOMD was false. They were lies. Untrue. In short, they said something to the American people that wasn't true. If that's not undemocratic, I dunno anymore...
If there were to be a war in Iraq then it should have been in a UN framework with international support. There should have been a plan for rebuilding Iraq and the occupying forces shouldn't have been American. We all know that. Millions of people knew that back in 2003, and hundreds of military specialists in the US knew that. You think your country is militarily inadequate?
Now there is a situation where hundreds of small groups in Iraq do anything to make a living, secure their neighbourhood, advance the goals of their factions, ... And many of them do it with weapons. Not to mention the tens of thousands that oppose the occupying forces.
You should've sticked to Afghanistan and cleared that country. That was a just war. In as far as wars can be just...
You must have lost your touch if I can blow your radical, unnuanciated, insulting (not to me tho, apart from the presidents part), unconstructive propaganda away with so much ease.
You know in some ways it does make sense (Oh, no I'm a terrorist now....). He took a fairly good economy that was growing and destoyed it. Then he lucked out with the 9/11 attacks. He has said many comments on how God is working through him. He always refers to the terrorist as radical muslims, they are, but still he could say crazy-ass Middle Easterns. The Jesus Camp kids were creepy, I saw the number thing used to predict 9/11 down to the smallest detail, so I think it's fake. In a symbolic term the image of the beast makes sense, but that could just be interpretation. Satan is very cunning that's painfully obvious and I think the Anti-Christ would love comments like, "He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ" "How could someone so religious be evil?" "If you have a problem with America you have a problem with me" (hehehe). If Bush isn't the Anti-Christ, I didn't like so what does it matter. If he is' I didn't like him so it still doesn't matter
I'm of the opinion that the anti christ will probably never be accused of being the anti christ until it's too late...So Bush, Ahmadinejad, and the rest of them, all fail their apocolypticness test.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
You know in some ways it does make sense (Oh, no I'm a terrorist now....). He took a fairly good economy that was growing and destoyed it. Then he lucked out with the 9/11 attacks. He has said many comments on how God is working through him. He always refers to the terrorist as radical muslims, they are, but still he could say crazy-ass Middle Easterns. The Jesus Camp kids were creepy, I saw the number thing used to predict 9/11 down to the smallest detail, so I think it's fake. In a symbolic term the image of the beast makes sense, but that could just be interpretation. Satan is very cunning that's painfully obvious and I think the Anti-Christ would love comments like, "He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ" "How could someone so religious be evil?" "If you have a problem with America you have a problem with me" (hehehe). If Bush isn't the Anti-Christ, I didn't like so what does it matter. If he is' I didn't like him so it still doesn't matter
He also gave my dog cancer and caused my grandfather to be stricken with Alzheimers.
Seriously though, the president has a very minimal effect on the economy.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I'm of the opinion that the anti christ will probably never be accused of being the anti christ until it's too late...So Bush, Ahmadinejad, and the rest of them, all fail their apocolypticness test.
I kind of agree here the antichrist will no doubt be greatly loved till the end when he/she reviels his true motives.
I'm of the opinion that the anti christ will probably never be accused of being the anti christ until it's too late...So Bush, Ahmadinejad, and the rest of them, all fail their apocolypticness test.
I kind of agree here the antichrist will no doubt be greatly loved till the end when he/she reviels his true motives.
That is kind of the way he's described in the New Testament. Bush sure as hell doesn't qualify, whatever one may feel about his policies.
Originally posted by Cochize
You know in some ways it does make sense (Oh, no I'm a terrorist now....). He took a fairly good economy that was growing and destoyed it.Actually, he's managed to reverse a recession that began in the Clinton rein. Take an economics class please. Then he lucked out with the 9/11 attacks. He has said many comments on how God is working through him."God bless America" doesn't mean that last time I checkedHe always refers to the terrorist as radical muslims, they are, but still he could say crazy-ass Middle Easterns.Um, your point? Are you trying to prove that he's more tolerant of other religions than you? The Jesus Camp kids were creepy, I saw the number thing used to predict 9/11 down to the smallest detail, so I think it's fake. In a symbolic term the image of the beast makes sense, but that could just be interpretation. Satan is very cunning that's painfully obvious and I think the Anti-Christ would love comments like, "He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ"judging by the quality of this post, he's smarter than you, somehow I don't think you're in a position to comment "How could someone so religious be evil?" "If you have a problem with America you have a problem with me" (hehehe). If Bush isn't the Anti-Christ, I didn't like so what does it matter. If he is' I didn't like him so it still doesn't matter
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
What you got tounderstand is that Emperor bush needwe an excuse to seize the iraqi oil for the use of Imperiall america so he got his CIA buddies to fabricate an excuse like he fabricated an excuse for invading afganistan to create oil PiPelines.
Iraqi Air Force General Georges Sada has stated that Saddam had WMDs and moved them to Syria in the run up to the invasion. Translated Saddam government documents indicate the same. Talk to Army sources in Iraq, not the Pentagon, and you will hear that Saddam had them.
What is more, it is undisputed that Saddam used one form of WMDs, nerve gas, against the Kurds, killing thousands; and Saddam intended to get more WMDs once he got clear of U.N. supervision, which he intended to do trhrough the Oil-For-Food scandal.
So, dont give me that poor excuse of Bush and his agendas. You would be crying if we did nothing and Saddam turned around and used them. Then it would be back to blaming Bush for not attacking. The man cant win against you bleeding heart liberals.
Did nothing? What are you talking about? We're doing nothing right now!!! Haven't you heard how easy it is to cross our southern border? What's Bush doing about that? Don't say he's doing the best for this country when he COMPLETELY ignores the borders allowing a way for terrorists to get into this country with no problem what so ever. That's just hypocritical at the least.
What you got tounderstand is that Emperor bush needwe an excuse to seize the iraqi oil for the use of Imperiall america so he got his CIA buddies to fabricate an excuse like he fabricated an excuse for invading afganistan to create oil PiPelines.
Iraqi Air Force General Georges Sada has stated that Saddam had WMDs and moved them to Syria in the run up to the invasion. Translated Saddam government documents indicate the same. Talk to Army sources in Iraq, not the Pentagon, and you will hear that Saddam had them.
What is more, it is undisputed that Saddam used one form of WMDs, nerve gas, against the Kurds, killing thousands; and Saddam intended to get more WMDs once he got clear of U.N. supervision, which he intended to do trhrough the Oil-For-Food scandal.
So, dont give me that poor excuse of Bush and his agendas. You would be crying if we did nothing and Saddam turned around and used them. Then it would be back to blaming Bush for not attacking. The man cant win against you bleeding heart liberals.
Did nothing? What are you talking about? We're doing nothing right now!!! Haven't you heard how easy it is to cross our southern border? What's Bush doing about that? Don't say he's doing the best for this country when he COMPLETELY ignores the borders allowing a way for terrorists to get into this country with no problem what so ever. That's just hypocritical at the least.
I'm surprised you have a problem with immigration in this country...I'm not saying that I disagree with you at all, I'm just surprised.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I'm of the opinion that the anti christ will probably never be accused of being the anti christ until it's too late...So Bush, Ahmadinejad, and the rest of them, all fail their apocolypticness test.
I kind of agree here the antichrist will no doubt be greatly loved till the end when he/she reviels his true motives.
That is kind of the way he's described in the New Testament. Bush sure as hell doesn't qualify, whatever one may feel about his policies.
Originally posted by Cochize
You know in some ways it does make sense (Oh, no I'm a terrorist now....). He took a fairly good economy that was growing and destoyed it.Actually, he's managed to reverse a recession that began in the Clinton rein. Take an economics class please. Then he lucked out with the 9/11 attacks. He has said many comments on how God is working through him."God bless America" doesn't mean that last time I checkedHe always refers to the terrorist as radical muslims, they are, but still he could say crazy-ass Middle Easterns.Um, your point? Are you trying to prove that he's more tolerant of other religions than you? The Jesus Camp kids were creepy, I saw the number thing used to predict 9/11 down to the smallest detail, so I think it's fake. In a symbolic term the image of the beast makes sense, but that could just be interpretation. Satan is very cunning that's painfully obvious and I think the Anti-Christ would love comments like, "He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ"judging by the quality of this post, he's smarter than you, somehow I don't think you're in a position to comment "How could someone so religious be evil?" "If you have a problem with America you have a problem with me" (hehehe). If Bush isn't the Anti-Christ, I didn't like so what does it matter. If he is' I didn't like him so it still doesn't matter
I'm glad to see that you take my post so presonally. I did just insult your idol didn't I? Maybe I should apologize for that.......
and.....What?! I never hinted anywhere that I had a problem with "God Bless America" or that I thought it helped Bush. What I said was that he has been documented as saying something to the effect of God told me to start this war on terror. That comment on radical Muslims was a JOKE, ever heard of those? or have you been so sheltered that the word damn makes you cringe? They really need a way for people to tell tone of voice on forums or they need a guide on how to understand sarcasm
I've always thought of Bush as more of a chimpanzee or orangutan by the way he talks and acts.
Outfctrl do you support Bush because its patriotic and he is the president and deserves respect no matter what? Do you think people who don't like Bush are unpatriotic and are borderline terrorists and need to be investigated? Or do you just like him because of his views?
It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party!
I support him for his honesty and his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country.
As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
You can enlist until you're 42. You dont look that old in your avatar pic. Go for it big guy.
Originally posted by albinofreak Originally posted by outfctrl Originally posted by Briansho Funny pics on the site.
I've always thought of Bush as more of a chimpanzee or orangutan by the way he talks and acts.
Outfctrl do you support Bush because its patriotic and he is the president and deserves respect no matter what? Do you think people who don't like Bush are unpatriotic and are borderline terrorists and need to be investigated? Or do you just like him because of his views?
It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party!
I support him for his honesty and his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country.
As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
You can enlist until you're 42. You dont look that old in your avatar pic. Go for it big guy.
I'll do it for him....outfctrl spent time in the military, and is well over the age of 42...sorry
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Originally posted by outfctrl It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party! I support him for his honesty and his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country. As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
Bad presidents happen to good people. Amid all the 9/11 anniversary talk about what will keep us safe, let me suggest that, in a world turned hostile to America, the smartest message we can send to those beyond our shores is, "We're not with stupid."
Therefore, I maintain that ridiculing this president is now the most patriotic thing you can possibly do. Let the word go forth to our allies and our enemies alike. Let them know that there's a whole swath of Americans desperate to distance themselves from George Bush. And that's just Republicans running for re-election.
Now, America is an easily misunderstood country these days. A lot of the time, it's hard to make out what we're saying over the bombs we're dropping. But the world needs to know that most Americans don't think that putting a boot in your ass is the way to solve problems. Because even allowing that my foot lodged in your ass would feel good, which I don'twhat then? Okay, my boot is in your ass, but I can't get it out, so I'm not happy. And it's in you, so you're not happy. There's no exit strategy.
If I could explain one thing about George Bush to the rest of the world, it's this: we don't know what the fuck he's saying either! Trust me, there's nothing lost in translation! It's just as incoherent in the original English. George Bush just turned out to be one of those things that's very popular for a few years, and then almost overnight becomes completely embarrassing. Like leg-warmers or white people going, "Oh, no, you di-n't." Or invading Iraq.
Honestly, maybe the reason they haven't attacked us again is they figure we're already suffering enough. No, it pains me to say these things because I know, deep down, George Bush has something extra. A chromosome. Wait, wait, wait. I did that on purpose. Was it cruel? Maybe. But it saved lives, dammit!
Because by doing the "extra chromosome" joke, I sent a message to a young Muslim somewhere in the world who is on a slow-burn about this country, and perhaps got him to think, "Huh, maybe the people of America aren't so bad. Maybe it's just that rodeo clown who leads them." "Maybe the people get it!" We do, Ahmed, we do!!
So, while honoring the anniversary of September, 2001, we must also never forget January, 2000. That's when then governor George Bush said, "I know how hard it is to put food on your family." The world changed on 9/11...He didn't. That's why we owe it to ourselves and to our children to never stop pointing out that George W. Bush is a gruesome boob.
The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.
It is not propaganda! Bush is committed to the vision that the only long term answer to the powder keg of the Middle East is to clear the scene of tyrants and allow the people there to grow decent, lawful and have representative governments. For his courageous stand on "other" people's freedoms, not just that of Americans, President Bush is among our greatest presidents.
Most of you people have Iraqnophobia...the pathological loathing and fear of victory in Iraq. What the heck is wrong with you liberals? All you do is quit and surrender to the enemy. In over 60 years, the Democrats have not won any wars (lost one and tied one), while the Republicans have NEVER lost one, 5 wins 0 losses). If you don’t call Harry Reid’s statement as giving hope to the terrorists, then I don’t know what. These Surrender-o-crats make me sick. If you’re a yellow bellied coward, then you’re not an American. Move to Fr**ce. Have you looked at Israel today? Its a democracy, as a matter of fact the only democracy in the Middle East.
It is not propaganda! Bush is committed to the vision that the only long term answer to the powder keg of the Middle East is to clear the scene of tyrants and allow the people there to grow decent, lawful and have representative governments. For his courageous stand on "other" people's freedoms, not just that of Americans, President Bush is among our greatest presidents.
Most of you people have Iraqnophobia...the pathological loathing and fear of victory in Iraq. What the heck is wrong with you liberals? All you do is quit and surrender to the enemy. In over 60 years, the Democrats have not won any wars (lost one and tied one), while the Republicans have NEVER lost one, 5 wins 0 losses). If you don’t call Harry Reid’s statement as giving hope to the terrorists, then I don’t know what. These Surrender-o-crats make me sick. If you’re a yellow bellied coward, then you’re not an American. Move to Fr**ce. Have you looked at Israel today? Its a democracy, as a matter of fact the only democracy in the Middle East.
He's counting as two when Reagan knocked off Panama and Grenada. These were touch and go wars that took a great man to pull out of the fire. A third that he's counting is when Geoprge Herbert Walker Bush won the first war with Iraq so decisicevely that there became no need for a second war with Iraq. The fourth is Richard Nixon winning the war in Vietnam, you remember, he declared victory turned the war over to the S Vietnamese forces, and brought the boys home. The fifth victory was either Korea, or when Gerald Ford successfully invaded the wrong island in Cambodia, or When Reagan won the war in Lebanon and brought the marines home, or when George "Dubya" Bush posted the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier to wrap up the second Iraq war.
In contrast, the Democrats can only claim WW 2 as a successful resolution.
This is the kind of stuff you get from a political party that believes draining swamp land in Iraq should qualify for a Nobel Peace Price as a great accomplishment. Not that I'm saying that this President consistently sets the bar low, and fails to achieve it, mind you.......
He's counting as two when Reagan knocked off Panama and Grenada. These were touch and go wars that took a great man to pull out of the fire. A third that he's counting is when Geoprge Herbert Walker Bush won the first war with Iraq so decisicevely that there became no need for a second war with Iraq. The fourth is Richard Nixon winning the war in Vietnam, you remember, he declared victory turned the war over to the S Vietnamese forces, and brought the boys home. The fifth victory was either Korea, or when Gerald Ford successfully invaded the wrong island in Cambodia, or When Reagan won the war in Lebanon and brought the marines home, or when George "Dubya" Bush posted the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier to wrap up the second Iraq war. In contrast, the Democrats can only claim WW 2 as a successful resolution. This is the kind of stuff you get from a political party that believes draining swamp land in Iraq should qualify for a Nobel Peace Price as a great accomplishment. Not that I'm saying that this President consistently sets the bar low, and fails to achieve it, mind you.......
This is the kind of stuff you get from a political party that believes draining swamp land in Iraq should qualify for a Nobel Peace Price as a great accomplishment. Not that I'm saying that this President consistently sets the bar low, and fails to achieve it, mind you.......
For all the panic in our country over the Iraq War, the Sunni Arabs are losing:
The main battle with the terrorists has moved to the Baghdad suburbs, and that's where most of the terrorism, and fighting is taking place. Being forced, by the "surge" campaign, to flee Baghdad, the terrorists have gotten sloppy and left more evidence of their presence, and this has led to more terrorists getting captured.
This, in turn has led to more bomb factories and weapons caches being found. American military commanders believe another six months of this hammering, along with an Iraqi government making deals with Sunni Arab groups, to bring them into the government, will leave the terrorists with no place to hide, or just some very small places, that can be isolated from the rest of the country.
This war will be won as long as the surrendercrats keep their mouths shut and back the President.
This is the kind of stuff you get from a political party that believes draining swamp land in Iraq should qualify for a Nobel Peace Price as a great accomplishment. Not that I'm saying that this President consistently sets the bar low, and fails to achieve it, mind you.......
For all the panic in our country over the Iraq War, the Sunni Arabs are losing:
The main battle with the terrorists has moved to the Baghdad suburbs, and that's where most of the terrorism, and fighting is taking place. Being forced, by the "surge" campaign, to flee Baghdad, the terrorists have gotten sloppy and left more evidence of their presence, and this has led to more terrorists getting captured.
This, in turn has led to more bomb factories and weapons caches being found. American military commanders believe another six months of this hammering, along with an Iraqi government making deals with Sunni Arab groups, to bring them into the government, will leave the terrorists with no place to hide, or just some very small places, that can be isolated from the rest of the country.
This war will be won as long as the surrendercrats keep their mouths shut and back the President.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
So, you see, all is not lost, contary to what most of you think. We must stick this out. Not cut and run.
There is light at the end of the tunnel, but if we claim we have lost this war and that we are fighting for nothing, our troops morale will drop. I am not saying its really high right now, but we have to support our president and we have to support our troops 100%.
We have to stop bitching and claiming this another Vietnam. We have to stop saying this war is lost. We have to have the one thing most of you do not have and that is.................. hope.
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It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party!
I support him for his honesty and his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country.
As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
Weapons of Mass destruction + Iraq.'nuff said.
What you got tounderstand is that Emperor bush needwe an excuse to seize the iraqi oil for the use of Imperiall america so he got his CIA buddies to fabricate an excuse like he fabricated an excuse for invading afganistan to create oil PiPelines.
Becasue what we did in afganistan was so horrible Woman can now get an education *GASP* the horror and men can look at internet porn now woohoo. on a serious note i mean come on everyone wants to aoutomaticly think the worst og us when we do anything. woman in that country were so persacuted (sp) in that country it wasnt funney. if i remember right they could be killed for trying to learn to read.
And the iraq's were such good people before we went in. they will strap bombs to their own children and sacrifce them Never happened . They are cutting the heards off relief workers who are just there to help them Never happened. they arent even soilders. So yea we are so evil for trying to put a tyranical government out of power and trying to free a prople. Ok yea it took a terrorist attack on our soil to get us to move but oh well
If iraq can bechanged then the world will be better for everyone including those living in iraq.
Non of that ever happend in Iraq before yuo destroyed the country now its filled with Terrorists because you ahd no Exit stratagy DiD you. Heh you thought the Iraq people would welcome you with open arms and all love you.....How wrong that turned out to be.
Now i did post out of well boredom just now but this i want to reply to.The so called freedom for others you claim bush is after maybe works in america but in a lot of other countries across the world the viewpoint on this is verry different.
The invasion in iraq btw is not about victory on the battlefield.It is about the fact that the people from iraq should have a better life previous to what they did have.Now i am not saying they had a nice time with saddam but if the majority of people are now off worse then previous then i start to have my doubts about what you call victory or loss.Also the reasons given for the invasion where total bs.No weapons of mass destruction where found.Again not saying that saddam was any good but starting a war over a lie is just as bad.
Daddy made a mess and didn't clean up so now george wanted to do it for daddy's sake.So far he failed and i doubt if this war will be a succes if you measure it through the succes-standards i just gave.That's what i think of it..not knwoing if it's right offcourse since i can not know all the facts as none of us can.
I think george bush is verry bas for the usa for the simple reason that he made the usa verry onpopular in foreign countries.Wich is what will get the terrorist threat on an even higher level then before.He claimed he would kill the threat but i think he made it even worse.And that i find verry sad for both the peoplein the usa as other western countries who stood beside the usa through all of this.
Last you talk about the gun powder in the middle east and that bush want the people there to live a decent life.Then why does he keep supporting israel by far over palestine?You claim israel is the only reall democracy in middle east.Well not to my standards.My guess is you know how israel was "founded".You probably also know then that all the traffic in and out of palestine is being handled by israel and that palestinian people can't even fart without israel giving them promision?Now don't say this is because the terrosrist threat because it is the other way around.The threat is there because of the oppresion.But somehow this type of oppresion is allowed and saddam's oppresion isn't.Yeah that sounds like reall high standard democratic policies to me.
I don't want to offend anyone , also not the person i quoted but i know a lot of people will agree with me on some points i made here.
Bush is not getting the powder keg away in the middle east...he is handing out the fire to light it and my only fear is that if he keeps on the path he's on for all of his office-years now it will be to late to really change the idea/mentallity people in the middle east have about the west.
But just my2cents....
Propaganda is a type of message aimed at influencing the opinions or behavior of people. Often, instead of impartially providing information, propaganda can be deliberately misleading, or using fallacies, which, while sometimes convincing, are not necessarily valid.
Get it? You're spewing propaganda and doing little effort to conceil it. American generals have said there is little or no realistic (if there is one at all) long-term vision for the middle east. And Bush certainly doesn't have one. Stop insulting Americas presidents. I'm not an American citizen and even I feel insulted because of the constant comparison between Bush and great Presidents like Lincoln and Kennedy.
Also, stop calling people liberals. In many countries it's not an insult. So that won't work. In many European countries liberalism is an almost forgotten right wing ideology and libertarianism is mostly considered to be foolish.
You can't win a war against terrorism if you don't have the public opinion and if you use conventional tactics. Unlike popular believe among people like you, terrorism isn't a movement like communism, but a military tactic. Fighting terrorism is like saying you're gonna fight carpet bombings or the echelon formation. It's absurd.
Saddam was an asshole, yes. He didn't harbor any WOMD, he didn't have the resources to make any and the UN did quite a good job at disrupting his pathetic attempts to get any. Saddam was threatened inside his country, among his enemies was Al-Qaeda. Saddam and Al-Qaeda had distinctly different ideologies. The Republican guard was actively hunting down Al-Qaeda. This is backed by genuine CIA reports.
The proof presented by the Bush administration about there being WOMD was false. They were lies. Untrue. In short, they said something to the American people that wasn't true. If that's not undemocratic, I dunno anymore...
If there were to be a war in Iraq then it should have been in a UN framework with international support. There should have been a plan for rebuilding Iraq and the occupying forces shouldn't have been American. We all know that. Millions of people knew that back in 2003, and hundreds of military specialists in the US knew that. You think your country is militarily inadequate?
Now there is a situation where hundreds of small groups in Iraq do anything to make a living, secure their neighbourhood, advance the goals of their factions, ... And many of them do it with weapons. Not to mention the tens of thousands that oppose the occupying forces.
You should've sticked to Afghanistan and cleared that country. That was a just war. In as far as wars can be just...
You must have lost your touch if I can blow your radical, unnuanciated, insulting (not to me tho, apart from the presidents part), unconstructive propaganda away with so much ease.
Please go waste someone else bandwith.
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Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
He also gave my dog cancer and caused my grandfather to be stricken with Alzheimers.
Seriously though, the president has a very minimal effect on the economy.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
That is kind of the way he's described in the New Testament. Bush sure as hell doesn't qualify, whatever one may feel about his policies.
Originally posted by Cochize
You know in some ways it does make sense (Oh, no I'm a terrorist now....). He took a fairly good economy that was growing and destoyed it. Actually, he's managed to reverse a recession that began in the Clinton rein. Take an economics class please. Then he lucked out with the 9/11 attacks. He has said many comments on how God is working through him. "God bless America" doesn't mean that last time I checked He always refers to the terrorist as radical muslims, they are, but still he could say crazy-ass Middle Easterns. Um, your point? Are you trying to prove that he's more tolerant of other religions than you? The Jesus Camp kids were creepy, I saw the number thing used to predict 9/11 down to the smallest detail, so I think it's fake. In a symbolic term the image of the beast makes sense, but that could just be interpretation. Satan is very cunning that's painfully obvious and I think the Anti-Christ would love comments like, "He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ" judging by the quality of this post, he's smarter than you, somehow I don't think you're in a position to comment "How could someone so religious be evil?" "If you have a problem with America you have a problem with me" (hehehe). If Bush isn't the Anti-Christ, I didn't like so what does it matter. If he is' I didn't like him so it still doesn't matter
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Iraqi Air Force General Georges Sada has stated that Saddam had WMDs and moved them to Syria in the run up to the invasion. Translated Saddam government documents indicate the same. Talk to Army sources in Iraq, not the Pentagon, and you will hear that Saddam had them.
What is more, it is undisputed that Saddam used one form of WMDs, nerve gas, against the Kurds, killing thousands; and Saddam intended to get more WMDs once he got clear of U.N. supervision, which he intended to do trhrough the Oil-For-Food scandal.
So, dont give me that poor excuse of Bush and his agendas. You would be crying if we did nothing and Saddam turned around and used them. Then it would be back to blaming Bush for not attacking. The man cant win against you bleeding heart liberals.
Did nothing? What are you talking about? We're doing nothing right now!!! Haven't you heard how easy it is to cross our southern border? What's Bush doing about that? Don't say he's doing the best for this country when he COMPLETELY ignores the borders allowing a way for terrorists to get into this country with no problem what so ever. That's just hypocritical at the least.===============================
Iraqi Air Force General Georges Sada has stated that Saddam had WMDs and moved them to Syria in the run up to the invasion. Translated Saddam government documents indicate the same. Talk to Army sources in Iraq, not the Pentagon, and you will hear that Saddam had them.
What is more, it is undisputed that Saddam used one form of WMDs, nerve gas, against the Kurds, killing thousands; and Saddam intended to get more WMDs once he got clear of U.N. supervision, which he intended to do trhrough the Oil-For-Food scandal.
So, dont give me that poor excuse of Bush and his agendas. You would be crying if we did nothing and Saddam turned around and used them. Then it would be back to blaming Bush for not attacking. The man cant win against you bleeding heart liberals.
Did nothing? What are you talking about? We're doing nothing right now!!! Haven't you heard how easy it is to cross our southern border? What's Bush doing about that? Don't say he's doing the best for this country when he COMPLETELY ignores the borders allowing a way for terrorists to get into this country with no problem what so ever. That's just hypocritical at the least.I'm surprised you have a problem with immigration in this country...I'm not saying that I disagree with you at all, I'm just surprised.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
That is kind of the way he's described in the New Testament. Bush sure as hell doesn't qualify, whatever one may feel about his policies.
Originally posted by Cochize
You know in some ways it does make sense (Oh, no I'm a terrorist now....). He took a fairly good economy that was growing and destoyed it. Actually, he's managed to reverse a recession that began in the Clinton rein. Take an economics class please. Then he lucked out with the 9/11 attacks. He has said many comments on how God is working through him. "God bless America" doesn't mean that last time I checked He always refers to the terrorist as radical muslims, they are, but still he could say crazy-ass Middle Easterns. Um, your point? Are you trying to prove that he's more tolerant of other religions than you? The Jesus Camp kids were creepy, I saw the number thing used to predict 9/11 down to the smallest detail, so I think it's fake. In a symbolic term the image of the beast makes sense, but that could just be interpretation. Satan is very cunning that's painfully obvious and I think the Anti-Christ would love comments like, "He's not smart enough to be the Anti-Christ" judging by the quality of this post, he's smarter than you, somehow I don't think you're in a position to comment "How could someone so religious be evil?" "If you have a problem with America you have a problem with me" (hehehe). If Bush isn't the Anti-Christ, I didn't like so what does it matter. If he is' I didn't like him so it still doesn't matter
I'm glad to see that you take my post so presonally. I did just insult your idol didn't I? Maybe I should apologize for that.......
and.....What?! I never hinted anywhere that I had a problem with "God Bless America" or that I thought it helped Bush. What I said was that he has been documented as saying something to the effect of God told me to start this war on terror. That comment on radical Muslims was a JOKE, ever heard of those? or have you been so sheltered that the word damn makes you cringe? They really need a way for people to tell tone of voice on forums or they need a guide on how to understand sarcasm
It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party!
I support him for his honesty and his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country.
As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
You can enlist until you're 42. You dont look that old in your avatar pic. Go for it big guy.
It is ashame the way some Americans are such short minded as to have already forgotten about the tragic day of September 11, 2001. Our country is at war for our children's future but there are those who have already forgotten and want it to be like it was on September 10, 2001. We will never be the same country after that day and I believe there is only one person and one party that will make this a safier country & future for our children. George Bush and the Republican Party!
I support him for his honesty and his approach to securing the country and carrying the fight to the enemy. He has the courage to confront reality and fullfill his primsary duty as Commander In Chief of defending the country.
As far as people who dont support him? That is their perogative. This is a free country and you have the right to your views. I dont condone in name calling or disrespect. He is our president whether you like it or not and he deserves the respect of all. If I were younger and able, I would be in Iraq right now.
You can enlist until you're 42. You dont look that old in your avatar pic. Go for it big guy.
I'll do it for him....outfctrl spent time in the military, and is well over the age of 42...sorry
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I thought the military was calling up people through the backdoor draft who were over 50? I found this www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/03/60minutes/main658994.shtml looking real quick, and they mentioned one female soldier who was 55.
But anyway my apologies, he just doesnt look that old to me.
Bad presidents happen to good people. Amid all the 9/11 anniversary talk about what will keep us safe, let me suggest that, in a world turned hostile to America, the smartest message we can send to those beyond our shores is, "We're not with stupid."
Therefore, I maintain that ridiculing this president is now the most patriotic thing you can possibly do. Let the word go forth to our allies and our enemies alike. Let them know that there's a whole swath of Americans desperate to distance themselves from George Bush. And that's just Republicans running for re-election.
Now, America is an easily misunderstood country these days. A lot of the time, it's hard to make out what we're saying over the bombs we're dropping. But the world needs to know that most Americans don't think that putting a boot in your ass is the way to solve problems. Because even allowing that my foot lodged in your ass would feel good, which I don'twhat then? Okay, my boot is in your ass, but I can't get it out, so I'm not happy. And it's in you, so you're not happy. There's no exit strategy.
If I could explain one thing about George Bush to the rest of the world, it's this: we don't know what the fuck he's saying either! Trust me, there's nothing lost in translation! It's just as incoherent in the original English. George Bush just turned out to be one of those things that's very popular for a few years, and then almost overnight becomes completely embarrassing. Like leg-warmers or white people going, "Oh, no, you di-n't." Or invading Iraq.
Honestly, maybe the reason they haven't attacked us again is they figure we're already suffering enough. No, it pains me to say these things because I know, deep down, George Bush has something extra. A chromosome. Wait, wait, wait. I did that on purpose. Was it cruel? Maybe. But it saved lives, dammit!
Because by doing the "extra chromosome" joke, I sent a message to a young Muslim somewhere in the world who is on a slow-burn about this country, and perhaps got him to think, "Huh, maybe the people of America aren't so bad. Maybe it's just that rodeo clown who leads them." "Maybe the people get it!" We do, Ahmed, we do!!
So, while honoring the anniversary of September, 2001, we must also never forget January, 2000. That's when then governor George Bush said, "I know how hard it is to put food on your family." The world changed on 9/11...He didn't. That's why we owe it to ourselves and to our children to never stop pointing out that George W. Bush is a gruesome boob.
The most important part of reading is reading between the lines.
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5 wars won?
i know only 1...against mexico
even independence war was won by french^^
propaganda books and media ftw in USA
http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1701462.ece
lmao
5 wars won?
i know only 1...against mexico
even independence war was won by french^^
propaganda books and media ftw in USA
http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article1701462.ece
He's counting as two when Reagan knocked off Panama and Grenada. These were touch and go wars that took a great man to pull out of the fire. A third that he's counting is when Geoprge Herbert Walker Bush won the first war with Iraq so decisicevely that there became no need for a second war with Iraq. The fourth is Richard Nixon winning the war in Vietnam, you remember, he declared victory turned the war over to the S Vietnamese forces, and brought the boys home. The fifth victory was either Korea, or when Gerald Ford successfully invaded the wrong island in Cambodia, or When Reagan won the war in Lebanon and brought the marines home, or when George "Dubya" Bush posted the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier to wrap up the second Iraq war.
In contrast, the Democrats can only claim WW 2 as a successful resolution.
This is the kind of stuff you get from a political party that believes draining swamp land in Iraq should qualify for a Nobel Peace Price as a great accomplishment. Not that I'm saying that this President consistently sets the bar low, and fails to achieve it, mind you.......
WTFLOL you are my here that was Damn funny
For all the panic in our country over the Iraq War, the Sunni Arabs are losing:
The main battle with the terrorists has moved to the Baghdad suburbs, and that's where most of the terrorism, and fighting is taking place. Being forced, by the "surge" campaign, to flee Baghdad, the terrorists have gotten sloppy and left more evidence of their presence, and this has led to more terrorists getting captured.
This, in turn has led to more bomb factories and weapons caches being found. American military commanders believe another six months of this hammering, along with an Iraqi government making deals with Sunni Arab groups, to bring them into the government, will leave the terrorists with no place to hide, or just some very small places, that can be isolated from the rest of the country.
This war will be won as long as the surrendercrats keep their mouths shut and back the President.
For all the panic in our country over the Iraq War, the Sunni Arabs are losing:
The main battle with the terrorists has moved to the Baghdad suburbs, and that's where most of the terrorism, and fighting is taking place. Being forced, by the "surge" campaign, to flee Baghdad, the terrorists have gotten sloppy and left more evidence of their presence, and this has led to more terrorists getting captured.
This, in turn has led to more bomb factories and weapons caches being found. American military commanders believe another six months of this hammering, along with an Iraqi government making deals with Sunni Arab groups, to bring them into the government, will leave the terrorists with no place to hide, or just some very small places, that can be isolated from the rest of the country.
This war will be won as long as the surrendercrats keep their mouths shut and back the President.
Interesting website.www.strategypage.com/qnd/iraq/articles/20070418.aspx
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Thats right. It is interesting
So, you see, all is not lost, contary to what most of you think. We must stick this out. Not cut and run.
There is light at the end of the tunnel, but if we claim we have lost this war and that we are fighting for nothing, our troops morale will drop. I am not saying its really high right now, but we have to support our president and we have to support our troops 100%.
We have to stop bitching and claiming this another Vietnam. We have to stop saying this war is lost. We have to have the one thing most of you do not have and that is.................. hope.