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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979
    Originally posted by Wobblebob


    Quote: "There has yet to be an MMO that gives you XP for Dancing."
    Dance Online gives you XP for dancing.



    So did SWG, but I'm sure that's already been said.

     

     

  • AdythielAdythiel Member Posts: 726
    Originally posted by elvenangel


     2.  yea for some reason i dont understand it myself but they do like looking at that pixelated ass. 
    I can answer this one for you. Men are extremely visual. This is also the reason why the majority of porn on the Internet is targeted towards the male side. Also, the advertisements for most of the  matchmaking services such as true.com show pictures of beautiful women. I think I have yet to see a female targeted one with the picture of a man on it. That just could be because I don't really browse any female oriented sites so I don't see those advertisements. Even if something is just a bunch of pixels, men still like to look at it if it's pleasing to the eye. It's just kind of how our brain works.

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  • shozikushoziku Member UncommonPosts: 95

    I disagree with many parts of the article itself, mostly because it seemed the only experience with MMO's was based on WoW. The female avatars in WoW are hardly even female as it is. They all have these Olive Oyl rubber band arms that can only be sexy to other cartoon characters. Males who enjoy playing sexy female avatars will not choose WoW as their game.

    Also, the article made it seem like females have an edge when it comes to freebies. This may have been the case many years ago but nowadays females really don't get a whole lot of special favors any more due to the enlightenment in the past 5 years that any girl can be a dude. This article is at least 5-10 years old in its accuracy.

    And another inaccuracy... There IS an MMO where you gain experience for dancing. A quite popular and successful one too. I'm sure most of our readers caught that too. I'm not gonna say which one because to the tens of thousands of players who played it, it's pretty obvious.

    I've played with some very close friends for over a year and the whole time they were convinced I was a female. And not because I'm feminine, but because my character was. She wasn't flirty or trashy, just bubbly, fun and happy. I broke a lot of hearts of men that truly thought I was female. They never even thought to ask me, and if they did, I would have told them the truth, but the subject never even came up. I've played 3 long term games now and in all 3 it took over a year for my friends to even care what my sex was. they just assumed I was female.

  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270

    What's funny about these responses is first, the number of guys who admit they have female characters, on occasion I do to but I give them obvious names (like TimeDrag) and role play smoking a cigar while lighting a match of my "leg beard". I usually make the females after running through all the male alterations a game offers, I like playing every race and class type and having them all look the same just has no immagination. You did kind of mess up on one point with the names part, usually guys who are out to use other guys have sex based names, actually IRL I would use another term for the names but it'd get my post deleted, toss in some 69's and you got a faker.

    The second amusing aspect is all the girls who get offended about how females get treated, the article isn't about real girls ladies, it's about guys acting out the fantasies of little boys who've never gotten any. Of course they get treated differently, you're not out there slinging it around like a tramp so of course you're not being followed by a bunch of drooling virgin sycophants. The article is actually exposing the very people who (in the author's view) make all female players look bad.

    There is another side of this coin too, I've seen females RP guys as well (and usually better than the female fakers, though sometimes a bit too much scratching). Some do it because they want to see how guys treat guys, one young lady did it because she wanted to see if her boyfriend was cheating on her thinking he would admit it to another guy where he wouldn't tell a female toon. She only fessed up to me after I threatened her male toon for talking about her real female char in a derogatory manner (again stuff I can't print here).

    The worst side of the female fakers though wasn't included in this article, that's those freaks who like to play female to cyber little boys. I've seen a number of them, one guy who was older than me (I'm 49) RPing a teenage girl to entice teenage boys, and even try meeting with them. I wont say how he was caught since I don't want to compromise any investigations but if a girl is too willing and sleasy it's a good chance she's a he. We also caught a 12 year old boy doing the same thing, needless to say his father was very surprised to hear that he had a daughter when the sysop called his house... (don't need to take that picture much further than that). Just watch who you're dealing with and who you send those "intimate" pictures too, or you may wind up the next big thing on some freak perv site.

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  • drizzt1666drizzt1666 Member Posts: 62
    Im using female char almost in every game, though im a strickt men

    Reason: If i know that i will spend countles hours in front of my pc, then i want see a females bottom instead of a male



    In Silkroad i choosed a short and cute kitty holding a big bad blade. Reason: pure fun seeing a little girl with a big blade killing monsters 3-4x bigger then me.

    In Anarhcy i used to play female chars. Reason: Im a fashion freak. And i always played like wearing cool stuffs is much more fun then pwnig like a l33t even if i will die becouse of this. In AO you can wear social armors, which are look extremly hot and nice (swimm suits, sunglasses, all kinds of fashionable clothes)



    And though i always played female chars i never begged for anyone for money or loot and gears.
  • crazyass223crazyass223 Member Posts: 15
    It's very funny how many people,  will fall for it, its a huge mental thing.



    I remember when i was so sucked into girls, i would give them everything i had. I would power level them, give them money, items you name it. Especially the cash shop items -.-'



    Then came a time when i met a real girl, who actually plays mmo's and which now i have been with for two years and live with proudly.



    I learned from her that most girls in game are not the usual "girl" players you would normally think.



    There is still a mass amount of real females out there.

    You can tell once you meet a real girl gamer, and see what differences are, As explained in the article.



    I love how the Mind works for allot of people, one reason why mmo's are fun, not only will it be fun most of the time, it is a mental challenge.



    I also noticed real girls will Help guys out as well instead the "fake girls" getting helped by other guys ^.^



    Thanks for that article by far the greatest i liked, especially since there is still guys out there being suckered.

    Joshua

    -Joshua

  • lancelot76lancelot76 Member Posts: 119
    Well, just spent about 4 minutes reading the article. That's 4 wasted minutes of my life I can never get back...
  • CleaClea Member Posts: 21

    EDIT: I'm too Dee Dee Dee to be able to delete this, sorry.

    Dee Dee Dee!

  • evilastroevilastro Member Posts: 4,270

    Urgh all the bigotry and homophobia on these boards makes me sick. Theres a valuable lesson to be learnt here: Next time you think having sex with a sibling is a great idea, use a condom. Spare the world a few morons.

  • CleaClea Member Posts: 21

    There is something else that has come to mind.  I don't have a problem with a male playing female avatar, or even with a female playing a male avatar, I don't even care why they do it, if they like watching a avatar of the oppisite sex (though I personaly believe that from my experince, the male avatars aren't really that great looking) or because they like the armor selection better, or for RP reasons. 

    What I really don't like is when someone who is not a newbie (or new to the game), someone who knows what their doing, and probably has a high level toon, capable of doing grinding of their own, either male or female, acts like they don't know what there doing, just to get free stuff for their low level toon.  That is what I find wrong. 

    So if some guy, who is new to the game, thinks he needs to play a female avatar, and act like a female in RL, just to get more help, which I am not denying is most likely true, while decifing if still wrong in mine mind, that is their choose, but I think it's wrong to act like you need the help, when you know you don't. 

    I don't want to be decifed by anyone, male or female.

    Dee Dee Dee!

  • natuxatunatuxatu Member UncommonPosts: 1,364
    Yeah I'm guy and always have played as male... I don't care if guys play as girls but for me I don't want to have to lie and/or correct everyone every single time.. it'd just be a pain for me. That said I always try and play the cute race and ususally play a supporting party profession.. white mage, monk, ritualist, bard, ect..

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  • divinaredivinare Member Posts: 7

    Sexist article imho.



    I’ been online gaming since the BBS era back in the 1980s. I’ve seen no difference between male and female.

     

    Voice over IP has been around for nearly a decade now, and is practically a requirement for good groups.
  • DreggerDregger Member Posts: 8

    The author points out a very important issue, namely the sexism in games, however the author seems to step in its own trap.

    I almost always play female avatars. And I'm male. Dunno why. Be it to break gender stereotypes, gender oriented issues or just plain that I don't like male avatars. The author seems to put that as a problem. Are one supposed to play the sex you have in real life? Aren't you allowed to play your opposite gender? The problem is NOT that the "pretty elf maiden" you're trying to help out is an elf lord in disguise. The problem is that people are being treated after what gender they have. In fact, the problem is that females are supposed to be "pretty maidens" treated as damsels in distress and males lords with big muscles and fat armor.

     I find it very tedious when people overplay the gender, as in WoW's DArk Elf dance. Why does women always need to be sexualized and objectified? Just look at the armor. Male armor are bulky and cover the whole body. The female equivalent hardly covers the nipples, but still is supposed to be called "heavy" armor at some times?

    Another thing that bothers me is that some people get angry when they find out that I'm a male playing female. First they believe I'm queer. Well, wouldn't have a problem with that, but they mean it in a bad way unfortunately. The majority of games are very heteronormative and the community is very hostile against homosexuality in general. Another reason why they get mad is that they feel I've tricked them. But why do they need to treat females different then males? Are females more in need of free loot more than males? No. Am I exploiting the unwritten gender codes by playing an avatar with opposite gender? No, it's not my fault they try to be "chivalrous". For me, chivalry is just another act of sexism.

    As the author points out, some play avatars just to get free stuff from others, exploiting the sexist ideals that some people seem to live by. Well, boo hoo, but I think they deserve it, treating females as lesser beings...

     

  • DreggerDregger Member Posts: 8

    Edit: where do I delete this?

  • TrykenTryken Ultima Online CorrespondentMember Posts: 63
    Correction: Star Wars Galaxies you could gain XP from dancing. =P
  • DeadyDeady Member Posts: 9

    Presume everyone is male until you hear otherwise on teamspeak.  Everyone wins with this solution, as women can avoid the "special treatment" and you don't chat up a guy.

  • DrakonusDrakonus Member Posts: 135
    Originally posted by Deady


    Presume everyone is male until you hear otherwise on teamspeak.  Everyone wins with this solution, as women can avoid the "special treatment" and you don't chat up a guy.
    LOL...good idea, best I've heard yet.  I do that anyway, but finally someone said it...LOL.

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  • SinkaelSinkael Member UncommonPosts: 68
    You know what bothers me the most about this article?



    The fact that the author will be praised for such a poor editorial, she will be rewarded by the MMORPG.com staff because of the massive response the article has garnered. This is a terrible act, it will promote more articles with half facts and full out fallacies. My understanding is that MMORPG.com was a news sites, I assumed it would follow some traditional journalistic standards, such as fact checking the accuracy of posted articles. However, the more articles I read the more I have come to the conclusion that MMORPG.com is not much more then a fancy blog willing to post any opinion as fact as long as it is written at a high school level of comprehension.



    I challenge you, MMORPG.com, to raise your standards and start screening your writers and at the very least do some basic fact checking and start labeling editorials, such as this one, as opinion pieces.
  • energydrainenergydrain Member Posts: 52

    oh sick guide, really..very nice techniques for spotting fakes (even though me and a few friends made a guide like this a few years back and it was about the same)..i skimmed through the previous parts..and didn't see a poll...so...

     

    Edit: argh I pressed "Enter" by accident" and sent the poll before I was done

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  • DarthusDarthus Member UncommonPosts: 11
    Originally posted by Sinkael

    You know what bothers me the most about this article?



    The fact that the author will be praised for such a poor editorial, she will be rewarded by the MMORPG.com staff because of the massive response the article has garnered. This is a terrible act, it will promote more articles with half facts and full out fallacies. My understanding is that MMORPG.com was a news sites, I assumed it would follow some traditional journalistic standards, such as fact checking the accuracy of posted articles. However, the more articles I read the more I have come to the conclusion that MMORPG.com is not much more then a fancy blog willing to post any opinion as fact as long as it is written at a high school level of comprehension.



    I challenge you, MMORPG.com, to raise your standards and start screening your writers and at the very least do some basic fact checking and start labeling editorials, such as this one, as opinion pieces.
    I would like to point out that you're somewhat contradicting yourself. You say that this is such a poor editorial. Here is the definition of an editorial:



    1. an article in a newspaper or other periodical presenting the opinion of the publisher, editor, or editors.



    You then proceed to bash the piece for not being factual or "accurate" enough for you. It's obviously a tongue in cheek opinion piece. There may be pieces of info in there that someone could use to actually spot a faker on an MMO. That is beside the point. It was posted as an entertaining piece of feature content, and from all accounts on here (and the almost 200 comments) it did exactly that. If someone took this as a GameFaqs.com factual guide, I believe that is their own fallacy.



    I challenge you to relax a bit, enjoy a fun piece of writing on an interesting topic and move on with your life.
  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    I have a friend who plays a lot of Guild Wars.

    He and his little gang of mates love it.

     

    Micky, however plays a woman.

     

    Since we have all known eachother for decades, I always ask him why he doesn't use teamspeak. Save on the typing

    He maintains that no one knows he is a bloke. And that he will only join TS if I can find him a voice synthesiser so that he can sound like a woman.

    Which is quite bizare since he doesn't use one on the phone to us. Or dress like a woman when we all play together in the same room.

     

     

     

    I'm sexist. I prefer to play with girls.

    I like girly girls. Pink knickers and all the rest. Mostly I find geezerwomen easy to spot. but some still manage to fool me. The other girls are pretty good at outting ringers. In the end if the person telling me about their bondage fantasies turns out to be a bloke, (one did and even came to visit me 6 months later when it turned out he worked in the area)....I don't think it matters too much.

    Kinky talk and webcam voyeurism is about as far as I am willing to go anyway. Not much chance of anyone getting pregnant.

     

    My ultimate nightmare is when the girl who I am stalking turns out to be 15. Frankly I'm more comfortable chatting up a fat bloke.

  • I've always played female characters, from as long as I can remember and I'm a pretty manly man. Truth to be told it's simply for the fact that if I'm going to be staring at something/someone for extended periods of time, I'm sorry but I'd much rather look at a woman then some uber juiced up guy.



    It's just a preference, a personal one, neither masogonistic nor secretly transvestite.



    Frankly, I feel for the genuinely female gamers of our community because I don't think they have it well off at all. As a broad generality gamers are predominantly male and I hate to say it, shamefully socially inept. For some reason escapism in the form of fantasy or science fiction gaming has become a favorite past-time of social misfits.



    I feel for them, I really do. The real world can be a harsh place and uncomfortable for someone who doesn't know how to navigate through it (especially in terms of the opposite sex) but  allowing yourself to childishly act different because you suddenly realize that "Morgoth the Wizard" is actually a 'hot sounding chick' when she logs onto vent is counterproductive and foolish.



    Frankly, I'm honored whenever a real female joins any of my guilds/corporations/organizations/player clans. They are few and far between and usually bring a much needed different perspective on the game. I don't pull punches or ask any less or more of them because of their sex, but I do count myself lucky to find at least a more equal ratio of male to female gamers in my groups and I think it's because we do away with all the gender crap that is so prevelant in the community.
  • sleepyguyftlsleepyguyftl Member Posts: 648
    Originally posted by Sinkael  My understanding is that MMORPG.com was a news sites, I assumed it would follow some traditional journalistic standards, such as fact checking the accuracy of posted articles.

    I used to belieive MMORPG was also a news site. Then came the news incident where a WoW player was banned for promoting a gay guild in a chat channel. The incident went so far as Blizzard actually revising their policies concerning guild recruitment and even created a new channel. Where did I read the details about the event? Was it on the site that is supposed to be about MMO's? No, it was on other gaming sites.



    So a major event happens in the world of MMORPGS. A company actually revises it's internal policies which almost never happens. And the site that is about MMORPG's ignores it. When confronted the only thing one of the major editorial staff has to say is "I dropped the ball on the matter. I was sent an email and I didn't think it was important enough, so it didn't get the attention it should have". It was at that point that I realised that MMORPG is not a news site.



    Since that time I have visited the site less and less. Everytime I stop in, I don't find news about MMO's. Instead usually find editorial garbage such as this one.



    To put it simply, MMORPG.com has gone from my source for mmo news to nothing site with lots of ads and fluff.
  • Shana77Shana77 Member UncommonPosts: 290

     

    Wow this article is most certainly the most ignorant article i've ever read on a gamesite. The writer of the article must be very young and has probably never had a close relationship with a real girl.

    Just a few facts I hope guys will take more seriously then the writer of this article.

    1. Girl gamers are pretty much gamers. We come in all kinds and sorts, we can be friendly and sweet or plain assholes just like men.

    2. We are not from another planet.

  • piquetpiquet Member UncommonPosts: 189

    People's gender is probably the last thing I care about when playing, I'm more focused on whether we play well together or screw up a lot. I play both male and female characters. My casters are always female, I think it's because, to me, male characters look silly in robes. All my melee characters (which is usually what I prefer to play) are male, because they generally look more intimidating.

     

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