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  • truerune777truerune777 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    So, both companies have a version of Granado Espada. IAH's version is called Granado Espada, and K2 network's version is called Sword of the New World: Granado Espada. thats 5 extra words! 5 of them!



    Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?



    So far, I have to go with K2 network.



    K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.



    First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.



    IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)



    And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.



    Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH.  I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
    Sure most of this is true but which company has the actual gameplay thrill?Not K2 because with its lag you can barely enjoy their games.IAH beats K2 by game quality even if their website is a trash can.And K2 didnt make this game,thats why it opened quicker,they simply took it from IAH and put it in american servers,its been done and now they are just modifying servers and thats where K2 breaks apart...and this isnt about the past of K2...its happening RITE NOW!Tried to play War Rock And MU yesterday boom couldnt log into MU and War Rock lagged like hell so i had to uninstall all of the games in my computer affiliated with K2.

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  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    Well IAH is ran from Singapore with servers in Singapore.  It is still a bit buggy, and it has broken english.  Alot of the players are racist towards Americans also.  The pluses of it is that it will be Free to Play with a item mall for real cash. 

    K2's version is going to be run for America and in America.  It will have a monthly fee past level 20, and an optional item mall.  It will have more character customization options via the item mall also.  It is only going to be around 9$ per month.  They are writing their own translation.  Pre order and closed beta starts in about a week, and then open beta a week or two after that.  The beta's should be short since the game ships in a little over 5 weeks.

    I say play the SG/IAH version to experience the game and learn the ropes but then go with K2's American version once it launches. 

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by truerune777

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    So, both companies have a version of Granado Espada. IAH's version is called Granado Espada, and K2 network's version is called Sword of the New World: Granado Espada. thats 5 extra words! 5 of them!



    Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?



    So far, I have to go with K2 network.



    K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.



    First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.



    IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)



    And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.



    Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH.  I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
    Sure most of this is true but which company has the actual gameplay thrill?Not K2 because with its lag you can barely enjoy their games.IAH beats K2 by game quality even if their website is a trash can.And K2 didnt make this game,thats why it opened quicker,they simply took it from IAH and put it in american servers,its been done and now they are just modifying servers and thats where K2 breaks apart...and this isnt about the past of K2...its happening RITE NOW!Tried to play War Rock And MU yesterday boom couldnt log into MU and War Rock lagged like hell so i had to uninstall all of the games in my computer affiliated with K2. You don't know if K2 networks version will lag because you didn't play it. Lets educate you a bit:



    IAH did NOT create Granado Espada. IAH is publishing Granado Espada

    K2 network did NOT take anything from IAH. K2 network does not even have a contract with IAH. they have a contract with IMC games.



    I don't have any lag on WARROCK or Mu, did you check your computer for spyware?
  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495
    Originally posted by truerune777

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    So, both companies have a version of Granado Espada. IAH's version is called Granado Espada, and K2 network's version is called Sword of the New World: Granado Espada. thats 5 extra words! 5 of them!



    Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?



    So far, I have to go with K2 network.



    K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.



    First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.



    IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)



    And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.



    Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH.  I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
    Sure most of this is true but which company has the actual gameplay thrill?Not K2 because with its lag you can barely enjoy their games.IAH beats K2 by game quality even if their website is a trash can.And K2 didnt make this game,thats why it opened quicker,they simply took it from IAH and put it in american servers,its been done and now they are just modifying servers and thats where K2 breaks apart...and this isnt about the past of K2...its happening RITE NOW!Tried to play War Rock And MU yesterday boom couldnt log into MU and War Rock lagged like hell so i had to uninstall all of the games in my computer affiliated with K2.

    You are just pulling stuff out of thin air.  K2 and IAH aren't affiliated.  IAH licensed the game and published a version for Singapore and made an english version as well.  K2 did the same thing only they are publishing in America instead of China.  IAH's version is not guarranteed and probably won't fully support their english side forever.  There was also talk of the sg version banning foreign ip's a while back but that would be stupid of them...  Anyway you are making stuff up, k2 version isn't even playable so how can you judge it and compare it?  It will be a version of the game made for Americans, it will always be supported for Americans, and right now K2 is doing a great job of it.  I guess we'll see within the next couple weeks how the two compare. 
  • truerune777truerune777 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by ProfRed

    Originally posted by truerune777

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    So, both companies have a version of Granado Espada. IAH's version is called Granado Espada, and K2 network's version is called Sword of the New World: Granado Espada. thats 5 extra words! 5 of them!



    Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?



    So far, I have to go with K2 network.



    K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.



    First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.



    IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)



    And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.



    Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH.  I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
    Sure most of this is true but which company has the actual gameplay thrill?Not K2 because with its lag you can barely enjoy their games.IAH beats K2 by game quality even if their website is a trash can.And K2 didnt make this game,thats why it opened quicker,they simply took it from IAH and put it in american servers,its been done and now they are just modifying servers and thats where K2 breaks apart...and this isnt about the past of K2...its happening RITE NOW!Tried to play War Rock And MU yesterday boom couldnt log into MU and War Rock lagged like hell so i had to uninstall all of the games in my computer affiliated with K2.

    You are just pulling stuff out of thin air.  K2 and IAH aren't affiliated.  IAH licensed the game and published a version for Singapore and made an english version as well.  K2 did the same thing only they are publishing in America instead of China.  IAH's version is not guarranteed and probably won't fully support their english side forever.  There was also talk of the sg version banning foreign ip's a while back but that would be stupid of them...  Anyway you are making stuff up, k2 version isn't even playable so how can you judge it and compare it?  It will be a version of the game made for Americans, it will always be supported for Americans, and right now K2 is doing a great job of it.  I guess we'll see within the next couple weeks how the two compare. 



    I didnt say they were affiliated i said i deleted everything in my computer that had something to do with K2

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  • TikkallTikkall Member Posts: 14
    I played the MU before K2 was even in the picture and noticed when it was just Webzen there were hackers, no updates, no events, and people were raving over seeing a message from a MM in 6 months. When K2 came the community started showing hope. Now MU has been updated with new maps, hardly any hackers, and events daily.  (I consider Chaos Castle and Blood Castle events considering before there were none.) Frankly just looking at the change in MU, there isn't that much lag anymore and there are more people attracted to the game than before, I believe that K2 has it's promises that it delivers. Now I do not reccommend this game to anyone here but it certainly was an improvement! One that I applaud them for! I expect that they can handle games just fine when they see money to be made in them. I'm fine with paying a small monthly fee for a good online game. (Even though I do know that K2 pricing is way over the top!) I do believe K2's support in the game will definately matter, as with all other companies, in how much money they will make from it. If they don't see any profit for themselves then they won't have many people working on it. I believe however that this game has a lot of potential profit and expesically in the beginning K2 will deliver most of their promises on game play. I believe this because it would be a better business technique.  I don't have experience  with  IAH but I believe they are also a good gaming company too. The main thing for me is: IAH is in Singapore. K2 is in America. It seems alot more easier to play with a server closer to my location and one that is over a thousand miles away!



    I think the main reason for K2's failure in other games is that is just wasn't a promising profit and why waste money on games that won't make profit? One has to think of it as an owner of a business and not as a gamer.
  • boommer99boommer99 Member UncommonPosts: 309
    Originally posted by truerune777

    Originally posted by ProfRed

    Originally posted by truerune777

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    So, both companies have a version of Granado Espada. IAH's version is called Granado Espada, and K2 network's version is called Sword of the New World: Granado Espada. thats 5 extra words! 5 of them!



    Both of them are releasing soon. Which company do you think is better?



    So far, I have to go with K2 network.



    K2 network is simply doing a better job then IAH.



    First, the PR. K2 network is MUCH more involved with the community then IAH. just look at the post count of both community managers on both forums (You can take Hrin's post count of the old forum and combine it with the new forum). Melisande has a larger post count. You also have to take into consideration that K2 networks forums have only been open for a week or so, while IAH's forums have been open for much longer. The senior GM of SotNW:GE is also an active poster on the forum. None of the IAH staff members are really active forum posters.



    IAH is also sloooooowww. Very, very, slow. It received the license for Granado Espada MANY months ago, and the website only opened a month or two ago, the forum didn't go live until closed beta started, and only for beta testers. the real forum only opened a few days ago. K2 network opened its website and forum much faster then IAH did (taken into consideration that K2 network received the license much later then IAH)



    And speaking of beta, the time period between Closed beta and pre-open beta on the IAH version is 2 months! 2 months! thats rediculous.



    Ofcourse we have to wait with our final judgement when both companies release the games. but so far, I'm more impressed by K2 network then IAH.  I have to take back the bad things I said about K2 network. for me, it proves that the past of a company doesn't tell you everything.
    Sure most of this is true but which company has the actual gameplay thrill?Not K2 because with its lag you can barely enjoy their games.IAH beats K2 by game quality even if their website is a trash can.And K2 didnt make this game,thats why it opened quicker,they simply took it from IAH and put it in american servers,its been done and now they are just modifying servers and thats where K2 breaks apart...and this isnt about the past of K2...its happening RITE NOW!Tried to play War Rock And MU yesterday boom couldnt log into MU and War Rock lagged like hell so i had to uninstall all of the games in my computer affiliated with K2.

    You are just pulling stuff out of thin air.  K2 and IAH aren't affiliated.  IAH licensed the game and published a version for Singapore and made an english version as well.  K2 did the same thing only they are publishing in America instead of China.  IAH's version is not guarranteed and probably won't fully support their english side forever.  There was also talk of the sg version banning foreign ip's a while back but that would be stupid of them...  Anyway you are making stuff up, k2 version isn't even playable so how can you judge it and compare it?  It will be a version of the game made for Americans, it will always be supported for Americans, and right now K2 is doing a great job of it.  I guess we'll see within the next couple weeks how the two compare. 



    I didnt say they were affiliated i said i deleted everything in my computer that had something to do with K2

    You're pretty dumb... they said that IAH and K2 are not affilitated because you are under the incorrect impression that K2 is using IAH's translations.  K2 has said numerous times that they have a team translating the original english.  Just the fact that the name of the continent and game are directly from K2's different translation of the text: http://www.swordofthenewworld.com/the_story.php

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  • WraithmireWraithmire Member Posts: 328
    well k2 is going to be p2p AND  a cash shop...no thanks



    IAH isn't sure yet, but most likely their version of Granado Espada is gonna be free to play with a cash shop...



    now if k2 was just p2p I would pay for it, but nope...they are more greedy than EA  and put in a cash shop also.



    That isn't to say IAH will do the same since it isn't known the payment, but from what I've read its most likely free to play. And you can play from anywhere in the world, so if its free to play its the obvious choice for me...and if its p2p thats fine too unless they also include a cash shop with that p2p.



    And I'm in the U.S, I haven't got any lag on the IAH version.



    Anyways, I really like this game:) But K2 is just too greedy for me to play on their servers.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Indeed, K2 network is Really greedy. The monthly fee is 6$ less then other MMORPG's. the greed is just overwhelming.
  • WraithmireWraithmire Member Posts: 328
    Well the game is good...I'm not saying its bad at all, I really like it. And I can see paying for it...but I refuse to both pay monthly and pay for more items. I play games with cash shops all the time that are free  and I sometimes pay I pay for items. Just, paying a monthly fee and paying items just doesn't do it for me...but thats just my opinion.



    Anyways, most of my friends I believe will be going to IAH anyways, so that makes it worth it to play there. That is another reason I prefer to go to IAH.

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  • turnipzturnipz Member Posts: 531
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Indeed, K2 network is Really greedy. The monthly fee is 6$ less then other MMORPG's. the greed is just overwhelming.
    O Wow 6 whole dollars less?  And a cheaper made game than most??



    And an item mall???



    I really hope your not being sarcastic as 15$ a month is ludicruous already considering what you get in return.
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by turnipz

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Indeed, K2 network is Really greedy. The monthly fee is 6$ less then other MMORPG's. the greed is just overwhelming.
    O Wow 6 whole dollars less?  And a cheaper made game than most??



    And an item mall???



    I really hope your not being sarcastic as 15$ a month is ludicruous already considering what you get in return.  Acheaper made game? Good sir, please do your research, the game cost 56 million USD to make. They not only made the game, they made their own engine from the ground up as well. Music was made by the world's famous DJ: Tiesto.



    This is not a cheaper made game than most. in fact, it is probably one of the most expensive MMO's ever made.



    yes, 6 whole dollars less, sorry, how is being cheaper greedy? also keep in mind that we DO NOT KNOW what items the item shop will holds.
  • truerune777truerune777 Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by turnipz

    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Indeed, K2 network is Really greedy. The monthly fee is 6$ less then other MMORPG's. the greed is just overwhelming.
    O Wow 6 whole dollars less?  And a cheaper made game than most??



    And an item mall???



    I really hope your not being sarcastic as 15$ a month is ludicruous already considering what you get in return.  Acheaper made game? Good sir, please do your research, the game cost 56 million USD to make. They not only made the game, they made their own engine from the ground up as well. Music was made by the world's famous DJ: Tiesto.



    This is not a cheaper made game than most. in fact, it is probably one of the most expensive MMO's ever made.



    yes, 6 whole dollars less, sorry, how is being cheaper greedy? also keep in mind that we DO NOT KNOW what items the item shop will holds. Tiesto rocks,he turned pirates of the caribbean's "he's a pirate" into a sweet remix

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  • MadodeMadode Member Posts: 58

    IAH has a Open playable version.  They win in my mind.  If I can play when it goes Gold, I'll stick with them.  I don't care how cozy the Community Managers get in the forums.  I only worry about being able to play a fun game.  And since I can't play K2N's version...it isn't fun.

     

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  • kof2003kof2003 Member Posts: 128

    I stick with IAHgames GE cause of the updates and the services that provide.

    either way is F2P with item mall and user can select to buy item in item mall as well.

    if the game is p2p with item mall.........then i would not lay a hand on that particular game cause of the serious cost of mmo gaming.

    so stick with iahgames

  • boommer99boommer99 Member UncommonPosts: 309
    Originally posted by kof2003


    I stick with IAHgames GE cause of the updates and the services that provide.
    either way is F2P with item mall and user can select to buy item in item mall as well.
    if the game is p2p with item mall.........then i would not lay a hand on that particular game cause of the serious cost of mmo gaming.
    so stick with iahgames

    Well, it looks like IAH is going to be B2P, P2P and item mall... so it looks like your boned.



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  • turnipzturnipz Member Posts: 531
    Free private servers if it happens to be P2P!
  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by turnipz

    Free private servers if it happens to be P2P!
    Sorry, but what private servers? There are no private servers for GE.
  • TikkallTikkall Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Originally posted by turnipz

    Free private servers if it happens to be P2P!
    Sorry, but what private servers? There are no private servers for GE.

    That's getting into a different topic. Every game will most likely have private servers. Most of them (Maybe all.) are illegal. I think in terms of IAH vs. K2 both will try to fight private servers to the best of their abilities.  Private servers take players away from their game and also take money away from their company. It also allows unlicensed people to have control of a game they bought to advertise and play. I don't think their will be any difference in the way they operate to bring down any private servers for GE that will/may pop up. I think  they may even work together to get rid of private servers. Anything is possible. 
  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495
    No one needs the items from the Cash shops.  Almost all npc's in the cash shop are available for recruitment outside of it.  The cash shop ones simply have some added attributes or an added stance or two.  They are definitely not necessary.  The IAH version appears to be going Pay to Play with cash shop, and will need to be bought initially.  Everyone is waiting for their official announcement but at a gaming event this last weekend one of the rewards was basically a subscription card meaning it will be pay to play.



    K2's version is only 8.95$ a month, and a fully optional cash shop.  It will be run from America with American servers, American event times, support by people in our timezones, more character customization, a game client taken from the source and translated by Americans, and most of all an honest support staff.



    IAH's version will most likely be as much or more to pay.  It will be run from Asia with Asian servers, Asian event times (first set of colony wars are at 7am est throughout the month of June), is already showing lousy community support (all of these details are being found out by community members where the actual support staff seems to be lying or skirting the truth), have an Asian team translating the game which still has broken English, have less character customization, and have tons of players who don't speak english.



    Another note the IAH version is 3.5gb after multiple updates while the K2 version is 4.1gb just going into closed beta due to added content for the Western player base (clothing items, customization, etc.)



    K2 all the way.  IAH supporters are either stubborn, jumping on a racist band wagon, don't like K2 because the other Korean based games the published have pretty much died(these games were dead from the start), or don't want to part with their open beta toons.  Anyone that thinks it through will use the IAH version as a beta and get ready for K2's in my opinion.  Most of the anti-K2 hating was started by heavy anti-American racists and i'd love to go back and re-find all of the posts i've found to prove it but i'm lazy, at work, and i'd rather anyone interested look into it themselves.



    I will give you this one though to sum it up over at IAH :

    http://forum.iahgames.com/ge/showthread.php?t=5693
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