Did anyone else notice this?

butters88 · June 2007

Anyone else notice that WoW isn't on the top rated MMORP'S anymore? Or has it not been there for a while now?

Stormsurge · June 2007

Well, games get old in time. WoW has been out for like 4 or 5 years. When games are first released, people pay more attention to them. Hope this answers you

Yuberek · June 2007

Originally posted by Stormsurge

Well, games get old in time. WoW has been out for like 4 or 5 years. When games are first released, people pay more attention to them. Hope this answers you

11/23/04

The date WoW was released.

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06/10/07

Today's date .

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Stormreaver · June 2007

It doesn't matter that WoW was released a while ago. Games like EVE and DAoC are still up there. Collectively, this community just doesn't think WoW is that great of a game.

Enforcer71 · June 2007

I dont even bother looking at whats at the top and what isnt, if you go by someone elses opinion you may miss out on something. Just because WoW isnt on top doesnt mean it isnt a good game or vice versa.

I have tried a lot of these games and some at the top I think totally suck while lower ones I would play, it all comes down to personal opinions and around here a majority of people do not like WoW but that doesnt mean everyone doesnt like it after all its still the biggest community out there.

Trubaduren · June 2007

Maby beacuse it isnt such a great game and people get tierde of doing the same thing over and over again.

cooms · June 2007

WoW isn't that great its boring now. SCII shows that Blizzard knows its dieing.

Turinbar · June 2007

ppl is simply so addicted to WoW, that they don`t even have time to chek this kind of sites... they have to go and chek the AH instead.

Produde · June 2007

There are already several posts regarding the "top list" on this site.

It is by non means representive of the entire game community.

It is interesting though how WoW bashing has decreased in the past several weeks.

Lotr has taken a beating in the same time frame along with many posts asking/requsting ANY 'Good' MMO.

Fusion · June 2007

It's not on the toplist because the rating system blows donkeyballs, everyone who doesn't play it rates it below average even tho they know themselves its alot better than what they rate it, its just the haters that lower its rating.

ps. i have played it, but i don't anymore and i can honestly say that it's a great game, no other MMO has yet to come as close to being a complete game at launch and years after that as WoW.

I have never checked the games on the toplist because the system fails big time... i mean EvE online and whatnot crappy games on the list....

Royspi · June 2007

rating systems are never 100% accurate.. heck i'm gonna get ballsy and say they are barely 50% accurate. You're better off trying to find a nuetral review for the game you're intrested in. Even better is to try it for yourself.

Rydeson · June 2007

I do not look at the list as the 10 commandments.. The list gets me a hint to what others like in general, but it's far from being a science.. Take this for example.. I used to be a SOE customer from years back.. I played EQ, EQ2, Planetside, and SWG, and even beta tested Vanguard.. I tried EVE for a trail period, I've played CoH, CoV as well for a number of months.. I'm currently a WoW player.. I've tried DAoC and I have a friend that played AC..

Of ALL the games listed the ones I enjoyed the most for MY PLAYING STYLE is WoW, then the CoH games then EQ.. SWG was good, yet buggy in the beginning.. as for the rest you couldn't get me to play them if they were FREE.. Therefor if I was to rate them, things would look different..

As for the ratings I'm sure there are some that hate WoW so bad because they blame WoW's success for their game going into the crapper, they would bury the ratings to take out their frustrations.. oh well..

battleaxe22 · June 2007

Most of the people who visit this site played wow so much ...that they started to hate it .

WoW has 8 milion players , nothing else sead ^_^

Your game prolly has under 500k So most of the people say : YEAH SO WHAT ...if a lot of people play it ,it doesn't mean it's a good game > Well think about this : things wich a lot of people usualy use are generaly of high quality

Some compare wow with Mcdonalds: No problem, Mcdonalds is the best fast food out there(it has the most users )

Wow is the best mmo i've played ...and i've played them all

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most important thing is : wow population is consistant .Just look at other games ....their subs have huge ups and downs while wow only goes up from time to time. Another thing is people of this site think they are smarter because they play a game wich needs greater dedication.(NOT skill,just lot's of time)

I just can't believe what peoeple on this site are saying : sc2 is in dev ..because wow is loosing subs. Of corse it is ...every mmo is. Thing is that wow is also getting a influx of new players.Im always seeing new players asking for help,leveling etc (no ,they are not alts )

Every game has it's problems ....just like people

sorry for the grammar

Kyleran · June 2007

Originally posted by Martie
<Mod edit>

This site has no policy against accepting money from gold sellers, never has, and they make no apologies for it. For a period of time no gold sellers were interested in paying their rates, but that has recently changed.

The bills have to be paid somehow, and all those subscription fees you send them aren't covering it. (oh wait, that's right, you don't have to pay for this site, do you?)

But you are correct, the ratings are probably a bit skewed against WOW, people probably are more likely to go out of their way to provide a rating on it than on other games...hence it gets lowered (by a very small amount vs the other games btw..... about 1 or 2 10ths of a point last time I looked)

You seem to hate this site Martie....maybe you should consider staying away?

deplorable · June 2007

Originally posted by battleaxe22

Most of the people who visit this site played wow so much ...that they started to hate it .

WoW has 8 milion players , nothing else sead ^_^

half that number are chinese players who haven't even got BC yet (not released), funnily enough over 300,000 (out of NA's 2 million) in North America have still to upgrade to BC. More so in Europe where BC compared to WoW has largely been ignored.

although BC did top the charts at 2.4 million in the first month (worldwide) breaking the month record, it's peaked at 3.2 million by the start of May, didn't quite keep up, did it

every expansion blizzard realises is another nail in the coffin. As long as Tigole is in charge of development all you'll see is another raid that only 10% of guilds will see, and more reputation grinds than you can shake a stick at.

WoW hasn't delivered anything original for years (hell they had player housing in Beta, couldn't have taken them 2 years to get it a little bit proper now could it)

WoW still sells, but then blizzard still bans bots and with WoW at an all time low (£9.99) with the amount of profit a gold seller can get... well there's bound to be a co-relation to sales/bannings. right

WoW has even started merging battlegroups in the US, however in EU they've encountered problems, due to where the various servers are and the lack of connections.

WoW has reached the top, and it won't go any higher... all downhill from here, which is why blizzard is hard at work making their new "next gen" MMO - no one notice the people they've been hiring recently... tch

NO new servers since January, whereas before it was at least every 2 months. And with player transfers almost available on EVERY server blizzard has, somethings bound to have gone wrong with the population numbers

Amathe · June 2007

Originally posted by Stormreaver

It doesn't matter that WoW was released a while ago. Games like EVE and DAoC are still up there. Collectively, this community just doesn't think WoW is that great of a game.

Nonsense. The game has an 8 rating here, and that's with 7850 people voting. It also has an 8.5 rating in the "fun" category. More importantly, over 9 million people have voted for it with their wallets.

zollen · June 2007

It is very natural for players who love WoW get offensed by comments made by players who do not like WoW.

I hope I have anwsered most of the questions in this WoW forum.

Matutino · June 2007

Wow here, wow there...

everything must be compared to wow, ridiculous !!!

there are a lot of better developed games...

adfoam · June 2007

I dont think that people hate WoW because it caused the population drop in game that they play. Only people responsible for population drops are the developers of that game itself. People that hate WoW, generally it is not their cup of tea.

I just PvP and PvP in WoW is lacking really bad. I am not into "raid or die." I will continue to be bored with it till something better comes along. And people go for, "another WoW clone" I guess when they watch TV, they say outloud, "The Simpsons did it"

Because WoW is not on top of the ratings, doesnt mean its because of trolls and you clearly can not say, "oh they have this many subscribers" to say its just that good. Everyone has an opinion about something, just because others disagree with you, does not make your opinion better than theirs or vice versa.

thetank · June 2007

Originally posted by deplorable

Originally posted by battleaxe22

Most of the people who visit this site played wow so much ...that they started to hate it .

WoW has 8 milion players , nothing else sead ^_^
half that number are chinese players who haven't even got BC yet (not released), funnily enough over 300,000 (out of NA's 2 million) in North America have still to upgrade to BC. More so in Europe where BC compared to WoW has largely been ignored.
although BC did top the charts at 2.4 million in the first month (worldwide) breaking the month record, it's peaked at 3.2 million by the start of May, didn't quite keep up, did it
every expansion blizzard realises is another nail in the coffin. As long as Tigole is in charge of development all you'll see is another raid that only 10% of guilds will see, and more reputation grinds than you can shake a stick at.
WoW hasn't delivered anything original for years (hell they had player housing in Beta, couldn't have taken them 2 years to get it a little bit proper now could it)

WoW still sells, but then blizzard still bans bots and with WoW at an all time low (£9.99) with the amount of profit a gold seller can get... well there's bound to be a co-relation to sales/bannings. right

WoW has even started merging battlegroups in the US, however in EU they've encountered problems, due to where the various servers are and the lack of connections.
WoW has reached the top, and it won't go any higher... all downhill from here, which is why blizzard is hard at work making their new "next gen" MMO - no one notice the people they've been hiring recently... tch

NO new servers since January, whereas before it was at least every 2 months. And with player transfers almost available on EVERY server blizzard has, somethings bound to have gone wrong with the population numbers

*ahem*

.... next gen mmo?? what may i ask?

No Blizzard does not reccons that World of Warcraft is dieing because.. it is not.

The fact that new servers arent coming up doesnt means the population is decreasing. IMO it probably means that they still have enough room on the actual ones.

So you are quite wrong IF you think the game is going "downhill" or something.

(altough i recognise you are entitled to your own opinion)

Cheers

Make Love not Flame

ASmith84 · June 2007

have you ever notice that people have posted this crap about wow not bein on top a million times before? those who actually like wow are too busy havin no life and playin it to care about what a site thinks about it. lol im just kidding but seriously its all up to the people who actually put the effort to vote. so the people who actually voted are the ones who didnt think wow shouldnt be on top. plus wow is gonna go down anyway when age of conan comes up.

Ciredric · June 2007

Wow's problem, they have not kept the game up to date. Content additions have been abysmal and mostly for the raiding crowd. Since less than 10% of the playerbase raids, it has left the rest of the playerbase doing the non raid instances and that gets old.

The expansion was supposed to be boon to the casual player, yet you can see by the ridiculous reputation tree that it was mainly designed to be a time sink. Time sinks and causal players do not mix. Completely missed their target group with BC.

What else do most of us like to do, make alts, well guess what, BC introduced no new areas for the 20-58 crowd. Zip Again, completely missing the target audience.

What is on the horizon, another two year wait for an unannounced expansion? Blizzard is asleep at the wheel and the playerbase knows it. Hence many players feel completely bored with the game and look for anything else.

If Conan or War are anything of what they are anticipated for, Wow will lose significant subscriptions.

Wow is already on it's downhill slide and if you can't recognize that you are decieving yourself.

lomiller · June 2007

WoW was the top ranked game for the first year or so after it was released. AT that point EvE clawed it’s way up and the two fought for the top spot for about 6 months, then WoW dropped out of the top ten over the span of a month or so.

IMO the reason for the decline is simple. This site has a lot of veteran MMO players that are not into raiding or grinding battlegrounds. Early WoW suited them nicely, but after they hit level 60, the game did a 180 and turned into a hardcore raiding/grinding game. Being veterans the people on this site immediately recognized this turnaround and adjusted their scores accordingly.

Timithos · June 2007

WoW has grabbed more market share then any other MOG in history. You can only grab so much before a decline. In order to sustain, you would need new gamers. Although new gamers are coming, you can't sustain over 8 million subs in a MOG... yet. More MOG's are on the horizon. Everyone's vying for gamers - MOG's, PC games, platforms, etc. Wii is getting a lot of new seniors.

Since I've played over a dozen MOG's extensively, the shear volume of content, and the timely improvements are incredible compared to other MOGs. I would say it should be, due to their subscriber base. I don't even have BC yet, and I can't tell you how much content & features I still haven't experience yet in pre-BC. Granted, I have become a more casual player.

I think WoW doesn't hit the top rating here anymore because of that cliche, hate-the-big-guy, hate M$, hate Walmart... hate WoW syndrome. I hate cliche's. They're sad.

For the negative, ranting gamer... it's never enough... NEVER.

davvin · June 2007

Originally posted by thetank

Originally posted by deplorable

Originally posted by battleaxe22

Most of the people who visit this site played wow so much ...that they started to hate it .

WoW has 8 milion players , nothing else sead ^_^
half that number are chinese players who haven't even got BC yet (not released), funnily enough over 300,000 (out of NA's 2 million) in North America have still to upgrade to BC. More so in Europe where BC compared to WoW has largely been ignored.
although BC did top the charts at 2.4 million in the first month (worldwide) breaking the month record, it's peaked at 3.2 million by the start of May, didn't quite keep up, did it
every expansion blizzard realises is another nail in the coffin. As long as Tigole is in charge of development all you'll see is another raid that only 10% of guilds will see, and more reputation grinds than you can shake a stick at.
WoW hasn't delivered anything original for years (hell they had player housing in Beta, couldn't have taken them 2 years to get it a little bit proper now could it)

WoW still sells, but then blizzard still bans bots and with WoW at an all time low (£9.99) with the amount of profit a gold seller can get... well there's bound to be a co-relation to sales/bannings. right

WoW has even started merging battlegroups in the US, however in EU they've encountered problems, due to where the various servers are and the lack of connections.
WoW has reached the top, and it won't go any higher... all downhill from here, which is why blizzard is hard at work making their new "next gen" MMO - no one notice the people they've been hiring recently... tch

NO new servers since January, whereas before it was at least every 2 months. And with player transfers almost available on EVERY server blizzard has, somethings bound to have gone wrong with the population numbers

*ahem*

.... next gen mmo?? what may i ask?

No Blizzard does not reccons that World of Warcraft is dieing because.. it is not.

The fact that new servers arent coming up doesnt means the population is decreasing. IMO it probably means that they still have enough room on the actual ones.

So you are quite wrong IF you think the game is going "downhill" or something.

(altough i recognise you are entitled to your own opinion)

Cheers

Make Love not Flame Blizzard hiring for next gen MMO found here:

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zack702 · June 2007

Wows population is 8 million players?

With mabey only 1000 of them online at any one time.

And half of them are gold farming bots.

And the other half are lvl 70s who purchased there characters from a website.

Then take in the fact that there are over 100 server shards and you will be hard pressed to find a acctual player and not someone who is a wow counselor or a wow salesman.

If you play WOW go online sometime and type /who 10 or /who 20 this will print out a list of all the level 10s or 20s on your side alliance/horde.

I just did this on a high population server and there are 7 level 10s and 5 level 20s now it is 7 am but I have done this at peak hours and it's not that much diffrent.

Most players now adays are level 70s and most of them you can find standing around either the AH or the warmasters.

There may be 8 million players but I've never seen numbers anywhere near that on any server.

Thats just like any high pop guild that has over 300 members and only 20 or so max online at any one time.

Wow is a good game but as far as a pay to play game its a ripoff due to server sharding.

And end game you will spend your hours as a pawn in a raid group or a battleground where your presence means little.

Most battlegrounds are a place for the so called elite who mostly bought all there items and characters from a website created by cheaters who use bots to farm instances and powerlevel characters.

There are legit players but they are scattered abroad in the server shards.

In short you might have a party in wow but there wont be 8 million players and for the most part its hypocrisy.

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